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[brassherald]

VOTE: the worst

Your upside down avatar confuses me.

[brassherald]

Nancy, I wanted to have a better crafted question than this but can't think of a better way to phrase it.

What the hell are you doing?

[brassherald]

Why aren't you voting her?

Good point.
VOTE: Nancy
That post was pre coffee.

[brassherald]

Nancy is probably town, but annoying AF at this point.

I am against policy lynching, though.

UNVOTE:

Smell y'all later.

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Tbh i really dislike turbos. But sometimes it could benefit town to prevent multiple PRs being outed D1.
Idk their alignment so I'm not gonna choose a side here yet. They just seem overly defensive.

I really dislike that Eevee wouldn't commit to a read either way here, and simultaneously argues for a turbo lynch to supposedly protect PRs.

Like, this is a bad post, I'm just trying to see what the scum motivation is for this. Anyone have any ideas?

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Someone sickhzmmer me zlrezdy. I don’t wznt to br in z gzme where people are this ready to mislynch on d1 before 24 hrs.

ok

VOTE: Nancy


See y'all tomorrow.

Seriously, dude? An attempt at a quickhammer this early?

Why were you so convinced that Nancy was scum at this point?

Or, if not, why were you ready to lynch that early?

[brassherald]

Nancy still mebbe scum i don't feel like hammering it yet

Please explain.

[brassherald]

Nancy enough with the selfmeta and theories
I want to see what you think about people's alignments.

Rn, I’m the most sus about Action Dan, I think his professed concern for me doesn’t add up; if he’s beyond convinced I’M scum.

I also don’t like Zito not giving any reason for voting on me; even when I pressed him on it.

VOTE: Action Dan

Where do you see that he's "beyond convinced that you're scum"?

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They don't particularly tell us if you're town or scum ?_?

I’m town in all of them. Like I said, I have yet to rand scum.

Then how can we know how you play as SCUM? For all we know you did get scum this time.

You’re right, you can’t because I don’t have any scum meta only town but that’s true for everyone in this game.

What? This is completely false

I meant, no one - other than scum, obv. can know anyone else’s alignment.

Unless there are masons.

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Catching up now, but I'm here.

Caught up yet, my man?

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No, I really can’t tbh. Why would you want to hide your reasons?

Slamming me for grammer now, seriously?

*grammar


There's any number of reasons why I'd want to hide my reasons! I'm surprised as a graduate of MU you're not able to come up with any. I've been told so often how much better mafia play is over there. This isn't a newbie game tho so I'll leave that particular theory lesson for you to chew on.

Anyway it seems people have abandoned this wagon because they saw something shiny so I guess I'll go vote your partner now.


VOTE: Kokichi

Can you explain your sustained scum read on Nancy?

[brassherald]

I'll vote when I get some answers. I'm actually here in the first 10 pages for a change to ask some questions.

[brassherald]

brass are we finally town together?

I sure hope so.

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VOTE: Papa Zito

If I'm not going to get answers this is a good vote to have.

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Is eeved not a good vote to have, brass?

I would not be against lynching her either. Both are pretty scummy, right now, I prefer Papa.

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Who replaced in?

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ankamius

Okay, I just looked, Mechagoomba didn't post Day 1 anyway, so my confusion on reads after replaces does not come into play anyway.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Eddie Cane

Tywin is obviously town.

Wisdom is very likely town.

I assume SC is town.

I would surprised if Papa Zito is scum.

I think Nancy is more scum than not.

Can you explain any of this, please?

[brassherald]

It's rare his brand of intransigence after earning the stink eye from almost everyone in thread (ignoring correlations) comes from scum.

unrelated, @brass, if you can't understand a even a single of those reads my desire to explain any to all of them dissipates completely.

I'm just asking for some analysis. I can understand and agree with some, but I'm looking for thought processes.

[brassherald]

I just realized I haven't voted today.

VOTE: Papa Zito

[brassherald]

I legitimately do not know what are quotes and what are comments in 358. Please fix that.

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what how and why
i dont see anything wrong with brass's post

Brass asked him to post the reasoning behind any of his reads, even though he apparently already agreed with some of them? What read(s) is he looking for info on and why?

Its like I said before, town has an agenda behind questions. Brass doesn't.

I mean, I can town read the same people as him but the important thing comes down to what the actual thoughts are. This is a play style issue, people are going to call my questions useless because they don't understand my methods, but I'm still going to ask them.

