Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[Sudowoodo]

*is a tree*

[Sudowoodo]

Hi Alisae. I picked you as my role, yeah.

How dare you.

I am a tree.

[Sudowoodo]

Yes, we are Town.

Bored with pretending to be a tree. This is Pine.

[Sudowoodo]

mastina, what're your thoughts on Nico? I'm not sure how I feel yet, and frankly yours is the read I'd trust the most.

I don't see any scum motivation whatsoever to Momomen claiming that role. If I'd been issued it, I'd have shut up and essentially flipped Town off from the grave.

So it's either a fakeclaim or Town truth.

LLD's plan to treat it as a Miller claim works for me.

Pine

[Sudowoodo]

Obviously.

Hush now.

[Sudowoodo]

Nico, I'd actually prefer if you didn't answer any more questions for a little while.

Trust me here.

[Sudowoodo]

Flavorclaiming is conceivably risky if there are roles out there that target individuals. Also, some players have more obvious qualities which would give clues to powers. Mastina, for example, will obviously have some sort of wallposting-related power. I'd rather not speculate further.

That said, whoever was issued my role is probably scum, so it may cut both ways.

[Sudowoodo]

^Pine

[Sudowoodo]

That said, I was used in the sample role PM, so maybe Alibae was used for the flavor role issued.

[Sudowoodo]

Yo Sudo, do you think the mod gave themselves you and also another player you? I know it's sample PM but

Well, I just said that Cheetory probably used Alisae instead of me, but mod post explained it.

[Sudowoodo]

Shrug

Semi-useless setup spec. Moving on.

[Sudowoodo]

/me wakes up
/me sees 6 pages
Kay

[Sudowoodo]

I just remembered that fucking multiquote doesn’t work on mobile fuck me.
The only reads I have atm are Wis town and
VOTE: LLD
^^That^^

Fucking kill me

[Sudowoodo]

Also is it bad that I read a post on page 2 and said Wis was town
Because that sounds bad

[Sudowoodo]

Also Pine has a deathwish apparently

Pedit: I tried and I guess I fucking suck at mafiascum so /shrug

[Sudowoodo]

But basically I said all I really wanted to say

[Sudowoodo]

Uh Eddie Sudo feels town.

Yay a Pocket!

[Sudowoodo]

What post did you townread me off Ali?

I think both posts on pg2 seem good to me and just made me say “I feel like you’re town.”

[Sudowoodo]

Uh Eddie Sudo feels town.

See Wisdom? This beautiful person townreads Sudo and is STILL obliging. Why can't you be more like Cheeky?

[Sudowoodo]

Wis is it because I got you to TR me twice as a wolf
Because those feelings get into your head when that happens

[Sudowoodo]

I currently have 3 strong scumspects.

Who are?

[Sudowoodo]

But in all seriousness Wis yes, weak reads are often weak and not very good

[Sudowoodo]

Honestly
The most wolfy person is the one that is pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim
So can we lynch that please, because its a really scummy push
Ty <3

[Sudowoodo]

Do I believe it likely that he is town with that ability? I don't think the odds are high. I know negatives on town exist this game (See: my restriction. I can't move my vote except every 48 hours after I vote) but that negative?

Can you prove this

[Sudowoodo]

Honestly
The most wolfy person is the one that is pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim
So can we lynch that please, because its a really scummy push
Ty <3

She stopped pushing him

does that really change the nature of the push?

—

Honestly
The most wolfy person is the one that is pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim
So can we lynch that please, because its a really scummy push
Ty <3

But I'm not?

My initial reaction was that Eddie was scum, and then we talked about it... and now we have a better understanding of how we should play around the claim.

honestly, the way you backed out of it seems like how a wolf would back out of a push it feels too much like trying to maintain a solid push rather then a push that’s right

[Sudowoodo]

Do I believe it likely that he is town with that ability? I don't think the odds are high. I know negatives on town exist this game (See: my restriction. I can't move my vote except every 48 hours after I vote) but that negative?

Can you prove this

Sure, here.

Vote: Sudo

ty

[Sudowoodo]

bad cheeky

Master follow us to glory.

Cheeky is allowed to stay in my pocket

[Sudowoodo]

Honestly
The most wolfy person is the one that is pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim
So can we lynch that please, because its a really scummy push
Ty <3

She stopped pushing him

does that really change the nature of the push?

—

Honestly
The most wolfy person is the one that is pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim
So can we lynch that please, because its a really scummy push
Ty <3

But I'm not?

My initial reaction was that Eddie was scum, and then we talked about it... and now we have a better understanding of how we should play around the claim.

honestly, the way you backed out of it seems like how a wolf would back out of a push it feels too much like trying to maintain a solid push rather then a push that’s right

you are Pine and Alisae, so I cannot believe you are saying this with a straight face.

