Midsummer Night's Revelry - [Game Over]

[A2]

Good morning.
If one of {Keyen, Fire, Cowbells, ActionDan, or Vecna} hasn't invoted anyone to dance you could invite me :3
I'ma catch up.

[A2]

Hi

guys

girls!

-f



Will be at Pokemon go festival today so probably not too much from me for a bit.

wait.
Pokemon Go festivals are a thing?

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Lady MariaR, may I have the pleasure of bringing you to this dance?

yes, of course Gentleman Dunnstral, I would love to -

oh.

HURT WITH A BLADE: dunnie

i'm not accepting or rejecting any dance requests until EoD and neither should any other lady

the way i'd like this to play out is for town to collectively decide on a gentleman we're lynching at some arbitrary deadline before EoD (probably using pseudo votes/hurt tags/whatever) and then have hebi assign pairings either randomly (doesn't have to be provable since siterules obv) or using her own judgement so that scum can't influence them

the last two times this setup ran town made a lot of stupid decisions (deliberately pairing with scum to "suicide", leaving the dance too early rather than see who hammers them, accepting proposals too early) and since town still hasnt won a large dance so i'd like to prevent that from happening a third time ^_^

Lady Gigabyte, you're a truly great person, will you take my hand and dance with me?

aww keyen <3

we'll see! what do you think of what I proposed above?

and for the record, whoever winds up pairing with me shouldnt expect me to use the hood at all. dont really see the use of hoods this setup beyond night talk.

pedit: damn it maria

Way to take my fun out of playing mafia.
But I mean like, I get the thought process of Hebi assigning partners but A. I kinda wanted to play mafia to have fun with the mechanic and that sucks the fun out but this isn't the biggest issue I have. The biggest issue is B. What if I can sync with Hebi's reads and Hebi tells me to just deal with it? Or C. What if we just want to use a hood to help improve our skills of reading them.
Like for example, I kinda want a hood with people I need to get better reading. Like for example Vecna. I feel like a hood would help me read them. Or ActionDan (who I had a fun time with at Cali Meet), I feel like I could learn how to read them if I was in a hood with them.

Like, I get the mindset you're presenting here, and I'll go with it.
but I kinda want to use this as a learning experience.

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Hi.

Re: giga

I think waiting for EoD to choose pairings or not is not a huge deal either way. Early pairings, if formed organically enough, could limit scum's options and potentially force a scum/scum pairing. I don't have much hope for a scum gentleman lynch at the end of pre-dance regardless of which option is chosen.

Hebichan choosing pairings makes sense, but also sucks the fun out of it, frankly. I do think that's the best way to actually get a scum lynch before dance phase though.

I'm pretty sure I'd have been happy to partner up with you, but that caveat about no hood talk is a no go, since hoods are fun

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lots of cuts

I am also heavily agreeing with this. It's like a townbloc. If it forms naturally then it's at it's best.
I'm responding to posts as I catchup, so...
But either way, actually if I think about making Couple pairings like townblocs then I guess I rather just have my townbloc formed naturally with someone I want to work with.
So I want to have my bond formed with naturally with someone I want to work with.

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I feel like I know who mint berry crunch is. Probably because they're using the same avatar, though It feels like they're trying to play different on this account

Also I won't snitch

I'm not a hidden alt. But yes I am using this account to play differently.

YOU'RE LIKE ME! I use this alt to attempt to lower my posts per day and spamposting style and mostly I just end up lurking until I have something to say.

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Hey guys, im fine with publicly decided pairings/lynch, but I also do think pairing people together with people they are better at reading (due to prior games etc) would improve our chances of finding scum. Id have a slight preference for giga, but if she aint gonna use the hood anyway it doesnt matter much.

We should probably narrow the booting down to the 2 scummiest people and pair the rest before 6 days are past to not have any last minute shenanigans with people not being around. We could even consider pairing our townclear with the 2nd most scummy and keeping the pairr around untill the intermission to increase our odds of the scum not killing the pair with the townclear in the intermission.

Also agreeing here. If a couple can read each other, a couple should form.

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Yeah ok, my initial gut feeling says that Cabd is scum here

And an Alisae would like you to expand on this gut feeling, because I think this gut feeling is very wrong. I'm not saying I townread Cabd. I'm mostly saying I just disagree with a read no Cabd this early.

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Cabd and LLD both feel pretty much scum-confirmed

I agree with this

Explain an Alisae doesn't get it?

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Lol what if scum no kills?

Why would they no kill again?

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Good morning.
If one of {Keyen, Fire, Cowbells, ActionDan, or Vecna} hasn't invoted anyone to dance you could invite me :3
I'ma catch up.

Not before you answer my riddle:

What do two woofbringers make?

I just woke up, Alisae doesn't have the answers to these ;~;

[A2]

Fire why do you think scum!Giggles suggests what she did in 20

[A2]

Fire why do you think scum!Giggles suggests what she did in 20

Because it's giggles

I kinda wanted something helpful ;~;

[A2]

I'm playing mafia
I already made a terrible decision, alright?

[A2]

ok then, RC, let's dance and we can blow each other up.

You're down for that right?

Like I promise you if I dance with RC I will instantly blow myself up day 1. He thinks I'm scum, this should be good right?

Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawp

LLD I never played with chu
but if you two are both town, I think that would be a strong asset to have, yeah?

[A2]

do you have any reason to townread her atm?

No. I'm not getting the scumreads on her either.

Its just I feel like if both LLD and Cowbells were town, scum would LOVE them both leaving the dance.

[A2]

For me it's because he's asking for permission to pair up with someone that he's probably going to pair up with regardless of permission so he's just grandstanding and trying to keep a good image

Okay
this is absolutely terrible.
I don't think scum!Cabd even needs to ask for premission here.
And I most certainly think scum!Cabd doesn't care about his image.
I don't think he would need to keep a good image as scum.
He would just get it via play.

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Also want to address the "grandstanding" thing.

Just because I came into the game while signing up thinking I'd instapair with penguin doesn't mean I'm not open to hearing reasons against it.

Any "breaking" strategy that at least sounds possible on paper should be debated.

Re: LLD and your concerns; I've tried breaking strats in games this size before and herding cats is impossible, so chalk it up to "prior shitty experiences tell me this won't work"

I kinda like this response from Cabd mostly because it sounds reasonable.





pedit: If I had a fucking vote I would put it towards fucking Dunnstrals way.

