Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Endgame

[hebichan]

Well, I don't feel like being a candidate because I'm not a good day one player and I can't really convince people of anything... sooo


Right now, I'm of the mind that we should look at how the districts are formed right now. It seems like New York and Mayfair are a bit larger, and its not really an even distribution. It feelsl ike this is used to dilute some town votes a bit.

I mean, yeah, we should elect obvious town, but we can't really do that unless a lot of each district agree on who competent town are.

As for Not Known's proposal, I'm not going to tailor my play to a strict set of rules like that, its anti-fun and can easily lead to mislynches because town players are often illogical.

[hebichan]

Can anyone explain Ruby's towngame to me? I've never played with them and they seem pretty sure of themselves.

[hebichan]

pedit: are you cognizant of whom ruby-Chan IS...

I am not.

basically a god of townplay

not actually a god, but basically a god

Basically.. what got you this reputation?

[hebichan]

I haven’t read anything what’s going on

We're discussing who to vote for and why the mafia made the districts how they did.

[hebichan]

You don't think we couldn't get some scumreads off people based on district placement?

Well, alright, not going to force you into a conversation you don't want.

What party looks best to you right now, considering two of the candidates are your two top town reads?

[hebichan]

Who do you believe is scum based on district placement? I don't see how we can identify scum based on their district placement but feel free to prove me wrong.

Ruby's party is the best because she's more likely to be town than the others. NK15 is town too but joining his party would imply I support ideas which I don't support.

For example, scum probably spread themselves out, so if we identify extremely towny people in certain districts, we could probably weed out a scum out of one or two of those.

It might also help alleviate a problem of scum lurkers vs town lurkers, which I've noticed in my past few games.

I don't have any definitive reads yet, because only a small amount of players have talked so far, but as someone else mentioned, if you town read both ruby and FD, there's a good chance 123456 could be scum.

I mean, I could be wrong about all of this, sure, but I think we should keep it in mind as its sort of the main concept of this game.

[hebichan]

1. FIGHTING DREAMERS (the worst / SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis hydra) Played with the worst multiple times, never Saske
2. NicoRobin Played with once that I can recall, maybe twice?
3. Firebringer played with multiple times
4. Iconeum never played with
5. Hebichan - its me, I am the one!
6. ArcAngel9- played with once or twice
7. Edosurist-never
8. Myloninja13-never
9. 123456789-uhh... maybe?
10. Wraith- played with a few times
11. Blind Bandits (Nosferatu / Purrcocet hydra)- played with both hydras
12. Aronis- played with a bunch
13. Ruby Red- never
14. Tazaro- like once
15. Not Known 15-never
16. Ausuka-never
17. Whemestar-a few times
18. Invisibility-never
19. mutantdevle-I think once?

[hebichan]

I agree with no electoral fraud.

[hebichan]

JOIN: LYNCH SCUM FIRST DAY PARTY

@hebichan pull up

Yeah, sure.

Join LYNCH SCUM FIRST DAY PARTY

Tbh, I think mutant looks a bit worse thatn fighting dreamers. I might be a bit biased though cause their candidate announcement was pretty impressive.

[hebichan]

Yeah, I sort of want hear more on that.

"Whemestar is evil whether intentional or not?"

Also, what about Ruby's first post set you off 1-9? I find her pretty town so far.

[hebichan]

Firebringer is true to his nane, he likes to watch the world burn, and is therefore an easy mislynch. Not seeing anything different from normal out of him.

[hebichan]

TBH having all the meta out in the open just seems solid to me independent of mutant's alignment.

[hebichan]

tbh im lowkey scumreading some people in my party.

Watching the people fill in to the groups, I think Ruby's might actually be the easiest to get a mislynch off of since she directly stated shed listen to her party.

[hebichan]

Watching the people fill in to the groups, I think Ruby's might actually be the easiest to get a mislynch off of since she directly stated shed listen to her party.

what??????

Not sure what you don't understand about this. People expressed some low scumreads on each other in our party thread even.

I just think scum sees our party as an easy target.

[hebichan]

Your response or my response, I'm confused now.

[hebichan]

I think Ruby's might actually be the easiest to get a mislynch off of since she directly stated shed listen to her party.

is this something you actually believe

Er, yes?

I mean, I think you're town. But the fact is the more I look at it, the more voting by committee might be a weaker play. Scum can just back a supporter and pocket them in the PT pretty easy.

