Open 693 - Capture the (White) Flag - Mod KIA

[MarioManiac4]

second

[MarioManiac4]

spot the difference

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One's green

above is town

[MarioManiac4]

flashwagoning Delta is a fun activity for all of the family.

I say we stop discussing theory and start flashwagoning Delta

VOTE: DeltaW
let's give this one s e c o n d l i f e

Wait we're voting someone with 9 posts....wut

Yes that's precisely what we're doing

Kinda wanta hammer him so we don't have to put up with the waiting game but that's a bad move

Strongly disagree

Balki I'm sorry to break this to you but you're not deciding our lynch.

Please sheep me on this vote, and forever more.

I'll sheep you if you vote Delta!

the lynch is amazing btw

hello scumbuddy of deltaw i'm fine how are you?

DeltaW,

Mafia Godfather

, has been lynched.

when you become leader of the labour party but still have to unite the working class and overthrow the bourgeoisie

p.s don't read the rest of that game

[MarioManiac4]

ayyyy

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VOTE: Townso
you know what you did

[MarioManiac4]

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

(Also why do you keep calling me townso?)

[MarioManiac4]

by the way, you're all scum, unless there is substantial evidence that you aren't, in which case you are a SK

[MarioManiac4]

by the way, you're all scum, unless there is substantial evidence that you aren't, in which case you are a SK

how u are sure there is sk in this game? : D unless i miss something here...

Because I'm the SK.

[MarioManiac4]

by the way, you're all scum, unless there is substantial evidence that you aren't, in which case you are a SK

how u are sure there is sk in this game? : D unless i miss something here...

Because I'm the SK.

Yeah : D ? Too easy.
Or you really are the sk, and this is truth in plain sight so the mafia will let you live longer as their. frenemy hmm
Or mafia pretending to be sk coz no one will take u seriously?

Which one? <3

why not both

[MarioManiac4]

do we shitpost or random vote

why not both

[MarioManiac4]

Yeah I can understand that, I think everyone would be jealous of my role here. Being scum goons must be so boring.

[MarioManiac4]

Yeah, but nobody here's a VT, so that's a pretty irrelevant point.

[MarioManiac4]

3x Mafia Goon - Faction PT is given, they win when they make up 50% or more of the town.
1x Mafia Serial Killer- Faction PT is given, is also secretly SK, they win when they alone make up 50% or more of the town.
3x Werewolf Goon- Faction PT is given, they win when they make up 50% or more of the town.
3x Alien Goon- Faction PT is given, they win when they make up 50% or more of the town.
1x Cult Leader- Faction PT is given, may recruit players to le Cult, they win when they make up 50% or more of the town.

like ffs ppl learn to read.

[MarioManiac4]

I mean, I would know; I'm a Town N0 Global Neapolitan. Why do you

think

pregame took so long?

[MarioManiac4]

If you were the real N0 Global Neapolitan, you would know that you needed a chance to select if you were going to use your global Neapolitan or not.

[MarioManiac4]

it's what happens when people who don't play mafia decide cop is a boring role and make all prs millers

[MarioManiac4]

If you were the real N0 Global Neapolitan, you would know that you needed a chance to select if you were going to use your global Neapolitan or not.

Only a fool would choose to not use it.

Some people are fools. As indicated by the fact that people vote for me.

it's what happens when people who don't play mafia decide cop is a boring role and make all prs millers

To be fair, Gunsmith is a lot worse.

Gunsmith is great when it's used creatively IMO. The issue is, it usually isn't.

it's what happens when people who don't play mafia decide cop is a boring role and make all prs millers

so basically a VTcop

yeah

[MarioManiac4]

Technically, that's a Vanilla Cop which does jackshit apart from calling out inconsequential scum PRs who claim VT. A Neapolitan is useful because a VT result is a hard Innocent, although a guilty can easily just claim a power role.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: QuantumRadius
I'm counterclaiming you. Lynch time!

