Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

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VOTE: muffinman

i've always wanted to do this

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VOTE: group 3

if you are a REAL MAN, vote your own group

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hey muffinman. i summon you. come online and talk to me.

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When a majority of votes is reached on a group, all players in that group will be lynched. If no majority exists at deadline, whichever group has the most votes will be lynched. In case of a tie at deadline, whichever group has the oldest most-recent vote (that is, whichever group was the first to reach its current number of votes) will be lynched. If no votes are placed when deadline is reached, the mafia will immediately win.


holy fuckaroonie

this is what happens when you don't read the rules

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i, like, believed that the group that gets voted would get to another phase where everyone in the town chooses to lynch one person in that specific group

this is way overkill

we could lose in 1 or 2 days

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tinfoil theory: scum put 2 scum in group 3 containing muffinman and me, the only MEN in this game, so that town wouldn't risk lynching muffinman and therefore group 3 and therefore the scum survive day 1 with ease

VOTE: group 3

still so down for this

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tinfoil theory 2: scum put no scum in group 3 containing muffinman and me, the only MEN in this game, but put scummy-looking people like dramonic and sircakez in the same group. they think REAL MEN is scummy so they do that too. then, people will be convinced to mislynch group 3 and all 4 town die and therefore the scum kill the only MEN in this game day 1 with ease

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tinfoil theory 3: muffinman is scum and we are all going to die in an abyss of dark hell with that horrid wolf thing appearing in your nightmares. in this case REALMEN will be the REAL MAN to take on the MUFFIN MAN and to bring peace, justice, and light to this world. then set your mafia theme to mafsilver.

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tinfoil theory 4: scum put 2 scum in group 3 containing muffinman and me, the only MEN in this game, so that even if scum are caught and group 3 is lynched, the only REAL MEN in the game die together with them.

VOTE: group 3

but REAL MEN aren't afraid to die with honor!!

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tinfoil theory: scum put 2 scum in group 3 containing muffinman and me, the only MEN in this game, so that town wouldn't risk lynching muffinman and therefore group 3 and therefore the scum survive day 1 with ease

VOTE: group 3

still so down for this

pretty much, and accounts for scum muffin too.

oh, user eddie cane, i have heard so much about you, REAL MEN is so glad to meet you, welcome to this game, what a pleasure to see such a long lost friend

now, is your main nero caine?

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i am actually EddieFenix

EDDIEFENIX! AH YES! THE FENIX OF LEGEND!

truly, you must be a legendary player, pleased to meet your acquaintance, he's won 4 scummies, 2 mafia championships, and uh, dozens of beer pong games that i can never get the hang of

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Realmen can be town too for now.

i'm pretty sure your townread of kokichi comes from meta. whats your basis for the townread on me?

i know gals like REAL MEN, but still, i'm interested in your explanation.

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tinfoil theory 5: scumteam happens to be n00bs who have no idea who muffinman is, and didnt partition based on him, and therefore will automatically lose the game because they are n00bs!

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2 has Pine in addition to me
2 has one more person to account for scum losing members
Certain if not most people in this playerlist probably don't have much experience with zmuffin

2 is better than 3

scum tier list:

muffinman --> wisdom -----------------------------------------> pine

who's accounting for what?

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REAL MEN DONT NEED TINFOIL TO FIND SCUM

REAL MEN NEED TINFOIL TO WRAP THEIR PIZZA FOR THE MICROWAVE

REAL MEN NEED HOT PIZZA TO FIND SCUM

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SIR CAKEZ IS AFRAID OF A MANLY DEATH

SIR CAKEZ IS SCUM

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I take your manly death and raise you SEPPUKU

YES!! SEPPUKU FOR HONOR AND GLORY!!

