Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[havingfitz]

I'm v/la until Monday. Mother's day + weekend and such.

i'm thinking ideally we just lynch DV today (the most optimal of optimal lynches possible) and go from there

Do you have a DV policy lynch policy? I'm town and would prefer not to die day one so perhaps you could wait until he's in a group that doesn't contain me to satisfy your DV-craving.

I would like to suggest that if both of you survive today and tonight...that scum put you in the same group. That would be fun.

[havingfitz]

Nice sig block Pine. Congrats.

[havingfitz]

Post weekend catch up:

Not going to set up speculate...at least going to try not to. Unless Eddie in fact knows something we don't. (22, 73)

@zMuff...at this point in the game you absolutely are advocating a policy lynch on DV. You want him lynched (and therfore his group as well) solely on the basis of being DV. And why don't you like 31 zShade? Ah...because I say I'm town. Good reason. I think you're denial of a DV policy is more suspect.

@NSG...you do tend to read me well. Why are you stating this here?

lol at Wisdom's confidence. I have 3 games with zMuff aside from this one. iirc he typically suspects me.

I do not want to know what SEPPUKU is.

@SirCakez...that depends on who the scum are and whether they are familiar with Kokichi or your's mislynchability. Scum could have no experience with Koki (or you) and one or both of you could be in your groups for no particular reason. i.e. your mislynchability/grouping could very likely be completely independent of his mislynchability/grouping.

@Cakez...so I have 2 posts and the one that for lame reasons is found to be suspect by zMuff you have no problem with...but the one where I congratulate Pine on the arrival of a new child does? That's f'd up and lamer than the zMuff shade.

VOTE: Group 3

@Wisdom...what does the lack of Group 2 suspicions signal to you? Depending on the distribution of scum...scum could be completely indifferent to which group goes and just go with the flow. And town just might not be suspecting your group. Koki seems to be the only one really getting negative attention in your group. From non-G2 town's pov is eliminating Koki worth losing you or BuJaber or Pine? I don't have any recollection of riku so not sure if he is save worthy. Your group imo would only be worth consideration if there was reason to believe there was 2 scum in it. (I see you discuss this later but I'll leave my comments fwiw).

@Dramonic...I feel the same way about you and your group.

I was agreeing with BuJaber's post 167 until he annointed me scum for being a late poster. What do you mean by late poster? Actually being late to enter the game or lack of posting? Both of which for me would be lacking due to the game starting on a weekend evening and my general lack of mafia'ing over any given weekend. I.e. being shaded for NAI (for me at least) stuff is shady. That said...BuJaber seems town.

And again...@BuJaber...how have you convinced yourself there is scum in G1...and if so...I think the math at the bottom of your post is wrong. If you think there is for sure 1 (or 2 even) scum in G1...then wouldn't there be a 1 in 2 chance one of the remaining groups would contain 0 scum?

More crock of shit zMuff shading G1 to end this post. You feel worse about G1 based on 3 combined posts by me and DV + NSG prob town + null Eddie with an evil sounding name? That's weak shit. And your tl:dr is basically the same thing BuJaber said about scum distro and riding town (as I mention independently earlier in this catch up post albeit posting chronologically after both of you). Still liking my G3 vote.

Done.


I said no set up spec but screw it...

I think my group is all town.
I think G3 could have 2 scum in it.
I think G2 probably has 1. Having the most people in it is too wifomy imo to consider G2 for 2 scum. I don't think scum would do that. If there is a scum distro other than 1-1-1 (which my G1 reads would indicate) then I think the 2 would be in G3.

Still like my G3 vote.

Of the poeple in G3 I think RMJ is town.
In G2 I think BuJaber and Wisdom are town.

Anyone not mentioned is TBD.

[havingfitz]

@Fitz what makes you townread Eddie Cane and DV?

Eddie for no scum pings and softing group 3 conf scum.
DVs 218 felt town to me. Why? Because. Gut. Felt town.