[hebichan]

I mean look a nicorobin, shes pretty much just coasting in our party right now.

[hebichan]

If I were scum wanting to pocket you, I wouldn't be doing it in main thread by describing people pocketing you.

[hebichan]

Yeah, that's fair. I'm just trying to get more content from her.

It makes me uncomfy when people join a neighborhood then don't post.

[hebichan]

Pretty sure Ausuka is town, not sure bout the others in our party.

[hebichan]

If I had to vote for a party that wasn't mine, gun to head. I'd pick wheme.

I townread him, even if his party is pretty useless.

[hebichan]

I wouldn't dare, sir.

I am merely speculating that it might be hard to inspire confidence with a party that has no clear platform besides flinging feces.

I make no value judgements on your hobby of doing so though.

[hebichan]

Sure, I voted ruby.

[hebichan]

Those that didn’t vote whemestar will be purged from the game

Did you vote for whemestar?

[hebichan]

Edosurist
Tazaro
Hebichan
Myloninja13

Ruby Red

We can remove Ruby since they are in 2 districts and their other district has a 100% turnout.

Ruby and I both voted for Ruby. Both our votes are accounted for and there are no additional votes for Ruby.

[hebichan]

Also, edo claimed not to vote....

so how are there 3 FD votes in our district?

Actually what the hell?

even if we assume there's a double vote for FD there's still one missing vote.

[hebichan]

It's also possible town doublevoted, even knowing they'd be scumread for it.

[hebichan]

It's also possible town doublevoted, even knowing they'd be scumread for it.

If they did that then they deserve the lynch that's coming for them.

Not gonna argue with that.

[hebichan]

He's been oddly silent since the vote tally.

[hebichan]

Like who specifically?

Like, you're president, lets hear what your plan is and see if you get a round two.

[hebichan]

Like who specifically?

Like, you're president, lets hear what your plan is and see if you get a round two.

what is the purpose of this post?
I won't be a snark but have you been reading my posts?

I have read your posts and I have a decent idea where you might shoot. I just feel like you've been a bit cagey since this particular phase has begun.

[hebichan]

Honestly, we haven't even heard edo defend himself.

Seems really weird to have everyone jump on it. Though, a replacement probably wouldn't be able to help us either, as others have pointed out.

I feel like worst is probably town here too.

Wheme is pinging me pretty hard, so are FB and taz here.

[hebichan]

Sorry, haven't played with edos much before and well....

he's sort of not around.

[hebichan]

you're objecting on the grounds of people not objecting enough.




[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huaB3RtppMk[/youtube]

[hebichan]

I'm talking to skitter, not you.

But I mean, its pretty obvious why edos is the popular subject and unless you're willfully ignoring it, I'm not sure why you're objecting..

cause if edos isn't scum, the obvious candidates, in my eyes, would be you or mylo

p-edit: How does taz's mindstate make any sense here, unless he made the double vote himself?

[hebichan]

Hebichan is possibly scum too yeah
Can anyone read her?

Feel free to lynch me, I just want someone in our district lynched.

Preferably not me or ruby, but if it helps catch the doublevoters sooner, go for it.

[hebichan]

@Hebichan, why didn't you confess to your double vote yesterday?

I was making a gambit.

I wanted to see the reactions of the rest of my district when I double-voted, and after there was a second double vote in my district I felt like I had to keep it up to weed out the other double voter. I was honestly planning on admitting to it until Edo claimed to not vote. Knowing the math still didn't add up made me think Edo was lying, and I didn't want to out my gambit and take attention off that slot and onto me.

I'm still really confused honestly, I thought our district and the overall presidential vote would go to Ruby, so I split my vote between FD and Ruby to get some reads.

But Edo flipping town really confuses me, since that means someone else still double voted in our district, or Edo was lying.

[hebichan]

Hebi’s “I thought ruby would win my district/the presidency” excuse doesn’t really make sense considering the party alignments in her district were:

2 for FD (taz and edos)
2 for ruby (ruby and hebi)
1 for wheme (Mylo)

This district was a toss up and if she wanted to double vote as a reaction test, I don’t see why she didn’t double vote ruby. Like this makes me think she double voted but wanted to avoid culpability

If I wanted to avoid culpability and was scum, why would I out myself?

Pick one or the other.