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scum tier list:

muffinman --> wisdom -----------------------------------------> pine

who's accounting for what?

dont agree

hm, you're right, it should be


REAL MEN ----> muffinman --> wisdom -----------------------------------------> pine

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I'm trying to think of a reason I'm in this group. I am known for being mislynched a lot, so maybe that's why I'm in the group with 5.

who exactly in this playerlist do you think would 'know' this information and deliberately put you there?

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That there are scum in group 2 like ive said already

wisdom is supporting for the lynch of his own group

he is begging us to let him DIE WITH HONOR

WISDOM, YOU ARE A MAN! I WILL HELP YOU GRANT YOUR REQUEST!

as the kind and gentle MAN i am

VOTE: group 2

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So nobody in group 1 is voting for group 1?

@Cake - yes I think so. I think muffin and RMOJ were trying to wind people up. I'm not saying it's necessarily scummy but it's anti-town. RMOJ also used a whole lot of words to basically say "scum must be in group 3 because they put me in group 3". (If I misunderstood tell me but I think that's a concise summary of all of his theories). This is more or less what anybody who voted for their own group has said, so why did RMOJ need to do it in a 'showy' way?

BECAUSE I AM A REAL MAN!

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if you think i'm scum then vote me. be a MAN not a

pussy

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hi is town here for sure

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I mean BOOJABER

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muffin is town too so I suspect current reality is tinfoil theory #1

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bad? like losing to... nah, it's not worth it anymore

bad? like losing to a seven year old at chess?

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one begins with “post 18x” and the other two begin with “post 16x”... so it’s the last one!

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Wisdom is town

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see what I don’t like about this setup is that it’s so fucking scumsided.

in normal games for every scum that die, a town gets nightkilled

over here a fuckton of town die even if we bag a scum because of this AoE group bullshit

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With varying degrees of subtlety group 3 has people from each of the 3 groups willing to vote for it.
Could be scum lead.


Pedit - RMOJ yeah but they still have to keep doing these partititions every day thereafter. It might end faster but I think it's probably balanced.

one more time I hear “BULLSHIT THEORY HERE is SCUM LED” im going to kill a fucking pigeon right here

holy fuck! We are 10 town to 3 scum, we out number them 3 to 1! NOTHING is scum led, everything is town led! fuck!

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2 of {Kokichi, Pine, Riku}
1 of {Eddie, Realmen, Cakez}

see these partitions are much better but NOOOO we have to follow shit ass bullshit SCUM-MADE partitions where EVERYONE dies

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Okay maybe "scum-led" is too agressive... how about "scum-influenced". You don't think 3 scum can "inception" town into getting 7 votes together?

Scum never have majority. What they have is knowledge that they use to manipulate townies to vote for the wagon they want.

nope, scum dont have as much influence over town as you think they do

the only difference between scum and town is that scum is more motivated to give the wrong answer

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Let's just bite the bullet and vote group 2.
Worst case scenario we have 5-3 left but we would know for sure that one groups 1 & 3 HAD to have at least 2 scum in it, which would make associative reads easier.

Basically that worst case scenario doesn't seem terrible so it's worth it.

let's go through this scenario once

today: 4 - 5 - 4

best case: we win instantly (unlikely)

worst case: all are town.

let's see the worst case for tomorrow: 5-3

what if scum go: 3 - 3 - 2, where scum hide 1 - 1 - 1

lynch a group of 3, we end with 5 players, 3-2,

the next day, 2 - 2 - 1, lynch wrong and lose

hmm, so if scum go 1 - 1 - 1 tomorrow even with a group 2 full mislynch today, we are in permanent lylo

let's try another arrangement:

2 - 0 - 1 tomorrow, where it's 3 - 3 - 2

if we lynch wrong, e.g. the group of 3, we end with 3 - 2, and its an autoloss.

lynching correctly gives us 3 - 2 with 4 town to 1 scum.

the following day, 2 - 2 - 1 again. lynch wrongly and 2 towns die, we end up with 2 town to 1 scum, again permanent lylo


hmm

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I JUST REMEMBERED SCUM HAVE A FREE NIGHTKILL LIKE WHAT

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i feel that in this game specifically, townhunting is useless here because your favorite obvtownies are going to die anyway when placed in a partition with scum

only good ol' scumhunting is needed in this game!