[MarioManiac4]

phew I found a clever way to hide my OMGUS

[MarioManiac4]

hahahaahaha my reports came up as only 1 VT and Kawso is obviously that VT so you must be scum

[MarioManiac4]

hahahaahaha my reports came up as only 1 VT and Kawso is obviously that VT so you must be scum

oh yeah I'm also an uninformed miller

who cares I need the mislynch give me the mislynch

[MarioManiac4]

well that escalated quickly

[MarioManiac4]

Can confirm I'm vanilla scum

damnit kawso i read you incorrectly again

[MarioManiac4]

hey that's my meta too let's be friends

[MarioManiac4]

brb dying irl

[MarioManiac4]

brb dying irl

[MarioManiac4]

mario is a spy

aren't we all?

[MarioManiac4]

mario is a spy

aren't we all?

No, we're N0 Global Neapolitans don't you remember?

why not both?

[MarioManiac4]

Prepare your loadout!

Day 1

signs point to yes

[MarioManiac4]

It doesn't have to be RVS.

Why flairs?

WE HAVE NO MATERIAL.
I NEED SOMETHING TO WORK WITH TO PROPERLY SCUMREAD.
god

am happy with my vote

[MarioManiac4]

how the hell does that confirm you as town lmao

[MarioManiac4]

how the hell does that confirm you as town lmao

Scum would not have access to the Town Role PM because there are no sample PMs. Thus scum would not know the team colour of Town.

what stops scum from asking "what colour is the town team?"

[MarioManiac4]

I fail to see the connection.

[MarioManiac4]

i feel sad and betrayed. my heart is breaking into pieces.

[MarioManiac4]

^Not a bad vote at all.

[MarioManiac4]

Alright BTD is talking bullshit.

It is really easy to get the colors for both factions just by asking the mod for the colors. In fact, i have asked what was up with the faction colors and thats how i knew red was scum and what was up with the blue colors. I have no doubt the mod wouldve said towns' color to me even if i was scum.

So you knowing blue is town proves nothing. Unless you're trying to prove you asked the mod for towns' faction color. Scum.

VOTE: BTD6_maker

Do you have statistics to back it up?

VOTE: BTD6_maker

[MarioManiac4]

Alright BTD is talking bullshit.

It is really easy to get the colors for both factions just by asking the mod for the colors. In fact, i have asked what was up with the faction colors and thats how i knew red was scum and what was up with the blue colors. I have no doubt the mod wouldve said towns' color to me even if i was scum.

So you knowing blue is town proves nothing. Unless you're trying to prove you asked the mod for towns' faction color. Scum.

VOTE: BTD6_maker

Do you have statistics to back it up?

VOTE: BTD6_maker

Do you have statistics to back it up?

VOTE: BTD6_maker
woot im so smart

[MarioManiac4]

Alright BTD is talking bullshit.

It is really easy to get the colors for both factions just by asking the mod for the colors. In fact, i have asked what was up with the faction colors and thats how i knew red was scum and what was up with the blue colors. I have no doubt the mod wouldve said towns' color to me even if i was scum.

So you knowing blue is town proves nothing. Unless you're trying to prove you asked the mod for towns' faction color. Scum.

VOTE: BTD6_maker

I feel fine adding you to my scum pile for now. Though, I can see where you could be looking out for town.

Not bottom tier scum, but like, I'll get a lot of info on you from a flip.

what was the point of this post

[MarioManiac4]

do you have statistics to back it up

[MarioManiac4]

do you have statistics to back that up

[MarioManiac4]

@Chickadee

Alright BTD is talking bullshit.

It is really easy to get the colors for both factions just by asking the mod for the colors. In fact, i have asked what was up with the faction colors and thats how i knew red was scum and what was up with the blue colors. I have no doubt the mod wouldve said towns' color to me even if i was scum.

So you knowing blue is town proves nothing. Unless you're trying to prove you asked the mod for towns' faction color. Scum.

VOTE: BTD6_maker

I feel fine adding you to my scum pile for now. Though, I can see where you could be looking out for town.

