Mini 2004 - Birth of the Necromancer - [DERP! - MOD LOSES]

[Katyusha]

eddie cane

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So I read like the last five or so pages around when AD replaced out

VOTE: Mollie

Starting with Eddie/Wis/Nancy/Ank as all fairly obvtown, worst probtown and mollie probscum as a result of comp shenanigans and garbage eddie push

Will give a more generous read later but these felt right when I skimmed 8 hours ago

are u read up?

No lmao should I bother

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anyway

Hi mollie!

Can you explain your Eddie scumread to me in like a bite-size package?

pedit: do you actually hard townread my slot already

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Also fwiw I think the optimal play around the zombie is to just ignore it

Reading into it is just stupid, scum are going to try to manipulate you into reading into things wrong and the slot is already confscum so there's no need to actually try to read it

pedit: Why's worst low for you btw? Kind of think mollie is buddying him and he knows better than to push you as scum here, he scumreads you so like he's not Town but I wouldn't pick him as a mollie partner

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worst probtown

....are you pocketing me or has the day finally come?

If you are in fact town the day has finally come!

pedit: treating you different is nai i think, worst has been basically shitposting as a meta lately. he's readable when he tryhards if our non-marathon game together was any indication at least

If I'm not in your first 3 lynches I'm in the wrong spot in your list

yreah but it's nbd lmao, at least not worth trifling over

worst get on mollie

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by "readable" i mean "incredibly obvious scum james brafin why did you lynch me over this"

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it is meta i learned recently

Speaking of meta I can verify this is in fact a thing!

Brass flaking definitely and not sitewide >rands him as scum and glancing at his iso just now didnt exactly give me townpings

pedit: i appreciate the lack of opposition but i'd like to know if you actually have a reason to scumread her

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that's 5 and scum has harmless zombie so its l-1

lol i should probably actually count then

give intent to l-1 etc so we can get a claim

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yreah this feels right

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pg 2 and for the record i've 100% been in nancy's shoes here as town before so like

chakras are blitzing there

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Nancy gets better and better

tbh i would have townread her + brass's vote was scummy so lmao she's fine rn

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This game has just barely started and not everyone has even posted yet. How can you be so sure that scum hasn’t been lurking? If you insist on mislynching me; is it really that unreasonable to you people that you do it closer to the deadline; so you can be a lot more certain that you aren’t making a mistake? Why don’t you want to wait for everyone - if not the majority of posters; so you can get a much clearer idea. of who is likely scum in this game and who isn’t. I’m not but you don’t even want to give yourself a chance to really find out who is. By rushing this lynch, town basically cheats itself from possibly acquiring valuable info; that can help you d2 and later.

By mislynching me via a quickhammer; you will learn nothing but that I flipped v. If you give yourself time to read other people’s posts; then you will be able to make a more useful and INFORMED choice and will be far less likely to mislynch.

I’m not saying this, just because I’m the lead wagon; I’d say the exact same thing regardless who was, because I’ve seen too many mislynches on d1 in general but with a maj; you guys have to realize that you’re turbo jumping the odds of that.

Nancy, do you think everyone voting you is town?

No, I don’t. Why? Because on MU; I’m generally viewed as a “wolf magnet”. Wolves love to target me, because they know that I get better as the game goes on and am pretty good at outting them. Unfortunately for me, I usually suck early game; so I suppose that my very first mislynch would of course happen on d1, in a maj, and on a site that I’m not that familar with and don’t know too many of you.

I wish RC was in this game, because he would set you guys straight. In one of my games on MU; he knew before anyone else that I was hardtown. Unfortunately, no one believed him and I was wagoned every single day I was in that game at one point or another. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out for him to play this game, because he, more than anyone else on this site knows my meta.

how were people scumreading this this is obvnewbtown

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Kok is ... interesting. I keep forgetting about him.

Can someone tell me if hes lynchbaity or scum this game? I'll decide whether to sheep them

i usually refuse to read him on his main but i'll let you know if i come up with anything

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uh he sort of doesn't really have a "main"

i guess the main is eddie

but

he has so many accounts and the one that's his main changes it's just not worth trying to identify him that way

not sure what the db defines as his main though, if it's first account im not sure he wants to share that? i know most of his alts tho

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OH you mean kokichi not eddie lmao

pedit: wait why are we not lynching that then

pedit: yreah same lmao

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gerald oatmeal

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90% of the reason i replaced in was to be his rock since i tr him so that makes sense!