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see what I don’t like about this setup is that it’s so fucking scumsided.

in normal games for every scum that die, a town gets nightkilled

over here a fuckton of town die even if we bag a scum because of this AoE group bullshit

meh, that's true, but it's also true that this game is similar to nightless in that scum don't have much of an easy ability to just remove the voices they don't want to hear - they have to do it through dayplay.

scum have way more control over here in this game than nightless because scum control the partitions

in a nightless they can't kill obvtown or conftown

over here they just put all the obvtown and conftown in a partition with their n00best teammate and its wham-a-slam

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okay so nsg is town. not like that's any use to me because in this game we need to find scum. but it's a step forward!

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I would not mind offing 2 but I feel like 1 is our best bet still. Gal I've talked about, Eddie Cane and fitz are super underwhelming. DV not super impressive either.

it's been ~20 hours since either of eddie cane or fitz posted. what makes them underwhelming to you?

maybe it's just hypersensitivity to my own group, but i feel like people have been "okay with" group 1 going since the start of the game even without much real reasoning. i'm not sure why that would be specifically, but that's how it feels.

I'm definitely not underwhelming. I also haven't done much, so I'm probably not overwhelming. I'm just whelming.

BUT ARE YOU WAILMER???

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I think SirCakez is scum.

i think so too!

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i don't think that actually makes sense.

it actually does, to be honest

"i hate everyone from group 1 the most so there must be scum there"

it's not so hard to pick 1 out of 3

even tho im down with sircakez scum

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i think the scum are cakez/dramonic/deasvail

hence,

VOTE: group 3

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the overwhelming and surprising number of REAL MEN in group 2 who are so EAGER TO DIE WITH HONOR leads me to think that they are NOT SCUM

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OKAY FOLKS TIME TO DO A MAN SWAP

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I've lied to push a lynch I wanted before as town, but it wasn't on

myself

EDIT: I don't need to shade Kokichi I called him scum like 3 posts in <_<

YES THE GLORIOUS MANLY FAKEGUILTY ON TOWN

wait that doesn't sound very MANLY

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REAL MEN'S SUGGESTION FOR SWAP

MUFFIN SWAPS HIMSELF INTO GROUP 2 WITH WISDOM

WISDOM SWAPS KOKICHI OUT OF GROUP 2 INTO GROUP 3 AND CAKEZ INTO GROUP 2

LYNCH GROUP 2

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OR MAYBE BUJABER OUT OF GROUP 2 THAT WORKS TOO

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PS: i ain't dying for your sins, REAL MAN

WELL THEN JESUS START DOING YOUR JOB

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RMOJ putting koki and dramon in the group that we aren't lynching doesn't work because one of them is confirmed scum.

We have to trust one of them and lynch the other OR lynch both.

we dont have any more swaps

we can swap you out of group 2 into group 3 and cakez into group 2 would that be better for you?

or do you want a dead dramonic instead of a dead cake?

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shut the FUCK up already WISDOM

TIME TO BE A MAN

HURRY UP AND DO YOUR MANSWAP FOR YOUR SCUMMIEST SUSPECT IN GROUP 2 TO GROUP 3, SWAP ME OUT

LYNCH GROUP 3

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fwiw I think pine might be town here, my guess is riku actually

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do YOU have ALZHEIMERS

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try reading the CURRENT PAGE

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WISDOM

STOP TALKING

TIME TO BE A MAN

DO THE MAN SWAP

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and yes this is 100% REAL MAN SUPPORT for wisdom's MAN PLAN

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And now that im caught up
Unless i see a rational response on why I shouldnt swap Pine for realmen and lynch group3, thats what Im doing and then I am forcing your hand because youre not going to lynch g2 without Pine in it.

