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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Wed May 02, 2018 10:50 am

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VOTE: Nicorobin
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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Wed May 02, 2018 10:50 am

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Actually VOTE: Cheeky
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Wed May 02, 2018 10:55 am

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In post 19, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 17, MOMOMEN wrote:okay so i confirmed with kts that this is the best way;

we picked eddie cane. we are a LOUD FLIPLESS Eddie Cane. not gonna fullclaim our ability, but when we die we flip as EDDIE CANE not town nor scum.

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Why?
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Wed May 02, 2018 10:56 am

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In post 21, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 10, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: mastina
Don't do that, please. It would be boring without her around, plus she is great at fleshing out who is town and who is not.

Town: Sudowoodo
Scum: Wisdom, though he is probably being himself, but I am putting him here anyway just because

Some preliminary reads.
Is this person normally this scummy
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Wed May 02, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 26, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 22, Lovebird wrote:
In post 19, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 17, MOMOMEN wrote:okay so i confirmed with kts that this is the best way;

we picked eddie cane. we are a LOUD FLIPLESS Eddie Cane. not gonna fullclaim our ability, but when we die we flip as EDDIE CANE not town nor scum.

:)
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Why?
It ain't town. "I don't actually flip when I'm lynched" is like, not town.
Idk. Don't see why.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #5) » Wed May 02, 2018 10:59 am

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VOTE: Nicorobin
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Post Post #45 (isolation #6) » Wed May 02, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 37, MOMOMEN wrote:I'm not gambitting, and I'm not a liability. You can still cop me while I'm alive. I'm also loud so you know everywhere I target (which is almost nowhere). Anyways, playerlist review time!

i) beeboy
ii) CheekyTeeky
iii) Momrangal
iv) Wisdom
v) MariaR
vi) Lovebird
vii) Lady Lambdadelta
viii) Kokichi Oma
ix) NicoRobin
x) mastina
xi) Sudowoodo [Hydra of Alisae & Pine]
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xiii) MOMOMEN [Hydra of Eddie Cane & Killthestory]
gonna lurk but smart enough
gonna ate but smart enough
gonna be annoying
gonna tunnel but smart enough
friendsish, competence debatable, very swingy
competence debatable
gonna be annoying but smart enough
gonna ate and be annoying but smart enough
gonna do nothing
gonna wallpost more than i'm gonna read but smart enough
friendsish, smart enough
???newbie queue player, looked okay
gonna carry, smart enough
Lol, already met my quota of getting called stupid in this game
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Post Post #49 (isolation #7) » Wed May 02, 2018 11:19 am

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In post 47, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 45, Lovebird wrote:
Lol, already met my quota of getting called stupid in this game
I would call you stupid if I thought you were stupid. Competence debatable is basically calling you average.
Ok :)
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Post Post #50 (isolation #8) » Wed May 02, 2018 11:20 am

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In post 48, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok I get ya, can we give him room to play around his claim though? I don't want to narrow focus on Eddie and his claim right now. Things will become more apparent.
Agree with this
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Post Post #125 (isolation #9) » Wed May 02, 2018 12:35 pm

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In post 59, Sudowoodo wrote:mastina, what're your thoughts on Nico? I'm not sure how I feel yet, and frankly yours is the read I'd trust the most.

I don't see any scum motivation whatsoever to Momomen claiming that role. If I'd been issued it, I'd have shut up and essentially flipped Town off from the grave.

So it's either a fakeclaim or Town truth.

LLD's plan to treat it as a Miller claim works for me.

Pine
But, not claiming it kind of confirms it as scum. Why wouldn't town claim it?
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Post Post #133 (isolation #10) » Wed May 02, 2018 12:41 pm

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In post 128, CheekyTeeky wrote:Love you're my only town read. Don't leave me :/
Just reading, getting confused
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Post Post #136 (isolation #11) » Wed May 02, 2018 12:43 pm

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In post 99, MOMOMEN wrote:Nico and Sudowoodo arent partners
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Post Post #146 (isolation #12) » Wed May 02, 2018 12:47 pm

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VOTE: mastina
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Post Post #236 (isolation #13) » Wed May 02, 2018 2:17 pm

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In post 215, Wisdom wrote:
In post 146, Lovebird wrote:VOTE: mastina
Why? Do you not believe her claim or think it comes from scum?
Chose to talk a lot more about the claim stuff over reads, which she ignored.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #14) » Wed May 02, 2018 2:18 pm

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In post 228, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 225, mastina wrote:You know this game's gonna be hell when literally the only three people talking are your only three scumspects.
1/3 isn't bad...oh no wait it is!
Who's the one?
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Post Post #239 (isolation #15) » Wed May 02, 2018 2:19 pm

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In post 230, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 229, mastina wrote:Also you're not even remotely skeeved by your role apparently being similar to mine which is really fucking off, so.
Guys this is key point.
I did this once as town, but turned out the person originally claiming was scum.