Not bottom tier scum, but like, I'll get a lot of info on you from a flip.

what was the point of this post

[MarioManiac4]

@Chickadee

Alright BTD is talking bullshit.

It is really easy to get the colors for both factions just by asking the mod for the colors. In fact, i have asked what was up with the faction colors and thats how i knew red was scum and what was up with the blue colors. I have no doubt the mod wouldve said towns' color to me even if i was scum.

So you knowing blue is town proves nothing. Unless you're trying to prove you asked the mod for towns' faction color. Scum.

VOTE: BTD6_maker

I feel fine adding you to my scum pile for now. Though, I can see where you could be looking out for town.

Not bottom tier scum, but like, I'll get a lot of info on you from a flip.

what was the point of this post

Yep, I saw this the first time.

VOTE: Chickadee

[MarioManiac4]

OK so

that

pretty much conftowns BTD6.

[MarioManiac4]

Delta's reaction was that was defensive. If BTD6 was scum, it wouldn't be- there wouldn't have been any mod error.

[MarioManiac4]

Delta's reaction was defensive. If BTD6 was scum, it wouldn't be- there wouldn't have been any mod error.

fixed bad engrish

[MarioManiac4]

Delta's reaction was defensive. If BTD6 was scum, it wouldn't be- there wouldn't have been any mod error.

Actually it wasn't sarcastic

[MarioManiac4]

'Cos he was worried about it.

[MarioManiac4]

[MarioManiac4]

Wrong. That is a ginuea pig.

A guinea pig riding the glorious Chickadee wagon

[MarioManiac4]

Actually it's a Radio Flyer wagon.

why not both?

[MarioManiac4]

Actually it's a Radio Flyer wagon.

why not both?

Because I'm town.

omfg ur conftown now
UNVOTE:

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: chickadee

[MarioManiac4]

you're welcome

[MarioManiac4]

i think it's pretty safe to say things were already started when you made that statement, though. i could get your vote on me as a reaction tests of sorts. i can't get your post on dong as anything of the sort. things were already started. you said you were adding him to your scum pile for now. that isn't poking, that's just giving a "read" and it functionally fails as a reaction test. except it isn't even a read. it's basically just telling him "you are an acceptable information lynch please and thank you." basically, hollow posting.

[MarioManiac4]

i think it's pretty safe to say things were already started when you made that statement, though. i could get your vote on me as a reaction tests of sorts. i can't get your post on dong as anything of the sort. things were already started. you said you were adding him to your scum pile for now. that isn't poking, that's just giving a "read" and it functionally fails as a reaction test. except it isn't even a read. it's basically just telling him "you are an acceptable information lynch please and thank you." basically, hollow posting.

Where did I say I wanted to lynch him, or that he was an acceptable information lynch?

Alright BTD is talking bullshit.

It is really easy to get the colors for both factions just by asking the mod for the colors. In fact, i have asked what was up with the faction colors and thats how i knew red was scum and what was up with the blue colors. I have no doubt the mod wouldve said towns' color to me even if i was scum.

So you knowing blue is town proves nothing. Unless you're trying to prove you asked the mod for towns' faction color. Scum.

VOTE: BTD6_maker

I feel fine adding you to my scum pile for now. Though, I can see where you could be looking out for town.

Not bottom tier scum, but like, I'll get a lot of info on you from a flip.

I never voted him. I even said he wasn't bottom tier scum. Meaning I don't have a hard scum read on him. And I think you're confusing my last bit there. Admittedly reading it back it does sound like I mean Dong flipping. I meant if one of a few other people flip, I would get information to help me sort Dong.

okay I can accept that explanation for that
even so; it's still hollow posting in that you are making random reads and dumping them in the thread for no real reason

[MarioManiac4]

idk what to think right now this game feels dead and i don't have enough reads
i think io and luv are misunderstanding each other's points but everyone has probably already come to that conclusion

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: QuantumRadius
blatant opportunism

[MarioManiac4]

L1 them

[MarioManiac4]

</3

[MarioManiac4]

The Io wagon is bad.

