Echo Bay Grits SEO [game over]

[Vaxkiller]

Vaxkiller pauses too!

[Vaxkiller]

But i so want to shoot taly for the lulz

[Vaxkiller]

WWVS?

Who would Varsoon shoot?

[Vaxkiller]

Shoot: Gorkington

I'm going to be dead by the time I'm home from work tomorrow so I want somebody fun to talk to in the dead thread.

Have a good night everyone!

You fucker

[Vaxkiller]

rofl

[Vaxkiller]

Anyone who shoots creature is scum

[Vaxkiller]

Im a try a thing.

[Vaxkiller]

Mecmennos shot was terrible, someone should shoot there.

[Vaxkiller]

Not yet. Were trying a thing.

[Vaxkiller]

StefanB is town too.

[Vaxkiller]

Meh, your town

[Vaxkiller]

Kill snarky.

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I feel like I am going ot be the one. THe one guy to lauh at you all that _I_ was right!

[Vaxkiller]

YES! He didnt claim BP, and he MUST be BP.

[Vaxkiller]

He probably thought it would be scummy to admit as such. There are no other roles besides BP and Strongman according to mod post.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm so excited!

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although, he WAS a traitor, so unfortunately we can't clear anyone for this.

Speak for yourself, I'm claiming ALL of the town cred.

[Vaxkiller]

bah

[Vaxkiller]

jk

[Vaxkiller]

DONT SHOOT MOM, will talk about this later.

[Vaxkiller]

Im still not really seeing it with Creature

I actually think this is kinda towny. Creature is obv town and if mom were scum they would just sheep that read and kill creature tonight. Looking through the past few pages and thier reads arent great, but Id like to do a small iso dive later tonight.

I mean I missed the BP claim, but why does that make them scum?

[Vaxkiller]

sigh

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Well, thanks Screen. You saved me reading.

[Vaxkiller]

I think random midget is scum, and davsto is pretty suspicious ont he whole momrangle thing.

Also. In waht world does not_mafia still ahve his shot?

[Vaxkiller]

You mean you exspect him to be very trigger happy?

I would expect him to come in here to shoot a town read for the "lulz". The fact taht he has not has no bearing on his alignment however, just wondering why.

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No, were shooting screen again, not mom

[Vaxkiller]

If mom flips scum ill draw a picture

[Vaxkiller]

I didn't like your (davsto) banter with random midget, and it looked like you were setting up shooting mom. It rubbed me the wrong way. ALso I wanted to look into why we knew about moms BP (how the claim came about, because knowing this info seemed towny to me as well)

I just looked into right now BTW, and I like how it came about. If someone does shoot mom and for some weird reason they DO flip scum, I would say there would be suspicion around "the worst" (as well as the possibility of me as well I guess!)

[Vaxkiller]

Screen. Give us soem reads

[Vaxkiller]

I didn't like your (davsto) banter with random midget, and it looked like you were setting up shooting mom. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Okay I really don't get what you're saying here. The bit you're talking about is where I said "I wanna shoot Mom but because she's BP I want someone else to agree to do it after me to avoid me wasting a shot so hey anyone else", randomidget said "yes please me I'll do it" and then I made a pun and shot Mom.

I'm really confused by what you're saying because, well, it was "setting up" shooting Mom because I scumread her. But it wasn't like I was being covert or shady as your wording seems to be implying, I was literally getting someone else to agree to shoot too and under the circumstances (her being x-shot BP) it makes a lot of sense. I am confused by your issue with it and the way your post describing it is worded.

(On a side note, what

is

scummy to me is that right now random is not following through despite having posted onsite since my shot on Mom went through. I won't hound it much until he posts in game without shooting, though. That would be worse.)

Maybe im not explaining this correctly. It sounded rehearsed. RM has 3 posts, and he comes in and says "let me do it".

Altho, one flaw I can now see is that we don't know if scum has day chat.

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I'm less sure about screen now too.

Id rather see someone shoot RM first over screen.

[Vaxkiller]

Oh, BTW someoen has to shoot not_mafia at some point for 2 reasons:

1. We will NEVER be able to read his alignment.
2. Even if he is town, he will throw the game by shooting someone who says a magic word

[Vaxkiller]

I need some entertainment tonight, but my shot is gone.

SOmoene shoot random midget.

I stake my reputation on it.

[Vaxkiller]

Who around who has a shot?