So, something to look at there, but maybe not just for wisdom scum.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #16) » Wed May 02, 2018 2:20 pm

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In post 232, CheekyTeeky wrote:Assuming the scum team is 3 players I'm pretty comfortable calling it Mastina/Wisdom/LLD. Gg.
Is this serious?
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Post Post #242 (isolation #17) » Wed May 02, 2018 2:22 pm

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In post 241, Wisdom wrote:But why does mastina claim that as scum instead of using it on a buddy
Idk. Could be weak, or maybe just made up in first place. Just going by reads and not roles rn.
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #18) » Thu May 03, 2018 11:55 am

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Wtf?
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #19) » Thu May 03, 2018 11:56 am

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Faster than 40 player game...

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #20) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:20 pm

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In post 357, CheekyTeeky wrote:Fine I'm fucking counterclaiming Mastina and Wisdom. I am beeboy. I have inventions. Now shut up and lynch Mastina.
Cheeky really towny
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #21) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:42 pm

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Maria spending lots of time focusing on people's reads on her, less on reads and other things.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #22) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 501, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 26, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 22, Lovebird wrote:
In post 19, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 17, MOMOMEN wrote:okay so i confirmed with kts that this is the best way;

we picked eddie cane. we are a LOUD FLIPLESS Eddie Cane. not gonna fullclaim our ability, but when we die we flip as EDDIE CANE not town nor scum.

:)
Lynch this claim.
Why?
It ain't town. "I don't actually flip when I'm lynched" is like, not town.
I don't think it's that deep. I think that's NAI. Based on what I've seen from Eddie Cane in games, he sometimes posts a random "Eddie Cane" post, so I'm assuming that's just a flavor and NAI. So, I don't like how you're trying to put a policy lynch on him for it. Unless you've never played with Eddie Cane before? Then I suppose that would be different.
So awkward
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #23) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:53 pm

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In post 592, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 591, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 590, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 589, CheekyTeeky wrote:You guys are free to set me straight in a civil manner in thread. Yelling at me instead of talking to me and sorting shit out is what makes town dysfunctional so pull your head in.
What is your read on Lovebird?
Town.
Why? I am not seeing it.
Do you townread momrangal?
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #24) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:54 pm

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In post 598, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:yeah their posting feels surface level to me, like... like they're more concerned with looking like they are trying to sort things as opposed to actually delving into them and putting them places. They move their vote alot but without any real efffect or reason.
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #25) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:58 pm

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In post 646, beeboy wrote:Alisae and Maria is one of the following things.
TvT
TvS
SvS
Your welcome.
In post 647, beeboy wrote:If you think about it though if the above post is true.
We hit scum 50% of the time by lynching inside them.

:thinking:
In post 648, beeboy wrote:AND IF WE HIT SCUM THEY CAN'T BE TVT WHICH MEANS 50% OF THE TIME THEY ARE SVS
Lol
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #26) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:59 pm

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I guess I don't really need to wait for LL to respond. Weird that she questions townread on me and not mom if she's not townreading mom. Scum that thinks I'm easier lynch?
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #27) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:04 pm

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So many people are mastina. Hope someone picked me.
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Post Post #1134 (isolation #28) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:07 pm

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In post 762, Momrangal wrote:So I'm supposed to put this game over my baby. Got it.
Reasonable, but, not like cheeky said this. Kind of overreaction imo.
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #29) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:19 pm

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In post 744, Momrangal wrote:Sec fussy baby is fussy
Oh, didn't really comprehend this.
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #30) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:29 pm

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In post 951, beeboy wrote:I town read lovebird.
I got a secret tell on them.
I believe this. Probably town
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #31) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:39 pm

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Omg, been here like two hours.
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #32) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:41 pm

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i)
beeboy

ii)
CheekyTeeky

iii) Momrangal
iv)
Wisdom

v) MariaR
vi)
Lovebird

vii) Lady Lambdadelta
viii) Kokichi Oma
ix) NicoRobin
x) mastina
xi) Sudowoodo [Hydra of Alisae & Pine]
xii)
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xiii) MOMOMEN [Hydra of Eddie Cane & Killthestory]

Feels ok.
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Post Post #1140 (isolation #33) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:43 pm

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VOTE: Kokichi
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Post Post #1143 (isolation #34) » Thu May 03, 2018 2:09 pm

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In post 1141, beeboy wrote:
In post 1125, beeboy wrote:I think I am ok reading Kokichi given time, I don't really know what he is right now.
I am serious let me read players who are easy to read
Ok.

