Open 710: MKUltra - Foreign Spies Win!

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VOTE: /vote sky

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Okay guys you got me, I can't handle the pressure anymore, I'm Ice Mafia, you can leash me if you spare my life

Ill claim just mafia so either mafia wont kill me

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VOTE: techinic

50% mathdino seems like a scum excuse

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N_M being a good wagon should be pretty self-explanatory by now. N_M is ALWAYS a good wagon. If Impede wants to switch off to an outright scumread, that's cool too.

Iconeum and Red are pretty clearly newbtown I think. Red could 180 very quickly if he lurks it out because I remember him being obvtown like this in my/Sky's game.

skitter trying to read deeper into things reads genuine attempted scumhunting. Need to watch more interactions here.

RC is being RC. It's whatever. If he tries to use incorrect mechanics advice against us I'll lynch the shit out of him because I know he's capable of doing that, but I also see that as unlikely.

Beefster either town or purposefully juking me out because of that last scumgame against me.

If I personally were a kingmaker right this second, would decap Not_Mafia all the same. No strong scumreads yet.

Unless anyone wants me, next post will be Impede. Cheers.

- Math

This is Math's town playstyle meta I think. He finds the obvious towns and finds scum by PoE. This seems like it

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Also, NM's iso looks very bad, I dont see any town motivitaon in his posts. When he got L-3, he voted with GIF nakedly which looks weird. I would vote NM but it would be L-1 so Ill vote

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

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VOTE: techinic

50% mathdino seems like a scum excuse

This feels like reaching. VOTE: RedFlavor.

This feels like reaching. VOTE: Hawk.

Also yeah I was kinda reaching, I did not read everything properly when I voted that

But saying reachy to someone saying reachy to something reachy is really reachy

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The fact that his activity was to countervote me made me feel that he resented being poked. Or it could just be rvs. I don't know. I guess I'll see where it develops.

Like this post from red here saying about not wanting to put NM at L-1 and then voting for GiF because GiF 'voted with NM'. Seems overly cautious and wanting to justify the vote early on. Could be meaningful later down the track if we get a scum!NM flip.

Red could 180 very quickly if he lurks it out because I remember him being obvtown like this in my/Sky's game.

He was 'obvtown' to MathDino only iirc ^_~ And then he flipped scum.

I think I can read Red much better now having had a few conversations with him about town strategy (I told him I'm not the one to ask for scumtips lol). Gonna teacher hydra with him at some point. Still seems town so far tbh.

Also you should respond to the question in 75.

I still don't know how I feel about the Hydra comments being AI... Is this the first game for that Hydra?? Math made it sound like it was a new hydra.

I'm still cautious of Red here.

Sky doesn't GiF voting first then NM following up onto me make GiF look better if Red was scumleaning NM? I don't follow the logic of Red moving his vote then and even mentioning it's to move off of NM. how would Reds vote have put NM to l-1?? NM had to my count 3 votes on them with Red being 4... it takes 7 to lynch? I was so confused by this statement.

dude you can literally check our profile for postcount/post history

also i assume red thinks this is a micro

...which now that i think about it strongly implies he's on a 2 man scumteam holy shit

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Why the fuck did you think your 4th vote was L-1?

Cuz Im an idiot
VOTE: /vote notmafia

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Okay guys you got me, I can't handle the pressure anymore, I'm Ice Mafia, you can leash me if you spare my life

I hope this is a joke. In my last multiball, I made it to about page 10 before I gave up.

VOTE: Technical Difficulties

I'm on board with this wagon for now. Mathdino seems self-conscious about the multiball situation and Impede's half just looks self-conscious in general. Let's see where this takes us.

What do you mean by self conscious?

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VOTE: Iconeum

Like...43 could have been funny and RVSy. But your 51, 54, and 58 are just...unnecessary and fake. Especially 58.

Talk to you Monday, I guess. Wouldn't be surprised to see you pop in soon.

Yeah those posts looks weird

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I voted GIF because they voted same person and thought NM was at L-1

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Someone asked me about what would I expect from math's scum game, I thinked about it and it would probably be pocketing some people and outing their scumread, so I agree that it might be early to TR him.