[Vaxkiller]

Shoot Random Midget dude

[Vaxkiller]

scum probs blew shots early yeh
sup

Could someone shoot Mom please? I don't have strongman so I can't really. I'll explain how I figured that they're bp and how it links with them being scum in a bit when I have a little more time.

Actually scratch that. Strongmans will be targeted by scum because they're the biggest risk for any BP so don't out yourself.

Anyone want to join me in shooting Mom by shooting them after me? Ty in advance

im down

Could someone shoot Mom please? I don't have strongman so I can't really. I'll explain how I figured that they're bp and how it links with them being scum in a bit when I have a little more time.

Actually scratch that. Strongmans will be targeted by scum because they're the biggest risk for any BP so don't out yourself.

Anyone want to join me in shooting Mom by shooting them after me? Ty in advance

im down

oh that's a shame i hope you feel better soon

dammit
davsto

shoot: momrangal

Looka t this

[Vaxkiller]

WAHT IN THE FUCK

[Vaxkiller]

FUCKING KILL HEBICHAN WITH ABANDON!

[Vaxkiller]

CANCEL TACTICAL NUKE ON RM AND KILL HEBI FIRST

[Vaxkiller]

KILLLLLLL HEBICHAN!

[Vaxkiller]

NEW ORDER:

ANYONE WHO DOES NOT SHOOT HEBICHAN IS SCUM.

[Vaxkiller]

Varsoon [hardly done anything]

I mean.... hes dead.

[Vaxkiller]

You are forgetting random midget (who is scum) and not_mafia (who could be either)

but HAS to die

because they will shoot bad tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

Random would be a approved shot, and I would like an arch shot too, becuase I feel it would prove some ppl.

[Vaxkiller]

I guess my scumread now would be BBMolla. I don't really buy the PGO claim.

Ausuka, are you anything other than a dayvig/BP?

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Yes. Just make sure about you. I assumed bbmolla was joking and found it non AI.

[Vaxkiller]

Ico is so tempting, because if he flips scum it tells us so much.

[Vaxkiller]

It's times like this I wish I could "favorite" a post, or have some system of cataloging posts for later viewing and reference.

[Vaxkiller]

A few of Tally's and someone (was it you?) wrote down a list of everyone who shot and at who and the result.

[Vaxkiller]

I have some gamestate thoughts before we shoot anyone else. Go ahead and give intent tho

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I think there were way better shots for random to take if he wanted to take a townie out and I agree with gamma. Probs town.

My other thoughts: People that have waited to take thier shot are pretty suspicious. Making a pool of people that are "acceptable" for people to vig comes with its own problems. Those problem being anyone left with a vig can just choose the town targets in that pool. But tahts also good for us... if we flip the right person.

Not mafia. I thought about this alot. With us determining his death, it would have been super easy for scum to come in and shoot their partner. I'm highly suspicious of whoever did that (im a little drunk and forget who it was.. look it up)

With game state we ahve a slight problem. Scum will likely start falling in line with shots and wait for our "approval". So when we start listing people who "look scummy" scum will step right up and shoot a town member of that group. Please do not shoot from the hip tomorrow morning. Its going to be tempting. SOMEONE will probably shoot first but please stay calm and think about your next shot.

There is a chance I will be dead, along with some other good townies. Take a deep breath and think about what you would do as scum. Talk about it and then choose wisely.

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Taly? Naw. That one post was kinda sketchy where he said he was wrong about his reads.... i didnt even realize he was.

I think and ico shot tells us more, or shoot whoever shot not_mafia... because it was such an ez bus.

Random midget also acceptable

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Light ganskis prolly a long shot.. it just wories me

[Vaxkiller]

Naw, shoot ico. It tells us much more than any other shot.

I dont get scum!gamma reads.

[Vaxkiller]

Sorry for being a lurkbutt.

A lot of the players I was vibing hard are dead now and I think I'm a high NK priority so...enthusiasm is dead af

I kinda doubt it.

[Vaxkiller]

Who the fuck is holding thier shot?

Kill them tomorrow. It the ONLY allowable kill. NO ONE SHOOTS TOMORROW. We talk.

[Vaxkiller]

I say shoot ico for the associatives it gives us.

[Vaxkiller]

In fact. I demand it!

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Yes. I'm worried scum talked about shooting not_mafia in scum chat (assuming they have day talk) as he was going to die no matter what... may as well get some town cred.

[Vaxkiller]

But, as you say, not mafia does come from outta no where too. I htink his shot was the same way... someone mentioned his name in vain and he killed them.

[Vaxkiller]

Who are we waiting on? Shoot Ico.