Why were those the only town reads of mine you were interested in?

[havingfitz]

and softing group 3 conf scum.

?

This:

no. 3 is confirmed to have xcum.

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-26 22:30:21).

if you're hinting at role information, be explicit about it

why would I be explicit about my role in twilight?

I mean

..snip...

I don't have a guilty, no. If I am a PR it is unrelated to this push.

Which he flat out says later...

(Technically it says no night action)

@Mod: confirm/deny that this is mountainous?

its not

-pr soft

[havingfitz]

Either Koki is lying and is scum or is telling the truth and scum is in G2. Which I suspect anyway (i.e. Koki).

Perhaps 1 scum trying to save 2 scum?

G2 or G3 work for me though I still prefer G3.

[havingfitz]

or hes lying and hes town which is the most likely

dont be so binary

I considered that but I was getting a quick phone post in and was being too succinct.

[havingfitz]

okay i'm bored of my "reaction test"

group 3 has scum because Muffin either rolled scum, therefore it has scum, or he rolled town and scum either did a 1 / 1 / 1 split or they put a couple with Muffin because nobody wants to lynch a legend on the first game back. the latter works depending on who in this game would ahve known muffin even by name aside myself, so if muffin could do a list that'd be swell and if people want to self-identify that's townpoints. fits with it being the old tryhard group. my first choice is not swapping because its possible ROJ is one of the scum there and switching is a liability. obviously, this is wifom city but i don't see a better place to push and this is by far the best grouping. i think wisdom's role probably makes him town, unfortunately.

I couldn't understand what you were getting at with this post because my eyes kept glazing over. Two things I took from it were you think zMuff is a legend. And you want to know who knows him? I think this is my 4th game with him. iirc we usually end up suspecting each other. I could be wrong...but that seems familiar.

[havingfitz]

dram why does koki suicide like this as scum? presumably they didn't know about Wis' swap thing.

What does the Wisdom claim have to do with the Koki claim?

[havingfitz]

because wisdom was proposing swapping koki out

ah. Good point.

[havingfitz]

If we know there is scum in G2 if we believe Koki's claim...why would we swap someone out of G2 (potentially not the scum) into group three (for potentially a G3 scum) and then vote out G3...potentially helping scum dodge a bullet instead of getting lynched?

If people believe Koki's claim and that he is town wouldn't the best move be to swap him into G3 for anyone (potentially a G3 scum) and vote out G2 for possibly 2 scum removed.

[havingfitz]

nothing explains all these trs on realmen tho

You are omitting RMOJ from all your scum scenarios...why are you questioning people's tr on him/them/she/it if you aren't scum sorting him/them/she/it?

[havingfitz]

everyone is confident in pine/riku scum so the logic goes if it's not one of them we get the other next day
and there's three pretty confident townreads in 2 (buj, wis, koki) that are worth saving

Then we should be swapping pine for whoever the most likely to be town in withing G3. If that RMOJ or zMuff...the man...the " "legend" "...the claimer? Or if riku is suspect as well...zMuff could swap himself with riku to double G3's scum prospects.

[havingfitz]

read my posts on this page again

I read realmen in post 606 but it didn't register. I had RMOJ on the brain.

[havingfitz]

Wisdom is the one who claimed.

There's 3 claims atm with a 4th soft.

flip....p.edit p.edit p.edit p.edit...

[havingfitz]

why would you target the bigger group and your own group

From his town!POV every group would have 4 unknowns.

[havingfitz]

does anybody NOT townread muffin?

I wasn't townreading him. I think he's been better later than earlier and I'm still thinking his claim over.

[havingfitz]

if it makes things easier, im town

That helps.

[havingfitz]

12 pages overnight...I'm phone-posting and getting an unusuallly sh*t signal. Pardon the lack of posting so far this morning.

