Mini Normal 2010 - Scientific Mafia [GAME OVER]

[TwoInAMillion]

Screen's probably town because of post #20. Feels town.

Fake
VOTE: Shoshin

This doesn't feel fake to me.

VOTE: Srceenplay

[TwoInAMillion]

I feel like a read list like Byron's is a little early to have any real meaningful value. I applaud the effort, but I don't think it means much.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think not posting the first four pages is the same as being inactive.

[TwoInAMillion]

Screen's probably town because of post #20. Feels town.

Fake
VOTE: Shoshin

This doesn't feel fake to me.

VOTE: Srceenplay

im going to assume if you were scum buddies you wouldn't have voted me.

Who do you think is scum?

[TwoInAMillion]

I didn't. Scum doesn't care whether or not they're defending you there, they care that Screen is a non-offensive place to vote-park that doesn't disrupt any of the major wagons too much. Thinking about it, I actually like that vote even less. VOTE: TiaM Let's go.

If voting Srceenplay is "non offensive" then it means that it's a good vote, considering I'm the first one to do it, and there's a lot of crappy votes out there. Trying to wagon me for a good vote is really bad. Besides that, there's nothing in my post that says I'm trying to be non offesnive, you are psychoanalyzing me and twisting my words.

[TwoInAMillion]

I didn't. Scum doesn't care whether or not they're defending you there, they care that Screen is a non-offensive place to vote-park that doesn't disrupt any of the major wagons too much. Thinking about it, I actually like that vote even less. VOTE: TiaM Let's go.

No. TiaM has been here since RVS, Voyc hasn't. They're not the same at all.

True. After checking his ISO, I found out Gustavo has even less content than TiaM, and I don't like the way he checked out of the thread so antagonistically.. VOTE: Gustavo

I think his post voting Byron has content. I disagree with his conclusion, but it's still content. I also read Gustavo's tone as Town.

Still has less content than TiaM though. 92 and 101 are his only 2 non-RVS content posts, compared to TiaM having 4 content posts.

Perhaps we see things differently. In TiaM's ISO, I really only see his first post as having any content. The others are pretty neutral points that don't really rock the boat that much.

I don't post shit just for the sake of posting shit, when I have something to say I'll say it and say what I mean.

[TwoInAMillion]

I didn't vote srceen on the basis of being wierd, I voted him on the basis that his logic was poor on his vote.

[TwoInAMillion]

And in case you hadn't noticed, it's only page 6 and not a lot has happened yet. This is what's called making mountains out of molehills.

[TwoInAMillion]

We'll see. Why me?

Unvote

[TwoInAMillion]

Unvote

[TwoInAMillion]

We'll go with it for now. What's your record on your gut reads?

[TwoInAMillion]

Tiam you wanna be my friend this game?

I didn't know buddying people could be that easy.

Sure it can, certain players are pretty easy to figure out later on. Srceen and I have a lot of experience together.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Shoshin
to be honest you might as well give up because I'm on to you scumbum

Wait there's already 3 votes on you god you're popular
VOTE: unvote

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

Opportunistic wagonerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

VOTE: Shoshin
to be honest you might as well give up because I'm on to you scumbum

What makes you think Shoshin might be scum?

read my posts again and check my vote and if you decide to ask that question again ill give you something

Another new post: Oh nice Saudude is posting, I'll have to look into his small posts and see if I can find anything. The name 'scumbum' seems like the only lead as to what he's saying, but idk what that could mean other than scum. Also the fact that he's posting here probably moves him a bit further away from the inactivity camp, but I'm not getting many vibes at all off of him right now.

are you telling me that the term "scumbum" is alignment indicative mate?

Let us focus people outside of Shoshin and Byron because they both might be town

People have been ignoring me this game I'm not sure I like it

This doesn't seem genuine.

VOTE: Saudade

[TwoInAMillion]

I am a town neighbor.
Shoshin and brawl are both in my hood.

Then one of Screen and Shoshin and Brawl are probably scum, a 3 town neighborhood is probably unlikely?

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Shoshin
to be honest you might as well give up because I'm on to you scumbum

Wait there's already 3 votes on you god you're popular
VOTE: unvote

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

Opportunistic wagonerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

VOTE: Shoshin
to be honest you might as well give up because I'm on to you scumbum

What makes you think Shoshin might be scum?

read my posts again and check my vote and if you decide to ask that question again ill give you something

Another new post: Oh nice Saudude is posting, I'll have to look into his small posts and see if I can find anything. The name 'scumbum' seems like the only lead as to what he's saying, but idk what that could mean other than scum. Also the fact that he's posting here probably moves him a bit further away from the inactivity camp, but I'm not getting many vibes at all off of him right now.

are you telling me that the term "scumbum" is alignment indicative mate?

