Mini Normal 2012: Tropical Mafia [Endgame]

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VOTE: texcat
meow

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Naked RVS makes me sad

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im sad

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18 is bad

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21 and 22 also seem very scummy
VOTE: Garuga

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dumb vote and that question was really bad

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Shoshin why is Garuga town?

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21 and 22 also seem very scummy
VOTE: Garuga

What's scummy about them?

they seem like an awkward attempt for scum to seem like town for agreeing with criticisms. i might just be being suspicious of him but i feel like those posts do not come from town.

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Garuga, is your vote in 18 an rvs vote? And if so, why did you change it?

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Cause you don’t rvs vote over something suspicious

I'm confused at where you're coming from. He didn't RVS vote for something suspicious. I thought that was the whole point?

i think he means "Why would you make an RVS vote rather than a vote for something suspicious"

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I don't like HF's use of "wtf" - his reaction seems a bit over-the-top.

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JJD vs Shoshin is not SvS

VOTE: Shoshin

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JJD vs Shoshin is not SvS

Why is JJD town?

when did I say that JJD was town

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Read this post:

I guess I prefer voting someone who didn't give us any information with his post.

Explains why I voted you instead of BBT.

what

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JJD vs Shoshin is not SvS

Why is JJD town?

Did you just .com to bring scum here?

what?

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what?

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not really?

i just said it wasn't SvS because it didn't seem like a scum and a scum talking to each other.

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Invisibility, what's your read on JJD? If the conversation wasn't SvS, what was it? SvT? If so, why aren't you townreading JJD? And why are you scumreading me?

feel kind of weird about him but that situation brings him to a townlean. it was either SvT or TvT but, given the people he spoke with, it was probably SvT

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Shoshin is completely missing the point of my post about SvS. I didn't have any other reason to believe that JJD was town at the time other than that interaction. Shoshin is thinking that im thinking that it's not SvS because I think that JJD is town and Shoshin is scum.

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JJD is currently a townlean

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Rampage seems VI btw

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Those who know me know how much I love Day 1s.

So much posturing going on.

Read this post:

I guess I prefer voting someone who didn't give us any information with his post.

Explains why I voted you instead of BBT.

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JJD vs Shoshin is not SvS

Why is JJD town?

Did you just .com to bring scum here?

what?

what?

Why are we not lynching this?

seriously?

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it isn't the same type of question though.

not really

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shoshin feeling better

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"what" is the scummiest four letter combination known to man

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in fact VOTE: Garuga for 308 just being generally an awful post

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@Garuga

what's your read on havo?

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is it in his "pet theory"?

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feel kind of weird about him but that situation brings him to a townlean. it was either SvT or TvT but, given the people he spoke with, it was probably SvT

Why do you feel weird about him and how have you ruled out TvT?

At the time I felt weird about him because of all the weird star wars posting, but I feel better about him now. Also I ruled out TvT because at the time I thought that Shoshin was scum.

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also UNVOTE:

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308 sucks because the read on "what" was bad and sheeping Havo.

going to read up on the rest of the thread

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also feeling worse about JJD

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im not hammering Rampage

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probably

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VOTE: JJD
scummiest person right now for me

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his continued push on Garuga in the latter part of D1 felt very mechanical (as town, I think his read would have shifted more fluidly)

Could you elaborate?

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Could you elaborate?

No, your posts peak for themselves. Why JJD?

im deaf. could you elaborate?

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p-edit

Why is JJD the scummiest to you?

feelread also telling TheRampage to self hammer

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Invisibility, join me on Mumble!

you were literally voting me a few posts ago what

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Invisibility, join me on Mumble!

you were literally voting me a few posts ago what

So what? I'm voting Mumble now and you should join.

i like this better
VOTE: Shoshin

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i like this better
VOTE: Shoshin

How do you square this with your scumread on JJD?

you're recent push on Mumble has been scummier than JJD

it's not rocket science

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when did i say that mumble was a townread
its too late now, i'll have to answer the second question tomorrow

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actually i can respond

your reasoning on the scumbuddy/knowing im town thing is bad. especially when you're telling me to join the wagon. also you're being contradictory by calling me scum and then telling me to join the wagon

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i dont think calling Shoshin's concern about HF a "push" is a valid criticism

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also i have mixed feelings about Mumble right now, but i would say he's a slight townlean

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@Shoshin Did you still think I'm scum and did you think that I was scum at 443?