VOTE: mastina
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #35) » Fri May 04, 2018 11:54 am

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Ok, so mastina and nico actually masons? Trust beeboy's read on nico but still scumread mastina.
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #36) » Fri May 04, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 1245, MOMOMEN wrote:{cheeky, eddie, yume, mastina} are aligned with town

good start
Why mastina
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #37) » Fri May 04, 2018 12:10 pm

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In post 1326, Wisdom wrote:nico if scum-mastina ends up winning the game due to your bullshit will you admit how bad you are?
Really towny
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Post Post #1646 (isolation #38) » Fri May 04, 2018 12:25 pm

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In post 1495, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm really not scum but getting invested in this game is hard so...
In post 1496, RedFlavor wrote:
In post 1495, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm really not scum but getting invested in this game is hard so...
Weird timing
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Post Post #1648 (isolation #39) » Fri May 04, 2018 12:26 pm

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In post 1638, Wisdom wrote:thats easily something i fake as scum
Oh. I guess nai then, normally would say postgame talking comes from town a lot more
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Post Post #1657 (isolation #40) » Fri May 04, 2018 12:31 pm

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I am pretty sure nico is town. But, not masons with mastina, just very very deeply pocketed by scum mastina.
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Post Post #1661 (isolation #41) » Fri May 04, 2018 12:32 pm

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In post 1590, mastina wrote:
In post 1512, MOMOMEN wrote:1511 shows me yume is reading so little it makes me legitimately angry
I mean, yes, I recognize it can be a little bit strenuous to work with her at times but you can work with her. It just requires patience, time, and practice. Also positive reinforcement of "you know, this part is good" even if you do mention the other parts aren't, rather than "all of this sucks" which isn't helpful for her.
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Post Post #1665 (isolation #42) » Fri May 04, 2018 12:33 pm

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Knows exactly what to do to create positive feelings towards herself.
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Post Post #1666 (isolation #43) » Fri May 04, 2018 12:33 pm

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How tf do you all post faster than me
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #44) » Sun May 06, 2018 7:57 am

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Hi.
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #45) » Sun May 06, 2018 8:00 am

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Really don't think wisdom is scum.
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Post Post #2161 (isolation #46) » Sun May 06, 2018 8:02 am

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In post 1595, MariaR wrote:
In post 1582, CheekyTeeky wrote:Are maria and koki masons now?
In post 1584, Momrangal wrote:That's the idea they are trying to push
Huh?
In post 1620, MariaR wrote:yeah I'm not masons with kokichi idk where you got that idea
In post 1754, MariaR wrote:I want you all to know this game started 2 days ago and you've already made this go in the 1700s
sweet jesus
In post 1760, MariaR wrote:
In post 1573, MariaR wrote:
beeboy MOMOMEN Kokichi Oma

NicoRobin

Sudowoodo
Wisdom

CheekyTeeky Lady Lambdadelta

RedFlavor Lovebird

mastina Momrangal

something like this
@LLD
In post 1763, MariaR wrote:
In post 1761, Wisdom wrote:Lovebird has to go to green now Maria
What did Lovebird do?
In post 1765, MariaR wrote:I'm not believing any mason claims we've had like 3 so far I don't think I was lynching lovebird today anyway.
In post 1766, MariaR wrote:If any of them are legit masons they're claiming wrong cause you're supposed to just claim mason and then people let you live for a day and out your partner the next day.
In post 1773, MariaR wrote:Happy birthday~
In post 2156, MariaR wrote:
In post 2099, RedFlavor wrote:Maria, what do you think about Wisdom?
don't think he'll flip scum but his flip would be fun to see others reactions too it.
In post 2158, MariaR wrote:hrm. I'll think about it
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #47) » Sun May 06, 2018 8:03 am

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Better to wait to see how that turns out, I think.
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #48) » Sun May 06, 2018 8:14 am

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Same for mom.
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Post Post #2170 (isolation #49) » Sun May 06, 2018 10:05 am

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In post 2164, Wisdom wrote:do you confirm the mason claim?

wanna vote sudo?
Don't think it's protown to discuss. Beeboy is town, I'm town. Doubt on it is WIFOM for scum nk.

I guess. Don't want to lynch before mom or maria come back.

