In post 778, Momrangal wrote:Starting off with his points.
Moms scum because.
She shot without reading.
She shot randomly and someone who's strong town.
I called him scum first and said he was using IIOA.
points one and two have already been disproven and he went from "made a random shot without reading " to "having shot without reading most of the game " to "randomly shot and only having read 2/3 of the game"
This "change in what I said" only happened in your mind. The only words that I used were that you "hadn't read much", and I would posit that only having read 10 pages out of a 14 page game isn't really much of the game.
He tried to defend himself with Google's definition of Analysis and upon me posting what IIOA actually is, he threw up some self meta and tried to explain why IIOA is a bad tell here by bringing up multi.
Again, this is Mom saying what I've done in a dismissive tone while not acting countering any of it. This is what Mom has been doing a lot and in my mind it's a big red flag.
I will admit that his point that scum need to hunt the other team but it doesn't invalidate IIOA being a scum tell in this setting. Scum still don't want to tip off other teams and so while they are hunting they still wouldn't be all out about it the way town would.
But the reason you said IIoA was scummy is that it "
tends to indicate mafia members attempting to look active but are failing to fake genuine scumhunting." Now you're claiming that my IIoA is me trying not to look too active so that I won't tip off other teams? You've entirely flipped on the reason of what you claim my IIoA makes me scummy for.
He also continues to remain defensive and got more aggressive only after I continued to push him
I mean is this even a tell or just stating facts
and is spinning w story about how me being bp makes my entrance make more sense when a large part of confirmed town made similar entrances
This is largely misinterpreting what I've said - my point was that it counters the main argument for early, brave shots not being scum. The claim is that "it's towny because scum wouldn't want to attract attention for a quick shot on themselves", but you being BP counters that. Also, the fact that confirmed town made similar entrances doesn't mean that scum can't. Also also there was generally a large difference between quickshooting town and you - most of them gave no reason and basically admitted to trollshooting, whereas you made a big point to say that "wow eddie was pinging hard".
In post 781, Momrangal wrote:Next let's talk about his behavior.
So far his posts are showing that he is being self concious and continues to try and paint himself as a victim in this whole thing. He is trying to Appeal to logic and is going "I can't be scum because ____"
Oh man, logic? In mafia? What the fuck does "appealing to logic" even mean? How's it a bad thing? This is vastly confusing.
And is appealing to emotion by going "OHMAIGOD SHE SHOT A STRONG PLAYER IF TOWN (idk who tf Eddie is)
I can't really say anything other than this is clearly not what I've been doing and bringing up that Eddie has been known for being strong as town quite publicly due to the recent team mafia is relevant to scum wanting to kill them, is all. Like, this is misrepresentation and exaggeration and some other words ending in "ation".
and is kinda active lurking in some sense that, he's trying to look active by engaging but isn't trying to make people look at him all weird keeping himself away from the line of fire.
First off, that's not active lurking. Active lurking refers to posting a lot but not actually posting any content that is readable in any way, which is objectively wrong. Also, the phrase "look active by engaging" is odd since engaging is definitely a way of being active, it's almost like she's said "he's trying to look active by being active". Third off, explain how I'm keeping myself away from the line of fire since, like most things in your "case", you haven't actually explained it.
He also went from soft pushing me to a hardcore OMGUS which is usually town.
But here's the thing. He keeps on saying "I may be biased but..." which gives him an out when I do flip town.
He is already trying to not take responsibility for me flipping town which doesn't make any sense if he is town here.
Lmao okay you're putting future actions in my mouth here. Do you really think, after pushing your death through at least one BP shot and constantly campaigning for it, I'm going to try and give myself an out and slip away without taking responsibility? Like, you're using one tiny phrase I've used to accuse me of planning to do something that every other action of mine strongly implies I'm not going to do.
So creating a strategy for the town that doesn't involve random deaths is trying too hard?