NY 213 - Game Over!

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Forgot about this

Confirm

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Yo.

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Creature wagon is bad

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Creature wagon is bad

How many games did you play with Creature?

Idk a lot

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This is Town!Creature:

1- Town!Creature.
2- Town!Creature. (I wasn't in this)
3- Town!Creature.

And this is Scum!Him

1- Scum!Creature.
2- Scum!Creature.

Feel free to find more games and compare his play as either alignment to his play here then tell me the wagon on him is bad.

Like sure if he’s the same later on go for it

It’s been like 2 pages though

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VOTE: Lalendra person

A50 is obv town here

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This game is huge

I still like my current vote

Hopkirk and a50 are my top 2 townreads

To many lurkers

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Srceenplay is done with mafiascum I think after his ban cause he tried to appeal it and Zor said no

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Srceenplay is done with mafiascum I think after his ban cause he tried to appeal it and Zor said no

why did you bring this up?....

Someone was talking about it

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wheme following up after an ISO - since you noticed screenplay, what's your read on him, and your read on the replacement?

I didn’t notice Srceenplay I just saw someone point out he’s site flaking

I think Vax is town Vax replaced Srceenplay right

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Me and hop have the best votes

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After work I want someone to talk to me about this

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Town

:

Leaning Town

: A50, KK
------- (town block)

Semi-leaning Town

: Osuka, Pine

Kind of town

: Hopkirk, Dunnstral, Creature, Scioness

Neutral/Undecided

: Lalendra (N), Ausuka (UD), JJD (UD), Android (N)

Meh

: Texcat, Lovebird, Performer

Leaning Scum

: Vaxkiller

Scum

:

Potential lynches:

Vax > Tex > Performer > Lovebird

You missed me

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@wheme you’re 100% right, vax replaced into screen, I replaced into the charles slot. My questions to you - why did you keep your naked vote on me since pg 1, and why did you invite me to your neighborhood? You are also one of my scumreads.

Bonus question: spot the truth.

What I am so lost

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Can someone tell me why osuka

Sincerely someone who doesn’t remember or probably hasn’t read a osuka post

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VOTE: JarJar

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Lalendra's starting to sound meh

THANK YOU TOWN CREATURE

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I mean, when I do eventually show up to the party, y’all gonna wish I’d be less active, let’s be honest.

Y’all know how I am. This is a blessing in disguise.

I have no idea who you are

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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I didn’t notice Srceenplay I just saw someone point out he’s site flaking

Where did you see that?

I think Vax is town Vax replaced Srceenplay right

What's your Vax and Performer reads?

He’s my dad

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flavor I put you with the wheme & mylon area, because you guys have been lurking. You suddenly pop up and become active only to me,

False

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Oh your boon

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performer wagon is great

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WhemeStar, still wanting those reads please.

on who

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WhemeStar, still wanting those reads please.

on who

Vax, Performer, any scumread.

Vax town performer scum

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@ausuka what in the? What are you talking about??

I'm thinking about Gamma. Maybe Texcat.

I don't see how they're scum. Why?


^pedit: say WHAT! Yes she IS town! Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!

This sounds so fake

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I’m like 7 pages behind and me posting thag made me lose my spot oh no

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Why are there no Ausuka votes here when the other two have over half the players between them.

You are part of the problem. You put the 8th vote on Performer rather than the 3rd on Ausuka.

Hint: I agree on the notion we should be lynching from within the neighborhood. I further agree that only 2 of them are getting all the votes/attention and -for some reason- Ausuka is being spared, which I don't like. I specifically don't like the fact she outed the neighborhood for no apparent reason, and I think this is her giving her scum team additional info since she can't do that in the scum PT. This is why I reconsidered her earlier mention of the Traitor which -at the time- didn't feel like signaling her role to the main team members, but it does now.

Omegalul

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bummer
UNVOTE: ausuka
if i will find time to catch i will do stuff and vote if i don't i will sheep etl/add to the biggest wagon to secure lynch.

Town post

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you wanted to lynch within the hood, you pended daychat confirm and wanted to lynch ausuka, you're on my wagon. So, I'm reevaluating my read on you as well as wheme, mylon, texcat, to name a few.