VOTE: Sudo
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Post Post #2171 (isolation #50) » Sun May 06, 2018 10:06 am

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In post 2167, beeboy wrote:
In post 2160, Lovebird wrote:Really don't think wisdom is scum.
Why is this?
Reading through find myself thinking things that he then ssays. So, we're thinking the same. Happened before where that was scum, but it's different contexts.
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #51) » Mon May 07, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 2189, Momrangal wrote:Momo didn't you literally just say you thought I was a pr
In post 2190, Momrangal wrote:Like why the fuck am I getting ran up to claim
Can't tell if this is towny or not.
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #52) » Mon May 07, 2018 2:08 pm

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I thought it's role madness so that's not really valid, but does scum say it? Given scum probably already knowing it's role madness
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #53) » Mon May 07, 2018 2:12 pm

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I guess this is the part where the game slows down.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #54) » Mon May 07, 2018 2:17 pm

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In post 2215, RedFlavor wrote:
In post 2212, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:When we decide who to lynch, give me a chance to move my vote to someone else before day ends.
Same

Also LLD is town
In post 2216, RedFlavor wrote:i)
beeboy
mason with lovebird
ii)
CheekyTeeky
can confirm with sudo
iii) Momrangal
iv) Wisdom
v) MariaR
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Lovebird
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Lady Lambdadelta
town
viii) Kokichi Oma
ix)
NicoRobin
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x)
mastina
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xi)
Sudowoodo [Hydra of Alisae & Pine]
can confirm with CT
xii)
RedFlavor
saw role pm
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MOMOMEN [Hydra of Eddie Cane & Killthestory]
town

Sudo and CT claimed that they can confirm each other tomorrow so Im not lynching them today

I was townreading wisdom for claiming "someting similar" but It could be for towncred for future claims
Kind of underwhelming
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #55) » Mon May 07, 2018 2:18 pm

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Mom didn't actually come to a conclusion.
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #56) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:29 pm

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In post 2257, Kokichi Oma wrote:Why is Lld town?
Who are you talking to?
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Post Post #2260 (isolation #57) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:35 pm

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In post 2259, Kokichi Oma wrote:You quoted it so I assumed you agreed. Iirc you and LLD are friends IRL? If so what's your read on her.
What? I called it underwhelming. And, you have the wrong person.

LL questioning townreads on me was weird over mom who she was scumreading. Don't remember anything else since then.
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Post Post #2799 (isolation #58) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:20 pm

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Hi.
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Post Post #2800 (isolation #59) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:26 pm

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Is anyone around to talk?
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Post Post #2804 (isolation #60) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 2801, OnTheMark wrote:What I am saying is if you’re town then one of the mason pairs is scum.
Masons can't be scum?
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Post Post #2806 (isolation #61) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:38 pm

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Mod could scum be masons?
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Post Post #2810 (isolation #62) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:48 pm

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Town is beeboy, cheeky, you, think momo is town too. Sudo scum, think mom's claim is more likely scum one, still think masrina and nico faking being masons but nico is really towny.
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Post Post #2812 (isolation #63) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:51 pm

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In post 2809, OnTheMark wrote:Driving now back in an hour or so.
Don't use phone and drive
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #64) » Thu May 10, 2018 2:51 pm

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:)
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Post Post #2816 (isolation #65) » Thu May 10, 2018 3:22 pm

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I just said them.
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Post Post #2831 (isolation #66) » Thu May 10, 2018 4:29 pm

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In post 2828, OnTheMark wrote:From a balance point why four masons and other roles especially positive utility claims

Masons and enemies and other mason friendly setups had nothing else because of this.
Scum could have powerful roles. Or, nico and mastina still just gambiting.
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Post Post #2833 (isolation #67) » Thu May 10, 2018 4:34 pm

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In post 2832, MariaR wrote:bee not hacing me as town is worrying not in a "oh it's scummy" way but as a "how the fuck" way
Towny?
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Post Post #2835 (isolation #68) » Thu May 10, 2018 4:43 pm

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I don't really get how. 3 masons vs 3 scum isn't instant town win, for example.
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Post Post #2840 (isolation #69) » Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 pm

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Sometimes patience is a powerful tool.
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Post Post #2973 (isolation #70) » Fri May 11, 2018 10:59 am

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If I were scum, couldn't I just say "yes" anyways? Don't get how it confirms anything.
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Post Post #2974 (isolation #71) » Fri May 11, 2018 11:00 am

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VOTE: momrangal
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Post Post #3242 (isolation #72) » Mon May 14, 2018 10:50 am

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Pls don't go
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Post Post #3539 (isolation #73) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:18 pm

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In post 3255, Cheetory6 wrote:
Mathdino replaces in for CheekyTeeky.
Hi, math.
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Post Post #3541 (isolation #74) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:42 pm

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Omfg
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Post Post #3543 (isolation #75) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:44 pm

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Ok, so beeboy claims masons with me, but he never messages me or anything. That's fine, I think he's town anyways. I try not to say anything about it to see how nightkill turns out and because I never planned for it or anything
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #76) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:45 pm

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Idk why anyone thinks I tell beeboy to with me claim mason as scum there, makes totally no sense. Wasn't scumread anyways
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Post Post #3546 (isolation #77) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:46 pm

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I didn't ask him to claim masons??? But didn't think it was a good idea to deny it
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Post Post #3547 (isolation #78) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:47 pm

