Open 708: Pick Your Poison - Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

When there's something strange in your neighbourhood
who you gonna call

when there's something weird and it don't look good
who you gonna call

[RadiantCowbells]

I ain't fraid of no scums

[RadiantCowbells]

I'M SO HUNGRY I COULD EAT A WHOLE ZEBRA

[RadiantCowbells]

are we fresh out of zebra

[RadiantCowbells]

this is an official (tm) prod on cultofathena you have 24 hours to respond

[RadiantCowbells]

I remember you dying before my first ever scum win, does that count?

[RadiantCowbells]

well you got nightkilled, not mislynched, so that's a plus!

[RadiantCowbells]

I feel fairly sure I know what alignment CoA is but I want her to engage with me so I can be sure.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well that's interesting: what exactly is it that you would expect?

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean. I am not in some special hurry to start generating content: my first priority is clarifying my stance on CoA and she hasn't posted in thread.
I don't think even a cursory analysis of my history as a player suggests that fluffy entrances are scum indicative and I'm not sure how warranted the 'supposedly good player' line is.

[RadiantCowbells]

mozamis is going after me worth dying for because I don't have a problem saying that the game starts after everyone who is trying to lynch me is out of the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Were you aware that this isn't our first game together?

[RadiantCowbells]

Were you aware that this isn't our first game together?

dont think i've played you under your RC alt? I dont know whose alt you are? are you someone i like lol
doesnt really matter since you got a red role pm.

How do you go from supposedly good, implying you know who I am, to not knowing whether I'm an alt or not?

[RadiantCowbells]

And yes we've played together in this game and I opened in much the same way as I did here.

maybe Cabd?
anyway, who gives a shit lol

Okay I'm straight up calling bullshit to your I don't know whether you're an alt or not routine.

VOTE: Mozamis

[RadiantCowbells]

Why are you making this a question of ego unless you already hold the viewpoint that I'm egotistical?

I was pressing in a clear direction in terms of trying to figure out if you were wilfully pushing me for something that you know isn't scum indicative and have already shown my cards in that direction: why would you go from that to making it a question of ego unless you already had a general picture of who I was and thought that I was egotistical as a result?

I think it's far more likely that you're scum who was knowingly pushing me for something they know isn't a tell than that you accidentally accused me of being my least favourite person on the site and called me egotistical.

[RadiantCowbells]

So you didn't know who I was and you just picked the name Cabd out of a hat?

[RadiantCowbells]

And no, you didn't use 'you are an alt' as an excuse. You used oh I'm fluffposting as an excuse. If you claimed to know who I am in any real detail that's a scumclaim and I'm assuming you realized that quickly so you decided your best option was to pretend that you didn't know who I was. Then you made the mistake of trying to antagonize me by calling me Cabd thinking that I would believe it was a coincidence.

I don't care about whether you know who I am but I do care about the fact that you're pushing me for fluffposting and are wilfully ignoring the evidence given that it's not a scumtell.

If you didn't care then you shouldn't have said that I was a cheater.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I could give a fuck whether you know who I am if it weren't for the fact that you clearly do and are pretending not to with clear scum motivation.

[RadiantCowbells]

wow 3 or four fluff posts in a row from a supposedly good player!
go go go
VOTE: radiantscumbells

Do you regularly call random people that you don't know anything about supposedly good and question their fluffposting? Asking for a friend of a friend.

i'm sorry, but in my mind we have nver played together. simple as.
not sure what the scum motivation for any of this is?

It's a lot harder to push me for abject bullshit when you have to admit that you know that it's abject bullshit.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't like being called Cabd and that holds true regardless of my alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm going to talk to you as if you're town because I figure if you're scum you're going to continue to try to push me regardless of what I say and this post won't matter.

I haven't posted anything in terms of a broad readslist because I only have strong reads on a small section of the playerlist and I want to be able to prod people without playing my hand.
I thrive when I'm given time and space and if I have to start lynching everyone who is going to push on me to get that space then I am both capable and willing to do so.
Just going off your experience with me, which you apparently forgot, I went from slanking for a few days to pumping out reads and content on everyone in one big burst, which is a fairly apt summation of my playstyle in general.