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tbf the first 40 pages of this game are p much useless

i'll take your word for it then

pedit: how do you feel about giving intent on mollie?

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Could you try to remember?

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For me it's brass flaking and neither her Eddie push nor Wisdom push felt like they had real trajectories. Hence me wanting a compact summary of her thoughts on Eddie.

Never played with Mollie and only have followed games with brass so my read's meta-agnostic.

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Terrifying......

there's worse

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pedit: wait why are we not lynching that then

thinking about it the answer's self explanatory

more kills = more zombies = lylo comes faster

if i get the setup correctly there's only one necromancer, right? so once we get him we can trigger the vig if we have mislynches left

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oh lmao

pedit: i'm under the impression we have a lot of town power so either wouldn't surprise me

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we're lynching mollie though so we should be ok

looking over i dont see that flipping town, nancy + ank are obvtown with zero paranoia, wis and eddie are equally strong townreads with some sideeye because Good Scum^tm but i have no real reason to scumread them. dont see us fucking today up with basically that wagoncomp (i know it's a little different but you get my point)

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havent thought too hard about that yet and was hoping interactions upon replacing in would sort that out. didnt bother reading past page 5 since eddie said it was a waste and i didn't start from page 40 yet

i dont really see why you'd go for kokichi, i guess his reads could be tmi wrt nancy? I don't really have a real reason to say that that's the case though over him just being town and right. I feel like nancy!town's a read he would pick up on quickly as town anyway

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im considering whether or not i should sleep, work on my project, or read this game

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valid

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Do you think tywin is scum trying to be bad on purpose

From what I vaguely recall from seeing his games when he was new this doesn't seem like something he'd do? Lemme read his iso

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i'm leaning on wrong town as well on tywin

on iso #21

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100% what happened was Ankarius' replacee rolled scum, got scared, lurked til replaced

actually this isnt a real thought process and i genuinely hope he doesnt believe it

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i'm townreading tywin

how do we feel about fitz/zito? that's who i'm reading next

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i get where your read is coming from cain but i dont really know if i agree

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Wisdom

Kokichi Oma

Nancy Drew 39
Ankamius
Sugar Cain

pirate mollie

Eddie Cane

Srceenplay

the worst

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Tywin Lannister
havingfitz

fitz + srceen? i dont think ive seen any of their posts so thats just sheer poe assuming kokichi + tywin are both town

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dont get the impression mollie is playing like she's about to get bussed

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Waiting for Mollie to claim

This and me to have the time to read fitz/srceen

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I’d like to see your own basis to your mollie read srceen

The meta read is the weakest part of the push

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305 doesn’t give me town pings but I wouldn’t say it’s impossibly town?

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Ank i’ll get to you in a sec, not in a mindset for dense content at the second

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sorry dont really have the chance to sit down and actually put thought into my posts, will try to deliver tomorrow if finals/depression dont kill me lmao

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Katy are you sure this is town? That VCA is the second worst thing itt so far (the worst being the outcomes anka came to from it)

Definitely lol i've done this before

mollie before u go tho can u answer my question

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I'll read for the other slots during the night, glad we got the lynch if i skimmed correctly

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They call it lolcatting

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Lol

That sucks the setup looked cool

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Was probably going to say we lynch SC anyway we had a strong townbloc so we could afford the risk

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katyushi is just going along with eddie, doesn't really care what my alignment is.

I don’t mean to be a bitch but your push was really scummy, if I didn’t give a rat’s ass I wouldn’t have A: replaced in, or B: bothered to ask you to articulate your Eddie scumread because your confidence was really unnatural

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honestly i wasnt too sure about kokichi being scum this time around, i usually scumread him out of annoyance. like i could see it but i'd barely read the whole table

didnt like his twilight/posts around the hammer though

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I missed it ;_;

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^ hard agree w above

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wisdom was good yeah, not really sure what you're getting at nero :shrug:

i usually read you right when i actually play though so if your slot didn't claim i'd probably focus on that. i brushed you off to the side though bc of that