Also the only other double vote possibilities are

1. Taz double voted FD, which makes sense, but I think Taz is pretty safely town.

2. Mylo or Ruby also voted for two parties which is possible but Ruby voting off herself is completely batshit.

3 Edo lied which is also ???

p-edit: The Worst did he best there trying to narrow down double voters. It's a bit unfortunate that there were people calling for edo to be shot without letting the replacement talk, as its possible edo was lying about the vote and we will never know.

[hebichan]

i mean, i'm pretty sure i pointed out the gamestate was indicating that it was probably mislynch and that it was in his town meta to flake

Please accept this post as an "unfuck you", you were indeed highly legit about the Edo situation

the fact that you had it narrowed down to {edo/hebi} and picked edo after hebi had frauded for you is not really a good look tbh.

I wish I'd killed Hebichan. my gut was screaming to but my reads are normally awful so I'd committed myself to trying to talk to my townreads first.

considering nearly the entire player list was encouraging me to execute Edos and I don't trust myself to make an independent good choice what's not good about it?

also not even gonna go into why Hebi and I are not scum yet

Legit question, what made you run for pres if you don't trust your reads?

[hebichan]

I did, mostly, but I'm still confused.

This is the second time you've asked me if I read, and the answer remains.

"Yes... but...it still makes no sense to me."

[hebichan]

Yes the people who think Hebichan are town 100% need to elaborate because everything about her conduct WRT voting screams "I'm fucking scum"

"I committed voter fraud for someone not in my own fucking party when I could have secured a fraudulent majority for my party instead and that guy got elected and executed town and I did it for

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" is one of the scummiest fucking fakeclaims I have ever read in my life.

Also I would like to point out that the Shit Posting Party - which previously had a lockdown majority in the largest district - has been deliberately split up into completely separate districts and thus entirely neutered.

Uh what, having a voice in multiple districts gives you more power.

Winning a single district doesn't mean anything.

[hebichan]

If you're in multiple districts you need to convince less people to vote with you.

It would take at least 4 people to vote with you to get multiple districts if you're all clumped together, and 3 if you're spread out like you are.

Mechanically it is slightly favorable to be spread out, but not much.

[hebichan]

It looks like Ruby could win more than worst. Specially if you're worried about me, since I can't vote.


We're also not 100% on taz being the other double voter. Just pretty sure.

[hebichan]

You're also ignoring the party aronis made today.

[hebichan]

I'm not sure what scum putting you all together or all apart really matters for your party though.

You only have three members, even if you won a single district, the numbers are still favorable for SNKP.


Plus the worst was split on voting me or edo yesterday, why would scum risk someone who, in your mind, was set on lynching scum yesterday and listened to town instead?

[hebichan]

im just gonna full claim my fucking dumb role here.

Im a third party anarchist.
My goal is to be in two tied districts over the course of the game.

I get Joat powers unlocked after certain things.
1. if im caught for electoral fruading, I get a one shot protest, which means I can stop the lynch after its been chosen but before it resolves to stop the lynch and make the president resolve a new one.
2. I can choose to arrange the members of a single district one night. This is after I am in a single tied district. My choices supercede the mafia's and if it causes two or less people to be in another district, the mafia can reshuffle any other district to fit the constraints.
3. After there is a colotion lynch, I can choose to lock a single district for a night, mafia can not touch it.

that's why I wanted to find the other double voter so badly yesterday, if I can't trust town to vote normally, my role is nearly impossible.

[hebichan]

I'm as much against the mafia as I am town.

making districts tie up isn't really all that protown at all.

My powers all help me win by letting me make more contested districts -anti-town-
but also make life harder for the mafia -anti-mafia-

[hebichan]

I can also set up my protest ability so that I can use it even if im not around, it doesn't have to be on myself either.

[hebichan]

My protest ability is set on me or the worst today.

Just wanted to save time.

[hebichan]

Idk why taz fruaded for you, if he didnt things would have gone better for me. Really dumb role to win with.

[hebichan]

Where has invisibility gone anyhow?

[hebichan]

I mean go ahead and lynch me.

[hebichan]

I already said, I have to be in a tied district on two different days.

[hebichan]

That role is so out there, I actually believe it

So if hebi is in a tied district today, we have to lynch her, if I’m understanding correctly

can you explain this again? i don't understand the connection between being in a tied district today and lynching her; her district wasn't tied yesterday, it was 3-2-1

she can technically win by the end of tomorrow’s election phase without us ever getting the chance to lynch her.