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If I'm scum why does nahdia give up claim on replace in?
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Post Post #3548 (isolation #79) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:51 pm

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Urghhh beeboy claims masons with me and then replaces out
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Post Post #3549 (isolation #80) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:54 pm

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I hate this :)
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Post Post #3551 (isolation #81) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:56 pm

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In post 3550, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3544, Pine wrote:^This is not a townpost
Couldn’t agree more.
It's literally true
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Post Post #3552 (isolation #82) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:59 pm

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Idk I think I've been towny even without this and idk why people think it's scum
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Post Post #3553 (isolation #83) » Tue May 15, 2018 4:59 pm

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Scumclaim
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Post Post #3555 (isolation #84) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:00 pm

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I think beeboy really does have a secret tell on me so it made sense
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Post Post #3556 (isolation #85) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:02 pm

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Yah Nadia can confirm beeboy didn't even message me or anything
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Post Post #3558 (isolation #86) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:03 pm

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In post 3557, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3554, Pine wrote:Actually, I'm getting cold feet on Lovebird.

Her story checks out. I ISOed her and beeboy to show that she softed or claimed Masons first, but she comes off as kind of confused but receptive when he says it. Even when pressed, she never actually confirms the masonry, but rather says it isn't pro-Town to talk about it.

That...actually kind of checks out as her having a strong TR (which he was) fake Masons with her. She doesn't want to blow up his spot, but also doesn't want to get trapped in the claim.

I mean, it'd be really easy to lynch Lovebird for this, but beeboy was the aggressor in this gambit. He even talked wistfully early in the thread about faking a Mason claim some time ago.

VOTE: Kokichi

This is what I'd like. Table the Lovebird/Beeboy mess for now.
Not a chance in hell.

I refuse to believe that lovebird is town when the mason claim only caused pages and pages of headaches.
That has nothing to do with me
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Post Post #3559 (isolation #87) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:03 pm

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I get annoyance but it's not a reason why I'm scum
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Post Post #3560 (isolation #88) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:04 pm

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Why is it even me that people focus on when I didn't even do the claim?
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Post Post #3562 (isolation #89) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:07 pm

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Idk I never fakeclaim as town I just didn't want to ruin beeboy's plan if he had one and I thought he's town anyways
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Post Post #3563 (isolation #90) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:07 pm

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I would never fakeclaim mason myself like this
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Post Post #3565 (isolation #91) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:08 pm

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There will be lots upset postgame I predict
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Post Post #3566 (isolation #92) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:11 pm

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In post 3564, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3560, Lovebird wrote:Why is it even me that people focus on when I didn't even do the claim?
Because you never rescinded it. You saw it and just let it go. Even after beeboy doubled down.

What town player believes this is acceptable?
1) It want me who claimed in first place. I never even said once I'm mason
2) I thought beeboy's town anyways so it doesn't matter. Other people even recognized this


Idk where your scumread comes from. I get you're upset he fakeclaimed but I never asked for this
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Post Post #3567 (isolation #93) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:12 pm

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Like people said "oh love and bee probably gambiting but they're town anyways" so I figure it's fine, if only reason people were townreading beeboy was claim or if he claimed to avoid lynch I'd say something
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Post Post #3569 (isolation #94) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:13 pm

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Timing wasn't scummy to me either?
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Post Post #3570 (isolation #95) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:14 pm

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What do you think scenario is, that I'm scum with beeboy? Doesn't make sense
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Post Post #3571 (isolation #96) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:15 pm

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In post 3568, OnTheMark wrote:You’re intentionally deceiving town based on a belief if you’re town and if you’re scum it’s to blatantly put me and Mastina and Nico at odds.
Wtf you weren't even in game when bee claimed
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Post Post #3574 (isolation #97) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:16 pm

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Idk. I'm sorry. I don't fakeclaim. I just thought bee had plan and that it wouldn't hurt town to go along
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Post Post #3575 (isolation #98) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:16 pm

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In post 3572, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3570, Lovebird wrote:What do you think scenario is, that I'm scum with beeboy? Doesn't make sense
Yes and it does.
Why does Nadia retract claim if we're scum

Why does bee claim in first place if we're scum?
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Post Post #3578 (isolation #99) » Tue May 15, 2018 5:21 pm

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I don't think that makes sense
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Post Post #3988 (isolation #100) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:44 pm

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In post 3961, mastina wrote:Nahdia
MathDino
OnTheMark
Lovebird
Lady Lambdadelta
Pine
Not_Mafia
MOMOMEN

So assume OnTheMark, Pine, Nahdia, and Lovebird are spewed town. (In about that order of strength.)

You're left with:
MathDino
Lady Lambdadelta
Not_Mafia
MOMOMEN

...Two scum in this pool.