What was your read on me

I feel like your just spouting fake stuff and it’s scummy

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What kinda mini wagon was that Vax wagon

Good thing your a vig

Like a50 seemed to just copy all of the Golden dudes post and tried to make it like his when I don’t think he’s ever brought up Vax
My hard tr on a50 went downnnn
Kk all caught up

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On page 59 will read after work

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I thought FA was perm banned

Why’d Dave quit

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Leaf dude is scum

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On page 81

I have work so maybe will catch up after work

Jar jar is a good vote for now

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On page 81

I have work so maybe will catch up after work

Jar jar is a good vote for now

So why not vote?

Idk why does it matter

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Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax

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Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax

Vax is like...obv town here.

Wat pls explain

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Lol @ golden

creature aint never gettin lynched

VOTE: jar jar

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Why you defending me boon

Also creature is the easiest person to read on mafiascum.net so if you think he’s scum, ouch

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Have you played with creature

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ANSWER MINE FIRST

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Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax

Weird vote from someone who knows I play weird.

Talk to me wheme

I have no idea how you play

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ANSWER MINE FIRST

yes

if you really wanted to actually know you could of just checked my game history instead of being sarcastic

now answer my questions

Scum creature - never posts

Town creature - posts

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ANSWER MINE FIRST

yes

if you really wanted to actually know you could of just checked my game history instead of being sarcastic

now answer my questions

Scum creature - never posts

Town creature - posts

So is Creature scum? He doesn't seem to be posting.

I think he’s posting more than scum creature

Game is also moving slow

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Yah creature is lock town

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I don’t know how I feel about fa

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I don’t know how I feel about fa

Flavor leaf*

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I need to give this game attention

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Hard to get into normal games

some1 talk to me

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has literally not explained a single read in his crappy lurker ISO

Dats me

Catching up now

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I skipped 101

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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Boy o boy is this scum

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What’s the bonuses of keeping scum alive

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Holy crap

I’m on page 109

Also

@mod I turn 18 on the 14th so idk if I’ll be around that day

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There's no reason why we have to go after flavor leaf today

Sure there is. If he's scum, we force one of his buddies to commit to a mason claim today. They may be more hesitant to do it today because if one of them gets lynched/vigged/tracked/etc... then it leads right to the other player.

As we get closer to lylo, a scum buddy would be more likely to fakeclaim knowing that they only need 1 or 2 mislynches to win the game.

Forcing people to commit early means they are more likely to get caught. The more time that goes by, the easier it is for them to tell a lie to fit their narrative.

if he were lying we'd figure it out eventually and he wouldn't get away

Terrible logic. I'm tired of explaining basic mafia principles to people.

The town is on a clock in mafia. They only have X amount of mislynches before they lose. Scum just needs to stall long enough to run out that clock. Everytime town mislynches they move closer to that clock running out.

So who cares is we "eventually" will figure it out? Scum doesnt need all their members to survive to endgame in order to win.


THERE IS ZERO BENEFIT TO NOT FORCING THE MASON CLAIM TODAY.

Holy this is obj town

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VOTE: FL

I like KK based on his overall reads...mostly where I'm leaning. 2nd Mason should claim or FL should get lynched. If 2nd Mason claims, Mylo needs to go.

3 days left so you all on vanities need to actually do something productive with your vote.

I don’t really know if I like this vote

Hey penguin can you sum up for me why mylo besides the scum in the neighbor meta thingy

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If it was anyone else but you, I would agree.

I’m coming after penguin or Wheme

That’s what she said haha

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God dammit the double quote

I actually wanted to ask something about 2713 tho penguin

What do you mean by that?

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Didnt you guys like it better when I was lurking more?

It’s already INCREDIBLY obvious who my partner is, look at the crumbs, look at the reactions, and move on.

If it's incredibly obvious then it makes absolutely ZERO sense to not out it now.

It’s not my role to claim. They’re probably making a post right now.

dooo dooooo doo doo doooo

This is the jeopardy music

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Goldon Robster gets a bunch of town points for that gambit!

Also, I claim not mason!

Shush I’m in the middle of spamming

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Also, Wheme is scum, but he’s not the head scum.

