Ircher's Large Normal Review, May 2018

[RadiantCowbells]

Uhm.

I'll look at balance first but uh this is

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah this is never a go as is

8 confirmed town on d1

only 5 non-confirmed town need to be locktown for town to win

[RadiantCowbells]

This game is currently not even close to balanced

as the numbers of confirmed town go up confirmed towns become exponentially more powerful, same with mafia

Rules say I'm supposed to immediately suggest a fix btu I don't ahve a fix to suggest right now, I need time to think.

[RadiantCowbells]

scum shooting the innocent child into universal backup becoming IC into being shot again is annoying interaction

[RadiantCowbells]

However:

I do think that I can generally go for 5 conftown, 1 vengeful as a setup

I would like input from Firebringer on that though

[RadiantCowbells]

Maybe just replace the innocent child from d1 with a FN and call it a day and see how it goes

I'm not entirely certain on this but

[RadiantCowbells]

Sure. Can ER see role PMs?

[RadiantCowbells]

This is an unusual setup and I want time to think about it sorry.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh yeah, can we clarify exactly how Enabler works in terms of the normal guidelines (especially in terms of backup enablers (Universal Backup here)).

My interpretation is that as long as at least one Enabler is alive, players can use their night action. (Thus, if the Mafia UB inherits the enabler ability, mafia can still use the Vanilla Cop ability). But that comes with a issue: the flip of an enabler leaves PRs affected by the Enabler in the dark about whether they can use their role. My solution here is to automatically return "No Result" to a role that is no longer enabled, but that has issues as well if players aren't aware of this.

If my interpretation here about enablers is wrong (i.e.: if an enabler dies, all roles enabled by it are disabled regardless of the existence of another enabler), then I'm fine with that as well; I just want to clarify.

Implo as normal listmod we could use a verdict on this btw.

If there's an enabler and a backup to said enabler it works as normal right? And you should specifically make sure enabled PRS know they're still active on an enabler flip.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay.

I'll pass the setup as is then

I'll do a final once over before this game actually goes to queue but I'm willing to pass the setup

[RadiantCowbells]

I think the game is fine with faction numbers public