Which is all to say that pushing me to rush my timeline isn't going to cause me to give a broad readslist, it's just going to cause me to get pissy and tunnel you to the exclusion of other players who might be better lynches because I haven't had the time and space to decide which of those players might be other lynches. I am not known for failing to do my fair share of work as town but I am known for not reacting well to bad pressure, which this certainly qualifies as.

[RadiantCowbells]

My man rc is probably scum (:

Bullshit and I don't believe that you believe it.

VOTE: Transcend

[RadiantCowbells]

hardclaim town tracker

I'm getting shot anyway and I have no desire to spend my limited time in this game defending myself.

lynch transcend.

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't ask if you voted me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Good luck with that one.

[RadiantCowbells]

That would be hard for me to do given that I am locked into a claim that you have counterclaimed and supposedly should be flipping.

[RadiantCowbells]

Stop trying to pretend that you have any authority, you're done.

[RadiantCowbells]

The blatant scum tracker who you CCed then retracted?

[RadiantCowbells]

if transcend does flip town, we MUST speed lynch Radiant and Klick.

this is an interesting claim

if transcend claimed a non-tracker role, why is it suddenly time to speed lynch me

[RadiantCowbells]

IF TRANSCEND FLIPPED A NON-TRACKER ROLE thank you

[RadiantCowbells]

There's a great wagon who took me giving off as many please fuck off signals as I possibly could as an opportunity to try to sneak a mislynch on me.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I think regardless of your alignment that that was just you trying to get the jump on me if I was in fact fakeclaiming tracker, I don't think you ever had any hope of winning post claim.

My man rc is probably scum (:

This is the problem point when it seemed like I was in a weak position and I was giving off signals that I think you could easily recognize and chose to push on me anyway.
You've seen me enough that if you were worried that I was scum you would have approached it differently here, and if you really haven't then let's drill it in for next game.

[RadiantCowbells]

And that's ignoring how implausible I find the idea of you scumreading me here when the way I dealt with mozamis should basically confirm me as town in any universe.

No i just don't want you to coast on a fake claim is all.

And you act like you're easy to ml as town.

I would be very easy to ML as town if I didn't make sure scum got punished for trying it.

[RadiantCowbells]

CoA why have you vanished from this game since I showed up while posting elsewhere?

[RadiantCowbells]

Hi so f'n behind, I am RadiantCowbells

[RadiantCowbells]

It's part of how I play the game. I don't see it as outside of the game in the sense that you seem to, I see it as a game relevant action the same as posting a case on someone or posting a readslist.
I think being mafia influences people in a way that extends beyond the cases they put out and engaging people in a less serious manner gives a lot of information about people's alignments.
There's also the fact that I as a player usually get scumread when I'm trying to hard push something right away because some people have collective PTSD and I prefer to ease into the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fork, I would rather not be voting ErrantParabola today: how do you feel about Beef/Transcend?

You can also try to sway me on Flubber.

[RadiantCowbells]

okay so i'm going to put out an early, somewhat coherent readslist since I'm sort of removed from the general play due to my claim anyway

i'm town, if you disagree i'll throw hands

CoA probably town
HeWhoSwims probably town
EP probably town

-vaguely- townreading maxous
-vaguely- townreading mozamis actually contrary to my earlier statements
-vaguely- townreading fork

now

Moneybags I do not share the general consensus on, I think that he is actually reasonably likely to be scum
Flubber I just have literally no thoughts on despite close reading

Transcend/Beefster are my two strongest scumreads for different reasons

I have no thoughts on klick/texcat but haven't really closeread them, i should do that

[RadiantCowbells]

oh and btw there's a thing I want to point out which is sort of why I claimed anyway

the correct play mechanically is to run jailkeeper/IC/tracker. 2-shot vig and 1-shot cop are far ahead of the others in power level, though there is some argument to be made for running jailkeeper/vig BUT that would mean that scum didn't run IC which would be stupid so like if I were scum I'd have run jailkeeper/vig/IC but since there's a confirmed tracker if scum thought about what they were doing at all we're looking at tracker/jailkeeper/IC
so most likely there is a jailkeeper in this game and since scum have no PRs I can only know if I was jailkept if I am in fact tracker

which is another way of saying that the jailkeeper, if any, should flip two coins and unless both come up tails you should jail me, and since scum already know whether or not a jailkeeper exists in the setup I'm not giving them any information by hardclaiming my result at the start of tomorrow

it's genius really

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah not much point lynching Transcend today even though he's scummy as hell

jailkeeper is on me, if any, but probably there is not one.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Beefster

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's do it Athena!