Good thing your conf town!

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Haha were both reading

I knew Hopkirk was obv town

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That makes sense I guess.

Explain

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VOTE: PP

I apologize but I just got really dizzy somehow and it’s 6 AM so I think I’m going to go to bed

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Also I think golden rob is obv town and wagon is bad

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That makes sense I guess.

Explain

Them being masons make sense. Because they're, you know, not yelling at each other.

Btw, I'm sooo abusing that conf!town is calling me obvtown

Conf town doesn’t mean right town

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Also I think golden rob is obv town and wagon is bad

Isn't there only 1 person voting him? Kind of jumpy

Where I am there was quite a wagon forming on him

Not busy at work currently so gonna read what I can

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What does the neighbor meta thingy have to do with mylo?

Oh is wavemode the neighbor

Shows how uninvested I am In this game

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He was counter-wagon until he claimed VT though. Wouldn't it be the scum move to claim a PR to avoid the lynch (Vaxkiller-style)?

Was gonna bring this up

Are we just ignoring vax now?

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Sweet now I’m on break to catch up

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Holy crap

I’m on page 109

Also

@mod I turn 18 on the 14th so idk if I’ll be around that day

happy birthday my dude

Thanks!

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VOTE: Wheme

Please explain

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UNVOTE: i would be willing to lynch in Lalendra/Scion/Rob

VOTE: WhemeStar

?

i don't think any of those lynches is happening today?

also i take back what i said previously about this being wheme's town game

What’s my town game and what’s my scum game

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I feel the fact that Wheme isn’t getting stacked points towards him being scum.

I don’t get this post

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My wagon garbo

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Ok so I’m caught up from my last catch up but my last catchup wasn’t fully caught up

Should I read those pages cause apparently everyone unvoted golden rob in those pages

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I wish someone would talk to me when I’m “ caught up” and not 20000 pages behind

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hi, happy upcoming birthday!

what do you want to talk about? why is your wagon garbo?
you should read how the fake claim got resolved.

Thanks!

And i don’t know I just want PP lynched, my wagon is basically people voting me over somebody else that I scumread and then conf town people who think they are godly at Maria but are being useless

Where is the fake claim getting resolved at

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I wish someone would talk to me when I’m “ caught up” and not 20000 pages behind

Read on Creature?

Town town townn

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Why do you think PP scum? What do you think of other people that has been posting today

I don’t like his votes

I think golden rob summed it up

And what players specifically

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What do you think of Andriod

Oh uhm I don’t remember reading anything of android during my catchup

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I can do a quick iso dive

I’m off break though

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on, but of the three leading wagons

????

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I wish someone would talk to me when I’m “ caught up” and not 20000 pages behind

Read on Creature?

Town town townn

Why? I thought the meta was that he lurks as scum.

He wasn’t lurking earlier,

Never seen him replace out either

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Literally I’m town reading the entirety of the Wheme wagon minus Tehbrawl, but they’re neutral.

Me too besides wave

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on, but of the three leading wagons

????

what?

There’s 2 wagons

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Ok so I’m caught up from my last catch up but my last catchup wasn’t fully caught up

Should I read those pages cause apparently everyone unvoted golden rob in those pages

if you're not invested into this game why did you join in the first place?

seem to have feelings about wagon on you except calling it garbo

Mod asked me to

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I wish someone would talk to me when I’m “ caught up” and not 20000 pages behind

hi
you say your wagon is garbo, so what about it is garbo? also have a garboman

Seems to me like it’s a compromise lynch

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I will out reads when I feel like it, probably when I actually read what I missed, I do think PP is kinda scummy for what you listed though, especially him voting you over his other reads. I also don't get why people are calling wheme scummy, if it's for lurking I think that's kinda how he plays normally?

vote-hopping, consistently being in the background while conveniently switching wagons when needed and given scant reasoning

when you ISO wheme do you think it comes from town or scum?

Jesus go check my other games

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If it’s a PR claim, I’m going to see it as a fake claim, if it’s a VT claim, I’m going to see it as either a fake claim or the correct move for the day because worst case scenario we lose a VT who has debatably the worst ISO sin the game.