[Vaxkiller]

@MOD Does the scum team have daytalk. Does the scum team have a night kill.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax: From the signuptread: each night, each non-town faction will receive a kill to be performed by one of the non-traitor members;

Crap. I read through there and didn't see it.

[Vaxkiller]

Oh wait. The signup thread? I didn't read there.

[Vaxkiller]

Why's MOI scum? I don't like that push. He just got here, and we have an entire days worth of stuff from everyone else.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm gonna wait another hour, just to annoy you. :^)

wow
this feels a whole lot more like 4 hours then 1 hour

They have to ask their scum partner ico if its ok to kill them before they shoot.

[Vaxkiller]

...and the apathy level is going up again...

Of course. It is scums best interest to disconnect Town from the game and Town left the last shot in scum’s hands. Don’t personally buy the AtE you are laying on here but you probably know that given my read on you.

Vax

- are you going for a “Jungle Town” tell for not knowing this is mutilball? Because it isn’t working. Even I know we have multiple faction flips and I just sorta browsed prior to my replace in.

Soooo, I just checked the 1st page and the signup thread and I dont see anywhere where it says multiball. Are you just speculating because of the size?

Also, if your scum reading me you should just say so, because you would be the ONLY one.

[Vaxkiller]

Ramcius, Echo Bay citizen
Aristophanes, Echo Bay citizen
CheekyTeeky, Echo Bay citizen
Gorkington, Echo Bay citizen
Ankamius, Echo Bay citizen
Nexus, Echo Bay citizen
hyung, Echo Bay citizen
Varsoon, Echo Bay citizen
McMenno, Echo Bay citizen
Harambey180, Echo Bay citizen
Eddie Cane, Echo Bay citizen
Kokichi Oma, Echo Bay citizen
SnarkySnowman, Echo Bay Grits 1-shot bulletproof traitor
ooba, Echo Bay citizen
Almost50, Echo Bay citizen
Bins, Echo Bay citizen
Creature, Echo Bay citizen
hebichan, Echo Bay citizen
Not_Mafia, Echo Bay Munitions Co. goon
Sando, Echo Bay citizen
Nero Cain, Echo Bay citizen
Srceenplay, Echo Bay 1-shot bulletproof citizen
Momrangal, Echo Bay 1-shot bulletproof citizen
Chickadee, Echo Bay citizen
randomidget, Echo Bay 1-shot bulletproof citizen

Are you saying its multiball because grtis are one team and Munitions Co is the other team?

[Vaxkiller]

Well shit I guess that makes sense.

[Vaxkiller]

Suddenly a few people seem a whole lot scummier.

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While I do agree with an Ico shot as they're quite scummy, I see the point here. Vax still hasn't answered this - what associatives would shooting Ico give us? Why are you advocating the kill seemingly entirely on the associatives rather than any scumread?

It's somewhere in my iso, ill dig it up later... or at least I point to where it is in my iso. Wait on the kill and Ill get it to you tonight.

[Vaxkiller]

I like that there is disagreement and hesitation here! Makes me feel like we got a live one!

[Vaxkiller]

I do see the likelihood that Iconeum is scum

ROFL

Just kill Ico then this if ico flips scum

From my memory there was some weirdness with ico that tied him to peeps, so it looked like a good shot. Really not sure about ico, just liked that he told us the most from flipping him. Wish I had more motivation too look it up right now....

Taly saying this jsut ties 1 more person to them

[Vaxkiller]

Jesus. more posts tonight than the previous 5 days.

[Vaxkiller]

Somethings going on.

[Vaxkiller]

PS I don't even fucking have a read on icon b/c he hasn't been playing the game but I sure do agree with vax that Taly is a way better shot

I didnt say he was the better shot

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Jesus. more posts tonight than the previous 5 days.

Somethings going on.

Because I'm here

And annoyed that people scumread me for NAI things

I have no read on you.

Is someoen pushing you?

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i'm slightly inebriated and legit irritated what's up

lol ok i got 20 min before i pass out, 6 beers in. Townr eading you up intil this point, but i like ur post.

Ughhh lemme lok up ico stuff

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willing to shoot in random/screen right now. Seeing how the first BP flipped scum, I'm willing to test the others as well. If the second flips scum too, we will have that information.

Props to those who are treating this like an actual game, but there are still far too many people alive for me to do this properly.

fp'd by thebrie

Referencing a non-mafia game (it was mish mash) to compare an actual game of mafia is the worst.
I also townread the worst.