If I were asked to rate the confidence in scum being in there. It'd be about 57.5%.
Or rather, both scum.
One scum, good 90%, but we're talking, both remaining scum. That's 57.5%.

Still. I could use some crowdsource feedback on my process here.
NicoRobin and I are conftown by virtue of being masons and also shooting scum.

OnTheMark is more likely town through a combination of their role being Asceticizer when scum had an Ascetic and via play being more likely to be town.
Pine is more likely town through a combination of Kokichi Oma spewing the slot as town, role symmetry with Mathdino, and previously mentioned reasons I was townreading him which still hold: the Alisae play, the Alisae replace, Pine's play, their gamesolving, their thought process, and so on and so forth. (I've posted on this before.)
Nahdia is more likely town through a combination of Kokichi spewing the masonclaimers as town, Nahdia retracting the claim when doing so as scum then would be disadvantageous to scum, and general townplay from both beeboy and Nahdia.
Lovebird is more likely town through a combination of Kokichi spewing the masonclaimers as town, Lovebird's thought process bleeding town when the claim was retracted, and beeboy having a solid read there which is something which may be trustworthy especially from a Team Mafia mod. (Team Mafia mods are privy to some info from Ellibereth.)

That'd leave those four names, yes? Two of which would be scum, yes?

I guess I can lay down an initial vote now.
VOTE: Not_Mafia.
50% odds of being scum aren't the best, but they beat random odds.
Are you sure pine is town from kokichi flip?
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Post Post #3989 (isolation #101) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:45 pm

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In post 3977, Pine wrote:
In post 3970, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3968, Not_Mafia wrote:1 on

VOTE: LLD
why aren't we lynching this slot again?

Because Mathdino is telling us not to?

Pine are you really gonna hold me to that one day thing because I hunger for blood.
Ehhh. The read was from MathDino.

However, I have a COMPELLING reason to think Not_Mafia is Town, which I would STRONGLY PREFER to keep to myself. An action was performed on me N1 which, the more I think about it, virtually confirms N_M to me. I would very much like not to elaborate.

So yes. I'm holding you to it.

I think our best options today are {Nahdia, Momomen}. Given Momo's claim, I'd prefer the former.

Mastina, you have one shot to convince me why you're TRing Nahdia, because I don't see it.
No, it was just me
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Post Post #3990 (isolation #102) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:46 pm

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In post 3057, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 3051, beeboy wrote:{Not_Mafia, LLD, Mom, Mastina}

Scum are in here.
I agree with that!
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Post Post #3991 (isolation #103) » Mon May 21, 2018 4:51 pm

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Is anybody around?
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Post Post #3993 (isolation #104) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:17 pm

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Hi :)
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Post Post #3994 (isolation #105) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:17 pm

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What do you think of math?
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Post Post #3995 (isolation #106) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:18 pm

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I don't see scum motivation in what you said about his handwaving
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Post Post #3997 (isolation #107) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:29 pm

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I guess. But, I think that philosophy is one he believes.
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Post Post #3998 (isolation #108) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:29 pm

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Or at least, it makes sense that he says it. Not sure if he really believes it.
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Post Post #3999 (isolation #109) » Mon May 21, 2018 5:31 pm

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In post 0, Mathdino wrote:I can name dozens of players that I can't D1 read for shit. When you start out onsite, almost every player will be near unreadable. But consider this scenario:

You're in a game, and Almost50 claims "northsidegal is definitely town this game". He has good reasons. You can't read Almost50 or northsidegal. But you notice that Almost50 has 90% accuracy at reading NSG when he's town.


This is a team game. Trust your fellow players' strengths. The most probable scenario is that Almost50, if he's town, is correct. This means either:
A. They are scum together.
B. Almost50 is scum who knows NSG is town.
C. Almost50 is town who is 95% likely to be right on NSG.

Can they be scum together? Remember, it's hard for scum to confidently defend their buddies; they know all their reasoning is wrong! Ask around, see if others can rule out A50/NSG.

...so you found A50/NSG isn't the scumteam? Great. You should be townreading her with 90% confidence.
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Post Post #4004 (isolation #110) » Tue May 22, 2018 5:08 pm

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Ping
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Post Post #4045 (isolation #111) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:26 am

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In post 4038, Pine wrote:Yeah no, it's you. You and MOMO. Edge case for LLD.
Why?
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Post Post #4046 (isolation #112) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am

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In post 4043, Pine wrote:N_M

I think you are Town for reasons you are (likely) also aware of. I think it was a scum-motivated night action.