the only argument is if Pine is really the scum or is it riku

thats the only debate here

i think its riku and not pine but we'll know tomorrow

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my reasoning:

PINE IS BEING A REAL MAN AND WILLING TO DIE WITH HONOR

riku isn't so much

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the only argument is if Pine is really the scum or is it riku

thats the only debate here

i think its riku and not pine but we'll know tomorrow

Yep, if Pine flips town riku is confscum tomorrow so still a win

that's a matter of preference but ok

anyway just do your MAN swap im bored and want some action

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YES MUFFIN BEG FOR YOUR LIFE INSTEAD OF CHOOSING AN HONORABLE DEATH

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REAL MEN is just hoping fitz is town and its just 2 of {cakez, muffin, dram}

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my reasoning:

PINE IS BEING A REAL MAN AND WILLING TO DIE WITH HONOR

riku isn't so much

Explain

REAL MEN ARE WILLING TO DIE WITH HONOR

you are only a half man coward

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my reasoning:

PINE IS BEING A REAL MAN AND WILLING TO DIE WITH HONOR

riku isn't so much

Explain

REAL MEN ARE WILLING TO DIE WITH HONOR

you are only a half man coward

either explain
or explain
get it?
Explain

how about NO?

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the LOGIC is WISDOM AND KOKI ARE BOTH TOWN

and the POSSIBILITY of swapping WRONG is LOW

WHO the FUCK knows? maybe koki is town lying and he just said "group 2 has guaranteed 1 scum" because GUESS WHAT PURE PROBABILITY WOULD MAKE HIM CORRECT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT

the LOGIC FLAW in your UNMANLY PLAN is that these scenarios

- kokichi scum with wisdom - it's pretty obvious why the plan is stupid in this case
- wisdom scum, kokichi town - wisdom will be saving scum here (well, not certainly, there are possibilities of gambits, but let's assume he doesn't) and town gets fucked over trying to figure out what happened
- wisdom town, kokichi scum - best case scenario, the group outside 2 we lynch has scum in it after the swap. worst case, none
- wisdom town, kokichi town - the possibility of swapping out a town player for a scum player and lynching an all-town group isn't worth it

are NOT EQUALLY LIKELY

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fwiw I ENJOY SEEING THE GREAT MUFFIN MAN UNMANLY BEGGING FOR HIS LIFE

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REAL MAN, i think you're wrong

wisdom, i don't care. you either go down with the ship or you go down with the other ship. pick your poison

i'm even being generous and allowing you to pick one player you want to save from that group, so long as you aren't stubborn, that seems pretty fair

in any scenario where i'm scum, that means you hit scum today and i can just as easily be lynched tomorrow

in any scenario where you're scum though, town potentially hits no scum today and has to figure out you're scum tomorrow

but MUFFIN MAN, i think you're wrong OR SCUM

if you are TOWN here RECOGNIZE that cakez or dramonic are LIKELY 1 scum here and the loss is NOT AS GREAT as group 2 having LIKELY MAX only 1 scum and everyone else being OBVTOWN

your LAME UNMANLY argument is just pure numbers RNG which is IGNORING EVERYTHING ABOUT THE GAME which is BULLSHIT considering how good your own reads are so the fact that you aren't using them makes you seem like SCUM

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anyone who's played with me knows this is town-wisdom

have you never been town-read by people as scum? or is it only by people who don't know you?

you're missing the point anyway. you keep going on and on about being obv-town. you're not. at least not to me. and i don't give two fucks whether you think i'm scum

you do the suboptimal swap and so will i

OKAY

LET ME BELIEVE YOU ARE TOWN FOR A MOMENT

YOU SWAP YOURSELF WITH RIKU

WISDOM SWAPS ME WITH PINE

WE KILL {RIKU PINE CAKEZ DRAM}

EVERYONE IS SATISFIED

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LIKE

IF BY SOME FOUL MAGIC ALL OF THOSE 4 ARE NOT KILLING 2/3

WE LITERALLY KNOW THAT SCUM BELONG IN {WISDOM, KOK, BUJ} AND CAN TAKE ACTION TOMORROW

I DONT SEE WHY YOU HAVE A FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THAT