You keep saying I have the worst iso can you please explain oh great boon

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wheme has posted on site within the last half hour.

Lol

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whemestar at L-2

hardclaim now

I’ll claim when there’s intent to hammer

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My vote is available before deadline if needed

Hi Dunn

You wanna talk?

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Well I wanna talk with someone

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What do you want to talk about Wheme?

My wagon

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Do you scumread anyone on it

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k
VOTE: wheme
dunn please intent

Lol

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Do you scumread anyone on it

Lalendra, I don't know why she voted you

Hey me too

Sorry I’m working right now

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WHEME PLZ CLAIM THANKS

We have time

I’m at work

I want to claim and then have a discussion. Right now I cant

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His claim literally is meaningless. We’ll find out when he flips.

He claims the strongest role ever, I’m still wanting him lynched, and he should still be lynched.

K but we’re tonna still talk after my claim

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UNVOTE: wheme

This vote's coming back tonight but I'll give you a few hours time.

I’m “scheduled” off in 2 hours

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WHEME PLZ CLAIM THANKS

We have time

I’m at work

I want to claim and then have a discussion. Right now I cant

Yeah. about 22 hours to deadline. You've been the major wagon for the past couple of days in a game where it takes forever to get a wagon going. You joined this game as a favor to the mod and you're going to be coquettish and not claim?

You;re not town.

What

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WHEME PLZ CLAIM THANKS

We have time

I’m at work

I want to claim and then have a discussion. Right now I cant

Yeah. about 22 hours to deadline. You've been the major wagon for the past couple of days in a game where it takes forever to get a wagon going. You joined this game as a favor to the mod and you're going to be coquettish and not claim?

You;re not town.

What

Did you not get asked to join by the mod I thought like everyone in this playerlist did

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Omg he still hasn't claimed. Just hammer.

I’ve already gave my reasons

Why are you so in a rush

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Did you not get asked to join by the mod I thought like everyone in this playerlist did

No. I joined because I wanted to play. Is this really what you wanted to spend your time discussing?

I’m still at work

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1 more hour

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Yo im off work

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Whos here

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Anyone here

I wanna talk after I claim

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Hello

We got 19 hours to lynch PP

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Hi

Im town doctor

Targeted Hopkirk N1

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Nope

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I thought scum wouldnt kill the IC N1 because of protective and thought that they wouldnt kill creature cause hes not doing anything so targeted hopkirk

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So, you got your Doctor PM. You saw the Innocent Child announcement. You saw some mason claims and you didn't scratch your head at the idea that town is over-powered?

For
I’m not a set up analysis

Their all conf town and I know my role

You tell me if it’s over powered or not and then go and predict scum powers

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Their all conf town and I know my role

Well masons aren’t but I highly townread hopkirk so

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Flavor leaf is a big face palm

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Srceenplay says boon fake claims masons with neighbors and ends up being scum

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Im done with boon

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Shows he had some knowledge of the game which leans scum anyways since his ISO wouldnt suggest he knew anything.

Who misses an IC reveal?

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Just because I’m not caught up day 2 doesn’t mean I didn’t read anything day 1

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reaction to the hammer is surely scum. No reads list. No "Lynch X tomorrow". Just acceptance.

My gues for remaining scum: Android, Dunn, and then maybe SS or Lalend

I don’t do that

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Holy some1 has a brain

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I’m the mason, though. I’ll take that chance.

It’s a scummy claim because it will out other protective roles with it fake.

Your partner is more likely to die over you tho

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reaction to the hammer is surely scum. No reads list. No "Lynch X tomorrow". Just acceptance.

I don’t do that

I think u meant to say: I don’t do that

unless I'm town

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0#p8823570

Dong, if you think I'm scum and you guys end up lynching me. Who are you looking at after I flip green?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p9128269

Hey Dreal how will your reads change if i flip town?

Lynch Dreal tomorrow

your going to meta me off of my first newbie game on the site that had 9(?) players?

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and a game I self hammered as doctor because I was frustrated that people didn’t believe my claim because I didn’t claim flavor?

