Mini Normal 2010 - Scientific Mafia [GAME OVER]

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VOTE: tehbrawlguy
He told me he was scum

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Is rvs over yet?
If so
VOTE: tehbrawlguy

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I’m confused that you are confused by my post.

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Garuga, are you gonna stop giving us your thoughts just now that it's interesting?

I think I'm taking up too much space in the thread anyways. Might as well give others the chance to be in the spotlight while I think about my reads.

No.
Stay fluid or get deaded








Idk. Couldn’t think of anything better.

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Screen's probably town because of post #20. Feels town.

Fake
VOTE: Shoshin

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Screen's probably town because of post #20. Feels town.

Fake
VOTE: Shoshin

This doesn't feel fake to me.

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im going to assume if you were scum buddies you wouldn't have voted me.

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Also for those that are interested, I have some thoughts on a few others:

A paragraph of reads in just 4 pages. Nice. Anyone help you with that?

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i quickly read this morning and defiantly had some 'hmm,thinking" moments ill need to come back to tonight.

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Who do you think is scum?

Check my vote.

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Blah blah blah.


I’m going to active lurk for awhile.

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Tiam you wanna be my friend this game?

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Strong gut you are town.

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Tiam you wanna be my friend this game?

I didn't know buddying people could be that easy.

It’s all about personality.
I’m close to asking you as well.

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We'll go with it for now. What's your record on your gut reads?

I don’t keep records but if I had to guess I would say around 70%

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People have been ignoring me this game I'm not sure I like it

What do you feel has been ignored?

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So I am fairly confident there's 1 spy

What is a spy?

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I dislike his personality

Ouch. What did I do?

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Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen.

Garuga and Bu,
Tell me about your feels. You both make a comment about the three of us. I see scum but obviously for different reasons than you.

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Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen. Do you think the jokes about a scum PT are a hint of some sort?

It might be. The whole thing just seems off, y'know?
Just seems like a weird progression of RVS.
Like it is clear that screen is going for some shock value with his opener. Is it a townie just making a joke for laughs, or a reaction test of some sort or is it scum doing something rediculous so that we all think "must be townie; scum wouldn't expose themselves like that".

So without additional info about screen we can only say it's NAI. Sho townreading him for it is also NAI because town can be wrong. Just because she's townreading something NAI doesn't automatically make her scum. Byron then scumreads her for 'buddying'. Sho responds back with a countercase on Byron. It just all seems forced and escalating too quickly for it to be a genuine TvTvT convo. Hence my suspicion that it is TvTvS. It might be TvSvS but scum tend to think twice about joining their buddy in the spotlight so I think the average scum instinct would be to take a step back. So 1 scum seems more likely than 2.

Bu already answered.
But it’s off.

He asked about sho brawl and Srceen. You talked about Byron, not brawl.

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You defended Screen, said his creepy vote made sense to you, and then you followed Screen's vote. How isn't that cozying up to Screen? I get the sense that you're projecting your own motivations onto me.

Are you implying that whenever someone votes or agrees the same as someone else they are buddying?

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Getting really active when accused is a scumtell that actually works, right Screen?


Getting really active when accused is a scumtell that actually works, right Screen?

I’ve seen people push it.

Bah

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Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen.

Garuga and Bu,
Tell me about your feels. You both make a comment about the three of us. I see scum but obviously for different reasons than you.

From what I've pieced together, BuJaber seems to think you three are a role with a PT. Brawl is townlean, Screenplay is meh, Shoshin is kinda meh too but has some suss points like 59 so if you're looking for scum in that trio I'd start with her.

You said it’s a good observation. Why do you think it. Don’t answer from their perspective.

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This is what they originally said.

I think the screenplay's joke vote is NAI, the reaction to it is NAI, and shoshin getting involved with it is NAI. That said, the 3 things together feel forced and odds are a chain of posts like that in RVS contains 1 spy at least. So I am fairly confident there's 1 spy among {shoshin, brawl, screenplay}. So FOS on you 3 while I try to sort you.