[RadiantCowbells]

If there's a big that's not transcend, your way of ccing is to just not shoot tonight.

err no it's to shoot transcend in the fucking face lol

[RadiantCowbells]

If I'm mafia, they'd be a dumbass to shoot me

They'd take a shot for one of my buddies.

If you're mafia we don't know that unless they shoot you.

But since you are apparently the vigilante, everything should be good, right?

JK is on me so Transcend has no excuses.

[RadiantCowbells]

I would not cry over a texcat lynch but I prefer Beefster

[RadiantCowbells]

Rc you strongarm whatever mislynch you want my sir.

mis?

[RadiantCowbells]

You touch CoA I'm policy lynching you tomorrow to prevent you from vigging again.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ehh I take back my willingness to support Texcat lynch I think they might be town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't quite support a Flubber lynch either.
I'm actually considering that Mozamis is super aggressive scum now. It's definitely not my first pick for what scum would do but I don't actually have anything preventing them from being scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Wouldn't go so far. I'm definitely leaning there but there are a lot of people I would pick as town over Moz.

[RadiantCowbells]

I will cite my track record of reading newbies and say that HWS is very probably town, don't think that's where the scums is at.
I'll assume that you're town for now since it's not really something worth thinking about

RC
Transcend
HWS
CoA

are my locktown/trasncend block right now

I think EP could actually be scum, I was very hasty in writing him off as town
Flubber, eh I don't have much enthusiasm for. Would lean him as actually town.
Beefster is icky in a lot of ways, I should make a coherent case there at some point
Mozamis I've seen a lot of town play this way but I think that it's possible that they're hammy scum. Would certainly lynch over a lot of people in the game.
Fork is fork, I would lean him as town but I think I'll get more mileage out of actually talking to him than reading his posts out of context
Maxous based on his reads and the way he's talking is gut town, I think this might actually be a stronger townread later when I've had time to think.
Klick I just don't know
Moneybags I think might be scum, yeha
leaving Texcat who again on review seems more likely than not to be town.

SO of people I don't have a reason not to lynch

Klick, Moneybags, EP, Beefster, Mozamis

[RadiantCowbells]

If Moz is scum he's a mastermind.

It's not hard to be hammy scum like what Mozamis has done this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

@COA/follow-up: I don't have any examples of you sheeping reads because you don't have any actual reads. It's mostly stuff like "I see what you're saying about player X" and "I don't like X from Y" (which is usually after other players have said basically the same thing), but none of this is concrete opinion of "I think X is scum/town"

VOTE: CultOfAthena

This is icky as fuck

[RadiantCowbells]

if I have to pick 2 people to both scums it's beef/ep

[RadiantCowbells]

Honestly? It's more reactionary to other people townreading you, I don't like the fact that they are because I don't think you're that towny, I'm not explicitly scumreading you I just don't townread you.
Same reason I keep bringing Mozamis up, I feel like if they're going to end up being scum they are going to get to endgame very easily because people are writing them off as town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fwiw that felt like a townpost.

[RadiantCowbells]

OKay so I cleaned up my Maxous read and definitely not specifically townreading that, not sure why I was before.

[RadiantCowbells]

Leaning voting Thor here actually, I haven't felt great about him the whole game.

I think Transcend is lying ftr. But we'll know either way 2moro.

What are your reads on the beefcake and magma?

[RadiantCowbells]

that's beefster and EP, not guinea pigs.

[RadiantCowbells]

oh yeah and this is what happens when you don't give me a few days to figure out my reads and instead force me to half bake content, you get reads that fly all over the place while I'm still rereading the game.