[MarioManiac4]

i dislike io wagon because occam's razor is a thing
it's more likely io just has a cold and calculating playstyle than scum using a claim to be a VI to elaborately jump on the wagon than to jump on for the scummy things QR has done.
also the wagon composition is pretty horrible.

[MarioManiac4]

Wait LUV so you're telling me that unless I have a history of playing with Io I cannot look at her ISO and make a reasonable judgement of whether she is cold or calculating or not? Where does meta come into this?
BTD and Flairs are too inactive to push, and Chickadee isn't low-hanging fruit. Also, there is no possible momentum on any of those, whereas Io was generally suspected.
I take issue with Kop, QD, Chickadee and Sesq.

[MarioManiac4]

that's not what I'm claiming

[MarioManiac4]

I'm saying that, I'm looking at Io's ISO, especially the part where she basically tells Radius they're an idiot for claiming Kawso scumslipped, and thinking, "Yeah, it's much, much more likely that this is just Io than that this is indicative of Io!scum"

[MarioManiac4]

Wait LUV so you're telling me that unless I have a history of playing with Io I cannot look at her ISO and make a reasonable judgement of whether she is cold or calculating or not? Where does meta come into this?
BTD and Flairs are too inactive to push, and Chickadee isn't low-hanging fruit. Also, there is no possible momentum on any of those, whereas Io was generally suspected.
I take issue with Kop, QD, Chickadee and Sesq.

You made it with a certainty that seems like you know for sure or have extensive experience with her.

Io was only generally suspected by me before her wagon picked up so I disagree there.

Why do you suspect those players?

I'm pretty sure I didn't; and even as scum, I wouldn't be sure anyway, so that's not really a point at all.
Kop appears every once in a while to vote a wagon. Town sheeping? Scum wagon-hopping? N0 Global Neapolitan Serial Killer? I don't know. But what I do know is that I want to see some original content from him.
QuantumRadius is actually townier now. I still think that 112 is completely and utterly horrid (and also a very possible scumbuddy interaction.) , although this game is dead them claiming to have no reads whatsoever is extremely sketchy. Though their enthusiasm to get reads in the "rxn test" seems somewhat towny.
I've been over Chickadee.
Sesq has done jackshit.

[MarioManiac4]

I'm saying that, I'm looking at Io's ISO, especially the part where she basically tells Radius they're an idiot for claiming Kawso scumslipped, and thinking, "Yeah, it's much, much more likely that this is just Io than that this is indicative of Io!scum"

Yeah but why you're basing that on such little supporting evidence? I think town are more likely to at least meta dive her a bit just to be sure.

You're trying to tell me that Io would completely change her personality and tone in a game where old games are freely available to view just because she got a red Role PM and therefore I need to look at other games?

[MarioManiac4]

Like what does metaing even change? It's not something alignment would change, so what is the point?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
on second thought I agree with this

[MarioManiac4]

I'm saying that, I'm looking at Io's ISO, especially the part where she basically tells Radius they're an idiot for claiming Kawso scumslipped, and thinking, "Yeah, it's much, much more likely that this is just Io than that this is indicative of Io!scum"

Yeah but why you're basing that on such little supporting evidence? I think town are more likely to at least meta dive her a bit just to be sure.

A2 what do you think of this post?

LUV I'ma have to ask you to site your sources plz

Do you have statistics to back it up?

@_@

[MarioManiac4]

Im tempted to scumread Kawso because I townread him

[MarioManiac4]

I want to work with a flip. It's mountainous, so there is not the normal caution necessary day one.

What made you feel Dong is more likely to go through than Io?

Momentum is a thing, io is stale and a2 was on quantum last time I did dong which stalled that then.