Catching up from my last post at bottom pg 26:

Is suicidal Pine a throw in the towel scum tell or could he just be town who is confident that whatever group he winds up in (2 or 3) will contain scum, and dying will still be for the good of town? I lean town on Pine btw.

@Dram...how does the Koki claim make Wisdom's role anti-town? I think the ability to swap players who are strongly read one way or the other to suit the best interests of the town majority is a pretty powerful tool for town. Not sure I feel the same way about the zMuff claim. That seems more self-serving as opposed to Wisdom's which feels like it's for the good of all. I believe the 3 claims in this order: Wisdom, Koki, zMuff. They might all be true and town but this is the order I trust them. (Dram addresses this question a few posts later but I still disagree).

@DV...your reads are cr@p. I am town. I don't get the sr on Pine. Wisdom is way too low. Dramonic is way too high. What's the saying...your opinion is like an arsehole...it stinks?

@DV...so basically you aren't feeling too good about any of the claims.

@BuJaber...this results in Wisdom and zMuff being in G3 with RMOJ and Dramonic. So you would then advocate a G3 lynch or a G2 lynch that contains you....Koki....that doesn't seem like a "best solution."

I think the best solution would be to POE the most likely scum from Koki's result in G2 and put them in G3 for the lynch. zMuff swaps with riku (or Pine) and Wisdom swaps Pine (or Riku) and whoever his strongest remaining TR in G3 is. This ends up with all three pr claims in G2 plus BuJaber and Wisdom's G3 townread. And G3 is left with Pine, Riku, and 2 of (RMOJ/Dram/SirCakez).

And depending on the outcome we might be able to confirm Koki's claim.

@DV...wrt to your logic on scum reading me. Do you not think zMuff's early opinion towards you came across as a policy lynch? I did and his refusal to acknowledge it despite practically calling it what it was seemed deceitful / evasive to me. And iirc I only discussed it over the span of two posts. And we are all in the same game. I am coming up with my own opinions/comments. If they mirror those of others that is not intentional and they should be looked at as a broader confirmation of whatever comment or opinion you are inferring I am basing something on. Point is...we're all basing our comments on the same shit as everyone else. There's going to be overlap or redundancies.

RMOJ's schtick is becoming tiresome. And this suggestion is terrible. smh...

@Wisdom...I don't think my comment you are quoting has been "explained." Also...
- We risk losing 3 or 4 townies regardless of which group we lynch.
- My lynch scenario did not include Koki.
- My scenario was based on the hypothetical situation where based on Koki's result...G2 was the preferred lynch and you were unable to move yourself. With zMuff's claim later on this changes things.
- You don't call yourself locktown. Or Koki ftm... I believe you are town. Koki might be town. But neither of you is "locktown" imo.

@Wisdom...if you think there is such a high likelihood of riku or Pine being scum then the optimal play is to get them both in the lynch group. Winding up with 2 (or 3?) scum lynched D1 would be lights out for scum.

@Wisdom...I'm not scum. What about my play seems off?

@Eddie...swap Cakez with Koki and lynch which group? 3? So you think Koki is lying and you tr Cakez?

@DV...this is stupid. Then you ensure you lose Wisdom or Koki...or both. And pants on head agreement by zMuff in #876.

Caught up.

My current reads from town to scum are:

BuJaber, Wisdom, DV.......................Eddie, Pine, zMuff.......NSG (needs to do more), RMOJ..... SirCakez, dramonic, riku.

p.edit...and I've been trying to post this for a few hours and in the meantime the game has grown 5 more pages that I have not read yet. So not entirely caught up.

[havingfitz]

@Implosion: You wouldn't allow sexism or homophobia in a game and this is just a different flavor of the same type of bullshit. Do something about RMOJ

It's a stupid schtick. I find your thin skinned "offense" very hypocritical given you have no problem telling Wisdom and BuJaber to both fuck off. I find that language bullying and demeaning. Surely implosion wouldn't allow that in this game. Something something about stones and glass houses.

