VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED
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In post 191, Chara wrote:hey, this argument is pointless, can we nix it. you're talking around each other. Mark's underlined bit means investigative roles to them, and his logic on this has been consistent. i don't think any more semantics are going to help.
are people incapable of reading game mechanics?In post 236, Shining Dreamers wrote:
I am fairly certain this is a >random scum ability.In post 88, Maid Cafe wrote:I am going to claim something I prolly should have approached subtly but it heavily helps the town to target us with actions that grants our slots abilities/items/whatever you wanna call it. When we gain an ability as a result of another player/Creature's spell or ability (which is all actions) we will "power up", well not exactly but I don't really want to claim that part. But essentially just give us free stuff since it's more cost effective then giving other players stuff in a pretty meaningful way.
~B
Not just from a game design perspective, but from a Varsoon game design perspective.
It's the kind whichcouldcome from town, admittedly, yes. But it is still far >random odds of being a scum ability.
Claiming it openly does nothing to lessen that.
ok so preliminary reads. I reckon Maid Cafe is town. i was agreeing to a large extent on their push on Mark. gonna put mark as a scumlean for now.
however, i am more confident in my scumlean on chara. they are townsignalling without actually generating any content. Seems like a better LAMIST.
RR is already a townread but i put very little stock in that bc i always tr them
venmar is a townlean, i respect the shitpost.
those were my main opinions on what I've read so far, will confer with Shiro before going more in depth.- baku and munna
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could still happenIn post 392, Reasonably Rational wrote:
Nope. Nothing immediately comes to mind, which means I probably don't strongly disagree with you on anything(or else I'd have already said so) and I don't particularly feel like reading your ISO simply to satisfy your curiousity about some insignificant difference in opinion.In post 391, OnTheMark wrote:@Cerb — Name one thing you disagree with me strongly on and one thing you disagree with me but it’s meb.
@Kiara (the other part of the Titus hydra) same question.
I am thinking I might be rescinding the Cerb TR.
The implication of your question+statement is that you believe I've been subtly buddying you by echoing/failing to disagree with statements you've made. Let me say this again: you are overestimating how much significance I place on your slot.
I believe the only people I might consider buddying are Titus and mastina, and that would simply be to spare Drixx the unhappiness that he experiences when those particular people fail to trust him regardless of what he does.
Oh, and maybe random, cuz I want to be a in PT with him cuz tradition!
-Cerb
people are confusing chara doing protown things with it meaning they are more likely to be town. only reason i'm not going after them hard rn is that they were arguing with iconeum who has also been scummy and want to think about that more.
not seeing any of the same townvibes from shining dreamers that other people seem to be.
RR, Venmar and Maid Cafe are probs town imo. OTM is either town of playing an extremely smart scum game.- baku and munna
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also townIn post 520, Maid Cafe wrote:
Sup, I am town hbu fam?In post 517, baku and munna wrote:talk to me plz ppl (this is rando btw incase that wasn't obvious)
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i got slight scum vibes from shining dreamers push on maid cafe. it seemed like they started from the position "we're pushing maid cafe" rather than either "we are looking at evidence for maid cafe's alignment" or "we think maid cafe is scum, what evidence supports this" but nothing too strong atm
Venmar is a 100% gut read. it could be bias but i think he is at the very least genuine in his opinions, and am leaning town.
Maid Cafe is that i was on their side in the pregame arguments making me think they were town.
OTM is playing misguided town to a T. A lot of wrong pushes but they genuinely believe them and are trying to solve the game.- baku and munna
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1v1 with maid cafe, early townbloccing. nothing you were right on springs to mind.In post 530, OnTheMark wrote:
Where do you think I am right and where do you think I am wrong?In post 524, baku and munna wrote:i got slight scum vibes from shining dreamers push on maid cafe. it seemed like they started from the position "we're pushing maid cafe" rather than either "we are looking at evidence for maid cafe's alignment" or "we think maid cafe is scum, what evidence supports this" but nothing too strong atm
Venmar is a 100% gut read. it could be bias but i think he is at the very least genuine in his opinions, and am leaning town.
Maid Cafe is that i was on their side in the pregame arguments making me think they were town.
