Mini Normal 2010 - Scientific Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Garuga]

VOTE: Knuflanto

Something about this name makes me uncomfortable.

[Garuga]

I mean the user not_mafia, which should have been obvious by the underscore between the words.

If you spoke up, maybe we all would've heard the underscore.

lol

And no I’m not him

Does that mean you're Mafia?

[Garuga]

Screen's probably town because of post #20. Feels town.

Are some jokes are inherently towny? I'm not sure what's the meta on that aspect, especially in RVS.

[Garuga]

Screen's probably town because of post #20. Feels town.

Are some jokes are inherently towny? I'm not sure what's the meta on that aspect, especially in RVS.

What's your read on it?

I'm reading it as null, same as TehBrawlGuy's response, which is a little bit more interesting in my opinion since he's continuing the joke.

@TehBrawlGuy, why did you continue his joke?

[Garuga]

Generally, people make jokes like that for two reasons.

1) Lulz
2) For reactions/to break rvs

If it's the former, I amuse us at least. If it's the latter, posting something lets him look at my reaction and anyone else's.

Fair enough. Do you townread his joke?

[Garuga]

I’m confused that you are confused by my post.

Maybe you two need to have a chat in your "scum PT" to clarify things.

[Garuga]

Garuga, are you gonna stop giving us your thoughts just now that it's interesting?

I think I'm taking up too much space in the thread anyways. Might as well give others the chance to be in the spotlight while I think about my reads.

[Garuga]

I guess it's better to generate as much content as possible, especially in the early stages of the game, but I don't want to drown people out in shallow posts and thus discourage them.

[Garuga]

Sup

Garuga seems to be making excuses for not posting but in a way that comes of as LAMIST. VOTE: Garuga

I think the screenplay's joke vote is NAI, the reaction to it is NAI, and shoshin getting involved with it is NAI. That said, the 3 things together feel forced and odds are a chain of posts like that in RVS contains 1 spy at least. So I am fairly confident there's 1 spy among {shoshin, brawl, screenplay}. So FOS on you 3 while I try to sort you.

I have a tonal townread on mumble. Something about remembering NM's post and asking gustavo about feels like it comes from a relaxed townie.

Where's the cake?

I know there's a currently bit of discussion on how much one player should be posting in a game (leading to things like the geriatric ruleset) so I was testing the waters on that. I can see how it could look LAMIST though, and I like your attempt to form early reads.

Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen. Do you think the jokes about a scum PT are a hint of some sort?

[Garuga]

VOTE: Shoshin
to be honest you might as well give up because I'm on to you scumbum

What makes you think Shoshin might be scum?

[Garuga]

While we're all accusing each other of buddying, I might as well point a finger at Knuflanto for trying to defend me from someone scumreading me.

[Garuga]

Dude the game hasn’t even been open for 24 hours plus a bunch of people decided to post like it’s going out of style. Easy on the inactive comments until 2/3 days have passed.

VOTE: byron

Appears Over eager. Doesn’t feel natural to me. Plus he has an unrealistic expectation of activity

But what if posting is actually going out of style?

I think Byron's readlist, at the very least, shows effort in trying to form reads on people. I do think that people are hypersensitive at the prospect of letting me become a lurker, but the criticism levelled against me has some merit IMO.

[Garuga]

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

Do we have to pay to access the full post?

I'm hoping we can find some town in the smart sheepers.

Are you implying that the "smart choice" is to sheep you?

[Garuga]

VOTE: Byron

The entirety of your reads are activity based. They aren't premature, they are baseless and basically amount to fluff. You need to tweak your definition of inactive as well...your homesite operate on a 48/24 cycle?

What about his reads on me and BuJaber? They're not activity based.

VOTE: Mumble

[Garuga]

Fair enough. What about the part where he says I'm asking a lot of questions?

VOTE: Hopkirk
I think his post where he voted for TehBrawlGuy sounded manipulative.

[Garuga]

I think Byron's readlist, at the very least, shows effort in trying to form reads on people. I do think that people are hypersensitive at the prospect of letting me become a lurker, but the criticism levelled against me has some merit IMO.

I can't follow your read on Byron. Town or scum, and why?

I think he's pretty uneventful as far as players go, with "activity = pro-town" and the Shoshin buddying debacle being his main topics of discussion. I do like how he seems to be putting effort into his posts, but I think they're a bit shallow (maybe that's just the early game though). All in all, he just seems like just another townie in the crowd and as such I'm reading Byron as nulltown.

[Garuga]

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

For reference, Garuga, this is the post where Hopkirk voted TehBrawl.

I misremembered, the post I was actually talking about was 81. I think the "find some town in the smart sheepers" bit is manipulative. TiAM is TwoInAMillion. In general, I think we need to wait on TiAM and Voyc since those two haven't posted much content yet.

[Garuga]

I think the "find some town in the smart sheepers" bit is manipulative.

What's scummy about it?

I think it's trying to frame sheeping Hopkirk as the smart and towny decision.

No. TiaM has been here since RVS, Voyc hasn't. They're not the same at all.