The sequence of events would be like:
- election phase —> tied district d2 (hebi’s first tied district)
- lynch phase (tries and fails to lynch hebi)
- election phase —> tied district d3 —-> hebi automatically achieves her wincon

^ in that scenario, I think hebi would win even if she gets lynched d3 because she will technically have been in two tied districts throughout the game

If today we make sure the greatest city in the world doesn’t have a tie, then it’ll be mechanically impossible for hebi to win. We can always try to make hebi’s district not a tie tomorrow but with her night action that moves around districts, idk if I want to bet on that.

Basically, the issue is that once the election results are out and hebi is in a 2nd tied district, she can win before we get a chance to even lynch her. We ideally should lynch her right after her first tied district but her protest ability makes this difficult.

Why do you care if I win, my win doesnt end the game, as far as I'm aware. I just leave the game.

[hebichan]

Sorry, thought you were worried about me messing up the votes, not ending the game.

[hebichan]

Why would you full claim that?

It would be super obvious to lynch you if you lynched scum?

[hebichan]

I mean, I am. But congrats on making a silly counter claim.

[hebichan]

I don't see why wheme would out that role even if he were 3p trying to counterclaim me. I don't believe it. It makes him unable to seriously be considered as a president and therefore makes it almost impossible for him to win if his claim is true.

All to counterclaim another third party he thinks is scum?

What world does that play make sense?

[hebichan]

Wheme did fullclaim? It was just bullshit.

[hebichan]

I don't really know why you care if I get a tied district still, but okay.

[hebichan]

I promise to use any mess with district abilities fully to the town's benefit.

Possibly wheme's benefit. Cause I at least think he's funny.

[hebichan]

jjh927 asked me to post so he wouldn't replace me

so this is my post.

it tells you a great story of how this post came to be.
it tells you my motivation: not getting replaced
it also tells you i am annoyed that i have to post even though i fond that this game has nothing really pique my interest to comment on.

so i am going to pretend this is fun.

lets talk about something interesting like, how i am not wearing pants right now.

I'd vote for this guy.

[hebichan]

I voted for firedragon. He seemed good.

[hebichan]

A tie????!!!

People should've just double-voted in Hebi's district....

If there are any double votes this time then I'm going to have a fit.

I didn't even double vote in it.

[hebichan]

Everyone hates me D:

Its ok.

But I will use my ability I just got however town wants.

[hebichan]

I did it the moment I had unlocked the ability. *shrugs*

[hebichan]

I'm here and listening.

Yeah, to be fair, I wasn't told the exact phrasing of the protest flavor.

[hebichan]

"Hebichan will lose us one vote if they leave... AND their abilities have no other downside to us. They are simply a hindrance."

How is either of those things a reason to kill me?
Sounds like a great reason to keep me around.


I even announced who I voted for like you asked!

[hebichan]

counter claiming third party in a way that would make your third party wincon not resolve seems scummy.

I vote for keeping wheme around for the glory of the shitposting party though.

[hebichan]

On the other hand, while I don't see why scum wheme does this, I don't see why wheme game throws as third party to counter claim either.

Its mystifying regardless of alignment, except town gambits.

[hebichan]

basically the best question all of day 2.

[hebichan]

hey oath. Lay us out some truths.

[hebichan]

I voted for your slot to be president, fyi.

[hebichan]

you guys used up my protest ability.

But hey, you guys can ask me to arrange one district for you.

[hebichan]

Last chance if people want to suggest a district for me to modify for them.

[hebichan]

Suit yourself.

I kinda agree, its hard to predict where people will vote tomorrow, so I can't really set up an amazing x2 tied district combo easily.

I guess I'll save it then.

[hebichan]

I'm half way to victory though, so I don't see any harm in helping out town a lot more tomorrow.

[hebichan]

Oh scum put me in a three person district. Lot easier to tie a vote on.

[hebichan]

I want both to win.Being able to lock a district sounds nice.

[hebichan]

Real advice, at this point in the game shooting a useless third party is pretty bad, specially since Im willing to use my powers for you.

[hebichan]

Tbh I said Blind bandits felt off day one from the party thread.

btw, if im elected, im lynching the mod. I hope I'm not for towns sake, cause it means something went very wrong, but just putting it out there.