Get your bs out of here

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JarJar is prob scum

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He's being completely survivalistic

Shows he had some knowledge of the game which leans scum anyways since his ISO wouldnt suggest he knew anything.

this

don't think he crumbed in the lead up to his wagon

Yeah crumbing is stupid

Please tell me how my ISO suggests I don’t know anything

You guys are coming up with more and more bs reasons

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Literally called hopkirk obv town day 1

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Wheme isn't scummy around hammer

Yes he is. He's being completely survivalistic. Every post is designed to get votes off him. It's clear he doesn't care what happens if he gets roped.

Not AI so please come up with something else

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Wheme isn't scummy around hammer

Yes he is. He's being completely survivalistic. Every post is designed to get votes off him. It's clear he doesn't care what happens if he gets roped.

Not AI so please come up with something else

survivalistic is NAI? It's like the THE defining scum trait.

You wanna meta me from that newbie game? Did the same thing there..

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You have 3 confirmed town on Wheme and he’s getting hard wagon stalled.

This is scum.

Wagon stall?

And Jesus conf town = right town?

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You have 3 confirmed town on Wheme and he’s getting hard wagon stalled.

This is scum.

Wagon stall?

And Jesus conf town = right town?

And one of the conf town just placed one of the weaker votes on me

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Will switched if needed.

It's needed. Please go back to wheme.

Nothing?

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Nothing?

I'm not engaging you as it likely wont help people lynch you which is all I care about right now.

If u wanna drop a reads list, I promise to give it due attention in the event you flip green.

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I'm not engaging you as it likely wont help people lynch you

This is basically

Your town but I don’t want you to convince people your town

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if u wanted to engage people and have them sort you properly, u wouldnt have waited until the last possible moment to claim.

There's 8 hours until deadline so yes, all I care about is getting those last 2 votes on you.

I thought you Read that newbie game if your gonna use it to call me scum

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What kinda vote is that gamma

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What kinda vote is that gamma

one where I realize your own presented meta makes this situation look really bad on you
Seriously, you say that newbie is invalid but actually it's VERY similar to here, in fact I think you said it's invalid BECAUSE you knew how badly it reflected on you and wanted to cover it up.

It was my first newbie game on site

I was town that newbie game gamma???

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What kinda vote is that gamma

one where I realize your own presented meta makes this situation look really bad on you
Seriously, you say that newbie is invalid but actually it's VERY similar to here, in fact I think you said it's invalid BECAUSE you knew how badly it reflected on you and wanted to cover it up.

It was my first newbie game on site

I was town that newbie game gamma???

Like your saying I wanted to cover up a game that was very similar and I was town in the game

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Yeah Wheme not liking your play here

Cool

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Half of my wagon is stupid anyways

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Can someone explain gammas vote

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What kinda vote is that gamma

one where I realize your own presented meta makes this situation look really bad on you
Seriously, you say that newbie is invalid but actually it's VERY similar to here, in fact I think you said it's invalid BECAUSE you knew how badly it reflected on you and wanted to cover it up.

It was my first newbie game on site

I was town that newbie game gamma???

in that newbie where you self-hammered you were frustrated because no one believed you right
no one seems to believe you here either, so it's a mindset slip imo

I self hammered in the second game

The mini theme where I was doc

Newbie game I was vt, no self hammer

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tbh Wheme and PP should like be cleared based on scum having dominance

u havent been here. Wheme has been the wagon w/ the most resistance. It's been TOUGH getting these 11 votes on there.

Seems like it happened pretty fast

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Wheme, are you going to post reads?

I don’t even know every player in this playerlist

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I’ll try though whateverb

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Townreads - Creature, Dunn, golden robster, scioness sajj, Kublai (?)
Kublai weakest one because I’m not sure why I townreads him he just pings me that way

Scumreads- tehbrawlgiy, gamma, PP, lalendra

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K creature you can hammer now I give up trying to convince dumb town

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Way to lynch me on my birthday guys

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Rest of reads are null btw because either because they’re not posting or because I don’t remember reading any of their posts

Didn’t include the conf town because lazy

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Way to lynch me on my birthday guys

Holy hot damn, this AtE almost got me to unvote. I’m so sorry.

It’s k still love ya boon