As for dongempire his insistence on pushing Io for using the word lynch even after I pointed out now bothers me. Io may be scum but it would not be for something like that.

ah yes i remember this game i should probably play it

[MarioManiac4]

idk why i quoted that or indeed why it was on my q+ at all

[MarioManiac4]

a2 im sorry to tell you this but dongempire is probably town and your case is confbiased.
thinking someone trying to paint themselves as conftown when they're not is scummy is bad.
your second point is basically just a possibility. it's saying he's doing something, but there's no actual evidence that's what he's doing over town who realised it was too weak to push on at that point.
same with the third.
same with the fourth.
it feels like you just thought dong was scum and made a case on him based on him being scum

[MarioManiac4]

a2 im sorry to tell you this but dongempire is probably town and your case is confbiased.
thinking someone trying to paint themselves as conftown is scummy isn't bad
your second point is basically just a possibility. it's saying he's doing something, but there's no actual evidence that's what he's doing over town who realised it was too weak to push on at that point.
same with the third.
same with the fourth.
it feels like you just thought dong was scum and made a case on him based on him being scum

ebwop

[MarioManiac4]

dong fits tunnelled town perfectly, i don't like either wagon
i would like chickadee/sesq but i don't think both will flip scum and idk which is more likely to

[MarioManiac4]

NO KAWSO

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: sesq
choochoo

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: sesq
choochoo

that's not the sound of bussing...

damn right it isn't

[MarioManiac4]

No I'm going to lynch DeltaW
VOTE: DeltaW
sheep me to freelo

[MarioManiac4]

first thing i do is reconsider my reads and realise there's a probability they are wrong
if i'm right and people don't let me take credit for it postgame i'd just be like "ok well that's kinda dickish" but i haven't seen anything of the sort happen ever

[MarioManiac4]

(probability is meant to be possibility excuse my lack of thinking skills)

[MarioManiac4]

well yes it depends on what you define as taking credit i am assuming you meant "oh hey my reads were right omg " responded by "omfg no u didnt shut up u jackass"

[MarioManiac4]

what post exactly do you want me to comment on im extremely lazy

[MarioManiac4]

Of course, you shitpost.

wow you know me so well

[MarioManiac4]

why do you think io wanted to dodge potential blame

for being on a wagon that got to lynch early

that sounds like an incredibly unlikely thing
using the word lynch isn't really scummy it shows that you want to lynch somebody yes that is the town win condition you do not win by pushing mafia you win by lynching mafia
saying that people are scummy for pushing things d1 is bad
the fact io didn't think the potential benefit in information outweighed the potential deficit in lynching isn't really AI
lurking is not alignment indicative although i disagree that io is lurking
i dont really see how io is throwing shade
io not specifying that QR gets defence time doesn't mean that wasn't her intention

honestly dong i think you're way too caught up in this and even though you think io is scum you should take a step back and consider how AI your reasons actually are

[MarioManiac4]

Mario isnt scum by the way, he'd have slipped some point by now.

http://www.britishburnassociation.org/burns-units

[MarioManiac4]

I am though and I was the one your sick burn landed upon

[MarioManiac4]

HI GUYS I SHOULD START PLAYING THIS GAME.

[MarioManiac4]

My experience leads me to believe that town would've consolidated on Io already.

So I'm scum for not having already been lynched.
OK.

well, you're not wrong. scumbuddies could be holding out and stagnating the lynch.

im actually up for lynching this

[MarioManiac4]

My deal that I offered, what's the scum motivation behind it under than buying me another night? Scum really can't afford to lose any members in this setup so me just trying to live for one night is pretty pointless unless you think I'm amazing at playing scum and some sort of mastermind who's going to lay out a plan to victory for my partners during the night phase. Listen, town will hold me to my word if they think I'm scum and lynch me, especially if I go back on it.

am also up for lynching this

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: QuantumRadius
sheep me to freelo

[MarioManiac4]

how could you ;-;

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
don't mind this either

pedit: io wagon started, was shiny, ppl forgot about qr

[MarioManiac4]

yes we get it dongempire you think io is scum

[MarioManiac4]

i tr io but i'm willing to vote her at this point just to end this day zzz

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Io

[MarioManiac4]

the mod was online about 6 or seven hours ago btw

[MarioManiac4]

Votecount that is not imitating DeltaW :good:

Io (7)- Lil Uzi Vert, QuantumRadius, Steel, Dongempire, Chickadee, Io, MarioManiac4
Lil Uzi Vert (1)- Kop
Chickadee (1)- Sesq

Not Voting (4) - Flairs, BTD6_maker, JimmyUrineMoneyShot, A2

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

OK so Io's dead.

