Midsummer Night's Revelry - [Game Over]

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Good day to you all.

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leaving the dance too early rather than see who hammers them

That was still a good shout imo.

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Sorry lady Giga, turns out I'm taken...............................

Stay away from rc

Why not RC?

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whoever winds up pairing with me shouldnt expect me to use the hood at all.

Looks like I dodged a bullet actually

Agreed there.
Everyone should be using the hoods to either sort your partner or to sort others.

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whoever winds up pairing with me shouldnt expect me to use the hood at all.

Looks like I dodged a bullet actually

Don't worry, I wouldn't pair you with like GT, RC or LLD.

Dunn is already with Maria.

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Wasn't that a fake vote? Maria said she wasn't accepting any proposals till end of day in the same post.

No that was Giga being a spanner.
And previously once accepted you can't change.

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It happened before as well. It doesn't mean much.

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I feel like I know who mint berry crunch is. Probably because they're using the same avatar, though It feels like they're trying to play different on this account

Also I won't snitch

I'm not a hidden alt. But yes I am using this account to play differently.

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Well I'm okay with hebi picking the pair's after a feel for the game.

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Dunn and me can read each other if we get time together so it's time for Maria Dunn hood part 2

Any impressions on Dunn so far?

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I think it's less important to force pairings and more important to force who's partnerless at the end of this

Wouldn't forcing the pair's also force who's partnerless?
It's also completely town influenced this way.

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@Vecna: I would surprised if scum paired together, I don't see the benefit.

I don't think this has happened as of yet, right?
That's one benefit of letting hebi choose is that Scum won't get the say and prevent this.

Sadly though, it looks like most people are against the idea.

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Id totally go for the balsy play and pair with another scum, if I was scum.

Fooling towns in hoods is so 2016

It's not so much you're fooling town but only limiting your chances of winning as Scum.

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And you seem to be ignoring all of the active girls agreeing with it so far, and are being negative for the sake of it.

Obviously that approach you mention hasn't worked, town hasn't won. Let's try something new.

Exactly this.
Lets just see what the other Lady's say first, and if all Lady's agree to it, what's the harm in attempting it?

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Trying to control the pairings isn't gonna be helpful. It lets scum hide too much because they can't be held to account.
I'm vetoing this.

i don't really see what scum have to be held accountable to here - i think everyone in this table is more than capable of coming up with a narrative for why they want to pair up with whoever as scum that would make some degree of sense

what are you expecting to happen here?

Not necessarily.
Particularly if the person(s) they want happens to already be taken and they have to adjust.

I don't understand this argument?

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In order for this to work, we need 2 girls willing to not pair up.

Do you mean not pair up full stop?
What happens then?

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5 people die, we go straight to intermission, a pair gets killed, we go to dance with 10 people.

Okay, I can offer to not pair.
But what benefit do we have going into a dance with 10?

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It's not about dance with 10 but the fact that the mafia have to kill before a single dance, it puts them in an awkward position.

Also, this will get mafia to panic, and hopefully make bad pairings for them, as they try to pair off quickly.

Okay I can not accept offers if this is a plan we are doing.

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I don't care for min/max strategy for town.

If I was scum, I would no kill almost 80% of time because it feeds paranoia into any possible strong town pairs.
It would also amuse me, and 90% of why I play is for amusement 10% is for puzzle

That's great and all, but saying what you would personally do as scum won't help town.

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Also is that you vedithV

Yeah.

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How you doing man? Seems like I haven't talked to you in forever?

Yeah I'm good, how about you?
Haven't seen you in games (alive at least) that I've been in for a while.

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I took a small hiatus.
How's work?

Sometimes gets busy, other than that easy sailing
Last time we spoke properly you were moving, all settled?

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Folks, we're not flooding the game thread with this shit. If it's non-game relevant, like catching up with a friend, happy for you, but take it to PMs or IMs or something.

Fair enough. I won't flood it here.

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So why you so down for not dancing with anyone?
Do you have two left feet?

It's only if it's in benefit of town.
If there is a town read person then I would.

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Like why would you volunteer to not pair if you're town

Because the plan sounds acceptable to me.

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If there's scum in Maria/Dunn I will hedge my bet on Maria just to be safe.

I actually think it's Dunnstral, but the best part about this is we

don't need to hedge

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They've already both agreed to dance with each other on the first page, which means we can lynch either one and they'll both die, which is a-ok with me.

That's only if either are scum. I don't see any scum tells from them yet.

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Don't dance with Giga.
She is scum

I think Giga is town

I'm getting this too.