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if you are TOWN here RECOGNIZE that cakez or dramonic are LIKELY 1 scum here and the loss is NOT AS GREAT as group 2 having LIKELY MAX only 1 scum and everyone else being OBVTOWN

yeah, no

cakez is a maybe but i currently don't think that's the case

i think they're both more town than you anyway

HA HA

HAVE IT YOUR WAY. AT BURGER KING.

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btw, dram's mod question is STILL the single most town thing anyone has done in this game

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WE KILL {RIKU PINE CAKEZ DRAM}

this actually isn't the worst idea but it's still suboptimal

i would much rather see dram live than you anyway tbh

#protectingmyscumbuddy

too bad you don't call the shots, mister wolf


go ahead and nightkill me i double dare you

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zmuffin either is scum with dram or dram is town and he wants people to townread dram so they are less inclined to lynch g3
rationally the latter is more likely as iirc dram being stupid is not out of the ordinary

"zmuffin either is scum with dram or scum without dram"

really cheeky but if zmuffin is scum with his swapout power we can't lynch him today because he can always eject button out

let's ignore him for now

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go ahead and nightkill me i double dare you

don't push me or i will

then who's gonna be laughing?

REAL MEN FEAR NOT AN HONORABLE DEATH

what more honorable way to die than being blessed by the 1 and only scum nightkill in this game

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anyone who's played with me knows this is town-wisdom

have you never been town-read by people as scum? or is it only by people who don't know you?

you're missing the point anyway. you keep going on and on about being obv-town. you're not. at least not to me. and i don't give two fucks whether you think i'm scum

you do the suboptimal swap and so will i

OKAY

LET ME BELIEVE YOU ARE TOWN FOR A MOMENT

YOU SWAP YOURSELF WITH RIKU

WISDOM SWAPS ME WITH PINE

WE KILL {RIKU PINE CAKEZ DRAM}

EVERYONE IS SATISFIED

OPTIMAL PLAN NOW^

ONLY IF MUFFIN IS TOWN

ELSE WE JUST USE WISDOM'S PLAN

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people who want to lynch group 2 are somehow okay with throwing the baby out with the bathwater

VOTE: group 3

this is a MANVOTE

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@wisdom

why havent you made the swap yet? or are you waiting for the host to announce it?

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Wisdom, I'm turned off by you pushing this you/koki conftown thing with anyone who disagrees being either stupid or scum.

they are not 'conftown' but they are certainly obvtown, definitely moreso than dram/cakez so what's not to miss?

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WITH THE FORCE OF A GREAT TYPHOON

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YES! BE A MAN

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MYSTERIOUS AS THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNN

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DEASVAIL, JOIN US, I'LL MAKE A MAN OUT OF YOU

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@wisdom

why havent you made the swap yet? or are you waiting for the host to announce it?

Because I want everyone to chip in
Ill post it inthread when I do it

Wisdom, your approach whenever someone disagrees with you is to call them either wrong or scum.

What would having people chip in possibly change?

this is NOT TRUE

at least for this game

his plan is actually optimal here

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who else needs to be MADE A MAN INTO???

WE ACHIEVE AMAZING RESULTS!!

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what don't you do as scum?

Anything I've done
Try to paint Kokichi as lying only to agree with him afterwards
Try to lynch my group only to back off afterwards because I thought of a better plan
etc etc
Its a trajectory thing. Its obvious I do things as I think them through and as things change. While as scum I'd have a certain agenda I'd be strongly pushing from the beginning.

