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[wingedcatgirl]

meme game

(i'll contribute for real later when i have any idea what is going on)

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So wait is Taly trying to recreate the breaking strategy that destroyed that other game with lots of dayvigs?

Because I had been wondering what exactly was stopping us all from just. doing that again.

... It is

something

stopping us, right?

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wait no Taly's doing the polar opposite of that thing.

... Look. I'm sleep-deprived.

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That said, I think this would work if we just all said "we'll shoot anyone that shoots into the bloc" without the whole circle thing, but I'm just spitballing at this point.

I endorse this variant of the pacifistbloc by virtue of being much easier to set up. Since simultaneous shots aren't a thing I think there's no downside?

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Why are we trying to be serious and game solve this early?

... What

should

we be doing?

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Why are you waiting for a flip?

Because the game rules don't let us shoot people until the mod has resolved the previous shot?

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Hello everynyan I am back from work and finally caught up on posts

I would like to join the pacifistbloc on the condition that I can synthesize the current name suggestions and call it PRANKERS

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442: I had skimmed the actual entire thread.

I can feel both sides of the argument w/r/t the pacifistbloc but honestly the thing that tipped the scales was that offering to join allows me to make the PRANKERS joke.

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Yes.

One might be tempted to argue that I have silly priorities.

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Are randomkills more dangerous to scum than to town? I would assume the opposite, if only because there are fewer scum to possibly hit at random. (

Probably

.)


Also I forgot to ask this and probably should have done so earlier: what is the PRANKERS position on people leaving the pacifishbloc?

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This is because they do not want to accidentally shoot one of their own.

Wat? Surely they know their own. If there's 2+ scum factions, surely they'd be ok with shooting the other faction too, at least now that the idiocy regarding "we're all townies" is over.

*headtilt* I swear to god, at some point around game start I read some public text by the mod that said

something

to the effect of "there could be multiball and traitors". Which I, personally, interpreted as "there is probably multiball and traitors".

But now I can't for the life of me find it. Does anyone know what I'm referring to, or is this just me being scatterbrained again?



... The point of all this being, assuming that this text actually existed and isn't my imagination, it would be the reason for any scum being cautious about accidentally shooting their own.

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So they have traitors, one flipped so that is obvious, so I'll use that as example. My understanding of this is that say there's

4 normal scum and 1 traitor, all 5 know who each other are

, they just don't know who the traitor is (except the traitor). If that's the case, why do they have to worry about hitting themselves with shots? They know who is scum with them even if one of them might be a traitor. How can they accidentally hit a scumbuddy?

... Oh! I see the miscommunication.

A "traitor", in mafia games, is a member of the scumteam that is initially not "in the loop" - the traitor doesn't know who their scumbuddies are, nor do the normal scum know who the traitor is.
The fluff idea isn't that they're planning on betraying

their scumteam

. They're planning on betraying

town

.


Also, it turns out I was thinking of the queue topic. Kinda wondering how nobody else remembers that, since we all posted in it to join.


pedit: and everything i typed is moot now but whatever

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... I gotta admit, I was legitimately expecting hebichan to flip scum there. {Hmmm.}

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A BP who has made three posts all game, and nothing since Thursday.

I don't like this.

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.........................................

Who's alive in PRANKERS, again? I want permission to take a shot.

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That, or an explanation as to why shooting randomidget is less good than I semi-impulsively think.

I'll accept either.

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I am aware that I've been a low-energy player - as a low-energy person, it was kinda gonna be a thing.

I'm about to leave for work in like half an hour, so I can't construct a readwall just this second, but I'll do so when I get back.

[jokingly overconfident voice]And when I do it'll be over for both scumteams, bwa ha ha.[/]

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I'm back from work and I'm about to start my reads.

I, too, dislike that random is turbolurking but I don't want to use my kill as a policy or backup "lynch" when statistically I really ought to be able to legitimately find scum at this point.

Like. Over half the game is dead but that only includes two scum. The field is fuckin narrowed as shit, at this point.

Well. I'll get back to nyall in an hour ish when I've finished.

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That was light that shot N_M, for the record.

My brain has light filed as "seems towny", but I haven't gotten to actually looking at her on purpose yet, so stay tuned.

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I have no clue how an associative on

me/Not_Mafia

was formed, could someone expand on that? I've been pretty clear about my read directed toward them.

Posts mentioning both you and n_m. (Unless I screwed up the search formatting, I guess.)
I see it, but I don't buy it.

Currently I have you read as "disconcertingly unknowable, slightly leaning town".

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Okay, here's the short version.
I'm sort of playing this by feel and didn't take detailed notes. I'll elaborate on any of these on request.