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Vedith u feel like ur too in agreement with others. I am not feeling ur being you.

I'm open to suggestions. I've already said that if all that's left is town reads I won't do it.

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This is going to be a game and a half...

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I don't see Dunn as scum.

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Literally, the person said "I think you are scum" and complained about me trying to kill myself on RC.

THAT IS A COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. THIS PERSON KNOWS I AM TOWN.

Okay, but I'm not convinced by that.
If RC flips scum then maybe more so, but I don't think RC is scum either.

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Although I agree with Mint Berry being scummy

Your reasoning for me being scum is extremely weak though.
Because I said I would follow a plan if it was at benefit.

I highly request this pair is not alive by the second dance phase

This has to be followed imo.
If they are SvS then they will find reasons to accept each other as town to not walk off. Given the attitude both gave, they will not see each other as town.
If they have paired as scum, then I think it's a gambit terrible done.

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why would I want to automatically walk out before I can try to influence the lynch?
if you were lovers with mod confirmed scum would you want to be lynched immediately or would you want the pair of you to be lynched when you'd contributed to the game?

I'm just saying. If it gets to day 2, and you are both there saying you changed your minds, then you need to be voted off.

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I wish I had more to add to this game but nothing pops out that makes me want to comment so I'll just...sit here zzzz

Who do you think shouldn't be taken to the dance?

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I'm dancing 1 but if I had to pick another guy I'd say cabd atm

That's funny. I'm not seeing Dunn or Cabd as scum motivated right now.
Care to go into more detail?

But can we do Dunnstral first?

People need to stop just saying to just go for someone. What's your reasons?

Dunnstral is still the scummiest scum who scummed this game.

This is turning into a poor pattern or lets just all follow a read that doesn't exist right now.

Out of the remaining gentlemen, this is my view on it.

keyenpeydee - I really don't like this slot. I feel that they just want to get this phase out of the way, and join for a dance. No sorting of players, or showing it at least. This is who I'd leave out for the dance.

Priscila - I'm not sure what to think here. I didn't think town defending me against LLD, and I don't feel there was a need to at this point. It felt like either premature white knighting or just using NAI arguments to make a dig at LLD. I'll be open to see what else I get from this slot.

Cabd - I think has been pretty logical in waiting to see on joining with pengiun or not. I didn't see it as much as askin town for permission but more disappointment from being in a situation where town don't want pengiun and cabd joined up. This slot looks to be heading to the dance regardless, but as they aren't paired up yet, I added them here.

Maxous - I like the posting, but looks to be aiming more for survivability with choosing who to go with. Even considered myself, but I don't recall Maxous mentioning me before hand.

Vecna - Gut tells me town. I think Venca is on the same wave length here concerning RC and LLD. I just worry that Venca might focus a little too much here than on the rest of the game.

ActionDan - I don't really have enough to go by. A lot of people think town but I haven't seen it yet.

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I have no time to post today sadly. I'll catch up after work.

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Maria is scum.
Dunnstral is town.

Calling that shit now.
I think u guys are all wrong on dunn.

I'm getting town on both.
I also dislike this post. From this pre dance it's felt a lot like people are trying to make Dunn and Maria distrust each other. It feels Scum influenced, and that's what I would expect if town/town accepted straight away.
Considering even more that they can read each to a degree, trying to get them to Scum read each other out of being paranoid seems to be happening.

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I am somewhat done with move? Everything is in new place but nothing really unpacked

Just take stuff out the box as you need it.

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honestly I'm not but me getting called scum by everyone and everyone trying to leave my townreads out of the dance makes me very uninterested in trying to sort people.

What's your full reads?
Any change on LLD?

i want to dance with all three of my options kms

This feels forced.
You're not going to be discussing in the PT. Who do you town read the most of the 3 or trust to read?

And to confirm. I'd only pair with Venca given the option of Venca and Key.

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I will start to ignore Alisae now because he's a fucking scum

Wouldn't you want to engage your Scum reads?

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Who's left to pair?

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mint are you ok pairing with keyen?

i'm absolutely positive he's flipping town here and if you need to talk to me about that read i'm all ears

I don't read the slot as town. Care to explain it to Me?

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If my choice is Dan or Key, I'm not dancing.

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If my choice is Dan or Key, I'm not dancing.

Then don't. It could benefit town.

That's what I'm thinking.
It takes 3 more doubtful slots out and I think there's a very strong chance of either 1 of you being Scum.

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I accept Priscila's invitation