I feel like this is probably underselling your scum game, although I'm not personally familiar with it.

this is ALSO TRUE

but REAL MEN is convinced WISDOM is town this game

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anyway i've said my piece call me when things actually start happening

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that's exactly the point

i'm not looking for a qualifier like "more likely"

how do you play mafia then? are there cops in every game you play?

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its really lame how both muffin and wisdom are underselling their scumgames here but it doesn't mean that they are scum it just means they're lame

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that's exactly the point

i'm not looking for a qualifier like "more likely"

how do you play mafia then? are there cops in every game you play?

no, but this is a silly question. an analogy would be when there are counter-claims on the table, i don't say "hey let's ignore that and lynch this other dude over here because maybe he's scum"

when there are counter claims on the table it's 1 scum vs 1 town

today its 1/2 scum vs 4/3 town

??

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what the fuck is wrong with you

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normally muffinman's posts make me go 'ooooh' and 'aaaah' and my pants get a little wet

but over here his awful logic makes me want to get a lobotomy

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i swear to god if that isnt alignment indicative then idk man

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i honestly do not care what people think of how i'm playing (i thought this was going to be a relaxing game that wouldn't require me explaining such basic things but here i am). this is the exact reason i stopped playing a couple years ago, only this time i'm not exploding in a fit of rage about it because it isn't really worth it. i'm so sick of towns doing stupid shit based on shitty assumptions that end up being wrong most of the time and i hate having to play with people who can't think logically or are so confident about something that they're willing to ignore best play

This, except I get the fits or rage.

Any use of the swapping power is 100% antitown and stupid at this juncture.

Worst case scenario of lynching group 2 as is is losing 4 town for 1 scum
Best case scenario of any other lynch and/or swap is not losing 4 town.

Anybody who considers that option 2 is superior to option 1 should just quit playing mafia, because it's honestly real fucking sad that basic logic is beyond your grasps.

Any instance of swapping needs to end up with me dead, because I have no interest in putting up with the stupidity of people in this game.
I signed up for a mafia game, not fucking kindergarten.

no, best case scenario is we swap correctly, lynch 3 scum and instantly win the game

go back to kindergarten flappy bird

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oh really we should just ignore dayplay altogether and just play based on mechanics then?

this. fucking this.

those pushing for a group 2 lynch... are not using their head

"let's go for the safe thing and kill 4 townies for 1 scum!"

yeah pussies too bad i am a REAL MAN

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@wisdom

i dont mind dying but i think you have been influenced by scum to save dramonic. considering i want specifically dramonic dead and specifically think he has a good chance of being scum i will not agree to you saving dramonic over me

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like if you want me dead i'd rather you not swap dramonic out because i want him to go down with me. tia.

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like if bu was in my group i'd be 'sure, save bu instead of me, i dont mind dying a MANLY DEATH'. but dramonic...? no, i will not agree to that.

though you dont exactly need my permission to kill me if you can do so

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EDIT: Lynching three scum and winning the game files under "not lynching 4 townies", genius.

too fucking bad option 3 is fucking superior to option 1, you wanker

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Or we could not swap and all 3 scums are already in group 2.

You know, we can build a lot of stupid theories together if that's your kick.

or i could win the lottery tomorrow and buy over mafiascum

stop being a nitwit, i'm actually suggesting probable shit here, you're just memeing for the sake of it

reread wisdom's theory again. we're using dayplay and reads to influence our swaps for a better optimal lynch instead of your pussy newbie queue safe lynch. okay?