[hebichan]

Yes you do.

[hebichan]

I think aronis should be president.

[hebichan]

The only two viable candidates have both killed town.

I have no idea what you want.

[hebichan]

I also have no idea how my district members will vote, so I'm not doublevoting. But if they both vote the same I can't really win today.

[hebichan]

Leave: LSDO party

Join: Shitposting Party

It seems more my speed these days, since I'm just waiting for the right district config to popup to win.

[hebichan]

honestly ruby finessed us the most, aint done shit for the people

oh wait ruby not president

Who are you voting for?

[hebichan]

I would like my house equity now.

When's vote phase, we're starting to go in circles here?

Also for anyone asking wheme to fullclaim, lol, he already did. It could be a fakeclaim, but it was claimed.

[hebichan]

Town: Me, Wheme, Captain Crunch, the rest of the SPP

Scum: Whoever doesn't tell me how they will vote while in a district with me, JJH

[hebichan]

did you vote BB?

[hebichan]

I assumed BB would double vote to try and get someone who didn't express a desire to lynch them, so I voted to try and tie.

I guess I assumed too much.

[hebichan]

Why couldn't I be in the freaking two person district, games rigged.

[hebichan]

Cause we have to elect someone first. The only part I really care about.

[hebichan]

VOTE: skip

[hebichan]

I literally can't be elected, so no worries there.

[hebichan]

i might just lolvote for skitter

wait, but why?

[hebichan]

I sai in the SPP thread that I think orhz or invisibility would be good for you guys.

[hebichan]

I thought nk would just double vote on anyone but wheme tbh. Fully expected nk to be a douche about it though.

[hebichan]

After a few days thinking it over, and deciding to be vindictive, I am pretty sure nk15 is scum here.

Scum are directly trying to get me to stay alive to blackmail me into voting with them in the later phases in exchange for my win here.

NK could have announced he was double voting wheme and I couldn't have stopped him if wheme decided to single vote, even if I double voted someone else, wheme couldn't be sure nk was telling the truth an still voted himself. That would have given town a leash they could have used to use my power to arrange a district in town's favor.

Instead, he went back on his own policy, double voted, so I wouldn't end the game? Which shouldn't be a concern when my win condition is fairly simple to achieve, without scum interference at least.


So tonight, I'm going to use my power to try and set up a win.

HURT: NK15

[hebichan]

Which shouldn't be a concern when my win condition is fairly simple to achieve, without scum interference at least.

And there is nothing bad that happens when you win, other than you leaving?
You lied to us once about what happens with your abilities when you said that protest would prevent us from lynching you; when it instead delayed the lynch and would have given the president problems after lynch...
why should we trust your claim, that you are indeed a neutral that doesn't harm town by more than existing?

Of course I would lie about my protestor ability, you guys wanted to lynch me.

I puffed out my cheeks to look stronger than I was.

But why didn't you publicly say you were goingto double vote for wheme when there was no way for me to counter that? Why keep it secret?

[hebichan]

Ausuka, my role is weird.

I'm a third party anarchist with some unlockable joat abilities. I win if I am in two tied districts over the course of the game. Basically flavor wise I'm trying to make the government less stable.


I can unlock three powers by performing certain feats.
The first was a one shot protest, when I am caught for election fraud, I get the ability to basically stop a lynch once per game, they can revote the person but I originally claimed it stopped them from relynching that person one game to hope to survive since I didn't know what the flavor would be that came with it.

Second is a one shot riot. After I am in my first tied district, I get the ability to supercede mafia in choosing how one district is laid out one night. I asked since then when in order this happens, It happens after mafia has chosen districts but before the kill, so if someone is killed and districts have to be merged because of too few people in a district, that still happens.

And after a coalition is elected, I get a one shot lock down, which basically means I can keep a district the same as it was the previous day and mafia can not move people in or out of it that night.

[hebichan]

Hebi, if I understand your ability correctly then surely to win you'd just need to make a district just the 2 of us? I'm more than happy to arrange a tied district with you.

I'm not sure I want to outright say my plan, because mafia could use the kill to subvert it, but I will keep that in mind.

Yeah, a two person district is optimal.

[hebichan]

aandd ome person didn't vote.

[hebichan]

I made a case on nk15.

I'm also third party, so take that as you will.

I just want the slot gone.

[hebichan]

Inviz and NK, don't care which order, just that it happens.

