NY 213 - Game Over!

[osuka]

/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

[osuka]

/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

sory

***regular rolecop

[osuka]

VOTE: pine

[osuka]

Omg we have ausuka and osuka both playing???

oh no this is gonna be bad

i'm one of those names and i was confused for a second

[osuka]

VOTE: wavemode

/confirm

osuka and ausuka...?

hmmmm, it's confusing but not THAT confusing

if i got a nickel for every time i was called 'asuka' on here, i could probably make a job out of it

[osuka]

VOTE: uzuka VOTE:

nice

for future reference in this game: if anyone mentions a name that is neither mine or ausuka's and it's not immediately clear which it is, i'll prob just assume

youre stupid

it's neither of us and completely ignore it

[osuka]

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

[osuka]

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me, I’d have more money than I would if I got them for the name thing

[osuka]

Thank you everyone, very cool!

VOTE: wavemode
because last time we played together you were scum and I’m pretty sure you made it to end game

[osuka]

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

best pregame case I've seen in a long time.

VOTE: osuka

follow up question: is it the only pregame case you’ve seen in a while?

[osuka]

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

best pregame case I've seen in a long time.

VOTE: osuka

follow up question: is it the only pregame case you’ve seen in a while?

hehe, busted.


followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

[osuka]

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

[osuka]

almost that might be the shittiest attempt at a game starting post I’ve ever seen, I’m sorry

it’s like you’re trying to grasp at straws when, actually, there are no straws

[osuka]

If it’s not a joke you already know what’s gonna happen

[osuka]

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

I'll answer u after charles answers me.

So I guess we have to lynch almost to see if we win on day 1.

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: jarjar
the lynch train goes choo choo

[osuka]

If you divide the player count by 4, you get a closer number to what you would expect from a vanilla mafia vs vanilla townies setup. I don’t think we should be talking setup right now but I feel like it’s obvious there’s 5-6 scum

[osuka]

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

[osuka]

it’s page 6, I shouldn’t need to tell anyone to read the thread this soon

And yet here we are

[osuka]

This is by far the earliest in any game I’ve had to quote myself

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

best pregame case I've seen in a long time.

VOTE: osuka

follow up question: is it the only pregame case you’ve seen in a while?

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

I'll answer u after charles answers me.

So I guess we have to lynch almost to see if we win on day 1.

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: jarjar
the lynch train goes choo choo

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

plus the way you reacted to the push on this page

[osuka]

I was voting your for the stupid BS stuff you were doing earlier, you could have ridden that out. But now you are super number 1 scum with a bullet.

I think you can do better than "stupid BS". How about "low life SoB"? Like, I started the game with the intention to have fin,. and I'm not gonna let a #@$% like you ruin that for me, so you are on my ignore list already. Over and out.

tilted already? Man this games going fast

[osuka]

remember that prodging is half a prod in those rules so please don’t get replaced out

[osuka]

Not getting on that Almost50 wagons. Looks like a lot of unnecessary votes there!!

So, my revised scum team is Creature+Android+Fumuki+Hopkirk+Mylo

Game solved!!

LOL, I liked your long post and this. Mixed feelings!!!

VOTE: Creature

Solely based on his inactivity. New policy, lynch all inactives

Why only creature? Easy pick?

VOTE: TheRampge

what in the fuck

VOTE: aa9

[osuka]

VOTE: Osuka

since wavemode isn't engaging me

Okay then, am I supposed to engage you?

[osuka]

VOTE: Osuka

since wavemode isn't engaging me

what in the fuck

What's wrong with @AA9 #223?

The way it’s phrased is very artificial and then it does a 180, badly misreps rampages post and accuses him of picking on creature

[osuka]

catching up

[osuka]

badly misreps rampages post

How does it misrep rampage's post?

aa9 implies rampage says "lynch creature,

and only creature

, because he's inactive", when in fact he did say lynch

all

inactives. it's just a cheap push

[osuka]

Okay then, am I supposed to engage you?

Why is JJD giving you newbscum vibes btw?

numerous edgy push attempts (none of which have a lot of support), forced phrasing and he's deflecting a lot. It really smells like a scum role + someone who doesn't know how to play it

actually the more i read his iso, the more i like him for scum

[osuka]

not sure how i feel about hopkirk. very up in the air right now, but i'm fairly sure that slot is either pr or scum.