[A2]

Yeah except I don't give a fuck what you think, Troubadour. Also, Troubadour asking for lynches when he's on the verge of being left out of the dance is interesting.

what the fuck is this post

The truth cold and hard.
Duh

[A2]

I mean like
I'm kind of interested to hear about the part you're refering to.
But the first bit I can sympathize with.

[A2]

Come on Dunnstral~. I'm READY TO DIE~.

Altslipping uggggh

[A2]

I will become beautiful

[A2]

if I had votes right now
it would be on Dunnstral.

[A2]

As much as it would be entertaining to pair up with you, if you and A2 think you can get more out of a pairing I can live with it. We had our first dance. *sniff*

Wait!
I get to have a Cabd!
All to myself?!?!?!?!
/me blushes
OH MAN THE GREAT TIMES WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE



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I think I will dance with A2, if there is no objection.

Have we played in a game with each other before?
I don't remember off the top of my head.
But I mean like
it could be fun.
But I think I'ma be taking a Cabd.
That is, assuming he WANTS me.
or it must be I'm way below his standards ;~;

but if I'm not good enough for a Cabd I guess I could go with you or ActionDan.

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I object!

A2 is my backup if shiro for some odd reason declines.

lmao fire.

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I object!

A2 is my backup if shiro for some odd reason declines.

Don't be okay with this A2

Never let yourself be a BACKUP

but Fire knows my interests and what I like to do in my spare time!!!
I'm sure we would have a great time together!

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I object!

A2 is my backup if shiro for some odd reason declines.

Don't be okay with this A2

Never let yourself be a BACKUP

Don't tell A2 what to be!
A2 can be a back up dancer if he wants to be!

Is that a doggy treat in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?~


Okay
dunno if that was a good one or not.

[A2]

Yo Alisae I am happy to see you.

Thats Alibae to you

[A2]

Id like maxous to team up with A2 actually.

Id hate Cabd to pair up with A2

Please convince me on Cabd
because I really do not understand that read.



and omg everyone wants me um...
I think I need some sleep and thinking about this before I decide the dude I want to dance with.

[A2]

tbh
I kinda want to see Cabd's response to me being willing to dance with him before I decide on a partner.
And I'ma sleep on this
gnite :3

[A2]

okay I mean like
I get it's like 11 pages in
but I don't feel like scum!Cabd needs to play that way, ya know?


also like uggggh
right now my mind is telling me Maxous
but my body
my body is telling Caaaaaaabd





god I hope I am not the only one who knows that reference.

[A2]

wait
did I say 11?
Okay
I think I just need some sleep if I confused 11 for 18.

gnite.

[A2]

More seriously, I'm not closing off the option of dancing with Cabd, as there aren't many of the gentlemen I'm especially enthused about dancing with at present. I don't have a strong town read on him, but since we're not even 24 hours in I'm willing to see what he does once he digs into things. I think I get his town lean on me and why it's just a lean, so that drops my inherent paranoia a bit.

In that case I think it might be better if you two dance then
I feel like you two would probably benefit more from a neighbourhood then I would with Cabd.

[A2]

I thought I abandoned you
^-^
-_-

[A2]

GET AWAY FROM ME YOU MONSTER

nothing much. Probably gonna launch up Bayonetta again sometime soon. hbu?

[A2]

Yeah Fire, stop sucking when you're around a Priscila.

[A2]

I'm just as likely to go for alisae right now but penguin did sign up assuming she would pair with me. So it's her call if I do that or aggressively attacksort alisae.

Ladies first etc

I'll be waiting~

[A2]

I'm just as likely to go for alisae right now but penguin did sign up assuming she would pair with me. So it's her call if I do that or aggressively attacksort alisae.

Ladies first etc

I'll be waiting~

What is your explicit read on me? And on penguin?

You two are both townleans. Like
you two haven't really done anything that really stood out as scummy to me. But at the same time you haven't really done anything that's like
super super obvtown I want to townbin you.

[A2]

My highest townread is now RadiantCowbells.

[A2]

I don't agree to scorched earth: it's much more likely to kill town than scum since all scum ladies will find a way to accept anything that comes their way and scum gentlemen can at the very least attempt to ask hebichan or potentionally their scum partner or honestly just work the entire floor. In any case the scum gentleman/ladies are going to have a much much easier time of staying alive than their counterparts. That's not even taking into account apathy, which barely a day into this game is affecting me when I come back to the thread and see 10 pages filled with metric tons of bullshit. Any town that signs up for a scorched earth plan that feels apathetic to the game will find appeal in just dying. It's exactly the same as if town suicides early if they feel they got stuck with a scum partner. And lastly, I see no appeal in getting scum "off balance" by forcing them to take their kill early. They shoot a mostly random town/town pair and the town is no better off for it.

I can't read most of you for shit. Maxous and GBT are town reads. Everyone else is a work in progress

I really like this post.

I really like this post.

[A2]

Have I been pocketted hard enough or does Cowbells need to pocket me harder?~

[A2]

I don't agree to scorched earth: it's much more likely to kill town than scum since all scum ladies will find a way to accept anything that comes their way and scum gentlemen can at the very least attempt to ask hebichan or potentionally their scum partner or honestly just work the entire floor. In any case the scum gentleman/ladies are going to have a much much easier time of staying alive than their counterparts. That's not even taking into account apathy, which barely a day into this game is affecting me when I come back to the thread and see 10 pages filled with metric tons of bullshit. Any town that signs up for a scorched earth plan that feels apathetic to the game will find appeal in just dying. It's exactly the same as if town suicides early if they feel they got stuck with a scum partner. And lastly, I see no appeal in getting scum "off balance" by forcing them to take their kill early. They shoot a mostly random town/town pair and the town is no better off for it.

I can't read most of you for shit. Maxous and GBT are town reads. Everyone else is a work in progress

I really like this post.

Okay on a real note
why bring this up now?

[A2]

okey Cowbells but like
Sorched Earth was a thing that wasn't even being brought up right now.
bringing it up kinda just came off to me as "Eh, look at me I'm doing something useful."

[A2]

Is this the part where I go back into Cowbells' pocket?