I don't back down from pushes... like... ever.

This was a scenario where the more I talked it out and considered everything, the more I felt my gut reaction was incorrect and chose to pick a different path. I still feel like my analysis of the likelyhood of things being put in this game was ok, but I also feel like my plan solves my concerns and I'm MORE than happy to give people rope to work with when they agree to be slated for death?

ik it feels wolfy and unnatural I'm sorry

[Sudowoodo]

my wistownread is good btw

[Sudowoodo]

oh yeah btw I FoS Claire so she can start playing the game soon

[Sudowoodo]

The thing is, when youre pushing your read, you dont think of all that
I insist on this because i often push unpopular reads and its rare ill back down even if people come up with the most logical arguments
So you getting convinced and backing down there feels unnatural

what really annoys me is generally you'd be right, but my vote restriction and other stuff kind of force/make me want to play slightly differently?

Mechanically, this made more sense, and my only scum inclination on Eddie WAS the claim at the time.

I got what I wanted from it (reactions from Eddie and players around Eddie, a deal that people should follow because it makes sense to counteract the negatives of Eddie's role claim, conversation on why I felt that role was scummy) and then decided there wasn't anything else there that couldn't be solved with this plan.

I've been doing this recently, where I take players with claims like that and give them ultimatuum on "time to live" and it's like: Perform well or die?

So um
am I going crazy or does this read as dishonest to anyone? Because it reads as dishonest to me.

tbh the fact that I wolfread LLD is making me think I'm crazy but if wis and Cheeky share my concern maybe its not just me.

[Sudowoodo]

Also Pine has a deathwish apparently

So do you.

ok ty for ICing me

[Sudowoodo]

Also Pine has a deathwish apparently

So do you.

tbh when I originally wrote that, I was under the impression I was interpetting something I recieved by the forces of your BFF as something waaay differently.

[Sudowoodo]

Assuming the scum team is 3 players I'm pretty comfortable calling it Mastina/Wisdom/LLD. Gg.

no

I keep on hydra slipping this doesn't happen to me

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: LLD

Bad posting opportunistic vote
VOTE: Cheeky

wolf #2 caught ez

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky ur wrong on Wis and Mastina
I mean I think there could be 1 wolf in {LLD, Wis} but its likely LLD and mastina is never a wolf please look elsewhere ty

[Sudowoodo]

btw I can soulread Claire and she thinks that I can't (I think) but I definitely can

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: LLD

Bad posting opportunistic vote
VOTE: Cheeky

wolf #2 caught ez

Try again.

u read people the way you do currently because?

[Sudowoodo]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand cheeky doesn't want to listen to me ok

[Sudowoodo]

Claire I'm asking for reasonings behind ur reads :/

[Sudowoodo]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand cheeky doesn't want to listen to me ok

Ali. I need you to trust me here.

I have a n0 inno on mastina
I think a n0 inno overrules your reads

[Sudowoodo]

Claire I'm asking for reasonings behind ur reads :/

Do you care?

Yes

[Sudowoodo]

Claire I'm asking for reasonings behind ur reads :/

Do you care?

Yes

Claire I don't think I'm being that antagonistic

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky
I have a n0 inno on mastina
fuck off please

[Sudowoodo]

Like look you cannot have the game reasonably solved on pg 10 just no
LLD is a wolf sure but not mastina kay

[Sudowoodo]

No. We're lynching Mastina.

I LITTERALLY JUST SAID THEY'RE CONFIRMED TOWN CHEEKY

[Sudowoodo]

Claire

[Sudowoodo]

Maria is town.

Cheeky, I'm actually about to put you on mute.

[Sudowoodo]

No. We're lynching Mastina.

I LITTERALLY JUST SAID THEY'RE CONFIRMED TOWN CHEEKY

Well they're a god father then. Don't make me "doubt = zero" my read.

VOTE: Cheeky

[Sudowoodo]

Not very interested in voting maria either

this is her wolf game reeeeeeeeee

[Sudowoodo]

do I have to dig game after game after game to prove my read creditability on Claire
cuz I can do that.

[Sudowoodo]

I rather get inside your head first.
I want to see your thought processes
you're not giving me your thought processes
in fact you feel too easy and I'm open to the possibility that you're trolling me on purpose.

[Sudowoodo]

Like all of your posts feel like you've given up since post 1 its wierding me out like wtf.
I'm open to being wrong here in which case I rather talk it out cause you're being very underwhelming and thats concerning me.

[Sudowoodo]

My vote is 100%. Srs you don't get triggered that easily feels like gamma all over again. Plus when you've legit sr me you were way more aggro about it. You feel like a whiny child not getting what they want rn.
Fake.
Die.

we're not even that far into the day yet I'm trying to get better idea about my reads I haven't even voted you yet.
I'm only offering to put cheeky on mute because she is being seriously tunneled and bad but when she said godfather I just gave up because now its just agenda based.