[MarioManiac4]

Hi!

[MarioManiac4]

Uhhhh okay so that's really fucking weird.
I probably want to lynch Sesq or Chickadee or LUV today. Idk.

[MarioManiac4]

What the fuck.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

[MarioManiac4]

rushing, Day 2 has begun.

Flairs replaces Flairs I guess.

also what does this mean is flairs staying in or is there no replacement

[MarioManiac4]

I'm thinking LUV is town. He pushed hard for the Io lynch and I don't see scum!LUV doing that knowing he would be lynched the next day.

i can think of two things you could've meant by this

a) scum!LUV would know that he'd be lynched because he hardpushed town on d1- i have never seen any lynch happen for that reason
b) scum!LUV knew he would be lynched and hardpushed Io anyway- hardpushing secures mislynch without any disadvantage

i don't really see your point w/ either

[MarioManiac4]

wow this game sure is a bundle of activity isn't it

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: QuantumRadius

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: QuantumRadius

why

you're here
you're not giving reads
you're not giving a vote
you're just letting the game fall into apathy while doing nothing about your scumreads
you are the problem and I want you dead

[MarioManiac4]

so basically you're going to do nothing and when someone calls you out for it you're going to vote them

[MarioManiac4]

so basically you're going to do nothing and when someone calls you out for it you're going to vote them

there are 11 players in this game. im not the only reason the game is inactive
your reasoning is awful

you're here but you're not doing anything productive and you're more than willing to let the other players not do anything.

[MarioManiac4]

so basically you're going to do nothing and when someone calls you out for it you're going to vote them

there are 11 players in this game. im not the only reason the game is inactive
your reasoning is awful

you're here but you're not doing anything productive and you're more than willing to let the other players not do anything.

the same could be said for half the playerlist
why single out me?

{MarioManiac4, JimmyUrineMoneyShot, Chickadee, Sesq} have done things
{Lil Uzi Vert, Kop, Flairs, Macabre, Dongempire, BTD6_maker} aren't here
you are alone in the position of being here but doing nothing to get out of apathy

[MarioManiac4]

i understand hating this game but its d2 and we should start lynching for actual things. scum are just going to steer random lynching onto town.

[MarioManiac4]

As far as I am aware Macabre is an alt account that hasn't been activated and is being replaced.

[MarioManiac4]

(source is https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p9431026)

[MarioManiac4]

Have you looked at QR?

[MarioManiac4]

this is where im at

Extra-Special Townbloc of Happy Friends

MarioManiac4, JimmyUrineMoneyShot, Dongempire

Candidates For Promotion

Chickadee, BTD6_maker, Kop

Watchlist For Meaniness

Flairs, Sesq, Macabre

Wanted for Bullying and General Sad Crimes

Lil Uzi Vert, QuantumRadius

arguably some of my townleans are weak but i don't have enough solid townreads to do anything with the gamestate otherwise

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
oh

really

[MarioManiac4]

UNVOTE:
i need to think about this more actually
ftr my main two options for today would be lynching LUV or asking to abandon the game

[MarioManiac4]

you're not supposed to claim scum with me this is white flag

[MarioManiac4]

but seriously; i want to abandon the game
this might be viewed as tactical because scum win is almost guaranteed but there's no merit in winning a game like this and scum will know that
nobody is enjoying it as far as i am aware and everyone is incredibly demotivated. there is no chance of effective scumhunting. no chance of town working together. heck, scum don't even have a chance to manipulate
it's incredibly boring and if i have to i'll lynch luv but more than anything i think this game should just cease to be

[MarioManiac4]

then come PM the mod with me.