[A2]

Somewhere in the Bay Area.
Like
we met at Cali meet Fire.
you know exactly where I'm at -_-

[A2]

{RadiantCowbels, Hebichan}
{}
{}
{}
{}
{}
{LLD, Maxous, ActionDan, Gigga}
{Cabd, Fire, Penguin}
{Everyone else}
{Vecna, Mint Berry Church}
{Dunnstral}

[A2]

Shiro is now on the "needs to die" list.

But can we do Dunnstral first?

[A2]

Like
if Shiro is town
they'll provide more to work with
so I want to give them that chance to give them stuff to work with
meanwhile we can kill Dunnstral first and if they haven't provided anything but then then we'll cross taht bridge when we get there with pitchforks and fire.

[A2]

Alisae, how come you are actually appearing completely unafraid of getting pocketed again this game? Youre joking around about it quite a lot, but apparently youre not even realizing what is being said when it comes to the pairings.

Because I feel good about my reads.
It's kinda early to be worrying about this stuff ya know
I have to attempt to re-evaluating my townreads later that is IF I need to.
I feel like scum!Vecna doesn't like my reads.

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Pretty sure Alisae is scum here.
Also Shiro will only die if I get bored of this game and decide to walk.
Which in all honesty will probably happen if LLD and RC are here for a very long time.

Lol
since when
have you
EVER
scumread me correctly.

If anything your scumreads on me just come out of paranoia like in Biochemistry or Spring Fever (Yes, you scumread me early at the start of this) or Danganropa.

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Pretty sure Alisae is scum here.
Also Shiro will only die if I get bored of this game and decide to walk.
Which in all honesty will probably happen if LLD and RC are here for a very long time.

Ever consider that mafia is not the game for you and maybe you should quit?

I hate mafia but I play it to remind myself that I hate it.

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Fiiiire why the pessimism I find both rc and lld to be pretty damn town.

Okay Shiro
there is a point where you have to be
somewhat transparently town
It would be very helpful
if that point was now
assuming you ARE town.

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Lld, i'm going to try and reach out to you here. If you want to discuss why you think I am scum I will respond to your points in the morning. Though you need to remain level headed. It's a pity if you feel attacked, but from my pov I haven't insulted you once and you've been raging at me which is why I'm doing this

Alisae, you are welcome to join in with reasons to scumread me

I hate the fact you were for the most part hiding behind other people like Vecna.

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So here's where I am.

I have a town tell on Penguin that's 100% good so far. I'd rather not burn said tell.

If me linking with her is going to cause her to get auto-lynched; I'll pair with somebody who isn't as scummy; or I'll intentionally get flipped in the pre-dance phase to confirm my reads and tell was coming from town. I'm that confident.

People seem to already be lining up to lynch either my half or penguin's half of the potential pairing, sooooo.

The onyl reason I haven't taken action is that in the end; I want her opinion on this.

This
kinda feels like town!Cabd tbh.
it's just
the tone here just
sounds pure
and honest.

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Lady A2, would you like to square off into the sunset together?

Let's dance together in the pale moonlight.

sorry Maxous

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Ok

I actually townread you now but scumread A2 and it will be helpful if you can sort them

Lol.

[A2]

Catching up

[A2]

A2: Tone sound natural, setup ideas are organic and sufficiently independent. If LLD and RC both flip town at some point, major points for trying to de-escalate the death spiral. Townier than most of the player list thus far.

Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawp

LLD I never played with chu
but if you two are both town, I think that would be a strong asset to have, yeah?

i'm really failing to see why this is worthy of town points - just going like "oh stop it guys!" is really easy to do as scum and almost definitely doesnt stop the conflict at hand

can you elaborate on why you feel otherwise? also yes im really far behind bc i kind of just gave up mentally after lld and rc paired and if anyone has a spare plastic spoon to gouge my eyeballs with pls tell me bc im in need

Giga is an amazing person and I would like to play with her <3 though I don't think I would be happy to dance with her since she doesn't like hoods. i'll think about this.

i don't mind i guess reactively using hoods?

like if you ask me a question i'll answer it. thats probably it

i just want to disconnect myself as far away as possible from my hood but if that hurts my partner then it's probably not worth it. compromise

Penguin feels so town idk why

i agree but there A2 tr doesnt sit well with me and i'm not really liking ali so far

what are your thoughts there?

I was kinda scumreading cabd but i forgot why

can you look over his iso and maybe point out a few posts you didn't like? any sort of expansion on that would help a lot imo since if you're town i dont want you lynched d1

Hey Giggles
You should just take like
a tiny bit more effort
when reading me
because 90% of the time
you're wrong.

Just a recomendation

Because like
the only time you really correctly read me as town
was when you were scum imo.

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sorry Maxous

nah, i'm kidding - i actually think you and cabd is a really good town-pairing.
If Penguin is town i am sorry that i kinda pressured them out of it.

So uhh, i don't think Mint Berry wants to pair with me though.

Hebichan?

yaaaaaaaaaaay!

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i agree but there A2 tr doesnt sit well with me and i'm not really liking ali so far

what are your thoughts there?

Idk what to think of alisae yet. I know her as the person who's bubbly but compared to here, she seems off of her personality. Maybe because of her trying to change her spammy playstyle?

Ya'll can let me deal with ALisae. We're gonna have a nice chat. Just me, Alisae, and a chair with rope.

BORING
I mean
you're speaking my language
but gawsh Cabd
you need to get a bit more creative with that kinda of stuff
ya know?

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i agree but there A2 tr doesnt sit well with me and i'm not really liking ali so far

what are your thoughts there?

Idk what to think of alisae yet. I know her as the person who's bubbly but compared to here, she seems off of her personality. Maybe because of her trying to change her spammy playstyle?

Ya'll can let me deal with ALisae. We're gonna have a nice chat. Just me, Alisae, and a chair with rope.

Sucks that alisae danced with you lool

Hey keyen
why are you opposed to our pairing?

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Penguin is town but a 100% town seems a bit exaggerated.

Um, you know Cabd and Penguin are married right?
Cabd probably has some way to correctly read P_A.

@Keyen

can you talk to me about Cabd more?
Like
gimmie an actual case.

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Hebi do u enjoy being IC?