[Sudowoodo]

VOTECOUNT 1.03

mastina [3]

- Wisdom, Lovebird, CheekyTeeky

Wisdom [3]

- Momrangal, mastina, NicoRobin

Sudowoodo [3]

- MOMOMEN, beeboy. Lady LambdaDelta

Lady LambdaDelta [1]

- Sudowoodo

CheekyTeeky [1]

- MariaR

Not Voting [2]:

Kokichi Oma, RedFlavor

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have (expired on 2018-05-16 18:00:00) to do so.

WOW WHAT AN INTERESTING VOTE COUNT

[Sudowoodo]

These wagons all suck

VOTE: redflavor

wis you're voting low hanging fruit

[Sudowoodo]

I'm not saying they do I'm saying your posts come across like that way they give me that vibe its very dissapointing and maybe I'm using the wrong words to explain it but the point is its wolfy

[Sudowoodo]

These wagons all suck

VOTE: redflavor

wis you're voting low hanging fruit

Those can also be scum
also i don't know who else to vote

I mean ur not wrong but more data is required

[Sudowoodo]

tbf I thought mod error > LLD lieing about not being able to move her vote cause lieing about that is stupid

[Sudowoodo]

ok I'm done being annoyed with Cheeky
VOTE: Maria

[Sudowoodo]

This is not going to be a fun experience for me hahahaha fuck me

[Sudowoodo]

Well they're a god father then.

Yeah about that.

Also I am a town godfather.

That role's taken.

Not a godfather.

Scum claim.

Cheeky please stop being bad

[Sudowoodo]

mastina claire is being difficult

[Sudowoodo]

Honestly, is it a reasonable expectation for town!Claire to go "But you're wrong" or try to indicate moreso that I'm wrong and I'm losing my touch and ability to read Claire.
Because honestly, I expect more of this if Claire is town

[Sudowoodo]

I have a n0 inno on mastina yes I am calling you bad

[Sudowoodo]

like seriously the last time Keely played with hard innos like that he got pitchforks postgame for having 3 wolves being able to get hard innos on each other
probably no gfs here.

[Sudowoodo]

like if you think mastina is a gf fine lynch her before LyLo but she's like 100% not a godfather here and you should trust the fact that mastina is a n0 inno like
idunno what I'm supposed to do.

[Sudowoodo]

I have a n0 inno on mastina yes I am calling you bad

Fine I'll entertain the possibility you have an N0. How do you have one? I've never seen an n0 on MS.

Yes I have one its on mastina

[Sudowoodo]

and how do you think I have one?
Like really why am I answering that I think the answer to that is obvious

[Sudowoodo]

When Sud flips scum I expect mastina to be next in line.

glgl

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky what possible role can make it so I can get a n0 inno
come on this is fucking common sense and is extremely obvious and I'm already lightyears out of my scumrange because I don't do things this stupid as a wolf

Bonus points: Claire knows this

[Sudowoodo]

Actually ANYONE who knows my wolfgame knows this.
Wis might even know this

[Sudowoodo]

Bee would know this too!

[Sudowoodo]

When Sud flips scum I expect mastina to be next in line.

Not gonna happen.

I mean, yes, I think Sudowoodo is in fact scum.

But I'm not going to take the fall after they flip scum.

I'm incredibly unhappy that THEY are the ones who know I am conftown, because I think they're scum and obviously scum knowing I'm conftown is less-than-optimal.

Yet the fact is I am conftown REGARDLESS of Sudowoodo. Them flipping scum won't change that I'm conftown.

I was PLANNING to not actually be blatant about this, but you know what they say about the best-laid plans.

So deal with it.

SEE
I'M ALREADY CONFTOWN
THE LEGACY OF MASTINA MISREADING ME CONTINUES

[Sudowoodo]

mastina seriously haven't you learned like
anything
from when we played together?

[Sudowoodo]

now shes misreading me as well tho

ok but generally everytime I've played with town!mastina where I was town with her she misreads me. In fact the only time she townread me was when I claimed neutral survivor as soon as the game started

pedit: Cheeky can be town

[Sudowoodo]

I'm super salty at you if you're town Maria.

Why?

Sorry I meant Ali. <3

Expect Mail soon
I need to bounce back with Pine a bit first

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky this game just happens to have a lot of inventions so what

[Sudowoodo]

like you're atleast super fucking clear because I don't think this is your wolfmeta but mastina is town
you're right about there being a wolf in LLD/Wis though!

[Sudowoodo]

um yes

[Sudowoodo]

thats towards cheeky btw

[Sudowoodo]

I'M GOING TO USE THAT MAIL FIGHT ME WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN ME GOING BOOM?
I'M OKAY WITH THAT ACTUALLY.