OTM is playing misguided town to a T. A lot of wrong pushes but they genuinely believe them and are trying to solve the game.
things with town motivation.In post 532, Chara wrote:
so, what does town do if not protown things? :>In post 516, baku and munna wrote:people are confusing chara doing protown things with it meaning they are more likely to be town. only reason i'm not going after them hard rn is that they were arguing with iconeum who has also been scummy and want to think about that more.
cerb is many thingsIn post 541, OnTheMark wrote:
It is not to your defense.In post 539, Chara wrote:i would guess the vote moves via privately messaging Varsoon.
but, as usual, your questions are quite thorough.
pedit: :<
Mark, is there a reason you enjoy swooping to my defense so valiantly?
I am about to case Reasonably Rational and show how irrational and contradictory Cerb is being.
Odd that you respond to this and not the Skybird vote.
Then after I get done if someone townreads RR then tell me why.
irrational is not one of them
RR is obv towning tbh, they are asking the right questions and moving the game forwards.
P.edit - i would be happy voting chara rn but want to talk to shiro first- baku and munna
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not yetIn post 935, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
Hey has Shiro been around and what thoughts has she given?In post 762, baku and munna wrote:@mark ok push was a bad choice i meant generally the stuff you were talking about
does who is aligned with who (but not their actual alignment) count as an answer to that question?
ok this is blatant OMGUSIn post 1048, OnTheMark wrote:Dunn is null.
B&M is still scumlean would vote. I am wholly unimpressed with random’s answers. Of the people in the “would vote list” the only reason I hesitate is because Shiro made an effort to say V/LA and when he was scum before he didn’t.
mark you're either playing shit or are scum making disingenuous pushes
VOTE: onthemark
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i think they thought that if it didnt fly they could retract it and use a too scummy to be scummy argument on themselvesIn post 1226, Reasonably Rational wrote:
OTM Chara scum together you think?In post 1223, baku and munna wrote:also chara is scum caught in a gambit
skybird is lynch bait and ico possibly is as well but i'm not sure yet
Why does scum!Chara make a gambit that's demonstrably improbable based on publicly known(and stressed by the moderator) information?
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first of the gameIn post 1253, Randomnamechange wrote:no bc then they have to come up with genuine defensible standpoints rather than contrived bs- baku and munna
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why would i pressure mark here over charaIn post 1263, Venmar wrote:oh no did shiro roll scum?
pedit: im officially reading the "scum caught in a gambit" mentality as baku positioning themselves to be able to vote chara if the gamestate changes it's mind
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ugh
cmon guys if your gonna spampost can you please do it while i'm here soi can actually have some conversations?
ayy it isnt just meIn post 1479, Alisae wrote:
This is scum mastina I'm sorry I never seen mastina just be so wrong before and approach a game from such a scummy PoV.In post 1477, OnTheMark wrote:
Why???In post 1475, Alisae wrote:mastina you can say goodbye to your mana btw.
I townread Mastina+Yume
what is it with horrific omgus this gameIn post 1485, Shining Dreamers wrote:And since we're the same, you're scumreading me as well, and you never do that on d1 as town.
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that just isnt me as scum thoIn post 2061, Gamma Emerald wrote:
OK wow this is horrible, this feels calculatedIn post 1223, baku and munna wrote:also chara is scum caught in a gambit
skybird is lynch bait and ico possibly is as well but i'm not sure yet
im not in the hood...In post 2073, OnTheMark wrote:Oh yeah or random.
Forgot Random was in the hood.
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this is where im at rnIn post 2649, Venmar wrote:In post 2541, Reasonably Rational wrote:Serious question: is everyone having fun?
If you're not having fun, let's talk about it and figure out how to make this fun. I think Micc left because he wasn't having fun, and that sucks.
-Cerb
im having fun. this is actually one of my favourite games in a little while and im happy to be playing itIn post 2545, Varsoon wrote:I'm having fun.
That said, large games can be a huge undertaking and this one already has 100+ pages, so just keeping up with all of it on top of the mechanics I tend to put into a game can be overwhelming.
I want you all to know that I appreciate your dedication to the game. I know staying up to date with a game like this one can be difficult, so thanks for sticking with it.
that said everytime i go to work or go to sleep i wake up to 10+ pages, and now we're at 106 pages, and it's burning me out really fast
catching up on 10 pages again :/, and i work in like 30 mins
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sorry i'm really not good at that. i'm about to go and make myself dinner, i'll do my best after that. Any particular stuff you want to know would be hugely helpful (this goes to everyone)In post 2668, Reasonably Rational wrote:
Random, I'd like all your thoughts.In post 2666, baku and munna wrote:
this is where im at rnIn post 2649, Venmar wrote:In post 2541, Reasonably Rational wrote:Serious question: is everyone having fun?