Talk to me please.
It wasn't :)
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Post Post #4047 (isolation #113) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am

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Idk what people see scum math or momo
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Post Post #4049 (isolation #114) » Wed May 23, 2018 11:28 am

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VOTE: pine
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Post Post #4138 (isolation #115) » Fri May 25, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 4054, mastina wrote:
In post 3988, Lovebird wrote:Are you sure pine is town from kokichi flip?
Not in of itself, no.
But paired with my other reasoning, yes.
Can you explain again? I don't see it.
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Post Post #4139 (isolation #116) » Fri May 25, 2018 3:04 pm

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And, I think momo is town.
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Post Post #4140 (isolation #117) » Fri May 25, 2018 3:05 pm

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Math isn't really doing much.
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Post Post #4141 (isolation #118) » Fri May 25, 2018 3:06 pm

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In post 4077, Mathdino wrote:guys pine is not getting lynched today
literally has a relevant night action tonight

VOTE: OTM

OTM, nahdia, or LLD is my lynchpool
Explain?
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Post Post #4208 (isolation #119) » Sat May 26, 2018 12:17 pm

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In post 4161, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 4158, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 4149, Mathdino wrote:It would be sweet if KTS posted before getting mislynched this time, Eddie
I'm more likely to flake out than make kts play

(I was asleep and did not message him for the following page)

do your job as the loud annoying townie my man
In post 4153, MOMOMEN wrote:haha 90 pages ofmpure egotism and fuckinf usrlesss bikering and q0 pages of anything actually tangibpey not a monley ass conversation

it's almost like tjos was wjy i stopped playong tjis baby ass fucking game filled witha bunch of shitters who only caj ate LOL
Yet that is nothing but AtE and begging a buddy to obvTown lolz
Ate isn't scummy, and also sometimes it's true
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Post Post #4209 (isolation #120) » Sat May 26, 2018 12:18 pm

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In post 4182, Nahdia wrote:well, MOMO is getting replaced. Let's see what their replacement has to say about it.
Omfg
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Post Post #4210 (isolation #121) » Sat May 26, 2018 12:19 pm

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In post 4201, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Current stance, to repeat is that

Pine Mastina Nico and OTM are all super town either via confirmation (all but pine for me) or just play (pine).

Momo is a bad lynch today, I think he's a better lynch tomorrow.

N_M is probably scum, but impossible ot lynch because people are idiots.

Pine is claiming Mathdino town, so I'm giving him one day.

So that leaves me what, Nahdia?

And the only reason I'm not voting is so I can use my fucking ability
Why is pine town to you?

And, you forgot me.
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Post Post #4267 (isolation #122) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:01 pm

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In post 4259, Nahdia wrote:So like, are you flipless or not? Could you please answer without all the subterfuge and layers of irony?
Nadia, what are you thinking rn?
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Post Post #4268 (isolation #123) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:02 pm

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In post 4258, zMuffinMan wrote:
Spoiler: kokichi rundown
-nico
-sudowoodo
-sudowoodo
+redflavor (d)
-mastina
-sudowoodo
-sudowoodo
// -sudowoodo
-cheeky
-cheeky
/ -wisdom?
maybe important (also -wisdom?)
-sudowoodo (also -mastina?)
-sudowoodo
-nico
-sudowoodo
-cheeky
-wisdom
-cheeky
-beeboy?
-wisdom?
-beeboy
-mastina
-wisdom?
-cheeky
+redflavor (d)
-wisdom?
-cheeky
-cheeky
-wisdom
/// -mastina
-masons?
// -nahdia?

strong negative connections with sudowoodo, cheeky
moderate negative connections with mastina, nico, wisdom
weak negative connection with beeboy
weak positive connection with redflavor

that's all the reading of the game i'm doing. from this point on, magua-replacing
Maybe you should read from start of day two.
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Post Post #4269 (isolation #124) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:03 pm

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I don't think muffinman is "caught scum" but idk what he is doing.
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Post Post #4272 (isolation #125) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:28 pm

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Just seems weird to only look at the claims. Though, I would vote not mafia with you.
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Post Post #4273 (isolation #126) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:29 pm

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One second.
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Post Post #4274 (isolation #127) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:38 pm

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I thought someone had it but I didn't find it.
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Post Post #4414 (isolation #128) » Thu May 31, 2018 1:22 pm

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Ach, maybe we just abandon?
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Post Post #4415 (isolation #129) » Thu May 31, 2018 1:24 pm

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No scumread I'm really confident on. Tons of replacement.
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Post Post #4416 (isolation #130) » Thu May 31, 2018 1:26 pm

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Stressful game.
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Post Post #4498 (isolation #131) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:27 pm

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In post 4487, zMuffinMan wrote:could have just saved me the fucking trouble

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10204481

lovebird,

why those two? and was it compulsive?
They were in the poe, and I figured at least one scum between them. Plus, had no role related reason to leave them alone.