True. After checking his ISO, I found out Gustavo has even less content than TiaM, and I don't like the way he checked out of the thread so antagonistically.. VOTE: Gustavo

[Garuga]

No. TiaM has been here since RVS, Voyc hasn't. They're not the same at all.

True. After checking his ISO, I found out Gustavo has even less content than TiaM, and I don't like the way he checked out of the thread so antagonistically.. VOTE: Gustavo

I think his post voting Byron has content. I disagree with his conclusion, but it's still content. I also read Gustavo's tone as Town.

Still has less content than TiaM though. 92 and 101 are his only 2 non-RVS content posts, compared to TiaM having 4 content posts.

[Garuga]

It's not about quantity of content, it's about perspective. Gustavo's vote on Byron felt town.

Garuga, why are you reading Byron as town? Look at 84, so many words to say basically nothing.

He seems like a townie that wants to make useful posts, he just doesn't know what to post yet. I'm keeping an eye on him though, if he doesn't improve the quality of his content I'm going to reconsider my read.

[Garuga]

Tiam you wanna be my friend this game?

I didn't know buddying people could be that easy.

[Garuga]

I like how Saudade

suddenly

became active when Hopkirk put him in the spotlight. It really shows how interested he is in contributing to the discussion. [/sarcasm]

Him trying to divert attention away from Byron and Shoshin might be a clue to his scumbuddies, but for now I'll just VOTE: Saudade

[Garuga]

Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen.

Garuga and Bu,
Tell me about your feels. You both make a comment about the three of us. I see scum but obviously for different reasons than you.

From what I've pieced together, BuJaber seems to think you three are a role with a PT. Brawl is townlean, Screenplay is meh, Shoshin is kinda meh too but has some suss points like 59 so if you're looking for scum in that trio I'd start with her.

[Garuga]

Brawl and you seem to have a lot more interest in scumhunting within that trio than the other players.

[Garuga]

After all, you seem to be ignoring pretty much everything that's been going on in the thread that doesn't pertain to them aside from Byron's readlist and buddying TiaM.

[Garuga]

This is what they originally said.

I think the screenplay's joke vote is NAI, the reaction to it is NAI, and shoshin getting involved with it is NAI.

That said, the 3 things together feel forced and odds are a chain of posts like that in RVS contains 1 spy at least. So I am fairly confident there's 1 spy among {shoshin, brawl, screenplay}.

So FOS on you 3 while I try to sort you.

You say good observation.

Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen.

So what is it that you think is a good observation?

Bolded.

[Garuga]

Bolded.

Why?




Also wtf is a spy?

I just agree with him what else is there to explain

[Garuga]

Bolded.

Why?




Also wtf is a spy?

I just agree with him what else is there to explain

He just said he doesn’t think you are understanding the his point but you keep saying you agree with his point.

If he meant something else when he said Sho was a spy, that's where our views diverge. I think that there's 1 scum in that trio, and I think they all have a PT role.

[Garuga]

Who are you voting?

VOTE: Srceenplay

[Garuga]

My view on you has changed through this conversation, I feel like you're being intentionally dense and combined with 183 and 184 I think there's good reasons to vote you.

[Garuga]

I can't get a read on TiaM's recent posts. I don't think he has provided much discussion material yet, other than him agreeing with a few other people.

[Garuga]

I think garunga doenst want scum!scoshin lynched.

What makes you scumread me, other than my scumread on Srceenplay? (which makes me automatically townread Shoshin)

[Garuga]

I’ll go ahead and announce the scum team.

Shoshin
Garuga
Brawl

We lynch Shoshin.
Vig Garuga
Cop brawl.

Gotta line up those mislynches amirite?

[Garuga]

Oh ok, so let me rephrase my question, how does Garuga get tangled into this?

I’ll go ahead and announce the scum team.

Shoshin
Garuga
Brawl

We lynch Shoshin.
Vig Garuga
Cop brawl.

Gotta line up those mislynches amirite?

OMGUS much?

Considering he called my read on him fake with no arguments whatsoever, I'm not going to give him the privilege of a proper post.

[Garuga]

Wait where did he do that? If that's the case it confirms there's scum in the hood and that's he's scum (unless there's like two hoods that have an overlapping member, which I don't think is possible..?)

180

[Garuga]

I love how everyone is scumreading me and yet not voting me.

In that case, I'll just reveal I'm this game's

Mafia Rolecop

.

[Garuga]

I love how everyone is scumreading me and yet not voting me.

In that case, I'll just reveal I'm this game's

Mafia Rolecop

.

Are jesters a thing on mafiascum or is this just an ez lynch? (or is there a third option?)

There are no 3rd parties in Mini Normals.

[Garuga]

@Garu: when did Shoshin go from scummier to townier for you?

Just ISO me.

[Garuga]

I’ll go ahead and announce the scum team.

Shoshin
Garuga
Brawl

We lynch Shoshin.
Vig Garuga
Cop brawl.

How do you even know if there's a vig in this setup?

[Garuga]

I’ll go ahead and announce the scum team.

Shoshin
Garuga
Brawl

We lynch Shoshin.
Vig Garuga
Cop brawl.

Your reads are dead-on BTW.

[Garuga]

VOTE: Shoshin