If you're not having fun, let's talk about it and figure out how to make this fun. I think Micc left because he wasn't having fun, and that sucks.
-Cerb
im having fun. this is actually one of my favourite games in a little while and im happy to be playing itIn post 2545, Varsoon wrote:I'm having fun.
That said, large games can be a huge undertaking and this one already has 100+ pages, so just keeping up with all of it on top of the mechanics I tend to put into a game can be overwhelming.
I want you all to know that I appreciate your dedication to the game. I know staying up to date with a game like this one can be difficult, so thanks for sticking with it.
that said everytime i go to work or go to sleep i wake up to 10+ pages, and now we're at 106 pages, and it's burning me out really fast
catching up on 10 pages again :/, and i work in like 30 mins
im just about keeping up but im burning out to much to post from trying to read all the pages
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Iconeum
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Shining Dreamers (Hydra: Yume & Mastina) - potential scum. principally bc i didn't like mastina's early pushes and yume's reaction to pressure here reminds me of anything upick
Chara - idk why i feel like this slot is scum but i do. i def see a world where they fakeclaim miller.
Baku and Munna (Hydra: Randomidget & Shiro) - lit af
Maid Cafe (Hydra: Maki & Beeboy) - strong townread, came down hard on beeboy's posting early and maki has been obvtown as fuck
Creature - creature is a player i never rly get a read on early
Bronya Zaychik (Hydra: Titus & Kiana Kaslana) - titus is a player i always scumread, but kiana hasn't been particularly townie tbh. null overall.
Almost50 - would need to reread
Reasonably Rational (Hydra: Cerberus v666 & Drixx) - p sure this is town cerb. i've been burned before but i think im right on this one
SnarkySnowman no ideea what they've posted but i dont believe the lie detector claim
Gamma Emerald - my first thought about this slot was "they were alright?" didnt have awful posting but nothing particularly inspiring
Purple Heart (Hydra: Alisae & Taly) - liked taly, alisae seems solid - need to review this slot
Skybird - stand by my opinion of them being lynchbait tho
Nancy Drew 39 - micc made 0 impression on me
Venmar - i tend to tr shitposting when only one person is doing it, and since then, although i haven't agreed with all their points they seem to genuinely believe them
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who acc claimed it was all town?In post 2745, OnTheMark wrote:3rd is also wrong I was counterclaiming the idea the hood was all town and there was a scum in it. It wasn’t a counterclaim of Mastina.- baku and munna
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^this is what i was geting atIn post 2761, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
No. That's not true either. That's a false dichtomy. There's no guarantee of any scum being there and even if there was scum can throw their resources towards defending that slot. Play it like Clue. Just because no one passes does not mean there must be a murder in the cards.In post 2760, OnTheMark wrote:
People refusing to make the lynch a player in the hood.In post 2759, baku and munna wrote:
who acc claimed it was all town?In post 2745, OnTheMark wrote:3rd is also wrong I was counterclaiming the idea the hood was all town and there was a scum in it. It wasn’t a counterclaim of Mastina.
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What what what
I was. Mildly disinterested in the game not gonna lie (mostly cause I was left behind) but varsoon you glorious bastard never ever ever disappoint. THANK You for reminding me why you are best mod.- baku and munna
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Why Gamma I townread you after what little I read and I need a start
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So meta mostly?In post 3107, Maid Cafe wrote:
This isn't how Gamma plays as town.In post 3102, baku and munna wrote:Why Gamma I townread you after what little I read and I need a start
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Why? It is its own way of funIn post 3134, Reasonably Rational wrote:@Chara: If you're right, and our roles and the theme will actually change every time, then I hate this entire game.
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they were playing well day 1 and they were a solid townread.In post 3363, Taly wrote:
What was the point in hoodingIn post 3337, baku and munna wrote:wow that case is bad
like holy shit bad
i sent in the action to make the hood quite a bit before the hammer but varsoon wasn't online at the time so the action got buffered
the reason i hadn't used it yet was because i was waiting for shiro to come around and discuss who to hood.MC?
similar way to cerb's but not to the same degree, MC continuing to push bullshit cases and getting away with it by ignoring criticisms, and fucktons of schoolwork to do before thursday.In post 3383, Chara wrote:random: where'd your enthusiasm go? (not a jab, genuine question.)
do you have a readslist?
holy shit the tunnel and confbiasing at this point is ridiculousIn post 3419, Maid Cafe wrote:
So Chara why did A50 claim?In post 3416, Chara wrote:you seem to have the one who has zero expectations for him, if you think this brilliant maneuver was his scum plan.