[Sudowoodo]

I am still worried about who gave me a letter to send out but I have a hunch that

everyone

got a letter they could send out.

pedit: mastina is conftown cuz I have a n0 inno on her!

[Sudowoodo]

mastina people just believe I have a n0 inno on you except for cheeky cuz she's being bad lul

[Sudowoodo]

They handled this play incorrectly and like a moron if they're town.

you're probably right
except you should know I don't do this stuff as wolf really I don't.

[Sudowoodo]

They handled this play incorrectly and like a moron if they're town.

you're probably right
except you should know I don't do this stuff as wolf really I don't.

why should I know this? It's not like we talk about mafia. You act like I should

know

shit when you used the exact same excuse as scum.
Anyway Wisdom and Cheeky you're both town let us focus on more protective matters I think there is a great chance mastina and sudo are scum. Do you think I'm dumb if so why and where should we focus?

Because this isn't stuff you see me do as a wolf
like have you ever seen me done this kind of stupid shit as a wolf?
really now.

[Sudowoodo]

ok everyone got mail good to know.

[Sudowoodo]

They handled this play incorrectly and like a moron if they're town.

you're probably right
except you should know I don't do this stuff as wolf really I don't.

why should I know this? It's not like we talk about mafia. You act like I should

know

shit when you used the exact same excuse as scum.
Anyway Wisdom and Cheeky you're both town let us focus on more protective matters I think there is a great chance mastina and sudo are scum. Do you think I'm dumb if so why and where should we focus?

Because this isn't stuff you see me do as a wolf
like have you ever seen me done this kind of stupid shit as a wolf?
really now.

the more you act like you can't do stuff as wolf when you got a scummy for best scum is laughable.

can't is different from don't.
I can do a lot of things.
I don't do a lot of things, and this just so happens to be one of those things

[Sudowoodo]

also the real winner of don corleone this year is RADIANTCOWBELLS as Prince Lyon like come on me and MoI should have never have won that tbh

[Sudowoodo]

that fact we did win it is actually ironic in that the true winner doesn't have to deal with a curse of having a banner

[Sudowoodo]

FUCK I WANNA GO BACK TO VOTING WISDOM
BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MY VOTE OFF OF MARIA

I normally loathe the thought of being a double-voter but DAMN would I appreciate that capacity right now.

Keep it in Claire plz ty

[Sudowoodo]

(Wis we're town together omg!!!!!!)

[Sudowoodo]

hi fam

vote claire!

[Sudowoodo]

we obvtowned ourselves within all of these pages do it for justice!

[Sudowoodo]

RedFlavor vote claire!

[Sudowoodo]

oh wait you don't know who that is
RedFlavor type in a MariaR vote she's a wolf!

[Sudowoodo]

mastina I want to vote someone not you
Who should it be?

Sudowoodo

YOU ARE FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME READ THE GAME AND VOTE CLAIRE

[Sudowoodo]

buddy me

TRYING TO SORT YOU IS NOT BUDDYING CLAIRE

[Sudowoodo]

Alisae called me scum when I basically blew them off and they have no meta to support that comes from scum me. Ali and mastina both need to be strung up.

S O U L R E A D S

[Sudowoodo]

considering it's likely scum don't have day talk my lynch might not be so bad. Plus it makes sud and mastina get lynched

where did you even get that information?

[Sudowoodo]

Hope you're having a laugh behind your screen ali love it when I tell you how excited I am for this game and scum you just comes in and power lynches my ass.

[Sudowoodo]

> looking at this playerlist
"wow this playerlist looks awesome let's hydra with Pine"
> Game Starts
"I think I made a terrible terrible mistake"

[Sudowoodo]

I can name one person who mastina can't read on this playerlist
and they have 3 banners
<-----

[Sudowoodo]

I have an offsite game I should be working on I'ma go do that and let the thread breathe

[Sudowoodo]

Actually tbh I might start refusing to play with mastina if she keeps on pushing me as wolf every game I know its not intentional and tbf I like being IC'd but its not fun to deal with it really isn't.

pedit: Its MU style. Mastina is aligned with the town.

[Sudowoodo]

Pine hasn't posted since I came up and basically took a huge shit on the thread.

[Sudowoodo]

but yush I love Eddie Cane I just need people to help me push my read now I will go design YGO uPick on special place goodbye lovely people
pedit: omg I'm an easy read!!!!!!!!

[Sudowoodo]

Actually Pine was posting the whole time Alibae hasn't posted yet

[Sudowoodo]

ok I'm done seriously I'ma go design I need to go do that but I probably won't be able to stop posting even though I should.

pedit: no comment Eddie

[Sudowoodo]

I think I said all I need to say about the green peek but mastina is lock cleared.

