Newbie 1816 (Game Over)

[Yooh]

Hello there. Thanks for adding me to the game.

Please be aware that English is my second language and I still learn it, so it might be a little bit crappy. But, please address any questions or anything to me because I don't want to use this as an excuses to not read or reply any of posts that is addressed to me.

Good luck, have fun.

VOTE: SIV36

Llamafluff

Is your random vote related to the quote above?

Not a serious vote, just some light encouragement to post. You can tell because I explicitly said we shouldn't try to lynch anyone yet.
Even random voting gives us some information or at least the possibility of information. Lurking gives us the minimum possible information so Bhoysterous is automatically the most suspicious to me even if Jaereed is in virtually the same position. Again though, we really don't have anything to go off at this point.

I think you can check when is the last login of certain person in their profile. Have you thought about it before? His last login is 8 August, tho.

Also, with everyone being rather humble and modest in their posts, Lllama seems to stand out like a knight in shiny armour. At this point I only hope this knight sits under the right coat of arms.

I think it is because his role as IC, regardless of his alignment. But, I'm not sure if this is should be role indicative or not, because his approach is very ...townie? I don't know how scum IC would approach to town or to their partner, but I'm pretty sure LlamaFluff will say that is depends on personality.

Vote I4F

Why did you vote In4Fun?

Vote : clockworkgirl

Let's be friend, JaeReed.

[Yooh]

Prod received.

@Yooh: I was not aware of that. Thanks for letting me know and welcome to the game. Is your vote for me random or do you consider me to have behaved scummily and if so, what specifically?

Semiserious. You prefer to push content from someone who haven't post rather than someone who have posted is a little bit strange. If you voted to someone actively posting, you would get their reaction faster.

I do find clockworkgirl scummy. Instead of recognizing that she might have not been completely coherent she is defending her every action which I don't like in this case.

Why are you not voting her? There is a reserved seat for you in this wagon.

I'm suspicious of her because of her reasoning to vote me. I guess to her, I'm scummy because I changed my mind. Iirc, I seen someone from another game make the same argument towards me and that person was a mafia. To me, it's a little bit of a far-reach.

What is the reason you hold your vote? Maybe because you want to watch and see her reasoning first?

I agree with this, clockwork seems scummy due to the fact she is overly defensive, although this is still a hunch being it so early in the game. (I mentioned that I though she was scummy before btw)

Why is being defensive scummy?

Can I ask why you said this? At the specific moment you did, JaeReed had only made 2 very short, insignificant posts.

It is just me trying to buddying Jaereed for no reason. I'm expecting Jaereed's reaction to come along, but they (Jaereed's pronoun is they?) ignored it.

[Yooh]

Yes. It was a silly random vote from when the game started. UNVOTE:

Why are you unvoting? I don't see anything wrong with parking your vote at Eclipsed.

What did you feel was very townie about Llama's approach?
Why did you scumread clockworkgirl at this point?

Basically, how he explained the whole things we need to do and consider. He took one of our statement and he informed us what is his opinion or theory. He also explained it step by step like saying "you should catch scum like this" or "here is better method". But again, I don't know if it is because his IC role or not.

No other reason, but I don't have any reason to unvote. Why would I unvote when she is at L-3?

Are you normally a passive player?

How did he play passively? I think LlamaFluff is actively scumhunting.

Llama says "Siv, not all people who are dealt the mafia role are going to be strange with RVS". My shoulders slumped, and I expressed to myself that I better let Llama know that he's right and I'm not really going to go gung-ho on tuber because I think all mafia-roled players will always be strange like tuber during RVS. So I told Llama I agree, which I guess people around here become very concerned about. *shrugs*

Hol' up, I'm a little bit slow. So basically, you agreed to avoid disputation? Please don't say "yes, you are right" in apathy behaviour.

I don't see why is that scummy or even a little wrong. Don't we want content from anyone, equally?

Yes, we want it, but faster is always better. Why would you push a content from someone who post once every 2 day rather than someone who post 10 times every day, especially in RVS? The quality of post is also matter, though.

Thor, House, AI: what is reference, what is game terminology? A bit hard to understand this post and it may be important.