[hebichan]

And according to mod the entire game needs to tie for my condition and we have no idea how ties redolve without bb. L freaking o freakin L. Coulda been avoided if nk wasnt an idiot.

[hebichan]

VOTE: mutant

Since its probably best tie chance vote atm.

[hebichan]

Also I want more scum dead for a smaller playerlist for a tie.

Scums probably in
Wh4t, inviz, ohrz and less likely ank or numbers if were pushing a lurker team.

[hebichan]

I have been prodded but I have nothing to say.

Please shoot ohrz or invis.

[hebichan]

Cause I think voting mutant is a better chance of tying up votes, you currently have more votes iirc.

[hebichan]

Wut?

[hebichan]

I just realised that I can't use my ability anymore

???

[hebichan]

Since I realllly don't need to see 7 more days of this, I'll just chime in with, I'm doing what I need to for my win condition, and everyone else should too.

Third scums probably in the people yolo voting mutant to help me.

[hebichan]

Since I realllly don't need to see 7 more days of this, I'll just chime in with, I'm doing what I need to for my win condition, and everyone else should too.

Third scums probably in the people yolo voting mutant to help me.

You know that's only numbers right?

Can I ask why you're so bothered with two people voting for wheme to tie then? If numbers is the one voting weird bring that up.

But my votes completely consistent so idk why you're being so weird about it.

[hebichan]

VOTE: skitter

lets tie this up, and maybe help town get a scum lynch.

[hebichan]

having the entire town believe my stupid ass anarchist fakeclaim was the best feeling ever.

[hebichan]

I mean... I can, since I pushed it super hard, was expecting to get lynched for pushing nk15 so hard there.

[hebichan]

If you read the scum chat, duck was kept alive exactly as long as we needed him though... We kinda had a really solid strat all game, then mutant just told us about the masonry and literally no one else. The opinion polls gave us great mislynch pushes too.

[hebichan]

We basically never tried to win an election and purposely threw them to townies we were like 90% certain would lynch town that day. Doesn't help mutant, duck and a few others were the only ones responding the polls consistently, and constantly had terrible reads but were super town.


p-edit GODDAMN SMOKE, its not really nearby wildfire enough to get to us, but its just that smoke is getting blown this way

[hebichan]

We were actually worried ruby would win day one cause we had no idea what to do with a scum controlled lynch.

[hebichan]

Don't feel too bad, the polls were super anti-town anyhow.

[hebichan]

I feel like this game was a life lesson though. Never trust anarchists, don't tell the government who your best friends are, let the third party's fake win condition go off so you can lynch them cause it was fake.

[hebichan]

nk15 worried me early on tbh.

[hebichan]

one night we tried throwing it to wheme but

[hebichan]

I just finished the mafia PT.

Tbh, I'm kinda honoured that you considered killing me N1

So much of me was just wondering when I was gonna be lynched.

[hebichan]

having the entire town believe my stupid ass anarchist fakeclaim was the best feeling ever.

I didn’t believe it!

You weren't town.

But yeah, neither me nor ausuka believed it.

You believed it so hard you acted in an anti-town manner to prevent me from reaching my wincon in case I ended the game.

If you didn't believe it you should have just let the district tie.

[hebichan]

we decided it was gonna be you cause it wasn't gonna be me and Ruby and vizzy were completely MIA day 2, which zapped all of ruby's town cred.

[hebichan]

I basically sat in the tub thinking how to make a fake claim out of an ability that pretty much did zero things.

Then I was like, "It would make sense if I was an outsider with no power trying to fight the system!"

Then I had no idea how to set up a win condition, so I just made one that seemed really easy to make sure didn't happen, and made my two other abilities things that I could do as part of my mafia ability anyhow but were still in flavor.

Then town basically went, "Wow, that sounds really stupid to make up." and it was, it really, really was.

And then town let me slide besides very very little actual scum hunting, cause why scum hunt as 3p?

It basically only happened because ruby convinced me to go along with her plan night one. I wasn't convinced it was a good idea, and it wasn't, but she was all into it.

[hebichan]

its true, wraith and BB both had like really good reads but no charisma.

[hebichan]

hebi was sooo scummy

she had no credence

god only knows why you guys thought otherwise

This is my second scum game in a row where I sorta just openwolfed and hoped for the best, and both times my scum team won with zero scum deaths.