[Sudowoodo]

I wouldn't put it past ali after a certain game to do anything to win so that's my mistake.

ooooooh boy
should we like only hydra with each other for now on?
Or like call a D1 truce or something?
Becuase like, this isn't personal I don't know why you think it is

Like do you want me to rep out?

[Sudowoodo]

I wouldn't put it past ali after a certain game to do anything to win so that's my mistake.

ooooooh boy
should we like only hydra with each other for now on?
Or like call a D1 truce or something?
Becuase like, this isn't personal I don't know why you think it is

Like do you want me to rep out?

I don't have an issue with you. I just don't respect you as a mafia player because you've crossed certain lines that I wouldn't. Idm if you play games I just wouldn't put it past you to certain things.
Like I have no issue with you at all doing what you're doing you're playing to your wincon

How DARE you try to ml me ali!

is it because of questionalby enthical things I did in a game where those things didn't really matter since you were going to hand me a win?

cuz if so ok

tbh I kind of feel like just lurking out now so I'm just gonna...
do that.

[Sudowoodo]

(if it wasn't clear I care a lot more about Claire then I care about this game)

[Sudowoodo]

{LLD, Claire, Kokichi} is the solve btw.

[Sudowoodo]

oh sorry I'm supposed to be lurking out mybad.

[Sudowoodo]

{LLD, Claire, Kokichi} is the solve btw.

If I told you that you were right about me, would you believe me?

What if I said you're not good at mafia

[Sudowoodo]

thats ok tho you don't really respect my opinion so...

[Sudowoodo]

Whoever got me should be a lie detector, if the mod knows anything about me.

In the event that there could be a lie detector this game, everyone should make a post that only says "I am aligned with the town."

I am aligned with the town

PLEASE DO NOT TOWNREAD THIS

[Sudowoodo]

thats ok tho you don't really respect my opinion so...

Oh, you're alisae. Are you really that hurt by what I said to you that game? it's okay, I think you're a good person and player. Just what you did was underhanded.

Yeah I had a hard time sleeping tbh

[Sudowoodo]

ok you can go back to catching up sry.

[Sudowoodo]

Yume vote MariaR please ty

[Sudowoodo]

Actually I'ma make one more post explaining this solve and then go back to designing game

[Sudowoodo]

Yume vote MariaR please ty

I would, but my partner(s) don't trust your motivations.

oh my n0 inno aka mastina?
Yeah they're voting MariaR you should sheep them

[Sudowoodo]

plus mastina can't even read me Yume you know this everytime she pushes me I'm pratically mod confirmed town
You want to know what mastina CAN reliably do?
Misread me when I'm town.
Do you want me to dig through all of the times mastina misread me? Because I can do that just to prove a point.

[Sudowoodo]

plus mastina can't even read me Yume you know this everytime she pushes me I'm pratically mod confirmed town
You want to know what mastina CAN reliably do?
Misread me when I'm town.
Do you want me to dig through all of the times mastina misread me? Because I can do that just to prove a point.

Hey Yume are you going to read this post and sheep me or what

[Sudowoodo]

Like Yume there's no fucking talking to you and I generally don't like playing with you ever since I got screwed over in DRv3 cause you didn't submit a single fucking action
I am trying to tell you to fucking do something but you never fucking want to do it and it is frustrating as all fuck
meanwhile, unlike mastina, I have the wolfteam nailed down to a fucking T
And instead you listen to people like mastina who literally cannot read me for the life of her and you fucking know this.

Like what's the fucking point of playing with you if you're going to be like this.
I really don't get it.

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky you'll stay on a bit to see the game solving post right?
Though I doubt you'll care since you only really care about your own reads, but I swear, this is GOOD CONTENT

[Sudowoodo]

This game is really fucking easy and you should sheep my reads here is why

There is a Wolf in LLD and Wis.

LLD starts the game out pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim. This is a type of push I don't expect LLD to make on a wolfbuddy. So if LLD is a wolf, EDDIE CANE is probably town.
Basically all they are really pushing is the claim, and they are talked out of it by Wis.
However I think the nature of the push was agenda based and the way backed out seemed really unnatural like they knew all of the answers so they could afford to do that. Like that whole way she backed out kind of just looked really unnatural to me.
This is why I think LLD is a wolf over Wis.
Wis and LLD's interactions could potentially be seen as TvS or SvT mostly because I feel like Wis is being extremely tame with how he's sorting LLD. Like this kind of tameness kind of actually makes me feel extremely awkward. This is probably just Wis paranoia, but either way I think LLD is a wolf because of their Eddie Cane push.