I think Thor is a person. I don't know about House, but I think a person also. AI is allignment indicative. My friend said AI or NAI is for cool kid terms.

@Yooh, would you like to say something about it? Because it's one thing that I don't understand, but you say it's for no reason, it's different.

I do that because she is the only one I know among others. No particularly important reason. Why is it concerned you a lot?

[Yooh]

SIV36 I haven't seen anything that's changed my mind but I've not seen anything to increase my suspicions either. He's still the player I consider scummiest.

Can you tell me your opinion about Siv's #51 post?

In4Funs reasoning seems flawed to me which is making me lean towards scum

Why can't town make a flawed reasoning? Which part of his reason make him scummy for you?

I think if you don't start applying pressure on someone who posts rarely in the beginning, they won't pick up the speed in time and be less of a help if he can't get up to speed when we really need them, in the later game or as soon as late Day 1.

Well, that could be right. But I think that person naturally will try to catch up everything we left behind regardless his alignment or he would left behind and replaced.

@Yooh: do all people who play as mafia always become uncomfortable, odd, and twitchy during RVS?
@Yooh: Does Llamafluff (the IC) lie about these things?
@Yooh: Please tell me why agreeing with Llamafluff is scummy, because I'm a little bit slow.

1. No.
2. Preference things is a personal preference.
3. I didn't say that is scummy. Why would you think that? I want your confirmation because you said this

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better let Llama know that he's right and I'm not really going to go gung-ho on tuber because I think all mafia-roled players will always be strange like tuber during RVS

My interpretation is you don't want to have disputation with Tuber nor Llama, so you agreed with Llama's preference while you are still holding your belief that mafia always be strange during RVS. I am not saying you disagree with Llama, but you don't want further discussion about this, yet you still think Tuber is mostly mafia because the same reason you hold, so you agreed with it. That is my interpretation.

I'm telling you that I'm a little bit slow because I might interpret it wrong and I need to know if my interpretation is right or not before questioning further. What are you trying to achieve by mimicking me?

Actually, I was being a dick about that. I'm just saying that to me it was coming from a look-at-me-I'm-so-town intention. But mafia doesn't just outright say LAMIST, they say something indirectly, but obviously suggesting it, like that they want lots of information quickly.

Llama did something at that post. Voting and pushing In4Fun. Not only suggesting, but I think he wanted us to use him as example.

[Yooh]

Somehow i don't remember what kind of interaction i have at here

It is quiet alarming me that Tuberkulos and Eclipsed said clockwork is scummy because defensive yet didn't vote her. Somehow I find In4Fun exaggerated a bit. Maybe over-analyzing, but not sure. I don't think I will get answer for all of this.

I don't find why SIV could be scum, only his unvote at Eclipsed stand out for me. For me, his jump around because he is getting into this game to deep while we're not as active as him.

Does the interactions between JaeReed and Clockworkgirl ping other people's scum-detectors?

Not for me. JaeReed can go as town "why you use me/her instead other?" also

at the moment, i think siv seems pretty town as well. i'm not seeing what others are seeing in either clockwork or siv. i think it's pretty likely the scum team lies outside of these two, but i'm not 100% on that yet. for day 1, though, i'd personally like to focus elsewhere. siv at the very least has been providing content, so we'll have a lot of useful information whether he flips town or scum. also, generally, imo willingness to change your mind in town is scary to scum, especially in lylo. it's useful for scum to keep around players who are more stubborn and set in their erroneous reads

This is scary imo. You're like saying "I'm gonna keep both of them to LyLo", but I think it is too far from there. I might be too oversee you because I read one of your scum game. I don't think scum would do that, tho.

llama's being helpful and producing a lot of content from everyone through asking questions, so i'd like to have him around. but i don't think he's done anything specifically that points to him being town. i think the points other people have made about him trying to lay low while producing a lot of content (ie. not sticking his neck out) are good points. maybe slight scum lean, but i'd rather not lynch a helpful IC day 1, haha

I think that was Jaereed who said Llama plays passively, but you voted her while she made good point. Can you elaborate this? How can Jaereed-scum made a good point? I don't get how Llama trying to lay low while he is giving the most qualified posts.