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the guilty doesnt magically get invalidated tomorrow so if for some fucking reason riku/pine isn't scum then we can further narrow it down to bu/wisdom/kok

but me and wisdom strongly believe that the scum lies in riku/pine

how fucking hard is it to understand

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... Jesus Christ you suck at probabilities.

by sheer probability group 2 has 1 scum in it WITH OR WITHOUT KOKICHI'S GUILTY

so what? would your actions change? who gives a flying fuck dude. we would still play normally because the cards are already set. it shouldnt change anything

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blind lynching group 2 would have netted us 1 scum anyway in the first place.

would you have advocated doing that based on probability?

somehow when the probability is now 100% its perfectly okay to blind lynch group 2

okay

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i dont think cakez is town so i dont really care what he says

in the EVENT that cakez and dramonic and muffin is all town however ( = group 3 all town) we will have a problem

too bad i dont think thats the case

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and in THAT event we can take a long hard look at group 1

it's not so bad considering that we have a good path given all the information we gained from today

somehow those wankers who want to lynch group 2 seem perfectly OKAY with throwing all that information away!

just to lynch 1 scum

gee

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i wonder what it takes to lynch 1 scum

maybe closing my eyes and choosing a random partition would help

i guess thats what this game is about! playing probabilities and not considering day play! shoulda used an RNG for that!

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see i dont believe muffin is that stupid or obtuse so i actually think he might be scum here

he is perfectly capable of writing everything he has said so far in his ISO, just take a look at my scum tier list

here let me bring it up again

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2 has Pine in addition to me
2 has one more person to account for scum losing members
Certain if not most people in this playerlist probably don't have much experience with zmuffin

2 is better than 3

scum tier list:

muffinman --> wisdom -----------------------------------------> pine

who's accounting for what?

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its like realmen is trying to stroke my ego here and get on my good side

its too fucking bad you're wrong more often than not so you dont get people agreeing with you very often

must be a novel experience i know

you'll get used to it

i think

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im not wrong more often than not

well honestly that came off a bit harsh and im sorry i said that

but i think you have more reason to be paranoid about muffinMAN than a REAL MAN

though i did place myself higher on the tier list than muffin...

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i want you to flip, realmen, sorry
it's not natural for you to agree with me so much

i feel ya

its not natural for anyone to agree with wisdom so much

please kill me

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if dram is scum you cucked yourself

if pine is town you cucked yourself double

proceed

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man it feels bad that i actually feel that i might not die with honor with the bird getting swapped out

i'm shitting on you postgame if bird is scum, wisdom

if bird is town then all is well and good

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no. if dram is scum and you saved him then it's fucking disgusting. and a dishonorable death for me and muffin

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that is true

im more concerned about the dram swap out but again everything will be known after the flip

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muffin and I*

m&ms sounds better than m&I

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also:

"people are disagreeing with me, i hate them must be scum"

"this guy is agreeing with me, i hate them must be scum"

you have some real issues kid

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well too bad REAL MEN have good MANLY reads then

as long as dram NOT SCUM i won't lose my shit. there are only 3 scum in the game. so it's not probable

so, you have 1 job. dont fuck it up

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besides, I remembered I have shouted at people for "people are disagreeing with me, i hate them must be scum" stances and I felt bad doing it myself

ya good that you're improving

that is what makes you better than players like [REDACTED]

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he's drunk

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yeah pine see i think you're town but you dead isn't so bad (see: you're perfectly willing to die for the cause) but wisdom saving drambird, if SCUM, from annihilation would be pretty poop

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the more talk i see the more worried that i think we should be lynching group 1 instead

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yeah fuck these partitions these role swappers arent strong enough to repartition this bullshit


are your swapping abilities 1 shot or usable every day?

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real MAN:
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fucking town:
BuJaber
Wisdom
northsidegal

town:
Kokichi Oma
Pine
DeasVail


who the fuck knows??:
dramonic
Eddie Cane
havingfitz SirCakez
riku zMuffinMan

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yea if i could call the shots ideally we'd pop in riku here and me out then lynch group 3 but whatever wisdom calls the shots just dont be wrong

i'm out

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well

you want pine dead and riku next

i want riku dead and pine next

its just a matter of order

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but you have pine as town???

thats why he isnt 'fucking town' you get it?

