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I agree that this questioning feels superficial.In post 11, Korts wrote:Hmmm can you elaborate? Am I the perpetrator of this chainsaw defense, or are you justifying your vote with it? And do you mean the PolarBoy or the Tarhalindur version of the chainsaw defense?
1) Putting a serious spin on a jovial RVS vote
2) Obviously he wasn't accusing you of being the perpetrator. How would that even have been possible in this scenario?
3) It's obvious which version he meant. Did this really need to be asked?
Follows up his serious questioning with a jokey-looking vote?
I like this apart from theIn post 15, Jingle wrote:Serious votes time.
VOTE: Korts
Assuming I’m right there, reck is probably town. I don’t see two scum jumping so blatantly for such an obvious piece of bait. I do find Korts’ line of questioning incredibly superficial, to the point where it overshadows recks lack of RVS vote.
You may all begin groveling at my clearly superior ability now. I’ll see you tomorrow.'reck is probably town'bit. I disagree with the general idea that scum wouldn't jump on the same wagon early on; it happens all the timebecauseno-one thinks they would.
In post 17, Korts wrote:Sigh. Jingle, if you're going to play the look-at-me-I'm-scum-but-scum-wouldn't-say-that reaction test game, let people weigh in and allow the situation to develop before you jump in with your grand analysis.
"Superficial" questioning, really? What exactly were you expecting in response? I asked you to confirm that yes, you are claiming a scumtell on yourself, which you did, and now you're shocked that your wagon took off. Pull your head out of yourself, dude.
By the way - if Reck's "probably town," why mention his lack of RVS vote? What does that indicate, exactly?Bolded- this is a good point.
Italics- Your questioning was pointless as I stated above.
Underlined- The fact I could answer this myself means this is probably another pointless question.
In post 19, Aristophanes wrote:I honestly keep going back to Jingle's VT claim and feeling uneasy about it! It just feels wrong. Their play otherwise is alright so far but nothing stellar.
I like Reck and Korts thus far!
Athena, why is getting a game moving towny, and how do you think he is doing so? I don't see as much forward movement as you seem to in their posts.Bolded- It feels wrong, but not enough to make you switch from your RVS vote? What exactly is so wrong with it anyway?
Italics- Why?
Underlined- You don't see forward movement? All the discussion in the game has stemmed from Jingle's opening posts.
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VOTE: Korts- Luca Blight
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It's not a question of what's good or bad, but what is scummy, and superficial questioning is scummy.
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Korts' is more out of place because it was subsequent to his serious questioning.
You asked earlier is it bad to have superficial questioning early on, so I ask you is it bad to have dubious reasoning early on?
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Explain this Ari townread to me.- Luca Blight
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1) I'm not sure what you expected would happen other than a continuation of the RVS jesting. It feels to me like you were deliberately setting up a situation whereby you could vote him for the apparent scumclaim, but then excuse yourself by saying you were just reaction-testing yourself.In post 27, Korts wrote:
1) I don't see why people are hearing a serious tone. Deadpan, maybe. I deliberately took the scumtell claim at face value to increase its potential to generate useful discussion.In post 25, Luca Blight wrote:1) Putting a serious spin on a jovial RVS vote
2) Obviously he wasn't accusing you of being the perpetrator. How would that even have been possible in this scenario?
3) It's obvious which version he meant. Did this really need to be asked?
2) There was no subject included in his two-word justification for the vote. Justifications for votes are usually meant to implicate the target of the vote, and me being the perpetrator would have made as much sense (i.e. zero) as him.
3) Sure, yeah, but I wanted to give him an opportunity to subvert expectations. That whole line of questioning was to get him to explicitly commit to the scum claim.
2) Context is important here. As I said, there is no way, even from an RVS standpoint, that you could be accused of a chainsaw defence there.
3) How would you have responded had he subverted expectations?
It's showing both sides of the coin. Jingle townreads him based on his flawed reasoning that you're probably not partners, but also shows the side of Reck's play he hasn't liked so far. Just because you townread someone, it doesn't mean that read has to be locked down forever and you can't make small reference points to refer back to later on. I think everyone does this to some degree.In post 27, Korts wrote:
Go ahead and answer it, then.In post 25, Luca Blight wrote:In post 17, Korts wrote:By the way - if Reck's "probably town," why mention his lack of RVS vote? What does that indicate, exactly?Underlined- The fact I could answer this myself means this is probably another pointless question.- Luca Blight
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Of course I may be; I wouldn't expect anyone to trust me implicitly based on a post or two, but what particularly makes you want to point this out here?In post 28, Jingle wrote: Also, Luca may be scum.
Why are sheeping this opinion rather than raising it yourself earlier?In post 31, Korts wrote: I do agree with your Luca suspicion.- Luca Blight
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This is my first Geriatric game so I'm certainly adjusting my playstyle to fit in with that. I had a very long break from the site so I'm sure my play will have naturally changed as a result of that too.In post 40, Jingle wrote:
Because I'd like to know one way or another, and I think posting that will make it more likely for your alignment to become apparent sooner than later because of reasons. To answer the related question of why from CoA, or rather, to fail to answer it without ignoring it, I'd rather wait to discuss it for a few more days.In post 34, Luca Blight wrote:Of course I may be; I wouldn't expect anyone to trust me implicitly based on a post or two, but what particularly makes you want to point this out here?
On a mostly unrelated note, I recognize your name, but your gameplay is off from what I have associated with you in my memory. Which would you say is the most likely reason for this? A. A large playstyle change over the last couple of years. B. A conflation of two players in the long time between games. Or C. An intentional subversion of meta/ change of playstyle for this game? It probably doesn't matter much, and I'll get around to the meta work eventually, but I'd appreciate your two cents before I do
What kind of gameplay did you have associated with me, out of interest?- Luca Blight
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You're the one twisting what I said into a reason why you must be scum.
I still don't see why Jingle voicing his opinion should influence whether you share your own. You didn't want to OMGUS me, but then it's suddenly Ok to once someone else has voiced their own suspicion (even though that player happens to be the one you're voting)?
Also, you no longer want to'continue the thread'regarding Jingle, yet you're still sitting on your Jingle vote. What exactly is your read on him right now?- Luca Blight
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I could accuse you right now of discrediting my position and not scumhunting. What you're saying is completely baseless - you have shown nothing that suggests my post was purely set out to discredit you instead of to scumhunt.
I agreed that your questions were superficial. Why is it scummy to reiterate what someone else has said that you agree with? If I tried to claim the opinion for my own perhaps, but to openly agree with something?
It feels like you're reaching for something to scumread me for.- Luca Blight
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I was elaborating on why I believed them to be superficial/pointless.In post 68, Korts wrote:You have conveniently failed to address the biggest indicator: undermining my questions. My reading of everything else comes from that.
Back from V/LA now but still pressed for time. Will catch-up in a bit.- Luca Blight
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