Let us focus people outside of Shoshin and Byron because they both might be town

People have been ignoring me this game I'm not sure I like it

This doesn't seem genuine.

VOTE: Saudade

what an elaborate thought process you're sharing here

Finding scum doesn't need to be complicated.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would go on and elaborate why sharing your thought process is both beneficial for you and the other people around you while scumhunting but you've been here since 2017 and I doubt you'll take what I say to heart.

Either that or you're scum yourself with no town process to share to begin with

You've been trying to distract town with insults the whole game.

[TwoInAMillion]

Tiam, you said you would be my buddy.
Stop distracting from the found scum.

Look at Shoshin or Garuga

Which do you think. Has anything interesting been going on in the neighborhood?

[TwoInAMillion]

What specifically?

VOTE: Shoshin

[TwoInAMillion]

Yeah I agree that Suadede is probaby bad town.

[TwoInAMillion]

221 looks like a pretty solid pro town post I'm gonna add him to my town block.

[TwoInAMillion]

Byron that is.

[TwoInAMillion]

If shoshin is scum than that townclears Screen and Brawl for the most part which puts town at a huge advantage after the flip:).

[TwoInAMillion]

I think garunga doenst want scum!scoshin lynched.

[TwoInAMillion]

Sorry...8% of three player neighborhoods have been all town.

[TwoInAMillion]

If you have an 92% chance of knowing that scum is one of three people, that is a good place to start.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think garunga doenst want scum!scoshin lynched.

What makes you scumread me, other than my scumread on Srceenplay? (which makes me automatically townread Shoshin)

I think Srceenplay vs. Shoshin is the elephant in the room right now.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think Srceenplay vs. Shoshin is the elephant in the room right now.

Why are you voting me, not Screen?

I have more experience with Screen and feel I could sort scumScreen more than ScumYou later in the game.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm town, way to go.

[TwoInAMillion]

Oops wrong game:).

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm town in this game too, no harm done.

[TwoInAMillion]

No one is assuming anything about the nieghborhood. But 1 scum is more likely than no scum, and 2 scum is less likely than 1 scum, and 3 scum is less likely than 2 scum. Ignoring the odds isn't helpful.

[TwoInAMillion]

I also think Byron may be on to something.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: garuga

[TwoInAMillion]

I love how everyone is scumreading me and yet not voting me.

In that case, I'll just reveal I'm this game's

Mafia Rolecop

.

[TwoInAMillion]

Well, Garuga being dead definately makes things easier.

The problem is, he voted almost everyone in the game at some point.

[TwoInAMillion]

My vote was on confirmed scum.

I'm honestly pretty clueless as to who is scum right now because catching the first to was pretty much easy peasy.

[TwoInAMillion]

Pretty sure that's a reactionary scum vote.

VOTE: Gustavo

[TwoInAMillion]

Interesting.

Sho's other posts in the hood before shit broke down were early D1. They were asking what we thought of Gustavo, who posts sounded off to her, and saying she thought Garuga was scummy for sounding afraid in his posts around the start of Page 2.

Now that we know that whole thing was a bus, I'm a lot less gung-ho about ScreenScum. Especially weird is that Garuga seemed to originally be leaning towards ShoScum and then pivoted away from that to go onto Screen. That pivot makes a lot of sense if you're trying to force a ML, but a lot less so if you're just shifting from one scummate to another. With Garuga off Sho, that would imply to me that the other Scum was either on Sho, or going to join the wagon soon.

The final VC was:
Shoshin (7):Srceenplay, BuJaber, TehBrawlGuy, Hopkirk, Gustavo, Mumble, Garuga
and TiaM was on Sho until the last second when he pivoted to Garuga over the scumclaim.

Screen I trust more as stated above
BuJaber literally called the hood in thread, which I doubt Scum would do.
I'm town fmpov obv
Gustavo's vote came hella late on sho.
Mumble and Garuga are dead and flipped.

So to me, that means I'd wager one of Hopkirk/TiaM is scum, outside shot at Gustavo. I'm flipping back and forth on who I think it is between them, but I'm pretty sure Scum is in that pile.