[MarioManiac4]

I

[MarioManiac4]

#FreeIo

[MarioManiac4]

Ok yes this game needs to be abandoned af right now.

[MarioManiac4]

Like when you modkill 3 people simultaneously you don't even need player voting to tell that the game needs to be abandoned immediately.

[MarioManiac4]

that's l1
someone should lolhammer

[MarioManiac4]

Mod: As Macabre is an absent slot, only 7 players are active in the game. Since majority for 7 players alive (unless you seriously want to replace Mac at this point) is 4, that should be hammer.

[MarioManiac4]

Vote to FreeLO

DeltaW (L-0) - MarioManiac4, Lil Uzi Vert, Chickadee, QuantumRadius, JimmyUrineMoneyShot

that's it. delta's dead.
...
that's game over.

[MarioManiac4]

ok let's have a guess as to who was scum i guess macabre and btd6

[MarioManiac4]

Okay but for real.
I was scum. I might out my partner if you guys want me to. \o/
The mod tried his best I'm sure but there were a lot of mistakes. I don't think that was what killed the game though. It was more of an apathy thing.

[MarioManiac4]

I think a lot of people got a bad impression of my townplay from this game. I'd like to think I'm not that bad; I just find it hard to imitate myself as scum so I just tried to hang around pushing people that I may have pushed as town on a raw evaluation of how scummy I thought they were.
In the endgame, QR pushed on me for the tone of my push on them; I think it was a post I would've made as town (i.e more characteristic of me than my alignment.) Of course, I can't know for certain, and QR did a good job on being the only one onto me at the end- I think, at least. I was generally pretty happy with how townread I was.

[MarioManiac4]

Hi. You've probably noticed that I have been advocating for game abandonment in the thread. That's genuine; and I would like to officially request it by PM.
There's no point in playing this game for me. Town are willing to lynch whoever. Why should I try to win the game when there are no challenges in my way? Nobody wants to catch scum. Nobody can be manipulated into townreading me. Flairs is MIA and Kop may as well be. The game is dead. The townies don't want to play it. If they did, I could play it for them. But they hate it just as much. They're willing to lynch a replacing slot for nothing but apathy. I don't want to play it, because nobody wants to catch me.
Really, I just want the game to end, so that I don't have to spend weeks grinding out a win that was secured a long, long time ago. I understand this may be a hard decision to make as a mod. But at some point you have to ask the question, "If nobody's enjoying it, why are we still playing?"
Of course, the decision of whether to ask the main thread is completely your own, and thanks for reading this whatever you decide

^This was the PM I sent to the mod which explained why I decided to abandon the game even though I probably could've won it normally.

[MarioManiac4]

Half of me wants to do an anlysis to see why most players (including me) were so unmotivated, but I am not motivated to do so.

Apathyception!

[MarioManiac4]

don't modkill 3 players

[MarioManiac4]

holy shit if you had actually modkilled Kop idfk what i wouldve done looooooooool

[MarioManiac4]

but yeah typically the thing to do when people flake out is to replace them.
you probably couldn't get all replacements in for like over a week in this game though lol. another reason why it was right to abandon it.

[MarioManiac4]

wait you asked to get Flairs back
no wonder she didn't try to play >.>

[MarioManiac4]

honestly in this game it'd probably just be the ideal outcome to say "slots are inactive, the people who are playing aren't enjoying the game, some want to be lynched, we can't find replacements, let's call the game here" which is what ended up happening \o/

^me lol

[MarioManiac4]

do you have statistics to back it up

[MarioManiac4]

A2 slot was empty since the 14th of July if that counts

[MarioManiac4]

Loooooooooooooooool
I would totally do that but it gives the impression that I am a very logical player which I'm not. It'd probably be better for you idk

[MarioManiac4]

The true fate for all mafia games is to be abandoned