Kokichi is a wolf

500 - Kind of feels like a wolf joining in on a popular trend.
501 - Is extremely posturey and scummy
502 - is complete scummy bullshit
512 through 514 - Is the most fakest townslip I have ever seen in my mafia career please lynch this. Like its not even town motivated, Kokichi is 100% trying to get a clear off of dumbtelling. Its really fucking stupid please lynch it. Like these posts are not towny please do not townread them.

There is a wolf in Me and MariaR

MariaR is the best player to read me on this playerlist who has actual HISTORY with me. I've rand wolf against her enough times for her to get a good grasp on how to read me, and She has randed wolf against me and I have a good grasp on how to read her. This is something we both agree on.
If there is a player who can accurately read me on D1, it is her.

So when we both WOLFREAD each other like this, one of us is potentially a wolf.

Her first 4 posts, mostly 89 kind of feel extremely empty and low energy for her.
249 Is honestly extremely wolfy. Cheeky voted LLD without really considering the context of what I was asking LLD to do.
From here I'm trying to somewhat poke Claire, but she is being extremely uncooperative, and I don't really get why?
Like its fairly early in the game, so it would be natural to try to try to poke her and get in her head.
But instead she gives me things like 269 which is really ???
and things like 293 really comes off as she knows the answers and like, I'm still trying to cooperate with her and sort her here but the fact that she just doesn't want to comes off as really wierd. Like she's already asking for a 1v1 while I'm trying to sort her, how can she possibly have a grasp on my alignment that's so fucking strong this early when I'm just trying to scumhunt.
306 She asks for a case here which doesn't really make sense because I'm trying to sort her not push her out as a read. I'm trying to scumhunt and sort not lynch.
341 Okay first off, it is impossible for mastina to be a wolf, and secondly, wolves for the most part don't go around faking n0 green peeks on their buddies.

403 Why would you know this? Because you can read me girl and you know it
409 continues the agenda based read.
and so on and so on

Like the reads she's presenting here are really agenda based and unnatural, it doesn't come across as Claire trying to hunt it just feels like Claire is cornered and she knows this.

496 I have never seen town!Claire make these kind of posts where she literally will not care about her vote will go.

Spoiler: Claire only

tbh I have no memory of you saying you were excited for the game tbh. I hardly remember talking to you about it, I have the memory of a goldfish so you'll probably be able to prove me wrong here.

Now
Mastina is my n0 Inno
Yume is purdy town
Cheeky is fucking obvious town with how they pushed mastina and wis
Redflavor with his cheeky concerns are probably town
EDDIE CANE is probably town

Bee needs to do more but I lean town on his first few posts
Lovebird's posting feels towny?
Mom needs more data and so

I've solved the game can we go home now?

[Sudowoodo]

Very disappointing catch up scum Kokichi.

THANK YOU CHEEKYTEEKY

[Sudowoodo]

I do trust her
I think she is town
I strongly believe that she cannot read me correctly.

[Sudowoodo]

Emoticons are not scummy Kokichi

pedit: 100% Bee

[Sudowoodo]

Well, there was a game where she nailed all the scum, yet people refused to listen and it ended up in a big fat loss for my faction.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68256

So I am not gonna let people go there and say she can't read people, because she damn well can.

YUME YOU ARE STUCK IN THE FUCKING PAST ITS WHY I DON'T ENJOY PLAYING WITH YOU

[Sudowoodo]

Like she cannot read me
She is ignoring the posts where I say this because she knows its true

its like her literal purpose in mafia games with me is to make my life harder.

[Sudowoodo]

Well, there was a game where she nailed all the scum, yet people refused to listen and it ended up in a big fat loss for my faction.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68256

So I am not gonna let people go there and say she can't read people, because she damn well can.

YUME YOU ARE STUCK IN THE FUCKING PAST ITS WHY I DON'T ENJOY PLAYING WITH YOU

Well, I thought we are bffs Nebby. What changed?

a lot...

[Sudowoodo]

Please read my 559 and place down a vote please or engage with it.

I will support Kokichi, Claire, or LLD wagons.

Thank you.

[Sudowoodo]

Yume you don't care about my posting or anyone's posting anymore tbh.
Like its part of the reason why I don't like playing with you.
You don't work with people you're just an obsticle getting in town's way like right now.
Like idc about your partner's reads.

You should vote with me over mastina because ywall are voting what is probably town.

pedit: OH GET OVER IT THERE CAN BE MULTIPLE INVENTIONS IN A GAME, TRUST ME I AM A GOOD MOD ITS DEFINITELY IN KEELY'S RANGE NOW PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT THE FUCKING CLAIMS.

[Sudowoodo]

Please read my 559 and place down a vote please or engage with it.

I will support Kokichi, Claire, or LLD wagons.

Thank you.