I hope you all learned your lesson

[RadiantCowbells]

if it's beefster/EP/Maxous someone is buying me pizza

[RadiantCowbells]

not saying it will be because like i'm in tune to the fact that I'm probably going to feel very different about at least one read in this game tomorrow and those reads will probably be largely betterer btu

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, couldn't he just be a scumfuck?

And EP writes a lot but doesn't say much sounds like it should be a scumread like that is something particularly scummy but you're just like nah b nothing particularly scummy

[RadiantCowbells]

you have permission to vig CoA if she continues to not respond to this game btw it's hurting my feelings regardless of my read on her

[RadiantCowbells]

But you're not thinking about it with Beefster?

And I don't know, 'particularly if my other scum reads are wrong' sounds like an excuse to have a verbally declared scumread on EP while continually looking elsewhere for the wagon that you'd actually support.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes, I am looking into that.

I was your scumread?

[RadiantCowbells]

IN BETWEEN THESE SHEETS WHERE I LAID YOU DOWN I TRIED TO FIND SOME REST
SO I REACH OUT FOR THE SWITCH BUT WHY PRETEND

'CAUSE I CAN'T TURN THE LIGHTS OUT NOW
I'LL SEE YOUR FACE
NO I CAN'T TURN THE LIGHTS OUT NOW
MY HEART WILL BREAK

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah okay like
I've said this a lot but
there is no way in fucking hell that you think that I am scum right now and this isn't even meta dependent I've spewed myself town all over the recent pages of the thread.

VOTE: Beefster

Was already voting but just making a symbolic rejection of beefster's face.

[RadiantCowbells]

lol

okay sweetheart

[RadiantCowbells]

Not moz

i can still lynch you just for the principle of the thing if you're not gonna back me up as town

I'm done I don't wanna play 20 questions I put in my time everyone can back the fuck off

[RadiantCowbells]

this is of course the RadiantCowbells show, where only RadiantCowbells matters

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not even defending myself

if I get shitlynched D1 as PR that's on you guys.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you think that I shouldn't townread you?

[RadiantCowbells]

At the risk of being intentionally vague, you've done several things that I see as far more likely to come from you as town. If I'm wrong then I'll learn from the error but I don't think that I am.
I've hardclaimed PR, my slot is going to be self resolving whether there's a jailkeeper or not and I don't particularly feel like getting into details about how I read you because I don't think it's universally applicable enough to help other people read you and I would like to continue to be able to read you correctly in the future. I understand that makes it hard to read me, but again I don't think that reading me should be your top priority right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think it's universally applicable enough to help other people read you

This should read: I don't think that helping you understand how I'm townreading you would help you improve your scumgame because I don't think other people are looking for what I am.

[RadiantCowbells]

I had read this game before I replaced in but besides that I don't want to help you here.
If you want to talk about other people's alignments I'm all for it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd like to hear more about your scum read on me, RC. A few other players have mentioned stuff but not a lot of specifics. Im aware that I'm not paticularly good at the game but I'd like to get some details.

I have also found him difficult to read but this post in particularly strongly reads to me as coming from town.
Part of it was just the phrasing, just generally feeling pure, and like just idk. It buoys up a lot of nullread.

[RadiantCowbells]

Beef I really don't want you alive if those are your reads regardless of what your alignment is. Call it a policy Lynch if it makes you feel better.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I'd switch to voting EP if I had a reason but the faster I remove your vote from play the better right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry, am I supposed to have the game solved already and be 100% confident in all my reads just because?

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

I'll think about it

[RadiantCowbells]

Confirm or deny that you've been relatively rather quiet since I showed up in the game?

[RadiantCowbells]

Go ahead. I think that level of townread from me was a bit excessive.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: ErrantParabola

I think this is probably the best lynch right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

I decided that I'm not going to bother to dismantle hard scum right now since Transcend is liable to eat the bullet over me and want to just take the free scum lynch.

If you want me to go for higher +ev scum then I need more time =[

err this was me.

and +ev scum should read like carry scum. I don't have a particular bead for who the carry scum are right now, need more time.

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless it's moz, but I don't feel like pursuing that right now

[RadiantCowbells]

but yeah I'm happy taking the freebie on EP knowing that either Transcend is dying, we have two scum (transcend is scum), or scum are willing to give us a mislynch by giving transcend his second shot

[RadiantCowbells]

What do you mean there's no difference? They don't have the same role PM.