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VOTE: RedFlavour

Why

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GIF's tone is wolfy and I don't like the Not_Mafia's prodge vote on me with no reason at all. Sky seems townish and

I was V/LA for three days. Not an excuse, I'm just curious how this can be a real thing from you (note my vote was on Red and I'd asked Not Mafia to explain themselves) so that seems kind of fake effort there.

To be fair, I’m REALLY busy and totally forgot about your V/LA when I posted that. MB. Idk why you are kidgloving me on that though. Why didn’t you go for the throat and accuse me of being manipulative? That’s what I would’ve done. Idk your meta so I can’t say if you’re normally a BOTD-giver, but I both appreciate it and am mystified by it.

TD saying

Idk why you are kidgloving me on that though. Why didn’t you go for the throat and accuse me of being manipulative? That’s what I would’ve done.

This part seems weird. I almost thought TD was going to blame Sky for that. I think blaming it for that does not make sense. Actually maybe they said this to accuse him in the future. I don't know but it seems off

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I'm not quite sure why, but I was sheeping Tatl and Tael for a while... Upon closer inspection, they look scummier than they did initially.

I'm not sure what to think about Sesq
I was wrong about TD and heavily misread - They're probably town.
Tatl and Tael seem quite self-conscious. It's a hard slot to read, but I'm going to lean scum on them. Tael's opening post that was theory-heavy looks somewhat suspicious and that hydra slip looks like it may have been deliberate attempt to look like careless town. Same could be said about head contradiction.
RedFlavor and Hawk both look reaching in their logic. I suspect they're both scum, possibly even a scumteam. But it's hard to say anything for sure.
Not_Mafia seems passive/lurky, but maybe I'm just not paying enough attention.

VOTE: Hawk

Does not
me and hawk were reaching so we can be scumteam
sound reaching?

VOTE: beefster

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I think Beefster's reason for putting me and hawk to null seems ok. And I don't think anything is wrong with changing reads and not going with only momential intuition after reading ISO's. Beefster's 188 and some other posts also gave me real towny vibes.

I don't understand Not_Mafia's reason to vote me, and he is probably copying the read of Beefster that said "We (me and hawk) both reached so we both must be scum".
After he got some votes on him, he is trying to act relaxed imo. But I don't see any town motivation at his "reaching" reason.

I don't agree with 212. It's not like Beefster townread us, he just saw that me and hawk "reaching" at the same point does not make us scumteam. Putting to null after ISO read makes sense. I don't think it is impossible for someone to change reads when there were no posts between the reads, but Iconeum showed it like that. I don't like this at all. Plus, in 211 he asked for Beefster's reasons for Beefster TR'ing Mumble, and said nothing about that after that about Mumble read even after Beefster posted his reasons. I think Iconeum is trying to strawman Beefster and mislynch him.

VOTE: Iconeum

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reading this game is as horrible as reading my own death sentence its horrible its horrible make it end

i dont know what to believe

somebody HELP HELP

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i would deliver """content""" but its all just these minimal proses about these same players i can never tell apart

dont really even have a heart for this shit right now

flying down into the pit of my own despair

someone any someone ANYWHERE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

VOTE: hawk

Same TBH

shit, don't know if that be allowed

fuuuck.

here's the vague transcript:


Not_mafia is not_mafia

he seems unconcerned with game state, doing his own thing, pleasuring himself

Not_Mafia is Not_ playing Mafia

and i think that's something i can respect, although i can see how it's not very helpful. mafia is just a game, just a game, right? yes?

Not_mafia is not mafia.



Sky_Paladin is someone, their posts of a certain type, this someone is a cloudposter. cloudposter is a new word, it's a type of posting that takes random fragments of greater, more elaborate posts, and picks on them, inquires. nothing wrong with inquiry, but there is something wrong when the posts fail to see the bigger picture. it's a bit dishonest, even if just by exclusion. it could be worse. it lacks context. i want to go away. sky_paladin is not mafia.

it could be better. beefster. he's town. you can clearly deliniate where his thoughts are with his posts, any holes poked have been thoroughly explained. there's a great amount of focus. town. unambiguously. beefster is not mafia.

How did you conclude that not_mafia and sky is not mafia?
You said what they do but not why those things make them townie

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VOTE: mikan


I am just bored and this player's tone is suspicious so I'm voting her

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Thanks I'm free now

I don't think I will play multiball ever again because I literally scumread everyone then they did very townie things and I put them to my townreads

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Yeah if only I wasnt quicklynched day1

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