Changes to Normal Games (update September 2022)

[Dwlee99]

What do people think of making it normal that vengeful disables in ELO/MELO?

Edit: or making it normal for a mod to choose functionality through modifiers, like what Cook suggested below.

[Dwlee99]

1-shot + M/ELO modifiers could be interesting in games where it is unclear how many mafia there are.

[Dwlee99]

I agree with your concerns and I think you would have to make these decisions during review if putting these modifiers into the game.

Edit: adding to the above, it could be made more concrete by making a general modifier of (this is a scuffed name) "x-differential" where the role disables when town - anti-town <= x. This gives the modifier clear use for both night and day phases imo and also resolves ambiguities wrt how the role would function in multiball.

[Dwlee99]

The wiki for NAR says

For actions which combine two other actions use the first one listed.

This makes me believe a combined goon rolestopper would kill then rolestop.

[Dwlee99]

I'd argue those kinds of roles shouldn't be normalized in part because I think they are unfun ways to play. If I signed up for a game of mafia and my win condition was a survivor that can't win with town or mafia I would be a little annoyed about it.

[Dwlee99]

You could do neighborhoods of people with an informed modifier that no one in the hood is x faction.

[Dwlee99]

additionally, i have another suggestion, how about an "anti-personal" modifier? Like it makes the role only affect factional abilities, could be useful as a buffing tool for manipulatives or a modifying in an interesting way some roles (anti-personal Role Watcher comes to mind for instance)

Nth this

[Dwlee99]

Something like Backup Cop Night 10 Cop is "normal" in technicality and would function as an activator for another backup.