Is it possible that one could be scum and another could be town and by switching off the town we could end up lynching scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

See tex might be scum

[RadiantCowbells]

What do you mean there's no difference? They don't have the same role PM.

Is it possible that one could be scum and another could be town and by switching off the town we could end up lynching scum?

What's that first line supposed to mean? You say that like you know one is scum and the other isnt? In which case why are you so sure EP is scum all of a sudden? And now Tex? Why everyone but Beef now?

alright listen the fuck up

[RadiantCowbells]

your fucking face moneybags.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC's switch to EP looks like it might be an attempt at towncred or a fear of my flip. I may have made it a little too damning to throw a vote at me. Oops. Flailed a little too hard.

If you think that if I were scum I would be at all afraid of lynching you then you need to chill the fuck out.

[RadiantCowbells]

Please just fuck off of COA.

[RadiantCowbells]

@RC - I was kind of serious when I asked why you were bothering with that limp run at me though.

Mostly because if I lasted a long time in this game I wanted a note that you stopped posting for this length of time so I could compare it to what was going on in thread at the time.
I am not immediately jumping to the conclusion that you are scum avoiding me for it or my run would be a lot less limp.

[RadiantCowbells]

I daresay that you are aware that if I was scum who wanted to mislynch you I could do a lot better than that.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that I'm entitled to be aggressive when I'm obvtown as about.blank by play, have a role claim that makes me self resolving, and have spent more energy game solving than anyone else in the game

and I'm still having shit pushes made on me. That shouldn't be happening.

[RadiantCowbells]

Where I'm at right now is that if Flubber is scum, several of the people I think might be scum are probably town

I'm going to say that Flubber is town just off of the back of how many people have to be excluded from the scumpool to fit Flubber!scum.

Also I don't like the voters, but

[RadiantCowbells]

And interestingly I said that without compiling a list of people I'm referring to, it's just a gut feeling.

Usually that means it's right.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not in the sense that Flubber's town but that there's a clear dichotomy here because none of the cross pushing feels like bussing

@Tesxx votecount please!

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean EP is still scum but apparently no one's motivated to just take the lynch.

Where do we go from there

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm thinking

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay let's say

RC town
Transcend
CultOfAdorable
Fork
Moneybags
Beefster

Klick?

EP
Hewhoswims
Maxous
Texcat
Mozamis
Flubber

[RadiantCowbells]

{Mozamis, Flubbernugget, ErrantParabola} is a gamesolve if we assume mozamis scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Tbh I think Scum!Mozamis is the piece that everyone's missing

[RadiantCowbells]

But- there's almost no reason to lynch him because there's so few people he can be partners with. So there's that

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think Moz/Money are scum together. I don't think MOney's scum at all, but.

I think we can legit reduce the game to 4 or 5 possible teams and solve from there.

[RadiantCowbells]

Vote Count 1.6

Flubbernugget

(3): texcat, Thor665, Moneybags

Beefster

(3): mozamis, CultOfAthena, Flubbernugget

Errantparabola

(2): RadiantCowbells, Klick

CultOfAthena

(1): Beefster

texcat

(1): Transcend

Not Voting

(3): Errantparabola, HeWhoSwims, Maxous

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-01-24 20:00:56)

super speed!

If I'm correct, Beef is a dead wagon and the other two wagons are his partners.

[RadiantCowbells]

What causes you to not see EP as scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

I did? I've been entertaining moz!scum since the very get go while everyone else was like NO MOZ TOWN HOW DARE YOU SCUMREAD OUR MOZ

[RadiantCowbells]

why is EP the one who I think you're scum with and yet the only person you didn't go on to address?

[RadiantCowbells]

why is errant riding at the back of the bus?

[RadiantCowbells]

Why are you townreading Flubber too?

[RadiantCowbells]

yeah this could be a good catch. 3rd vote on the wagon, no great reason for it.
town lean Beef, fos flubber

What happened to this FOS?

[RadiantCowbells]

Heh nice retraction of the fos.

VOTE: Mozamis

you are fake news.