[havingfitz]

And what zMuff said.

[havingfitz]

Good morning.

Happy scumday Dram.

I'm waiting for zMuff's switch (or G3 L-1) to vote.

zMuff...did you say whether your switch resets votes? I assume it does.

[havingfitz]

But again, this would be a waste
Ideally I want to lynch as many I can from {Pine, Riku, muffin, Cakez, Eddie, Fitz} and save as many as I can from the rest

Wisdom...I try not to get too OMGUSy but your continued mention of me as a scum suspect is bothering me.

Why do you suspect me?

We have

DV

who suspects me for crappass reasons like (in summary)

1)

I made mention of zMuff pushing a PL on him (DV) for a grand total of 2 whole posts." zMuff who I might add is currently garnering a fair amount of suspicion from you. And

2)

because some of the things I have said have been mentioned by others. Well no fcuking sh*t. We're all reading the same game. Some people will come to similar conclusions as others (independently or not). DV ignored my catch up post comments directed at him which go a bit more in detail about his failread.

Then there is

Cakez

who didn't like the fact I posted a one liner over the weekend (while v/LA) congratulating Pine on becoming a dad and that I didn't see fit to make comments on actaul game related stuff. there wasn't anything I had seen that deserved a comment for the brief check in amoutn of time I was devoting mafia...which on weekends is usually little to none. I noticed Pine's sig and thought it deserved an atta boy. So sue me.

Someone, idnr, thought I was suspect for posting late in the game? In a game that opened on a Saturday (while I don't care about mafia) + see previous weekend activity thoughts. Lamest (not Lamist or LAMIST or La Mist) NAI shade attempt ever. On par with newborn congratulations fluff posting shade. smh.

And you..

Wisdom

...if you detailed your reasons idnr what they were. I think I recall "doesn't feel like town fitz" or similar. Awesome.

So I still think Wisdom is town which makes his read on me all the more annoying because I think he tends to read me well. Which makes me question my read on him.

Continuing to act like you (and Koki) are somehow confirmed town is ridiculous and annoying. There is no reason town (other than coming to a natural read conclusion of some sort) should consider you anything more than a strong town read. Locktown? Hell no.

I think Wisdom's claim is probably the most townish of the four. Koki's is probably 2nd. I think it would be an easy claim for scum to fake but it could also backfire as I think it's a reasonable claim to expect in this set up and a cc could have doomed him. And I think both the self moving related claims are iffy. I doubt they are both scum. I think it's vey likely at least one of them is scum though. A save your ass PR seems like a good thing for scum to have.

I think moving players around too much is going to completely dilute town!Koki's result.

I still like a G3 lynch over G2 or G1. If anyone else is getting moved in to G3 I think it should be someone from G2. I do not care (and I'm sure Cakez doesn't care if I care) whether Cakez is in G3 when it's lynched. I think following through on Wisdom's move of riku into D3 and possibly clearing up all the ????? that people have with Pine is the most movement we should consider.

If G3 hit's 2 or more scum (to include one of the G2 swaps) I think Koki is locktown and Wisdom is close behind.
If G3 hit's scum but not from the G2 swaps I think both Koki and Wis credibility takes a hit. But nothing confirmed.
I think G1 should be left out of the shuffling and not targeted today at least.

[havingfitz]

I think he tends to read me well

we have two completed games together, one ages ago
Where does this come from

I have it at 4. I thought it was more. 3 ages ago. Off most recent sample (Beefster game). Both town and you strong tr me.

[havingfitz]

I think G1 should be left out of the shuffling and not targeted today at least.

Why? What makes G1 town?

I didn't say my reason for this comment was because G1 is all town. I gave my reason.

[havingfitz]

I still think Wisdom is town

why?