VVmost scumVV
Ausuka
Davsto
randomidget

-arbitrary middle line-

StefanB
Theta Alpine
TheBrie
Vaxkiller
Austerity
light_ganski
the worst
^^least scum^^


??disconcertingly unknowable??
Taly
Iconeum
Lovebird
Archwing -> Toranaga (please post SOME thing. thank you.)
Gammagooey (your reads make me {Hmmm.} but I don't see them as scum-motivated per se?)
BBmolla (basically hasn't started playing yet)


If nothing changes, I'll shoot one of my top three.

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To be clear I don't mean like, in ten minutes or anything.

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... Okay. I guess that happened, somehow. And I've got today's last bullet.

I hear one request to shoot Dav. Does anyone have a counter-request?

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Or. I suppose Dav probably has a counter-request. Does he have a counter-

argument

?

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I'm busy at the moment unfortunately but a quick skim and I'm now feeling a "BBmolla or Ausuka" shot. Leaning Ausuka.

Stefan is super not on my radar and it's disconcerting.

Theta is just. still really confusing.

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I'm busy at the moment

And this just got cancelled. Actual effort incoming.

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I didn't mean immediately. In retrospect, I definitely should not have said "incoming".

... Though this is still past when I

did

mean, so.
I'm scatterbrained. Okay. It's late and I'm sleep-deprived again.

In any case. An effort post will be made before I do a shooting thing. Unless people scream "argh hurry up and shoot already, you are the last one and we are impatient", I guess.

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Well - does anyone here specifically

not

want to hear from Magna before I do my thing? I can't why that might be, but I thought I'd ask.

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It's me, I'm the low energy person holding the last shot.

Do you want me to shoot someone now? I can certainly do this.

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Mind, I'm currently far from a computer, and I did state an intent to do an effort post before shooting. Would you rather get to the night?

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Oh, yeah, Tuesday was definitely the limit. (I have Tuesdays off, so that's when I Do Stuff, including stuff I could theoretically do any day but have been lazy about.)

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Scum reads outnumber Town by a factor of about 1.5

Eh? Most of what you say about me being lazy is obviously factually correct, but where did this part come from?

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Everyone below ~arbitrary middle line~ is more likely town than scum. I apologize if that was unclear.

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Perhaps I should have labeled the bottom of the scale "most town" instead of "least scum"?

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I don't want to end the day abruptly, so before I shoot Ico does anyone have anything they want to say?

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Don't care.

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I've delayed the game out of sheer laziness so long at this point that I'm definitely going to be shot the moment D2 begins. So I've stopped caring about preventing this.

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I'm gonna wait another hour, just to annoy you. :^)

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There is no reason Town WCG thinks she is going to be shot immediately Day 2 unless she's planning to NOT shoot public enemy number 1.

............................................. I'm sorry, are you trying to suggest I should shoot

myself

?

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I've lost the ability to care about this game, I'm just trying not to make things unnecessarily worse for town with my last action.

Maybe I should just

not

shoot?

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But if I'm dead, nobody with poor impulse control (or an anti-town wincon) will be able to spend their bullet on me.

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... Oh, oops, I skipped a step. Imagine there's a post 1306.5 that reads "or maybe I

should

shoot myself".

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I'm not sure it means anything, I think he just wants to keep the thread moving so I don't vanish for another seven hours.

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(To be clear: I have absolutely no intent of vanishing for another seven hours.)

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I'm gonna use my shot before I go to sleep. On the floor if I have to. (Er, the shot, not the sleeping - or more precisely, yes that too but it's neither likely nor relevant to the game.)

But I'm suddenly considering a different target. This is probably a bad idea, but I've spent the past week posting nothing but bad ideas in this thread.

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I mean - Ico still seems a better shot than the floor, even now. The actual point of that statement being that I'd rather waste my shot than pointlessly drag the day out even further.

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I went away to play a video game for like. An hour or two? (Look, I barely know how time works when I'm sober.)

And suddenly a lot of people are being !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was hoping to hear from MoI, for some reason.

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lmao

if I ever roll a die in any mafia game, you can call it a scumclaim

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But why does lovebird have the idea that

most

scum are traitors? I'm curious about this.

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Did we get information indicating that scum teams are just two each? Or am I misunderstanding?

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I guess????????

I mean
that is deliberately being as non specific as possible but two goons plus several traitors on each of two scumteams is. possible?

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Well I said I'd use my shot and it looks like everyone's asleep, so no more nothing will be coming in tonight. So

shoot: Iconeum

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I don't get it. Where's the third team?

The suggestion is that the third nightkill came from a third scumteam.

Not the only possible explanation, but I don't really feel like playing "outguess the mod" today, so I'm leaving it as "I sure

hope

there isn't a third scumteam" for now.

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I

want

to say "there cannot possibly have been 4 shots"

but I was just about that much not expecting 3 shots last night so what do I know about how many shots are in this game apparently

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Also apparently I accidentally skipped a page

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Are any of us even actually invested in PRANKERS anymore? I think all the hipshooting types died day 1.