[RadiantCowbells]

Spoiler: legendary case

<-- see username

[RadiantCowbells]

i am page 32 gamesolver of this game ama

[RadiantCowbells]

yes I do work out

[RadiantCowbells]

Just relax friendo, everything will solve itself in due time
will vote this since it has more support. transcend u vig mozamis if this flips scum no hesitation.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

[RadiantCowbells]

Ftr this is the most replacable read so it's the last lockscum but I think that we are winning this either way

[RadiantCowbells]

only if you agree to vig moz

[RadiantCowbells]

if scum shoot me and ep and flubber have both flipped town if you don't lynch mozamis you're gt plain and simple

[RadiantCowbells]

both flipped scum yada yada

[RadiantCowbells]

but seriously mozamis is just scum lol

[RadiantCowbells]

even if 1/2 flips scum mozamis needs dead

[RadiantCowbells]

remember that if i die before you scum are saying they value my reads at -1 mislynch more than your reads with your vig shot for full mislynches

I mean his progression is genuine af

But ok dude

death to all mozes

[RadiantCowbells]

like i'm pretty sure he realized that at some point if he seemed derpy enough he could push scum wincon like a legendary motherfucker

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: hws

no fucking stop it don't you see that mozamis is looking for literally any fucking wagon that's on town

[RadiantCowbells]

Also moz why are you trying to get a wagon started on everyone but flubber? I can't deny it's fishy.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also moz why are you trying to get a wagon started on everyone but flubber? I can't deny it's fishy.

[RadiantCowbells]

Because I had literally no desire to deal with people scumreading me and I correctly gauged that claiming would make people shove off.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and vote Errant?

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that you're full of shit saying that you'd be willing to vote EP and were always going to find an excuse to avoid it, in this case because EP is on a sitewide V/LA.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't want to vote hewho because I think that he's town?
I don't see much of a point talking to you because I'm fairly certain that you're scum

[RadiantCowbells]

I like how I became someone that you were concerned about alignment wise when I started calling you scum and focusing on lynching the people you're trying to push away from.

But sure: I claimed because I was frustrated and in the moment it seemed like a good idea. I quasi regret it but at the same time it bought everyone leaving me alone long enough for me to get stuff done.

[RadiantCowbells]

Coming with my experience is the fact that I am never not eating an early bullet.
Tracker is a late game PR, early tracks even coming from me are not of super high value. I am not living to late game either way.

I contribute more to the day game and I actually manage to contribute to the day game when people lay off and claiming did that.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes, I agree that you have no good way of dealing with me besides to try to discredit me by calling me scum to prevent me from lynching your teammates.

[RadiantCowbells]

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I say we take the easy mislynch, then we'll shoot RC because I'm not actually stupid enough to try that 1v1.

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Zzz

this is why I don't vote the most replacable read

VOTE: Mozamis

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and don't you dare discredit my moz read off of flubber being town when I was super clear from the beginning that this is the read that would flip town if any of them did

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I had moz pinned as scum the moment I replaced in, when asked for my top scumread I immediately went to moz. He's always been scum

look at the way he tries to sneak the lynch through on transcend.

I will not be unvoting him while I am alive.

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If Beefster is scum beefster has a strong scum player coaching him and I don't think anyone in this game besides me actively would have coached him.

Please just let me have my lynch, I'm dying before you do.

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Okay but before you do that I want you to know that I love CoA and I will literally die of heartbreak if you do that.

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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I'll take it tbh mozamis gotta go.

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it's not. see: mozamis

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There are less votes on Beefster than before I claimed IC, and no other viable wagon is popping up. There are three days before deadline. Get your shit together before today ends in a no lynch.

Thank you.

You can vote fucking moz

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It was actually only important in the context of my read on flubber

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Flubber vote moz, go onto ep, or take the long shot you're obviously interested in in Thor but I don't like beefster without a scum flip on the right people beforehand

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Well I want you transcend.

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No. Bad.

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Please trust me.

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This is the kind of read MS is systemically bad at. I wouldn't expect anyone to scumread mozamis.

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I don't have the energy to pull an org 13 or whatever but moz is scum

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I say that but org 13 was only so hard because I was low energy the entire game but

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THERE'S NOTHING TO DEFEND MYSELF AGAINST.