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how is pine town
he's all over the place
one moment he wants to be swapped to g3 then he wants g2 to be lynched instead

being 'all over the place' isnt scummy

you're all over the place too

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Wis before you swap I'd recheck the bujaber townread. That'd be how this turns disastrous.

its ok i really think bujaber is town here

he's always more of an asshole when town

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oh no shitposting about trying to get himself killed is SCUMMY god FORBID

my lowkey townlean on you has been withdrawn. fuck cakez i'm down to lynch this wanker

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it's like scum have 10 members instead of 3 and TRYING TO KILL THEMSELVES IS THE FASTEST WAY TO WIN THE GAME

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Commend to Wisdom and Pine for being REAL MEN


dramonic is a pussy and should be treated accordingly

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Quote fail

You can't play mafia and not make any assumptions at all. Scum will have a field day with us if we are only doing the "trust no one" approach.

That's irrelevant to the point

In a normal mafia game if 2 people's posts contradict each other you'd never opt for ignoring both of them because you can't guarantee which is truthful. You would analyze each and lynch the one you feel is less believable.

This is neither a normal game nor an accurate portrayal of the situation.

Risking 4 town to lynch 1 scum just because we are too scared to trust our reads is bad play. Also there is info gained. Even with the worst case scenario that wisdom is the only scum in group 2 and we swap him out with a townie (which btw is a scenario that doesn't fit with everything that happened) we would know for a fact that wisdom is scum and that there were 2 scum outsude of group 2.

The only info we get is "we fucked up". We'd have lynched 0 scum and lost 4/5 town.
Yeah, that's totally better than 4 town 1 scum minimum.

We coulda also have no swap, lynch group 2, net 1 scum minimum and know there were 2 scum outside of group 2. Except we'd be at worst 6-2 instead of 5-3

Just because YOU fuck up ever so often because your reads are TRASH doesn’t mean WE fuck up thanks

Dram’s fearmongering of “squawk what if we lynch 0 scum squawk” is really stupid considering that EVRRYONE ON BOARD WITH THE MAN PLAN expects this to hit 2+ scum

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VOTE: group 3

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because im trying to understand wtf hes doing
i think hes town but its nonsense

Pine is BEING A REAL MAN READY TO DIE WITH HONOR

looks town to me

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This antic of "manliness" is both offensive and promoting disgusting stereotypes.
This is a mafia game, not an RP session.

well im making it an RP MAFIA SESSION

suck on that

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ill consider what you say only if you flip town

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VOTE: group 3

GLORIOUS MANWAGON

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i hope we hit 2 scum but this nets us 1 scum minimum and 2 scummy players and 1 REAL MAN

PINE THE HEAD OF THE DEAD SCUM IN GROUP 3 WILL BE PUT ON YOUR GRAVESTONE AS HONOR OF YOUR NOBLE SACRIFICE

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you've been lynched, you can stop acting

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Shit I didn't get to vote for myself

VOTE: 3

For glorrrryyyyyyy

Currently suspecting Muffin, maaaaaybe Wisdom.

REMEMBER: IF RIKU FLIPS TOWN, THERE IS 100% SCUM IN {WISDOM, BUJABER}

if riku flips scum you will forever be remembered as the REAL MAN WHO LAID DOWN HIS LIFE TO SLAY SCUM

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the REALEST MAN will personally present you a Purple Heart

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ideally we quickwagoned group 3 with muffinman in it because he's much more likely to be scum than pine here but i guess people are slow and whats done is done

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hi

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i will catch up tomorrow

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i was pretty shocked that riku + cakez + dram flipped town

pine was expected

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I’m really sick and don’t have the time to read up today

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let’s do this instead

VOTE: group 2

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tinfoil theory 3: muffinman is scum and we are all going to die in an abyss of dark hell with that horrid wolf thing appearing in your nightmares. in this case REALMEN will be the REAL MAN to take on the MUFFIN MAN and to bring peace, justice, and light to this world. then set your mafia theme to mafsilver.

called it

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sorry guys i was sick

should have just lynched muffinman

wisdom is not to blame here