Okay you know what
If I had a vote right now
I'd kill this
Because Fire being quite fucking useless right now.
Like
if Fire only has fucking THIS to add to the fucking game
then I would kill it.

I mean
I feel like he would contribute atleast something MORE then just this.

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Gentlemen

keyenpeydee

Dunnstral

Firebringer

RadiantCowbells

Priscila

Cabd

Maxous
Vecna
ActionDan

Ladies

MariaR
gigabyteTroubadour

Shiro
A2

penguin_alien

hebichan

Lady Lambdadelta

Mint Berry Crunch

The way it feels to me atm, most scum are probably hiding in the female population. I dont have any super-strong scumreads atm. I had some gutpings on people, but nothing super solid yet. Cabd has started feeling a little better, but could still very well be scum. Alisae is once again scumreading me and feels a bit off, but we read eachother this very same way in nearly every game we play, and so far were always reading eachother wrong.

Maxous, care to elaborate why youre scumreading me to this extent? Id think you of all people should be intimately aware of my scumplay, and that this is nothing like it.

Then idunno
Maybe we should have like
a CONVERSATION?

THAT WOULD BE FUCKING GREAT.

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Maxous, care to elaborate why youre scumreading me to this extent? Id think you of all people should be intimately aware of my scumplay, and that this is nothing like it.

what?
that game where you completely snowed me?

I don't like your cabd read, i thought it was weird you were pushing me to pair with A2 and your request to pair with Giga felt out-of-nowhere and unexplained.
And now you're scumreading A2?

As opposed to pyp where I cuddled you with kindness, ill just be blunt here. I wanted you to pair with A2 because A2 as town gets completely pocketed by competent manipulating scum and will defend them to death, to the detriment of the game. Since you are probably town, and Id estimate youre way less manipulative as scum then Cabd, it felt like a much much better and pro-town pairing that way.

Whether A2 is scum or not is completely besides the point. He tends to scumread me in literally every game we feel, and every time it just feels weird and forced - and I bet he'd merily continue that habit as scum.

Sometimes, it doesnt hurt to ask these things. Lets work together this game and snow the scumteam for once.

lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
you do not think highly of my play.
I mean
I understand your thinking and thought process here because I use it for other people like Titus where I try to find scum through their own reads and how people read them.


But let me teach you a lesson about scum!Alisae.
My game is clean majority of the time, unless it's Adventure Zone where I put myself in a position where I am like super uncomfortable 100% of the time.
and I do whatever the fuck I want
because as scum
I recongize I have complete freedom over my actions.
So if I feel like doing something
I'll just
do it.

So to answer if I would push you as scum or not?
I quite don't think it matters.
I also think it's quite a waste of time to speculate on right now.
For starters A. I'm not scum here
B. It depends on the Gamestate and
C. It depends on wether I feel like it or not.

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Maria, Alisae, and hebichan is the scum team.


Hebichan to be replaced when fake god corrects the role pms

Yeah
I want this shit to die now.

[A2]

Dunnstral is very scummy

[A2]

Did someone say Bully?~

[A2]

NO BULLYING ALLOWED

Anti-Bullying Beam Cannon: Dunnfucko

[A2]

Keyen

[A2]

Except the thing is
if he was town
I probably woulda townread him already
and I don't care about his posts at all
and has he even been scumhunting???????????

[A2]

I hate the fact you were for the most part hiding behind other people like Vecna.

This is for Dunnstral.

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Okay you know what
If I had a vote right now
I'd kill this
Because Fire being quite fucking useless right now.
Like
if Fire only has fucking THIS to add to the fucking game
then I would kill it.

I mean
I feel like he would contribute atleast something MORE then just this.

This is for you




Like
have you been even reading my posts?
Because like
that's not what I've been saying
at all.

[A2]

Has anyone even decided to say
"Hey, let's talk about this Keyenpeyweeeeeeeeeeeeeeedeeeeeee?"
Like
he's doing nothing imo.

[A2]

A2 is scum

I will destroy you.

[A2]

You will have to explain to me how me being useless is alignment indicative.
You seem openly hostile to me for no reason which makes me think your scum.

You've been scumhunting where and when?
Remember that one time
you asked me
for a readlist?
Yeah
you didn't care about it imo
otherwise we would had
a conversation
about it.



And Fire
at this point I don't even take scumreads from you seriously anymore.
I really don't.

[A2]

Has anyone even decided to say
"Hey, let's talk about this Keyenpeyweeeeeeeeeeeeeeedeeeeeee?"
Like
he's doing nothing imo.

Maybe you should be talking about him since you think he is scum and he could be left now?

This feels like low hanging fruit shit.

Except the thing is
if Keyen was town
I am like
pretty sure I would be townreading him by now because he would have wrote something I care about

I mean
just look at his latest wallpost.
Did you see anything at all you cared about or that even looked like scumhunting?
No.
I Don't see any of it.

[A2]

I would like to get to the part where we start lynching things please?
I have many things I would just looooooooove to lynch right now.

[A2]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=71353

[A2]

You litterally just gave me a post where you became a broken record, and you are probably wrong here.

[A2]

Well Mafia is a terrible game anyways.

[A2]

YOUR FIRESTONE IS IN ANOTHER CASTLE
YOU
YOU
YOU
POKEMON

[A2]

Hey Fire, you're such a downer, you make a wooper frown.

[A2]

Holy shit the Wooper 3D sprite is actually kinda decent



But that
it's a gen 2 pokemon
you uncultured Growlithe.

[A2]

Holy shit the Wooper 3D sprite is actually kinda decent



But that
it's a gen 2 pokemon
you uncultured Growlithe.

How dare you call me uncultured.

You know my mother is a arcanine and my father is a houndoom

Your mother is a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

[A2]

Remember we used to just quote Monty python in games?

Nobody told us to stop spamposting.
Or scumread us
or bullied us
we just quoted Monty python.

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Comon Alisae; please don't make me regret pairing with you.

Less spam; more talk about the remaining pairings.

Then talk to me about reads
how do you read Fire and Keyen?

[A2]

Hey Giggles
You should just take like
a tiny bit more effort
when reading me
because 90% of the time
you're wrong.

Just a recomendation

Because like
the only time you really correctly read me as town
was when you were scum imo.

i correctly scumread you as scum in xyzzys game

and my scumread of you isnt even that strong? what have you done that's town?

you're not at all fazed by p_a's tr on you?