Masonize: Alisae

If this fails and alisae is scum, then one of Claire or LLD is scum. Likely LLD since I think Maki is towny from her responses.

Spicy

[Sudowoodo]

Why the fuck is Lovebird town, Sudo?

I feel like from their posting they're trying to sort people and figure out their motivations, but its like fairly weak (hence grouped up with Bee and momrangal)

[Sudowoodo]

Thats fair take on it but a lot of the posting I've seen from Lovebird is really surface level.
Them moving their vote a lot without any real effect or reason attached to it feels like what I've seen from them.

[Sudowoodo]

Thats fair take on it but a lot of the posting I've seen from Lovebird is really surface level.
Them moving their vote a lot without any real effect or reason attached to it feels like what I've seen from them.

I mean, that could be true, but it feels like they would have had more to do with how explosive the beginning of this game was.

you would...
be surprised...

[Sudowoodo]

Pine in the house, bitched. I'm only down...*check page count* TWENTY-TWO PAGES?

Fuck you people. Oh right. This is why I asked Alisae to take the lead this game. I'll begin catch-up.

[Sudowoodo]

Bitches* obv obv

[Sudowoodo]

I want to townread Sudowoodo more but everytime Ali is scum I townread em

And this LLD/Wis conjecture was weird

Like, I get the LLD scumread
But Ali claims theyre townreading me
Why assume I am scum if LLD isn't instead of considering we're just both town

Pine is telling me on discord he TRs you.
Honestly Wis, I respect your wolfgame as much as you respect mine.
Hence why I'm feeling paranoid about you.
Like you feel town, I honestly just expect more aggresion from you and it bugs me?
Surely there is a reason for this.

--

Alisae and Maria can you guys like push other people so I can evaluate the 2 of you better.
You 2 pushing each other makes this more difficult oddly enough

no

[Sudowoodo]

[Sudowoodo]

Oh, and I forgot to mention that despite me saying multiple times I don't trust people unless proven (because I trusted scum twice and allowed them to manipulate me), you still ask me to trust you because hurr-durr. How do I know you're not scum buddying/trying to manipulate me? Tell me that.

@Nebby

mastina pushed me
therefore I am an IC

[Sudowoodo]

In all seriousness Yume I've obvtowned myself by now but if you actually tried to READ me you would see that.

[Sudowoodo]

In all seriousness Yume I've obvtowned myself by now but if you actually tried to READ me you would see that.

You also know I am not good at reads on D1 and D2......

Okay then you can sheep me because unlike mastina, I lynch wolves

[Sudowoodo]

I did? Huh that's news to me
oh well you should sheep me anyways because I lynch wolves.

pedit: oh yeah let me ask keely about that

[Sudowoodo]

cause I don't have any PTs.

[Sudowoodo]

yeah ok it didn't work

[Sudowoodo]

is this the part where Kokichi tries to fake a masonizer guiilty
cuz um
I have an answer for that.

[Sudowoodo]

I don't think certain parties will LIKE my answer
but it is definitely an answer.

pedit: LMAO

[Sudowoodo]

Wis atleast you're not dealing with Kiana.
RC pushed Kiana Kaslana a lot and Kiana called him a misogynist

[Sudowoodo]

Knowing who Kiana was, it was pretty funny

[Sudowoodo]

Nico I can do it for you.

[Sudowoodo]

Would you like me to?

[Sudowoodo]

mkay Cheeky expect Mail.

[Sudowoodo]

I'm not going to twist the truth relax

[Sudowoodo]

that would get me lynched Yume

[Sudowoodo]

I have other things I need to tell Cheeky tbh ur sweet juicy information is just sweets

[Sudowoodo]

lolno

[Sudowoodo]

Hmmm. Well roger that. And yes you're right Ali, sometimes it's nice getting help looking into things xd

there we goooooooo <3

[Sudowoodo]

LMAO

[Sudowoodo]

Have a fuckin growlithe burn me the fuck down

[Sudowoodo]

Yume you need to flip the chessboard around and look from his PoV

[Sudowoodo]

Can we get more Maria votes now?

[Sudowoodo]

I can't even catch crumbs like that I'm surprised Cheeky got it

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky, I'm not so sure Nico is Town either, with all that entails.

Ali and I don't fully agree on this point.

Pine

(Still catching up on what I missed overnight tho)

Sorrrrrrryyyyy

[Sudowoodo]

Yume we’re not going to lynch you over actual wolves.

[Sudowoodo]

/done talking to Nico

Does anyone know why Momrangal also votes me for voting mastina

Of course you are, you've gotta continue your ego trip, after all.

Wis has actually been fairly reasonable!
It’s actually kind of disturbing

[Sudowoodo]

Yume its ok I’ll make sure town wins this even if I have to drag you kicking and screaming

[Sudowoodo]

When Sud flips scum I expect mastina to be next in line.