I'd definitely be willing to take another shot at Screen here

the following players have not used their shot for day 1: Iconeum, randomidget, TheBrie, Archwing, wingedcatgirl

So i'm willing to shoot Screen.
Maybe Brie can take another shot at screen if he survives, otherwise maybe his shot can go to Random?

What do you think?

Rather shoot the actual scum in this game

Well, I'm gonna use my shot today anyway so might as well

shoot: screen

Shitty progression without reasoning

Afterwards he mentions me goign after him without reasoning.. looking up now.

[Vaxkiller]

Whoever replaced arch coudl be scum... and RM could be town (he was town) so that last association is gone

[Vaxkiller]

So if Ico flips it gives us Toragna scum (RM TOWN WHO IS DEAD TOWN) and someone else I think fromt eh last 2 pags that was protecting him

[Vaxkiller]

Its not just reasoning tho, he appears to be sayin "guys im going to do this..im going to do this.. any objections???? and when someone offers someone else he says NAW"

[Vaxkiller]

well i m passin out sry... ill try again tomorrow if we still havent shot anyone.

[Vaxkiller]

The mod lsited all the roles and it makes the most sense.

Thanks to scum for shooting taly. I didnt want to say it but I suspected him yesterday, and whoever else was scum reading him good on you (unless ur scum)

Toranga is the ONLY ACCEPTABLE SHOT at the moment. If he shoots me kill him. Association through ico... liked i talked about before N1

[Vaxkiller]

Aust town

[Vaxkiller]

Like his suggestion

[Vaxkiller]

Even after im right and toranga flips scum. We do this with a wait period after each shot. Right now ducky looks suspect as fuck REGARDLESS of the flip

[Vaxkiller]

Dude, you were way to eager with me

[Vaxkiller]

I walked in with my reads and you were like BANG, ok

[Vaxkiller]

Tell u what. As long as i right calling scum out. We keep plaing by vaxkillers rules. After that we go to voting

[Vaxkiller]

I was not never town reading u tho. I was always hesitant.

[Vaxkiller]

That was at the worst BTW

[Vaxkiller]

Aust TY for a strong town read

[Vaxkiller]

Yeah, i get taht way when im drunk sometimes.

Here it goes again:

The worst, I was never town reading you. I was always hesitant.

[Vaxkiller]

FUCK. Ok we go with Austs , plan

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I dunno I like that

[Vaxkiller]

Town reading wrost now

[Vaxkiller]

Aust/worst town reads so far.

[Vaxkiller]

Cool, talk about it

[Vaxkiller]

we have had exactly zero non-1-shot and exactly zero strongman flips
discuss

I think the "x" that is rolled is exponentially difficult to get a high number

[Vaxkiller]

The Shame!

[Vaxkiller]

Im writing some stuff.

[Vaxkiller]

Just may take a little bit. Nothing too in depth.

[Vaxkiller]

SO here is how I see it.

There were 3

scum

bad factions and now there are 2

Flips
2 grits goons plus a grit traitor 1 shot BP
1 munitions goon
???

So with 1 team completely wiped (I can only assume so. I cant imagine a 4 person scum team with 3 factions with what we have left... unless the rest of you are all scum, which is mind boggling) This gives us a good idea of what to expect with the other scum teams.

With 11 people alive, if the other teams follow the same exact setup, it means we would have 5 scum left (seems unlikely)

Im thinking the munitions scum team may consist of a goon + Strongman (and only be 2 ppl)
And the third team could be the same OR consist of 2 goons and a traitor.


I saw the SK theory and Im not sure waht to think about it at the moment. Is a strongman so good in this game where it would be balanced as a 1 person negative faction?

[Vaxkiller]

BTW im town reading Aust

[Vaxkiller]

altho... now taht we know there are multiple factions... nm

[Vaxkiller]

Yesterday ico didnt want to lynch him, but since he flipped grits, and grits team HAS to be no more. Now I dont know.

[Vaxkiller]

we have literally known that since snarky flipped [not not mafia since you never specified anti-town factions]

Known how?

[Vaxkiller]

I mean why wait?

[Vaxkiller]

Holy hell that was quick!

[Vaxkiller]

Oh yeah? Whats that?

[Vaxkiller]

I mean technically speaking I could be munitions or the third faction as well.

[Vaxkiller]

I put it out there so someone could look at my theory and correct it as needed, because i have no idea what setup balance is. Id like to know how many shots we get today before we vote to end and try for one more day tomorrow, but im not sure if that works either. If it's lylo tomorrow, scum/sk/whoever can just start shooting and win.