Early on...general agreement with things he said. Effort.
Gut. Seemed to come from town. My read on him's taken a hit a bit with his sheeping of DVs shitty case on me. Awkward? What? Moreso now for his pr which I think leans townish and my own stubbornness.

[havingfitz]

Does your swap reset votes?

[havingfitz]

So what does it matter if anymore voting occurs in your decision process?

[havingfitz]

Wisdom if my brain is not making up memories you claimes before koki yes?

I thought Koki claimed first.

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Group 3

That's L-1.

[havingfitz]

Weekend catch up.

@Koki...there is no think...we are in LYLO. The only way we wouldn't have been in LYLO would be if there was a group with one player and it was lynched. As it stands...if the scum distro isn't 1-1-1 we are in LYLO.

Didn't Eddie soft a pr as well? So we have one group with 3 prs...2 used and one TBD. [p.edit this is apparently soon to be confirmed due to Eddie's potential move of Koki].

@BuJaber...do you seriously not know what Wisdom gains from buddying/white knighting you? For starters...what's your read on Wisdom and is it in part based on his read of you? That's the only reason I can see you giving in fact for TRing him. iirc.

@Wisdom...you're saying you think scum would put all their eggs in one basket today? And Eddie's move of Koki (pending it actually happening) is for show? I'll worry about alignment based links for Koki when he flips.

Also...if Koki IS the only scum in G3...a G3 lynch = game over. (ninja'd by Wisdom 1711).

Before Eddie's move I was leaning towards scum doing a distro of 1-1-1. I think there is no way in he// scum puts all three of their players in the same group.

Pre-Eddie move...if we think there is a 1-1-1 distro then I think G1 should be lynched. I tr Wisdom yesterday but his role in getting 4 townies in G3 lynched yesterday cannot go ignored. I think scum knows Wisdom is likely to be higly suspected today and puts him with a generally well regarded player in NSG. I think NSG is probably town and is a sacrificial price town would have to pay to eliminate Wisdom. Additionally...it only costs town 1 player versus the 2 or 3 townies a mislynch could cost voting out a different group.

I do not think both Wisdom and NSG are scum.

I was on the fence with G2. I think there is a strong likelihood that zMuff OR Koki are scum. I doubt they are both scum as putting then in the same group would be scum suicide IMO given how D1 played out. Of the two I lean scum towards zMuff. I think Eddie is town. His rage feels legit.

I think in my group the best bet at scum from a 1-1-1 pov is RMOJ. I think BuJaber is town. His play has been from a similar mindset that I have despite making the occasional comment I may have disagreed with. The majority of his thoughts have paralleled mine. RMOJ only G3 scum option imo via POE subtracting myself and Bujaber. I need to ISO RMOJ. Now that Koki is in G3 (presumably) I still think G3 has at most 1 scum.

I'm leaning G1 or G2 for my vote but I'm in no rush to place it. I think they both likely contain 1 scum and the loss of 1 town makes both those groups a better option than G3 unless there was a concensus that Eddie got it right and G3 now contains 2 scum.

IMM it comes down to who I suspect more...Wisdom or zMuff. TBD.

[havingfitz]

Why would a zmuff/eddie/koki scum team not do a 1-1-1 scum distro across all the groups and then wait to see how groups were being read before doing a move?

If the scum team is zmuff/eddie/koki they are wearing their pants on their heads.

[havingfitz]

its going to be something like kokichi/realmen/nsg and my reads are crap

If you think nsg is an option and you're town...no way do you vote G3 while caveating your reads are crap. Yours should appeal to you most as it's not a potential town loss.

You're all over the place today imo. I think your group (based on you...not nsg) is the safest vote.

VOTE: Group 1

[havingfitz]

The potential scum distro you outline Wisdom would result in a town loss voting G3 if youb are right. Who does that! Not town.

[havingfitz]

The potential scum distro you outline Wisdom would result in a town loss voting G3 if youb are right. Who does that! Not town.

Disregard...thought you had eddie...not rmoj.