Um
it's an early game TR
am I supposed to be fazed by that shit?

[A2]

Then you clearly have 0 understanding of my play.

[A2]

Giggles that doesn't even matter.
An early TR like that is like early
early reads like those don't really mean much it's just something to get you off of the ground.

[A2]

Cowbells how much would you like to wagon a Dunnstral?
I would LOVE a Dunnstral wagon.

[A2]

I would be too.

[A2]

Yeah we can do Dunfucko and then I'ma just Powerwagon Keyen and/or Fire after that.

[A2]

Okay Giggles
connect the dots for me
because I clearly do not get it.

[A2]

Mkay~

[A2]

Ya know what
I'ma just lurk till we start doing the thing where we lynch people and I get my hood with Cabd.
Pce

[A2]

Believe it or not I'm generally pretty good as scum..........................

Man you must be amazing it's like we could never catch you in Spring Fever and it's like for one reason you wanted to keep on bussing me/Frog/Trans for umm... ~reasons~

[A2]

Here have some context.

[A2]

Cabd and Me are friends
but our pairing formed naturally.

[A2]

Anyway I did a bit of catch up on my kindle and holy shit A2 is the most obv scum I have ever seen but then there paried with Cabd my other sr who I think is town now because they're paired with A2 but anyway it's a great day because I will tunnel that slot into the ground

Good luck with that friendo
/me finger guns

--

Im not really too interested in letting the IC decide the pairings if she still cannot read me correctly here, even after stating she agrees with pretty much all my reads. Most scum have already forced their pairings so why try and dictate to town how they should play and limit their best way of being effective?

This is some scummy as fuck shit.

[A2]

I can't sleep ;~;

[A2]

I have so many fucking problems with Key's wall
like oh my fucking god you should actually read that shit ya know.

[A2]

You may need to open the image in another tab to actually get the full picture cuz ms shrinks it for um ~reasons~ but basicly its this.

63 Keyen is nervous for reasons but why? Like
what does he have to be afraid of?

82 is just scum hating letting the IC decide pairings.

Then he continues to post posts like for example 439 where he just continues to do nothing for some reason?
Like
he's not even scumhunting in that post or attempting to come up with stances here.

Also in like 587 he's not even trying to scumhunt. It's like he's not even trying right now imo.

589 is a readlist I want to keep note of later. Mostly his progression on A. Me and B. Cabd.

623 Keyen suddenly comes out with a null read on me? Like, what even triggered this? It doesn't feel natural.

I still don't see any actual scumhunting in 977



But the real kicker
the real scumposting
is 1350


Where did this scumread on me come from?
He's basicly scumreading me because I scumread him.
And this was the guy that kept on saying "Pair up with Maxous" his progression here on me is just god awful omg how has no one caught onto this.


His theory about the Cabd and Ali pairing is just really silly because the thing is
Cabd doesn't need to go with me. He could just gone with P_A easily.
And she's too town to be scum? ummmmmmmmm what does this even mean hello?

Also his response to 1029 is like a complete carbon copy of my approach to FA when I started to push her except with a lot less emotion. But the still feelings are stil the same and it is really disgusting.



Also his points on me just look like he's attempting to fight me in a dabte. He's not trying to sort me, he's just trying to win if that makes any sense. His evaluation of my play here just does not really seem natural at all.



The last thing I want to mention is his response to 1171, where Keyen was sorta like "I just want to lynch things and I hate this phase and this pre-dance talk" like in 587, but he calls me "Scum trying to be Town" for trying to have this exact same mindset???????????????




Keyen is scum.
End it.

[A2]

Key is obvious town and should be paired with Hebichan. I realize you are not going to listen to me here Hebichan because you scum read me even though you don't know why you scum read me but it would be remiss of me to not speak up. I am willing to leave the dance to ensure that Key stays if you will partner with Key.

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO?

[A2]

Like
if that circle was a cirlce of towniness and trust
the YOU is exaclty where Keyen is.

[A2]

If that's Earth and Moon then Dan is Pluto.

Dunnstral must be another fucking galaxy then god dam.

[A2]

The main reason you scumread me is because you think I'm 0% scumhunting. You don't even read my thoughts on the game and how i try to play the game.

If you're scum, you win, because I can't even fucking handle being pressured.

My main concerns is your progression over me and that you're points on me is just you attempting to win a debate and not a genuine evaluation of those posts.

[A2]

Yeah because I feel confident in my ability to read you?
Am I not supposed to feel confident in my ability to read you?

[A2]

You want me to replace out?
I can do that.

[A2]

Still not coming around to me being obv-town Hebi?

Obvtown, no, town-lean sure. Wanna dance? You're probably more active than anyone else left.

Hmmm interesting proposal, but I would be afraid this would default us to be killed nearly for certain in the intermission.

lol

[A2]

I just find it hilarious you think you are going to die at intermission if you pair up with Hebi.
That is all.

[A2]

Maxous why do you TR Keyen?
I don't get it
is there something I'm missing here?

[A2]

Do you promise to be an active partner, or will you be complacent?

Active. Hoods are where I twitter post.

I think it's disgusting people equate the two though. It's site meta it seems, or what it's devolved into. It's cancerous and one of the reasons I've been trying to deliberately pace my posts and place an emphasis on quality over quantity.

Okay look man
I feel ya
and I sympathize
It's like
the reason why I made this alt.
To attempt to provide quality over quanity

But my voice just gets drowned if I don't attempt to keep up so I just post every here and there.

I respect this tho.
I respect you a lot for this.

[A2]

Maxous why do you TR Keyen?
I don't get it
is there something I'm missing here?

Can you TL;DR for me why he's scum.
Because I don't see scum motivation in anything he's doing.
He knows he's been the favourite to get cut for a while now and I've seen no panic or desperation from him to get a partner.
If he's scum, it's a hell of a bluff

1383

a lot of my concerns are is that he's really unnatural.
The progression on me is unnatural.
The way he's pushing me is unnatural.

Those are just like my major concerns right now.

[A2]

reading

[A2]

keyenpeydee, who was

Mafia

Gentleman

, has

left

in

pre-dance

.