THERE ARE NO SCUMREADS OF ANY VALUE ON MY SLOT.

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...

there are no scumreads of any value targeting my slot

my scumreads are of great value tyvm. anyone who thinks I'm scum is bad or scum.

that said I don't think anyone besides mozamis actually thinks that I'm scum, so anyone who thinks I'm scum is scum.

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why do you think my priority should be defending myself when I am literally confirmed town?

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like ignoring the fact that I'm confirmed town nothing mozamis has said in my direction is worth even my time to read, let alone a refutation

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yeah but being rc = correct by default

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I'll think about mustering the mental energy to make a case that won't make sense to anyone because yall are so hyper focused on read progression which is easy to fake and you completely ignore the obvious

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like analyzing poeple's reads is in general the worst way to play mafia

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Man given that I am the person here who made a scum career of doing what people think scum would not want to do I would think I should be the one to judge.

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No I really think moneybags is town.

Like I'm pretty close to having the game poed to 50/50 that I can be 100% sure of with the flubber townflip so

maybe I'll just support anyone who I think is below null today.

Mozamis has to fucking go before endgame though you gotta promise me that.

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Pretty sure this is a town loss

If I'm right on Moz/EP then that means there's only a 1/11 chance we lynch scum today lynching outside of them.

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Well trans, it comes down to your vig.

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I'm checking out of this game, I'll vote with the other clears. gl.

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I am checking out for today, yes.

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I don't think there's anyone who is lynchable who I specifically think has a lot of scum equity so I would prefer to leave the decision to someone who feels more strongly about something.

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Klick, do you think I should try to force my will on people when I don't know what that will is?

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Like: no one is touching CoA or Beef partially because of me.

I will not let my townreads die. But I don't care whether texcat or hws gets lynched.

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There are seven people that im 80% at min sure are town and won't vote, FYI.

So if my trs are right the game is already poed.

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VOTE: Beefster
I think it was the whole volunteering to be lynched thing that pushed him to the scum side for me.

VOTE: Texcat

I find it flagrantly unbelievable that someone would actually say this.

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shoot moz and we can talk about it

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No, never! I totally inexperienced.

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can we lynch tesxx

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Still focusing too much on read progressions n shit

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Just vote tex I guess.

Hope you shoot well transc.

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Yes, I have.

I have also noticed that CoA's activity site wide has faltered and I know from her that she is busy with RL stuff so I do not think that's alignment indicative!

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UNVOTE:

SOmehow that 'thats good to know thanks' makes me think they're town

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VOTE: hewhoswims

i'll test this

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If you shoot coa I will policy lynch you indefinitely

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me too actually.

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THE FUCK WAS THAT SHOT TRANSCEND

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VOTE: Transcend

policy lynch

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fuck you transcend that was as bad as coa

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like fuck off that was my pet townread

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my preference is that we lynch transcend

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transcend

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lets get this going. I cant see how Thor can be town. How could a guy who was so active, and who in a way almost gave the impression of wanting to lead the town, spend the whole day tunnelling one player?

VOTE: thor

not voting transcend is a scumclaim

RC that was a terrible track, Transcend was practically confirmed town.

I'm surprised by how little traction the tex wagon had in the end there. I think there could have easily been two scum wagons D1 and scum had little-to-no influence in either. Tex and HWS weren't particularly willing to vote each other ever.

VOTE: texcat

Scum between Tex/Thor/moz/EP? Not really feeling Max anymore.

not voting transcend is a scumclaim

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Also COA I need you to invest in to this game sometime this day phase so I can make sure I was right that you're town

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oh no I am active lurking what are you going to do about it mr. utensil

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see what if I think that there are alignment indicative reactions to be garnered from repeatedly requesting people to vote transcend

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I'm confirmed town so you can kindly screw off

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Just kidding I love you. But uhh no.

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It occurs to me that it was fuck off my apologies

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This wasn't a fucking joke

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I totally get it EP. There's 14 days, we're not going to lynch you or anything. Take the time you need to catch up.

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ftr I'm just watching interactions for a bit then I have something of note to say.

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CoA what do you think about Thor and Texcat?