[havingfitz]

Offline till tonight or tomorrow.
UNVOTE: for thinking.

[havingfitz]

Buj...I don't think Eddie is scum.
I think he screwed up using his move on Koki.
There's no way G3 is a consideration imo as unless it has 2 or more scum....town lose. At best I think rmoj could be scum. Or slimmer Koki.
I see no way in bleep that scum created a group with 2+ scum in it today.
If Eddie was scum his lack of mention towards G1 is very suspect.
If he's town his opinion is no better than any other townie and tarnished imo by the koki move to g3.
I'm still leaning group 1 for Wisdom's sake though his self vote has me wanting to look nsg over closer.

[havingfitz]

I see no way in bleep that scum created a group with 2+ scum in it today.

kokichi wasnt in g3 in the groups scum made though

I'm not talking about the post Koki move groups.

[havingfitz]

Still no explanation for wisdom buddying me

@BuJaber...do you seriously not know what Wisdom gains from buddying/white knighting you? For starters...what's your read on Wisdom and is it in part based on his read of you? That's the only reason I can see you giving in fact for TRing him. iirc.

[havingfitz]

you were talking about why you're not considering voting g3

I'm not sure what you're getting at? I explained why I think G3 isn't an option.

I realize Koki has moved groups. My G3 opinion is the same...stronger with him in G3 as it still allows scum to sacrifice one member and still win.

When the groups were 2-3-3 losing 1 scum would not equal a win.

[havingfitz]

RL busy yesterday. Will effort to catch up this morning.

[havingfitz]

Catching up from page 70 for no specific reason. OCDness I suppose.

Post 1736 by Wisdom is odd. Wisdom is using Koki's guilty result in justifying his read change on Koki. So if you believe (or know) Koki's guily is legit...how can you say the guilty is either on him (Koki) or BuJaber? It's like you are dismissing something you know to be true to support something that isn't. You also leave out the fact you are in the guilty group as well. smh....

Koki's group swap confirmed by mod.

@Wisdom...why in an nsg, Eddie, Koki scenario is G1 not an option? You have the suspicions you garnered from D1. You infer NSG could be scum. I prefer G1 over G2 for those reasons alone. If we are wrong on you (and on NSG) and still get at least one scum in G1...that prevents us from (in your case) having to deal with heavy suspicions tomorrow towards you. I think zMuff is more a suspect due to set up spec? And I'm not even sure what the scumreading of Eddie is about other than his Koki move this morning.

@zMuff...I'm under the impression Eddie moved Koki to G3 and is advocating a G3 lynch? Is that not correct?

@Wisdom...WTF? And now Wisdom has backtracked and determined Eddie is town. mmkay?

@NSG...what is your read on Wisdom?

LOL @NSG...so scum is me, RMOJ and Bujaber? So all the PR claims are town? So Eddie is actually town and just threw caution to the wind and move Koki to G3? This is probably the first post by you that I start to think you could be scum.

@NSG...why do you ask Wisdom to unvote G3 when 1) there isn't a very good chance it is going to be quicklynched considering half the game is in it and 2) you just got done hypothesizing that there were three scum in it. ???????

This Wisdom post felt like it was coming from town. :/

Couldn't disagree more with NSG here. NSG TR officially gone.

The last line of this BuJaber post has me shaking my head. Same thing I comment about on Wisdom above. Using Koki's guilty to implicate a group that includes Koki. If you believe Koki's claim you can not believe he is scum. Am I wrong?

I'm around post 1835 and BuJaber is throwing out so many options my head is spinning. ffs.

Losts of zMuff and BuJaber speculating going on. I'm skimming walls.

@ Bujaber...how does scum Eddie

confirm

scum Koki?

@Wisdom...how could there have been "a worse result than we actually got" wrt the D1 group lynch? I would say losing 4 town and no scum was pretty fcuking bad. If you have moved Koki out of G2 and we'd lynched G2...there's no gaurantee we wouldn't have hit 1 or 2 scum.