Vecna, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

pre-dance

.

gigabyteTroubadour, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

pre-dance

.

SEE
I WAS FUCKING RIGHT
AND APARENTLY KEYEN WAS "OBVTOWN"

--

VOTE: Firebringer

GBT read was cancer
kept indirectly defending Keyendepee
scumreads in general have been terrible
him freaking out when he got townread for dumb reasons is something I've seen from scum him before and can't recall him doing it as town

its ok first thing LLD did in thread was confess that she has been hard townreading me the entire game. she's too pocketed for you guys to stand a chance. gg town.

I will gladly sheep this because I agree with this 100%

--

If you don't think there's scum in A2 and Cabd the only joke here is you~ Plus you're voting town so.

If you don't think there's scum in A2 and Cabd the only joke here is you~ Plus you're voting town so.

Why is there scum in A2 and Cabd? Which one would you guess to be scum?

A2

So key V A2 was scum v scum?

Yes? Why ask this if I sr them I clearly think it was scumvscum >_>

Be somewhat reasonable here Maria, because keep going at it, and I'll probably just push you later, because A. You remind me of scum!Persivul in Withc Trials whom just did not want to ever want to townread me because he thought I was lynchable. and B. This honestly just feels like your tunnel is fabricated and that you're just refusing to evaluate to push an agenda.
VOTE: Firebringer

[A2]

Oh yeah
why is MariaR townreading Firebringer?

[A2]

Oh yeah
why is MariaR townreading Firebringer?

She isn't?

I thought I read 1691 as Maria telling RC that she townreads you?

[A2]

That's not what OMGUS is.
Pure OMGUS is this exact interaction

VOTE: Siblings

Reasons

VOTE: Pine
I am no longer okay with what you are doing.
-Ali

OMGUS now is just a buzzword used to confbias your scumreads.
It has no meaning.

Address my concerns instead of hiding behind buzzwords please.

[A2]

idc about that first point tbh I'd be happy to drop it.
it's moreso I think your tunnel is fabricated.

Because right now you don't look like you're interesting in solving the game.
If you were, you would look at Keyen's iso and attempt to use that to help solve the game.
And if you were, you could probably explain why Keyen v Me is a SvS.

[A2]

Also, the way that A2 jumped on your Firebringer push was really sketchy, Radiant.

You say that
but this is a push I would have started on my own for sure.


How about this
can you see Fire hard defending Keyen like that coming from a scumbuddy?
Because I certainly can.

[A2]

Ali if they vote you just walk out and tell them to lynch fire.

And then who is going to lynch Fire?
It's not like anyone is going to listen to us ya know?

[A2]

A2 has been antagonistic all game for no real reason

I wrote a whole wall about how I hate this game.
I deleted it.

[A2]

Lol your votes have 0 merit.
Maria's "merit" is fabricated bullshit.

[A2]

Dunnstral
is that your only concern?

[A2]

Whenever I think if mafia
I just feel
absolutely disgusted.

[A2]

Like
I have reads
but no
I'm scum
therefore my reads are bullshit.


I just want someone to just fucking listen to me when I step my foot forward but it just seems like nobody cares.

[A2]

Like
I feel like here
no one is going to be able to step foward and just lead
and I want to do that
because I know I can do it well
and I can lynch all of the scums

but it just seems like
no one cares
or would follow me
they rather me die
because apparently I'm scum.

[A2]

I can't hide either
I can't lynch scum when I just hide and want to lurk for just being shitted on for the whole game.


pedit: I'm voting Fire Dunnstral.

[A2]

It's because you seem hostile, not because you're scum

I hate mafia.
It has nothing to do with you.
I am sorry.



pedit: Low effort wasn't really my points on Keyen.
Low effort isn't even a scumtell to begin with.
Like
tbh I don't think anyone even considered or read my case on Keyen.
I just don't think
anyone cares.

[A2]

Hebi it wasn't low effort
it was unnatural.

[A2]

Dunn have you seen scum fire?
What about this fire makes you think this is town!Fire.

[A2]

Dunn have you seen scum fire?
What about this fire makes you think this is town!Fire.

You have never played with scum fire sooooooooo

My first game with you was when you were scum.

[A2]

Maybe I should just cool off
get some sleep

sleep always makes me feel
some what less worse
about myself.

[A2]

A2 you're alright though you insinuating I held a grudge wasn't cool.

/me hugs
sorry.

[A2]

VOTE: Firebringer

WE. ARE. LYNCHING. FIRE. BRINGER. DEAD. FIRE. BRINGERS. WILL. MAKE. MONACA. HAPPY. I. AM. ANGRY. RAWR.

-insert Monaca Towa gif but on iPad atm-

[A2]

Not a Monaca Towa gif but this works.

[A2]

Your Keyen defense was still fucking garbage
like basicly you said they were town and the most unnatural way ever.
You didn't even give any reasons I believe.

[A2]

Yeah my case is complete bullshit
good one.

[A2]

I think it's WIFOM so I'm really not looking too much into it.

[A2]

Need content and would like to hear from Priscilla

Would much rather vote Firebringer.

[A2]

You can also still be scum.

[A2]

I think I said key was playing exactly as how I played with him as Town sooo, he wrong?

Okay what about his play was exactly like his townplay?

[A2]

If she flips Town, I'm taking a long, hard look at some of the other people in this thread.

Like whom?

Also how did your chat with Priscilla go?

[A2]

Hebi I think you not dieing is WIFOM to attempt to build up paranoia against Dan to get a wagon started on them.

[A2]

Dunn I don't know the answers you seek
sorry

[A2]

Oh look I learned another useless buzzword I will probably never use.

[A2]

So vote Fire and Shiro.

[A2]

Nothing about a2 vs key made it look like it can't be scum vs scum what was so ground breaking that made you think otherwise

Nothing about this post is natural to me.

[A2]

Firebringer can die first :3

[A2]

It is 3am and I am trying to post mobile in already salty about the deadline a2 reads are bad af they basically think I'm bussing shiro when the ic wants me dead
I do what natraul you're looking for lol

lol so what if the IC wants you dead.
It's like what, only her voting you?

[A2]

Go ahead and hate me Maria
I'm town here.