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no? its more like Mumble doesn't get why Garuga thought that i should have been lynched. it was less of a defense and more of a callout of poor logic

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I don't like HF's use of "wtf" - his reaction seems a bit over-the-top.

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JJD vs Shoshin is not SvS

VOTE: Shoshin

VOTE: JJD
scummiest person right now for me

Invisibility, join me on Mumble!

you were literally voting me a few posts ago what

So what? I'm voting Mumble now and you should join.

i like this better
VOTE: Shoshin

So do you now think that it was SvS?

probs not

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probably so*

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@BBT how do you feel about Shoshin trying to get me on the wagon?

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Garuga should not have claimed. Even though I was pushing his wagon it wasn't getting a lot of support so I was leaving it as well. Don't get his early (L-4?) claim.

Still like my vote from eod yesterday.

VOTE: Shoshin

v/LA till Tuesday morning

for holiday weekend in US.

I really don't like this. It's very active lurker-like.

Why vote now instead of waiting until you come back?

gross

but otherwise i think Jodaxq is town

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JJD, is there a reason you don't think that it could be BBT/Inivs/Mumbles?

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He's not providing clear arguments for his reads. His "what?" trilogy (151 153 155) is probably the best example, along with the (19 23 28) trio early on.

So why naked vote him (essentially doing what you are scum reading him for) instead of asking him to clarify?

Because I see an alternative reason for your vote...

I was already voting him since 48. I don't think this sort of posting comes from town trying to solve the game. I think it's newbscum trying to discredit me since I voted havingfitz, and Invis's reaction is actually one of the main reasons I scumread HF.

The re-vote confirms my read on him and makes my post a bit more flavorful.

I think it's completely reasonable to think that Garuga is referring to Mumbles here.

are you saying that it's completely reasonable for someone to misunderstand it?

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Gustavo is town

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580 is a stretch

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i feel like this discussion is going nowhere

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why is asking questions scummy?

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im trying OK?

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Joda, bacy, gustavo

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[quote="In post 635, Shoshin"][/quote]
because they've all been posting content that seems to be trying to further the town's progress

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cool quote mate

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thanks

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maybe we should move on because conversation is going nowhere

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lynch shoshin

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no

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you can tell me?

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can you say it to no one?

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no

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i'll answer it for you
1. shoshin
2. JJD
3. lurker pool [Havo/texcat/and i think other people]

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hi should i just be at the point where i don't care anymore

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i was chatting with my bois on the PT and they said no

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oh yaeh vanilla town

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cross my heart

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actually i think BBT might be a finer spot than JJD

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or replace a lurker slot

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if shoshin flips scum then BBT is virtually conftown i would say

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there are multiple roles that inform the person that visited them that they were visited

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BBT does not seem to be faking it

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Friendly Neighbor?

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not necessarily information, but claiming that you didn't receive it would be scummy

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okay i think i'd like to hear a BBT claim

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I'd say that a red BBT = red Invisibility

Anyone out there disagree w/ this?

I disagree unless Mumble is also scum, because otherwise BBT could have stuck on Mumble with me instead of going for Invisibility.

there was a wagon building on me
if he was scum he would want to be on the wagon

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BBT Is there a reason you think I'm scum again?

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i want to hear his response before voting him

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I'm not voting BBT today because there's no plausible world in which BBT is scum and Invisibility's not.

hi are you saying that if i'm town BBT is scum or just saying that i am guaranteed to be scum and BBT is guaranteed to be town/

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i don't get your criticism

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shoshin

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i dont think many games have a loyal fruit vendor

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i was responding to 932 btw

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i actually really really don't like 932

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like really really don't like

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i forgot why Shoshin doesn't like me

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oh yeah i see

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for being not fluid and also not lynching TheRampage for towncred or something (even though I had already established that I thought he was VI)

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blep ninja'd

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Phone posting so just gonna give a TLDR version till I get to a computer.

2 leading wagons are scum invis and scum shoshin so scum BBT makes this crazy play cuz scum is getting lynched anyway.

wait is this a joke or srs

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also BBT is probs getting NK'd if his roleclaim was correct
but this post was a trick to confuse the mafia

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i think a better phrase to say would be "we can't depend on BBT being able to use his ability again"

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thats hammer right?

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im flipping town btw

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sad