You say good observation.

Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen.

So what is it that you think is a good observation?

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What I'm trying to tell you garuga is that I never focused on the PT aspect of it. It's only relevant if screen and brawl are both scum which is highly unlikely.

But why would he assume that then?

Don’t lead him. Let’s hear his thoughts to help us understand where he is coming from.

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Bolded.

Why?




Also wtf is a spy?

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Bolded.

Why?




Also wtf is a spy?

I just agree with him what else is there to explain

He just said he doesn’t think you are understanding the his point but you keep saying you agree with his point.

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Who are you voting?

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so if you're looking for scum in that trio I'd start with her.

So if you where to look for scum in us it would be Shoshin.

This is what they originally said.

I think the screenplay's joke vote is NAI, the reaction to it is NAI, and shoshin getting involved with it is NAI.

That said, the 3 things together feel forced and odds are a chain of posts like that in RVS contains 1 spy at least. So I am fairly confident there's 1 spy among {shoshin, brawl, screenplay}.

So FOS on you 3 while I try to sort you.

You say good observation.

Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen.

So what is it that you think is a good observation?

Bolded.

You agree with how that there is scum in us three.


Now you vote me after all else you just said?

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Then we are agreeing on the first part and disagreeing on the other.
1+ scum in trio. The other 2 would be town. No reason to think they would have PT also

The thing is. We are in a pt together.

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That’s why I thought it was strange that us in a pt is stuck in his head. Plus it felt like he was postering on Shoshin

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Lynch one and vig the other.

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My view on you has changed through this conversation, I feel like you're being intentionally dense and combined with 183 and 184 I think there's good reasons to vote you.

Keep trying

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We have a good page of content for others to chime in on.

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I am a town neighbor.
Shoshin and brawl are both in my hood.

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Then one of Screen and Shoshin and Brawl are probably scum, a 3 town neighborhood is probably unlikely?

And I just connected the dots on two of them.

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Tiam, you said you would be my buddy.
Stop distracting from the found scum.

Look at Shoshin or Garuga

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Tiam, you said you would be my buddy.
Stop distracting from the found scum.

Look at Shoshin or Garuga

Which do you think. Has anything interesting been going on in the neighborhood?

Yes. That’s why I’m voting Shoshin.
I would think it’s why brawl voted with me.
It’s been silent for 24 hours now.

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seeing that there actually is a "hidden connection" between Srceen, Shoshin and Brawl makes it most likely that Bujaber saw something that I didn't, than that him pushing there is red motivated

I agree with this.
That’s why I was trying to see if it was BuJaber or Garuga.

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also, why does everyone seem certain that there's one red in the neighborhood? I thought the whole idea of the neighbor mechanic was that you couldn't tell how much red or green it is. is that not how they work here, or am I missing something? if it makes sense to look harder at the neighbors than everyone else, then I will

Neighborhoods can be any combination of town and scum.

I think the thought process of us three being in a neighborhood together is tmi.
That would also show that scum is in the hood.

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my scumread on Srceenplay?

The thing is you don’t scum read me.
You are only fake reading me.

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The wheels on the buss go round and round

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That was my prodge post.

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Shoshin, concede?

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Oh I know.
Create winfom. Who should we lynch next.

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I’ll get to that later.

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Shhhhh

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You are d deflecting the lynch. That looks scumy.

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What are the chances that all 3 scum fakeclaim being neighbors, therefore if one/two dies the others are cleared of suspicion? I really really

really

doubt this is the case but is it something we should be aware of or should we just dismiss that possibility?

I think you are close.

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I’ll go ahead and announce the scum team.

Shoshin
Garuga
Brawl

We lynch Shoshin.
Vig Garuga
Cop brawl.

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We had a small discourse in our hood.
I was going to sleep a left calling Shoshin scum.

What I thought was odd is those two kept going but not in hood.
They started talking in the main thread. It felt awkward and looked like theater.
It’s something they could have continued in the hood but the deliberately didn’t.
There hasn’t been any posts since that first night.