[A2]

YOU

LITTERALLY

JUST

SAID

THAT

YOU

WOULD

HATE

ME

IF

I'M

TOWN

I

AM

TOWN

[A2]

I AM FLIPPING MY SHIT NOW

CABD IS BEING JUST FUCKING USELESS
I MAY AS WELL JUST LEAVE IF HE'S GOING TO JUST NOT DO THINGS

MARIA IS SCUMREADING ME FOR NO FUCKING REASON

NO ONE WANTS TO LYNCH SCUMFUCK FIRE

UGGGGGGGGGH

[A2]

Well Dunnstral

maybe I wouldn't be freaking out
IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING FUCKING DONE.

[A2]

A2 I thought I was scum xD

You're a Night Kill Immune Miller Vigi
Fuck man
I don't even know anymore.
I just want to get something fucking done.

[A2]

I think I just need a hug

[A2]

rude

[A2]

Thanks Shiro
you're the best

[A2]

Dan I want Cabd to talk to me D:

[A2]

Atleast vote Shiro and Firebringer?

[A2]

yaaaaaaaay cabd voted Fire!

[A2]

Bye bye.
It was fun.
Don't come back.

[A2]

VOTE: Maria
Great now let's go get the other one.

[A2]

What made you think all 3 scum are in the gentleman?

[A2]

Dan I kinda want an answer to my question?

Like
I feel like your recent posts are worrying me.
Like I'm starting to question if your Dunn push is even natural at this point.

Can you show me the stuff that pointed you to scum!Dunn?

[A2]

UNVOTE:

[A2]

Thank you Dan I'll look through it now.

[A2]

957 - Okay, here I kinda get the feeling this post is just attempting to spin a narative, idunno it just feels very unnatural to me.
1563 - Can you re-explain this to me, I kinda don't really get what you're saying here.
1657 - This is actually a really decent point.
1901 - I don't understand how this is scummy?

[A2]

UGGGGGGH okay this is difficult.

[A2]

Okay

Where the fuck is Priscila and Assemblerowts
I want to talk with them

I want to talk with Dan as well.

[A2]

Also
if I could feel good about ActionDan I'll leave.
Right now I just
don't.


Dan, I want you to talk to me about a few things like why you're willing to defend me so much
kinda thinking about it now it bugs me.
And what about the thoughtless, reasonless votes you thought came from scum? Because judging from flips they obviously didn't.

[A2]

Also
I actually want Assemble to give me something to work with here because he has done fuck all nothing and I want him to fucking do something.

[A2]

I'ma let Cabd hash out his concerns with Hebi.

Dan, I'm just wondering what was Firebringer's stance on MBC?

[A2]

Actually I can read hold on.

[A2]

Okay Dan, I skimmed a bit of Fire's ISO and ctrl + F "Mint"

Fire townread Mint.

[A2]

Trying to think what this means


But honestly
I think I need to talk and sort with Assemble the most atm.

[A2]

honestly
I feel like Keyen just OMGUS'd whomever scumread him + cabd.

[A2]

I feel like we should atleast get a chance to see what content your partner comes up with.

[A2]

@FakeGod can Assemblerotws be prodded?

[A2]

Or it could be she thought you were just trolling. It would be way too early for you to troll.

Cabd does bully me all of the time <_<

--

If Hebi and Dan are down with that plan, (And we're willing to lose if dan is scum) we can do this:

Either you and I walk. If the game isn't over; the remaining one instavotes themself. Hebiu and dan hammer.

I am okay with this but I want to get reads first.


--

The game can legit end right now with an assured town win if you and I are both sure of dan-town.

I scum read Dan.

Why does it feel like you're just trying to keep your options open at this point?
I mean
thats what you have to do if you're scum here.
Tho um
I sorta have an idea I thought about while making this catchup post.
I'll cover it in my next post.

--

I don't like Dan's lack of response to his 100% scum read flipping town. Also, Mint said he would refuse to dance if he had to partner with one of Key or Dan, which is weak reasoning but it is still weird.

What don't you like about it? What abouts this wierds you out atm? Can you open up to me so I can understand your thought process?

--

OK I am going to come back tomorrow and reread and solve this properly. I do not have time now. I think that A2 is scum but Radiant town read her. More important I think is to solve in assemble/dan.

Agreed. What I want most right now is for Assemble to make a post. You doing this will help me sort you better right now because Idunno if I feel good about you

--

I don't think I'd ever town read you and your flaker more than Dan so at this point we are just watching the clock tick down. The me and A2 pair cannot be left alive at endgame.

If A2 is not scum then I will put effort into the game. If we lose I would prefer to lose without having done any effort all game. I will almost always walk out than lynch Dan though, just because I think assemble to win as scum like this would be disgusting, if Dan would win as scum then it's just meh, whatever, he was scummy but he at least put effort in so I do not mind that much.

This kinda pings me here.
Let's say I walk out now and Pris is scum (Note: I don't plan on walking out until atleast asemble posts and I can get reads)
I mean
at that point they're basicly put into a really uncomfortable position where they have to make atleast some kind of move here.
Otherwise they get cornered and they lose.
Regardless, they have to try.

[A2]

VOTE: Cabd-A2
I feel like the way we approach the next day is if we somehow manage to not win here, instead of walking out we just vote and force whoever IS scum to come out in the open.
I feel like if this is done through lynching instead of just walking out we're force who IS scum to in fact reveal themselves making the process faster.

[A2]

Uhhhhhh wtf

[A2]

I don't buy he's even attempting to sort me or anyone he said he would sort.

[A2]

He didn't even produce any content.
Just like
"HEY, LETS VOTE FOR THE PLAN WHERE WE BASCILY PLAY MAFIA NORMALLY WITHOUT LEAVING THE DANCE TO GET DATA."

I mean
I don't know what to even fucking make of this?
Did I just force scum to do something extremely stupid?

[A2]

VOTE: Assemble

[A2]

"Hi, my name is Assemblerotws, I'm going to look closer at people if Shiro Flips town"
>Shiro Flips town but Firebringer flips scum
>MariaR + Dunnfucko leave the dance
"Hi my name is Assemblerotws, what's effort? Did I say I would look at people? LOL XD Let's just take the easy way out."