[Vaxkiller]

I still don't like how eager you were with taht shot.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm going to commune with my dead brethren. Shout loud my dead comrades!

[Vaxkiller]

I'm thinking we might need to kill you today.

[Vaxkiller]

I die tonight 100% tho

I mean I don't really believe this.

[Vaxkiller]

Why can't the SK be you?

You keep saying scum is going to kill you. Why?

Im going to assume scum means negative faction I guess.

What makes you believe the scum team to have a strongman kill?

Same as above

You keep saying your dying tonight without giving a reason, and why do you think if the SK kills you it outs them?

[Vaxkiller]

the worst is SK hunting. I just happen to think he might be the SK because of it. There's also a chance hes scum tho. I'm feeling more and more confident about this too.

[Vaxkiller]

I explained why I'm dying tonight, I'm probably drawing every night kill.

That makes no sense. Multiple factions teaming up to kill you?

[Vaxkiller]

I mean if the SK is (even in the game) is living tonight they will get a shot off, so what does scum care? Scum would like want the SK dead today so they are safe tonight.

[Vaxkiller]

What ever your doing is confusing the fuck out of me and I dont know waht to think.

[Vaxkiller]

I feel like only town could come up with such a convoluted plan, but there is other stuff I really dont like.

[Vaxkiller]

Gamma, what do you think about my thoughts on "the worst"

[Vaxkiller]

lol that shits flipping town since lovebird shot, wtf are those reads?

[Vaxkiller]

Hm. Probably gonna leave Lovebird for now. While multiball, so could be other scum, that's a hell of a risky shot to make imo.

I must say I've noticed a considerable pattern now of people suggesting those kinda strategies being scum so I'm just gonna

Shoot Austerity

Since the slot was pinging me a little anyway

Fucking awesome, 2 dead. Yeah I was wrong. Be careful for bussing. Davstos shot is a little weird cause Aust wasnt on his scum radar (on a quick iso)

I want to iso ppl still alive and get associations.

[Vaxkiller]

BTW holy fuck u guys were busy posting

[Vaxkiller]

I'll be around before the deadline, but the work for the holiday tomorrow is kick my ass. Boats are a hole in the water you throw money and time into. Ugh.

I'll try and catch up tomorrow if not Tuesday morning.

[Vaxkiller]

also im just an echo bay citizen, no bp or ntohin

[Vaxkiller]

I'm lost. If I had to hip shoot I would probably shoot davsto. I don't really like how he just out of no where scum read whoever taht was and he flipped scum. If someone threatens me I'm not going to hip shoot because its just going to muck things up more and I'm not that confident at the moment.

I still need to go through some isos

[Vaxkiller]

I see questioning Aust, but I had no idea from those posts you were scum reading him for it.

Lemme look back and see how much interaction you guys have and if it increased/decreased before the shot.

[Vaxkiller]

Short iso.

I didn't really have a read on him before.

I don't know if I even have one now. But I'm pissed regardless and I feel like he DESERVES to be shot.

I feel like this proves gamma is town.
Hes saying He doesnt know if he has one now. Is like him explaining the flip before it happens.

[Vaxkiller]

I dunno Davsto, you worry me, but in retrospect I think the munitions team thought they were in a good spot at the start of the day and prob werent prepared to bus.

EDit

Looking back at the alive/dead list in OP... we are in a abd spot!

Didn't relaly read the flips until now.
3goons +traitor teams?

So that means there is still 2 munitions goons out there and a trator and an SK?

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Also, you've said that my shot is "weird" because it came out of nowhere and hit scum, but I can't see you saying anything else and it's confusing. What's weird about it? Why is it scummy? More explanation would be appreciated

I was thinking it was a bus, but I think it's just me being paranoid.

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I didn't see you calling aust scum before the shot, like most people were like "here are my scum reads". You even mention some of yours, but dont include aus specifically. Those posts you posted show you interacting with aust, but I didnt get you were scum reading him from thsoe posts.

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Just to clarify, Aust was grits.

Shit, well nm then.

[Vaxkiller]

So davsto is scum because hes teh only claimed 1 shot and has to be the traitor?

Eh maybe.

[Vaxkiller]

If thats the case then then the worst is prob the SK like I said before.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm not familiar with Love, but I dont feel like they were bussing. I also dont think gamma will flip scum either.

[Vaxkiller]

You know waht?

Shoot StefanB

[Vaxkiller]

H Y P E

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I have shamed my family