Caught up again.

Current thoughts/reads:

Wisdom...I keep going back and forth on this one. I townread him D1. On D2 I started thinking he was scum and his early D2 actions did nothing to change that. Then his more recent posting has me second guessing my read on him and he could be town.

read

- idfk maybe town

NSG...for some reason I was townreading (or leaning?) on NSG for D1 evenb though there was no a lot to go off of. Then on D2 my read on her had taken a steady dive. Still not that active and what activity there has been today I have found very questionable/illogical (see comments above).

read

- trending scum.

zMuff...I suspected zMuff D1 and came in today with him high on my radar. I've liked a lot of what he has had to say today though.

read

- weak scum read.

Eddie...I don't really remember (not going back to check) what my read on Eddie D1 was. I think it was a tr? Today he has felt town. His pissy attitude and disgust feel like they are coming from town. When he is scum I think his pissiness and disgust feel fake.

read

- town lean

Koki...I think Koki's claim is legit. I had some doubts along the lines of what Eddie pointed out...but it was more focused on the public actions of other PRs moreso that specifically regarding the Protector PR. I liked Koki's description of why his role could not be public. If I'm going to test the Koki or Wisdom (or from mypov BuJaber too) has to be scum...I'd rather confirm Koki based on Wisdom than the other way around (aka G3 = baaad option).

read

- town

RMOJ...Don't really recall my read on him D1. I think it leaned town. Today...not leaning town so much. POE points to him being a higher suspect and his activity today has been unacceptable.

BuJaber...I've been town reading him the entire game and continue today. I've thought much of what he has said comes from a similar mindset as me and I think he is genuinely trying to sort out the game. The only things I have raised an eyebrow on him about are mentioned above. He does seem a bit inflexible in his options today but that would depend I guess on how strong one's reads were. So good on him.

[havingfitz]

keep reading. im voting G1

Missed it.

Wisdom was voting G1.

Yea...I missed it. Disregard that point.

Everybody please order the 4 people in g1 and g2 in terms of how likely you think they flip scum.

1a. NSG
1b. Wisdom



3. zMuff



4. Eddie

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Group 1

[havingfitz]

how is eddie 4

I suspect him less than the other three. The only change I would consider would be swapping him and zMuff. Basically the same end result (suspecting G1 more than G2).

[havingfitz]

you do not see him doing this move if hes scum with nsg and kokichi?

I don't think koki is scum.

[havingfitz]

Wow...wake up and the game is over. lol

Good job scum mates. See...all that doom and gloom over me going with a 2-1-0 scum distro was all for naught. Play to win

I enjoyed playing with everyone. It was a very enjoyable game.

@implosion...I really enjoyed the set up. Was this the first time a partition game has been done? I could not find another.

Happy Memorial Day to those in the US.

Woot woot!

[havingfitz]

Fitz is town and just being stupid

I enjoyed this post lol....

[havingfitz]

fitz kind of went against the wishes of the others and submitted the d2 partition just because he didnt like his placement in it

You need to read again. I pushed for 2-1-0 over 1-1-1 because with proper play the win was attainable. I compromised on DV kill (fortunately) for 2-1-0...so I submitted the most recent 2-1-0 proposal that I was comfortable with. In hindsight I'm glad I didn't go with my initial lineup suggestion.

But I wasn't bothered with my placement. I went against wishes of others for the chance to win D2. I didn't want a D3.

Perfect scum win?

[havingfitz]

Cake...why didn't you swap out of G3 D1?

[havingfitz]

tinfoil theory 3: muffinman is scum and we are all going to die in an abyss of dark hell with that horrid wolf thing appearing in your nightmares. in this case REALMEN will be the REAL MAN to take on the MUFFIN MAN and to bring peace, justice, and light to this world. then set your mafia theme to mafsilver.

called it

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