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Hey, I've had a busy weekend and do not want to use a prod. I'll be back with more game related stuff tomorrow. I probably should have just announced VLA for this weekend, but its too late now.

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I don't have much time to share full thoughts, but the worst seems pretty townie, ND still super town.

I still don't like the Ziot slot, but it seems no one wants to lynch there, go figure.

I have no clue what Ank is doing here. Feels weird from her to do a push, then come off of it claiming she could not gauge my reaction when I gave a reaction. Now, I am not sure who or why she is voting and that's probably on me just not retaining information though. I need to reread her, so noting that to myself here.

wisdom, in as much as I can form a slight read on him, is decent, and I do not like Sugar's push there because of that.

VOTE: Sugar

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It seems Ank is basically just handing out town points for agreeing with her reads and reasoning, which is pretty bad. If she, at any time, she would like to clarify what she actually is doing and correct me, I will admit being wrong.

If that's what you are doing and you are actually town, stop it.

In other news,

@the worst

talk to me about Screenplay here, I'm a little confused on your current vote.

[brassherald]

you said zito has been scumreading kokichi and thus hes town

i said he could be scum using genuine reasons to scumread kokichi because hes naturally scummy

I'm not townreading Zito because he's scumreading Kokichi.

I'm townreading Zito because I believe he's scumreading the Kokichi posts before that for the same reason I was,

and

is unlikely to be faking it because of both how he talked about it when he was questioned and how he clearly felt about it over time. It feels like he picked up on the same type of thing I did, stood his ground, then let it go when it was no longer relevant.

This is the post I am most confused about from you, it seems like a roundabout way to say our thinking aligns therefore he's town.

I'm mostly not sure what is being said because you start off saying one thing, then continue to talk about the townread, which, to me, reads pretty close to what you are saying you are not doing.

I guess I am asking for more clarification on this read.

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you said zito has been scumreading kokichi and thus hes town

i said he could be scum using genuine reasons to scumread kokichi because hes naturally scummy

I'm not townreading Zito because he's scumreading Kokichi.

I'm townreading Zito because I believe he's scumreading the Kokichi posts before that for the same reason I was,

and

is unlikely to be faking it because of both how he talked about it when he was questioned and how he clearly felt about it over time. It feels like he picked up on the same type of thing I did, stood his ground, then let it go when it was no longer relevant.

This is the post I am most confused about from you, it seems like a roundabout way to say our thinking aligns therefore he's town.

I'm mostly not sure what is being said because you start off saying one thing, then continue to talk about the townread, which, to me, reads pretty close to what you are saying you are not doing.

I guess I am asking for more clarification on this read.

Well yes, I believe our thinking aligned.

The more important part is how he went about it.

Then, could you explain what you mean when you say "how he went about it" in another way?

I should not have to feel like I'm cross examining you to get some actual explanation.

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I shared some reads before and I'm still not doing a read list, however.

I'm still trying to figure out Screen which is why I am asking the worst for his thoughts.

Eddie and Tywin are both nulls.

Sugar is not great but looking better, so UNVOTE:

Kokichi I'm having a hard time with, I find an effective way to read him is by how rude he is being to people which has been effective up until now, but the last time I told him about the tell, so he might have adjusted his play because of it. I find this to be less tame than the last time I saw him as scum, but moreso than the last few times I have seen him as town. I could see this as a scum slot, though, sure.

Ankamius and Nancy are frustrating me so much they must be town.

Zito is scummy and the best lynch so I'm going back to him. VOTE: Zito

Action Dan I have to reread.

And, I would probably only lynch Wisdom on policy right now based on how he is so hard to read for me, which is inherently inferior to a scum lynch.

God, I hate doing these.

[brassherald]

Have you ever not scum read me?

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In other news, @the worst talk to me about Screenplay here, I'm a little confused on your current vote.

Read my iso or explain why you think it's a bad vote and I'll explain.

I'm not saying it's a bad vote, I'm just saying your progression seems to be this:

1. He's okay, but needs to post more.
2. His push is bad.
3. I'm voting him.

I'm trying to connect the dots here.

[brassherald]

@mod Replace me, please.

Between taking on more responsibilities at work and looking for a place to live, I just can't keep up here. See you all another time.

Will do. See you some other time, I guess.

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Hey, guess I didn't have to replace out ton start my move towards what I am calling a Mafia Sabbatical.