Not gonna happen.

I mean, yes, I think Sudowoodo is in fact scum.

But I'm not going to take the fall after they flip scum.

I'm incredibly unhappy that THEY are the ones who know I am conftown, because I think they're scum and obviously scum knowing I'm conftown is less-than-optimal.

Yet the fact is I am conftown REGARDLESS of Sudowoodo. Them flipping scum won't change that I'm conftown.

I was PLANNING to not actually be blatant about this, but you know what they say about the best-laid plans.

So deal with it.

SEE
I'M ALREADY CONFTOWN
THE LEGACY OF MASTINA MISREADING ME CONTINUES

Mastina

This wasn't even Pine.

That should tell you something.

[Sudowoodo]

Scum: Sudowoodo, Wisdom

Seriously, be worse.

This is opposite.

[Sudowoodo]

Scum: Sudowoodo, Wisdom

Seriously, be worse.

This is opposite.

And it is opposite because.....?

Wis and I are Town (I think, I'm at like 90% on Wis)

Pine

[Sudowoodo]

No ur baby is important please take care of your baby

[Sudowoodo]

Mastina
Nici

Kokichi

Sudowoodo
Momomen
Wisdom?
LLD
Beeboy

Cheeky

Red
Lovebird
MariaR

Why the bolded

[Sudowoodo]

I also feel that's too high for Nico

its fine I think

[Sudowoodo]

Mom can you vote MariaR
Bee can you vote Claire

[Sudowoodo]

Scum: Sudowoodo, Wisdom

Seriously, be worse.

This is opposite.

And it is opposite because.....?

Wis and I are Town (I think, I'm at like 90% on Wis)

Pine

And why are you town?

And don't give me some bs about how she always misreads you and how I should trust you without reservations while also claiming others shouldn't trust me so readily.

Why are you going to ask a question you don’t care about the answer to?

Seriously I don’t think you care about the answer you’re just gonna tunnel regardless
Hence why I am making this town win by kicking and screaming if I have to

[Sudowoodo]

What an interesting development

[Sudowoodo]

Mom wierd question
Should I care about Kokichi’s Masonize.

[Sudowoodo]

Bee play the fucking game

[Sudowoodo]

Mom wierd question
Should I care about Kokichi’s Masonize.

Answer should reach you soon

Kay

[Sudowoodo]

I can name one person who mastina can't read on this playerlist
and they have 3 banners
<-----

We are actually two people mastina can't read.

And we still only have three banners between us

[Sudowoodo]

UNVOTE:

[Sudowoodo]

Kay

[Sudowoodo]

It’ll become self-evident

Pedit: oh lolno

[Sudowoodo]

Hey Kokichi, I see you on, can we talk?

[Sudowoodo]

Masonize: Alisae

If this fails and alisae is scum, then one of Claire or LLD is scum. Likely LLD since I think Maki is towny from her responses.

Kokichi: I have a very strong gut feeling this is a Mason crumb. Someone else sent us a message claiming Mason, not with you. Claiming is totally worth blowing your cover, 100%.

[Sudowoodo]

Masonize: Alisae

If this fails and alisae is scum, then one of Claire or LLD is scum. Likely LLD since I think Maki is towny from her responses.

Kokichi: I have a very strong gut feeling this is a Mason crumb. Someone else sent us a message claiming Mason, not with you. Claiming is totally worth blowing your cover, 100%.

This is me officially caught up, btw. Alisae's unvote a bit ago was when we put 2 and 2 together on this.

[Sudowoodo]

^Piiiiiiiiiine

[Sudowoodo]

He’ll see it.

[Sudowoodo]

I don't think we should discuss the legitimacy of a mason claim :/

Hush. Mason counterclaims catch us 2 scum.

[Sudowoodo]

@Kokichi Results?

Nervous?

[Sudowoodo]

Wis it’ll be self-evident in a bit I promise

[Sudowoodo]

Masonize: Alisae

If this fails and alisae is scum, then one of Claire or LLD is scum. Likely LLD since I think Maki is towny from her responses.

Kokichi: I have a very strong gut feeling this is a Mason crumb. Someone else sent us a message claiming Mason, not with you. Claiming is totally worth blowing your cover, 100%.

This is me officially caught up, btw. Alisae's unvote a bit ago was when we put 2 and 2 together on this.

omg kokichi atleast tell us you read this post

[Sudowoodo]

Lieing is not optimal here btw.

[Sudowoodo]

OMG KOKICHI I HAVE BOMBS TO DROP

[Sudowoodo]

DON’T FUCKING DO THIS TO ME

[Sudowoodo]

Like answer that in the most optimal way possible and you do the least amount of damage and I would prefer not the whole story but Nico’s reaction is telling me that I should just do it.