Because I was pushing Baku on the notion he had the sword.
Baku who A50 by no means town reads atm.
Guess what the scum motivation in that is? Defending Baku.
OH LOOK THE SCUM MOTIVAITON.
Now please explain to me the town motivation in hammering a null read from L-3.
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sorry chara forgot the readslist will get that up in a sec
also the majority of the arguments against me are proven bullshit from maid cafe
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iconeum is probs town tbh. i don't see skybird's assertions about their alignment working in a world where ico is scum
chara is probs town despite my gut telling me otherwise. they've done enough stuff that doesn't make sense for scum to do that i have a hard time believing they are really scum
maid cafe - ugh. all i have to say about this slot.
creature - town i think? vaguely remember liking some of their posting?
bronya zaychik - scumlean. bit of poe on this slot, but they haven't really done anything particularly townie, and from what i've seen of kiana's play i tend to townread players with that style
Almost50 - i actually believe their claim about the hammer. I don't think scum a50 has any reason to out at that point (obv my perspective here is a bit different bc i know i'm town)
RR - stand by my townread on this slot.
snarky - were they replaced? need to check this slot
gamma - could be scum, kinda liked their posting today but yesterday was eh
purple heart - some dodgy pushes but think that might be confbiasing. similar to chara, gut says scum but head says town
skybird - i really don't like their play around iconeum and wasn't wowed by their posting yesterday. iconeum looking more town makes me more inclined to think this is scum
nancy drew - 0 impression still
venmar - probs disillusioned town imo. they haven't been as strong since early day 1 but i still doubt they are scum
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what a good reason to vote someoneIn post 3476, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Hi! Kiana here.
Will be vetoing the A50 vote. Titus, talk to me privately, I'll explain.
In brief: We shouldn't punish town playeres who have made a mistake and are being honest coming out about it.
Will be putting out vote back onto baku and munna. For the most part, I was looking forward to Shiro playing the game, but with Shiro absent I have no personal reasons to keep the slot alive.
VOTE: Baku and Munna
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the other "guilty" was them thinking i played the artifact or w/e which was bullshit from teh start and since then a50 claimed the artifactIn post 3489, Skybird wrote:In post 3280, Maid Cafe wrote:I thought I had a guilty on Gamma but I misread mod communication kek.
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B&M, I see where the one guilty was rescinded but are you saying the second one wasn't a guilty because he included you in the 4 player list? If so how do you know one of the other two names isn't scum?In post 3339, baku and munna wrote:one of hte guilties was rescinded and the other wasn't a guilty in any shape or form
@MC assuming you really do have a guilty on someone, how about putting your vote there and leaving it there. Cause right now it looks like you coming and saying you got 2 guilties was just a bunch of BS. (And I would really like to think you got at least one guilty!)
so they were talking entirely out of their arse
perhaps if certain resources came back into play your position would become substantially more negotiable?Bronya Zaychik wrote:
No, real talk, the secret reason why I didn't want you dead yesterday was to play with Shiro here. No Shiro, no baku and munna. Your funding has been cut.In post 3485, baku and munna wrote:
what a good reason to vote someoneIn post 3476, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Hi! Kiana here.
Will be vetoing the A50 vote. Titus, talk to me privately, I'll explain.
In brief: We shouldn't punish town playeres who have made a mistake and are being honest coming out about it.
Will be putting out vote back onto baku and munna. For the most part, I was looking forward to Shiro playing the game, but with Shiro absent I have no personal reasons to keep the slot alive.
VOTE: Baku and Munna
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But but but I am hereIn post 3476, Bronya Zaychik wrote:For the most part, I was looking forward to Shiro playing the game, but with Shiro absent I have no personal reasons to keep the slot alive.
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In post 3497, Randomnamechange wrote:maid cafe doesnt have any guilties
their guilties were me and ge
ge they rescinded and they didnt actually have a guilty on me- baku and munna
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SlipIn post 3510, Purple Heart wrote:Is this just an altslip, or is this because of a role shift?- baku and munna
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