I think as long as we keep the townblock of Me, Screen, Bujabar, and Byron together we'll win the game. I would probably throw Brawl in there too except he seems like the kind of the guy who can seem really town as scum. I would probably be willing to vote anyone not in the block.

[TwoInAMillion]

Interesting.

Sho's other posts in the hood before shit broke down were early D1. They were asking what we thought of Gustavo, who posts sounded off to her, and saying she thought Garuga was scummy for sounding afraid in his posts around the start of Page 2.

Now that we know that whole thing was a bus, I'm a lot less gung-ho about ScreenScum. Especially weird is that Garuga seemed to originally be leaning towards ShoScum and then pivoted away from that to go onto Screen. That pivot makes a lot of sense if you're trying to force a ML, but a lot less so if you're just shifting from one scummate to another. With Garuga off Sho, that would imply to me that the other Scum was either on Sho, or going to join the wagon soon.

The final VC was:
Shoshin (7):Srceenplay, BuJaber, TehBrawlGuy, Hopkirk, Gustavo, Mumble, Garuga
and TiaM was on Sho until the last second when he pivoted to Garuga over the scumclaim.

Screen I trust more as stated above
BuJaber literally called the hood in thread, which I doubt Scum would do.
I'm town fmpov obv
Gustavo's vote came hella late on sho.
Mumble and Garuga are dead and flipped.

So to me, that means I'd wager one of Hopkirk/TiaM is scum, outside shot at Gustavo. I'm flipping back and forth on who I think it is between them, but I'm pretty sure Scum is in that pile.

That's true I keep on forgetting who was in the neighborhood.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't know why it keeps on quoting that.

[TwoInAMillion]

Not necessarily true. There is site mod meta as well as individual mod meta.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would rather lynch Gustavo than Brawl myself. Will consider switching.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would rather lynch Gustavo than Brawl myself. Will consider switching.

You have no reason to want to lynch me. I’m town so you are either scum or bad town

You have no basis for saying this.

[TwoInAMillion]

I want to lynch you because you have been no help to the town and there are no obvious scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would rather lynch Gustavo than Brawl myself. Will consider switching.

You have no reason to want to lynch me. I’m town so you are either scum or bad town

You have no basis for saying this.

I absolutely do. You gave your reason for voting me and your reason implies you are scum or bad town.

You can say that as much as you want but you are digging yourself a deeper hole.

[TwoInAMillion]

Provide actual reasoning and I'll listen. Oh wait, you have none.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not holding being VLA against you. I'm holding the fact that you're not actually trying to use reason to find scum and there are lots of players that are acting more townie than you.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not the one that started the conversation.

[TwoInAMillion]

Gustavo sounds like caught scum. More votes please.

[TwoInAMillion]

Gustavo is probably not getting lynched today, it seems(even though he should be). Trying to decide between voting Voyc and Brawl. Leaning towards Voyc because Brawl has been more active.

[TwoInAMillion]

Ascetic means all non killing actions fail, including protecting. So there would be no point in protecting an ascetic.

[TwoInAMillion]

Don't want to be off the wagon today:)

VOTE: Voyc

[TwoInAMillion]

I mean VOTE: Brawl

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not taking it personally. Gustavo could easily be scum trying to generaty ate sympathy with the town.

[TwoInAMillion]

That sounds like a reasonable scumpool I would throw gustavo in there but I digress.

[TwoInAMillion]

@Gus: if you're forming a POE pool then can you understand TiM doing the same thing and having you in it? You say you didn't do much d1

Forming a poe pool is one thing. Voting me for things nobody should be voted for is another. I can’t speak for other players but my personal belief is if you see somebody voting for bad reasons to say something.

It's not bad reasons. Everyone in my townpool is much more active and engaged that you and scumhunting better. Not only are you not active but you are very reactive and selfaware more like scum than town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Defending myself is scum like? Dude you can’t really be this bad at mafia.

Focusing on one person scum reading you is scum like. You can call me names all you want but it doesn't make me wrong.

[TwoInAMillion]

Defending myself is scum like? Dude you can’t really be this bad at mafia.

Focusing on one person scum reading you is scum like. You can call me names all you want but it doesn't make me wrong.

I’m not even voting you.

I never said you were voting me.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think we really need it and it would hurt town more than help.

[TwoInAMillion]

Byron has always been in the town block as far as I was concerned.