[A2]

Basicly at this point.
Here is where I'm at, because if it's not Assembles here is what I think of Cabd and ActionDan

Tbh one of the main reasons why I was TRing Cabd was because I don't felt like Keyen didn't want me to pair up with him and that made our pair town
But thinking about it more makes me think if he took that stance just to attempt to distance himself from Cabd.
Which in that case if I think this is more likely what is going on I'll just selfvote or leave

But then there's also ActionDan
Who just fucking hardbussed Fire while going for mostly Dunnstral.
The play actually makes a ton of sense if you think about it.

ActionDan FoSes Fire for most of the game but doesn't vote him but goes for Dunnstral instead while Fire takes stances against him the whole game, basicly setting up a bunch of false dichotomies that they can't be paired together.

[A2]

Right now it's just deciding what I care about more

[A2]

Dan also talks to me as if he's trying to pocket me

[A2]

At the very least; neither of us should walk until we are 100% sure. I'd like at least 24 hours to data mine after a potential T-T flip; should it come to it.

Yeah this is NY stance as well. I would like to figure out what is going on if it comes to it

[A2]

My not NY fuck mobile

[A2]

if I was scum I wouldn't even let myself win via clock I would just leave

[A2]

[A2]

I thought I said leaving right away wasn't a good idea ;~;

[A2]

So

It has come to this.

[A2]

Okay I'm here. Reading up

[A2]

I'm not going to like
"Case" Dan
I'm not going to turn everything he says into a scumpost.
When I think I figured out what happened I will say my thoughts and act accordingly.
Right now that means look at Cabd and Dan's ISOs and look at Flipped Scum and see what I find.

[A2]

As for Cabd's ISO
I want him to case Dan.
I feel like he's been playing a super low effort game
Also right now I don't like the fact that he's making me and Dan go at each others throats while he just sits and watches. He should be treating this as LyLo too ya know, but instead he's making us do all the work for him.
Like in 1050 upon re-reading I feel like what Cabd could be doing here is he could just be trying to get me to not talk about his scumbuddies (I've announced SRs on Fire and Keyen at this point)

As his relation to Keyen, I'm dropping the "Scum!Keyen didn't want me to dance with town!Cabd point." I think it's just in attempt to distance himself from Cabd.

Doing Dan Now.

[A2]

Okay my concerns are right now Dan bussed.
I don't feel like Fire targetting Dan was a coincidence. I feel like it was planned mostly in attempt to distance.
I feel like Fire knew was getting bussed and decided to play along with the guy who was bussing him in attempt to distance.
I felt like Fire was doing his part to make himself getting bussed look as good as he possibly can for his partner.
I feel like Dan's push on Dunn wasn't natural, Like for example his last point in 2268 kinda is just suboptimal play coming from town and somehow Dan spins that to be scummy.

[A2]

Okay Cabd.
You're putting effort into this game now.

[A2]

I can wait~

[A2]

I know I'm town and the game has basically come down to which of Hebi or I walk. We can do it the lynching way too but you know, same diff.

[A2]

I'm here
I'm responding to Dan atm.

[A2]

1) He seemed like he cared about the game there, like he was making an attempt to scumhunt. Here his scumhunting is just...Absent.
2) I was starting to forget why I scumread Dunnstral, so I went for Firebringer instead and I wanted to help Cowbells push that since it was a read we both agreed on. Maria was one I got from interactions during the First Dance but even then pushing Firebringer was a priority for me since I though that had more chances of flipping scum due to Associatives.
3) Maria was just saying "Keyen v A2 could be a SvS" without looking at flips. Dunnstral was saying "A2 is being extremely hostile and it bothers me." Maria blantantly did not care about Flips, Dunnstral just concerned that I was hostile and wanted to figure out if it was AI or not.
4) Honestly it's mostly just judging by gamestate and how it went down. Ever hear of the bussing method called Divide and Conquer? A group of scumbuddies scumreads the other and vice versa. I'm saying this is what happened here in attempt to open up a bunch of false dichotomies. I'm saying the way Fire approached it made it seem like this is what was going on. I'm saying instead of going for Maria/Dunn, Fire was going down and you decided to hop on for cred.


There you go Dan.

[A2]

I am so
so
so
so tempted to just hammertest Cabd.

[A2]

Like
it just looks so much like Cabd is just waiting for one of us to make a move

[A2]

See if you hammer Dan or not.

[A2]

Like
uggggggh
Can you actually sort us?

[A2]

No
I don't.
I feel like you're waiting for one of us to make some kind of fucking move before you take action.

[A2]

You made the right choice :3

[A2]

I'm not trolling you.
I don't have the energy to do that when I'm litterally trying to make sure I get an app in for Community College

[A2]

Dan's town imo

[A2]

Your gambit actually won the game.
I actually thought you thought I hardbussed when you asked in hood Cabd so I took you seriously XD

[A2]

I really wanted this win

[A2]

Yeah Hebi
we thought Maxous and P_A were just a lot more dangerous then you two when Dan had 0 Charisma and tbh you weren't much of a threat Hebi.

[A2]

Nah not really :3

[A2]

For me it's like
there's always this last stretch of endgame where it's like
"It's either I win it or I don't."
And I just never seem to carry it to the win like ever.

[A2]

And I'm good at scum it's just moments like Final Days where I just don't seem to win it.

pedit: I was riding on the Dan paranoia.

[A2]

I also was attempting to kind ride on the "OH MY GOD CABD ACTUALLY BE TOWN" paranoia to attempt to atleast get TRs on me.

[A2]

Yeah Dan I like bussing
tbh I kinda wish I had someone that wasn't Keyen as a partner
with that I was just had to be like "I want to bus this ASAP and attempt to get cred for it instead of waiting."

[A2]

Like I'm flipfloppy about Bussing.
Sometimes I do it but sometimes I don't but I definitely know how to do it.

[A2]

I can't leave when I'm the only person on my scumteam that can potentially carry.

[A2]

Even then
okay I'm town, but what about Cabd?
does he read as town?

[A2]

No
he doesn't.

[A2]

OH I GET IT
I thought I actually did signal the leave.

[A2]

Oh well.

[A2]

Atleast I had Cabd pocketted for majority of the game!

[A2]

hehehe

Yeah I like Nightless


ALSO YES
I CAN SIGN-UP FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE CLASSES
MY LIFE ISN'T COMPLETELY IN THE GUTTER YET

[A2]

The what now.