Not compulsive.
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Post Post #4504 (isolation #132) » Thu May 31, 2018 5:05 pm

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VOTE: Not Mafia
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Post Post #4570 (isolation #133) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:24 am

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In post 4539, zMuffinMan wrote:actually, hold on, sorry

Unvote


is the lover thing permanent? (if pine or not_mafia knows, they can answer; if not, i want to hear this from lovebird)

if it's not permanent it might be worthwhile lynching elsewhere today and settling not_mafia some other day
It doesn't say anything about time. I would think it doesn't go away, but I'll ask mod.
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Post Post #4571 (isolation #134) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:30 am

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In post 4557, zMuffinMan wrote:hmm. maybe not lovebird actually. could be scum but eh, the cupid thing as at least consistent with her play and reads and im not sure scum-who-loverised-town-players acts like she's been acting around it (or even chooses those targets because wow that's a waste of an overpowered scum role). kind of iffy about the fact that she used it when it wasn't even compulsive, though

dunno

will most likely just end up on not_mafia today and i should stop thinking about it
Idk. I figured it's like vig or something, like an extra lynch. And, better to use it earlier than later. Why not use it?
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Post Post #4572 (isolation #135) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:32 am

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Is nico still here?
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Post Post #4574 (isolation #136) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:35 am

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Okay, he said lovers doesn't go away. How romantic :)
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Post Post #4575 (isolation #137) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:36 am

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In post 4573, NicoRobin wrote:I am always here.
Wtf
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Post Post #4578 (isolation #138) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:44 am

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It's like a double lynch, right?
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Post Post #4579 (isolation #139) » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:45 am

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Idk. I thought it was a good idea. I didn't think I'd get role that I just shouldn't use.
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Post Post #4736 (isolation #140) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 4729, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Vote: Lovebird


Guilty.
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Post Post #4737 (isolation #141) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:31 pm

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Retract or it's scumclaim.
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Post Post #4738 (isolation #142) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:34 pm

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I'm not scum.
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Post Post #4739 (isolation #143) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:35 pm

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Omfg.
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Post Post #4741 (isolation #144) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:39 pm

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It's so fake.
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Post Post #4742 (isolation #145) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:40 pm

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Whatever. Always I get lynched at end of game and lose town the game.
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Post Post #4743 (isolation #146) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:42 pm

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Post Post #4744 (isolation #147) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:43 pm

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Post Post #4746 (isolation #148) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:45 pm

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Post Post #4747 (isolation #149) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:46 pm

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In post 4745, Nahdia wrote:Sorry girl, we have a mislynch and obviously my own reads have been balls so I'm not keen on doubting this too much. If it were MYLO/LYLO it would be different, but...
It's ok. Maybe town can still win :)

I don't expect to be believed, so just going to enjoy bird pictures now
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Post Post #4748 (isolation #150) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:49 pm

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Post Post #4750 (isolation #151) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:50 pm

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Post Post #4752 (isolation #152) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:52 pm

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Okay, here's truth. I'm serial killer. If we let me live, I shoot whoever town wants.
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Post Post #4754 (isolation #153) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:54 pm

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I can kill or loverize.
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Post Post #4756 (isolation #154) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:55 pm

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I won't say what I did if you're voting me
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Post Post #4760 (isolation #155) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:58 pm

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Sorry, I'm not going to say unless we don't lynch me today :)
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Post Post #4761 (isolation #156) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:59 pm

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Post Post #4764 (isolation #157) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:01 pm

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Town will always lose without my info.
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Post Post #4766 (isolation #158) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:02 pm

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I was trying to help but I have to try to win :)
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Post Post #4767 (isolation #159) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 4765, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:oh my fucking god that scramble.

Please fucking lynch Lovebird.
I'm sk. Town might lose on my lynch.
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Post Post #4780 (isolation #160) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:27 pm

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Sorry, not helping town until we're not lynching me
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Post Post #4781 (isolation #161) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:27 pm

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Post Post #4782 (isolation #162) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:29 pm

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Post Post #4783 (isolation #163) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:32 pm

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Post Post #4785 (isolation #164) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:35 pm

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Post Post #4786 (isolation #165) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:37 pm

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Post Post #4788 (isolation #166) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:40 pm

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In post 4787, Nahdia wrote:hey lovebird i actually like the gifs a lot but could u put them behind spoiler tags in the future? can eat phone data and im abroad rn so i gotta be careful with that.
Oh sorry

Hope you have nice trip :)
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Post Post #4789 (isolation #167) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:42 pm

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Spoiler: Ducky
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Post Post #4790 (isolation #168) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:42 pm

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Ok, I guess I'll stop now.
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Post Post #4815 (isolation #169) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:11 pm

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VOTE: Lovebird
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Post Post #5020 (isolation #170) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:12 pm

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Yay. Great job Lady. I should listen to scumbuddies more.
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