[TwoInAMillion]

Mafia Commuters are pretty rare, I don't think we have to worry much about that.

But commuter is a pretty common fakeclaim.

[TwoInAMillion]

It's only confirmable if we have someone investigate him right? He could fakeclaim commuter but that doesn't mean he doesn't make tonights kill assuming there is one. In that sense I don't see how it's any more confirmable than any other role.

[TwoInAMillion]

1) No reasoning

2) Only people that are pushing me are out of the town block. Big surprise.

Best course of the action is to stick with the townblock and we will win eventually.

[TwoInAMillion]

I guess I'm open to Music Box or Voyc at this point.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Voyc

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Music Box

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not townreading the replaceout, it honestly doesn't make a difference to me as long as they're not in the townblock, and whoever his replacement is isn't worth pushing a lynch for.

[TwoInAMillion]

Voyc replacement is probably the lead candidate for tomorrow so I don't think it's significant.

[TwoInAMillion]

Unless the game is over, of course.

[TwoInAMillion]

Seeing as there's 1 scum left, I don't think it's a key thing to note at all/larger wagon stuff isn't worth looking at

This is part of the reason TiaM's 480 pings me. At most, one person pushing him can be Scum, so as soon as there are people, plural, that are pushing you, at least one's gotta be Town. The blanket attempt to discredit the people against him is pretty weird.

own
I never said no one voting me was town. I said they were part of the scumpool so of course the natural reaction is going to be to discredit the leaders of the townpool. And there is never any reasoning on my votes. Since the townblock has had a large part in lynching the first two scum it makes more sense to stick with the townblock than to suddenly pay attention to kneejerk reaction votes.

[TwoInAMillion]

The people that are voting me are all that need to be said about my wagon.

[TwoInAMillion]

All in the scumpool except maybe hopkirk

[TwoInAMillion]

My vote is already on the best lynch for today. I'm not going to be reactive like scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not pushing for myself to be included in the townblock. Most of the townblock agrees that I am town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Pick one? Like, either I'm town

or

I should be lynched.

If you think I'm Town then it's a bad idea to lynch me.

If you want to lynch me, then you clearly don't think I'm Town.

This is poor logic. Yes, either you are town or should be lynched, but there is a pecking order.

[TwoInAMillion]

Hope this is the last lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

I actually agree with Gustavo.

VOTE: Brawl

[TwoInAMillion]

You're right, I forgot that Brawl was in the neighborhood.

Unvote

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm definatley not scum. I'm just trying to sort things out like everyone else. I never said you were my "top" scum read.

[TwoInAMillion]

No, you were just being over sensitive.

[TwoInAMillion]

By process of elimination I would go with Dunnstral, KN15 or Hopkirk today.

[TwoInAMillion]

Town on town violence needs to end.
Scum wanted to lynch you d2.

Sounds like a scummy "Yay we lynched scum" thing scum would say.

VOTE: hopkirk

[TwoInAMillion]

on wrote:
In post 578, Hopkirk wrote:
Town on town violence needs to end.
Scum wanted to lynch you d2.


Sounds like a scummy "Yay we lynched scum" thing scum would say.

VOTE: hopkirk


which bit? I don't really see how either could be interpreted that way.
a- Referencing him being probable town and voting me.
b- My scumpool only includes people who were voting TBG at the st

Just because you can "explain" your statement doesn't mean you're not trying to build towncred through presumptive town statements.

[TwoInAMillion]

Honestly, 586 doesn't sound good either but I don't know that Dunnstral is the top priority atm.

[TwoInAMillion]

I have no idea what your order is based on, but I am a vanilla townie. Nothing to hide here.

[TwoInAMillion]

I thought I was in the townpool? The only people that think I am scum are in the scumpool.

[TwoInAMillion]

I haven't done anything to warrant being removed from the town pool. The people trying to remove me from it have basically no reasoning.

[TwoInAMillion]

I mean I'm vanilla townie so town will likely win anyways regardless but still poor play.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'd prefer to be endgamed when the town wins, is all. As far as getting the win it probably doesn't matter but I've seen games where a town win is all but assured and town still loses.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't like being mislynched, what's wrong with that?

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not lying. Byron is the last scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Byron

[TwoInAMillion]

The fact that he waited so long to claim is indicative.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't know what's in his head. There are a lot of people more suspicious than me that he could have investigated so the fact that he conviniently investigated me the night before I claim should tell you something as well.