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This is a town win.

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How does Brawl get tangled into this again?

We are in a hood together

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Or is it a 4 man hood and I missed something?

No.
Just three.
Me
Shoshin
Brawl

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, so let me rephrase my question, how does Garuga get tangled into this?

He slipped that he knew we were in a hood together

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Wait where did he do that? If that's the case it confirms there's scum in the hood and that's he's scum (unless there's like two hoods that have an overlapping member, which I don't think is possible..?)

@Screen: could you go over scum Garuga a bit more?

I have more reads but VOTE: Shoshin before anything else.
Looking at mod meta quickly.

Garuga is basically just from their pt perspective.
I was torn between them and BuJaber.
But after Garuga still trying to deflect from Shoshin I think it’s definitely them.

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Nope I don't see those 3 together at all.

I think there is a big chance garuga is scum with one of them. But that would clear the other imo.

Like it's shoshin/garuga/x or brawl/garuga/x or even screen/garuga/x (kudos on the theatrics if this is it) but in the event that scum is found in the hood and garuga also flips scum they'd be a really terrible team if their 3rd member was also in the hood. I don't think the hood survives until end game. I mean I can't speak for anyone else but I'd be so paranoid if I was alive at lylo and 1 of the neighbors was still alive with me.

Again, brawl is on the list because of the theater.
We were having the discussion amongst ourselves in the pt.
As soon as I left for the night the stopped in the pt and moved to the main thread.
What motivation is behind that? It felt awkward and looks like theater.
Brawl is not as strong as the other two but it’s definitely worth an invest.

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Screen: could you go over scum Garuga a bit more?

I should have just answered this^

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Are

No jesters no third option just an easy lynch.

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I’ll go ahead and announce the scum team.

Shoshin
Garuga
Brawl

We lynch Shoshin.
Vig Garuga
Cop brawl.

Your reads are dead-on BTW.

/ff

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Screen said our first priority should be figuring out who in the Hood was Scum, whereas Sho and I disagreed and said it should be in general scumhunting and reads development.

Not entirely true.
I said our first priority should be sorting each other. Not “find the scum”.
Shoshin opened with they will assume we are all town until later.

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Why are we letting scum derail the lynch?

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Again.
Garuga is a good vig shot.
Brawl is an excellent cop check.

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GL

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catching the first to was pretty much easy peasy.

You are welcome

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BuJaber literally called the hood in thread,

Explain. I’m not following.

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Mumble obviously took a good shot.
Thanks.

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Possibly

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I really would like to vote brawl myself.

Would you guys believe me if I said I was a neighbor cop?

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Odds don’t really matter when you have no mod meta

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There is not going to be another vig.
No mafia protective.
That’s probably why the vig was gated.

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Gustavo or Voyc top two picks for last scum I guess

Can you give me a fresh sentence or two about them.

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Nvm. You don’t hav to answer.
Brawl is scum.
VOTE: Brawl

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Everyone vote.
Let’s get a mini normal finished in less than a week.
Maybe a record.

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We don't know this? Unless you're the last wolf, which I don't think you are...

We don’t “know” this but it can easily be assumed.
If there was a mafia protection mafia probably wouldn’t have been vigged last night.

Stop trying to shade. If you really want to be a tree, get lynched and leaf.

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Damn. I had another dumb slip. Lol.

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we are far enough ahead, why not mass claim?

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Seeing as there's 1 scum left, I don't think it's a key thing to note at all/larger wagon stuff isn't worth looking at

Agree

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I keep trying to talk myself out of brawl but I can’t.
I would rather lynch him than BuJaber anyway.

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This, folks, is why you run someone to L-2 to force a claim, not L-1.

You sound like you know the flip already

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gg
everyone

Tanks for the game Archwing

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I might have pissed of my neighborhood but it wasnt personal.
I play to get reactions. Especially early. I think it payed off here.
I tunneled Brawl towards my end and shouldnt have. He was bleeding town but my paranoia got the best of me.