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

khan can be town for now

[osuka]

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

vote JJD with me; a50 in my town block and aa9 hasn't posted enough real content to ping me

how is a50 in your town bloc

[osuka]

VOTE: pine

[osuka]

yeah am liking osuka for leaning town

can do this

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

what the hell are u doing Robster?

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

vote JJD with me; a50 in my town block and aa9 hasn't posted enough real content to ping me

Stop u dont scumread me.

see this shit right here is why you’re prime lynch material

[osuka]

sorry hit send instead of preview

VOTE: jarjar

[osuka]

Stop u dont scumread me.

what makes you think that

cuz ur a good player and I think ur town so u should be townreading me

can we lynch this slot please

[osuka]

Alright

VOTE: Osuka

Let's see what happens with this one.

by which you mean...?

you voted me, didn't say anything, and then nothing happened. satisfied?

[osuka]

shameless prodge because it’s 23:40 over here, I just got home and I’m about to pass out. I need to put furniture together tomorrow so I don’t know if I can post everything I want to, but I’ll try my best to do that

if there’s anything pressing anyone needs to ask me please @ me because I only skimmed through the last couple pages

[osuka]

im catching up to actually discuss everything from the mid 400s. letting you know so you can prepare because i'll absolutely blow your shit up

pedit: haha can anyone

[osuka]

Ahh, I have no idea what to do here.

If you are town , just focus on a few people at a time. D1 in large normals are typically a ton of information. Narrow it down to a few people at a time, is one way to go about it. That's what I'm trying to do to keep sane here.
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Ausuka, Dunnstral, JarJarDrinks, Kublai Khan, Lalendra, Pine, Srceenplay, texcat, TheRampage, Wavemode, WhemeStar,

How can you have TR wavemode and whemestar?

and Screenplay jesus

Tr on golden here. I replaced in to help out ircher, my old-time buddy - before that, I read the slots I could replace into. I was seeing screenplay as scummy, but when I wanted to choose another slot I thought was still open, it was too late and I was stuck into this one. Fortunately this slot (me) I'm in , is town.
I can see why golden has sr on screenplay though, he posted quite a bit of fluff.

this post has odd phrasing and a peculiar message. the tone is especially funny for a message that says "i thought my slot was scum and unfortunately i wanted to replace elsewhere, but fortunately it's green, but, you know, i can see how you may disagree, so that's alright"

[osuka]

Skimmed a bit. Not time to make a full post tonight. Should do tomorrow.
If I said I liked Ouska, I don't now.

care to elaborate? i'm in one of your poe pools but you never actually pointed at anything that makes you not like me. genuinely curious here

pedit: i've never played with performer but that's not just awkward, to be honest

[osuka]

Creature I need to engage someone on something I've been reevaluating. If someone brought up talk of something no one mentioned at all in a large normal, isn't that fishy ? I'm reevaluating a read of mine.

this is really, really backwards and sets off numerous alarms over here. while he does have a point in 502 about the traitor being way too specific (which, yes, is a little odd), the way he brought that up and the fact that he got hung up on it for more than a handful of pages after it was first mentioned makes this read really, really weird.

[osuka]

Hey everyone!

Ok so I've been skimming up to pg 7 and I am just dying laughing at some of these funny posts. I mean, man. Smokebomb throwing, claiming bp pgo compulsive commuter...one of the funniest games I've seen in awhile.

On a serious note, I don't like asuka mentioning a traitor. I hosted an offsite game where I had a mafia traitor. It really looks like signaling of some sort , what she did. And that's not a good thing for town, if there's a traitor.

Personally I think there exists 4-6 scum in this 25 pool if I were to go by the 20% guideline.

The mentioning of creature lurking on d1 , is true from what I recall. He's the only one I played with in a large normal , years ago. Interestingly he was town that game. Unless it's one of my idols, I don't believe giving someone a free pass just because it's how they play, is a wise idea.

Anyway, have to continue my catchup. I have a big bunch of null right now.

Reading this as scummy

me too

This metoo post is not good. ETL, can you tell us anything about why you think the post was scummy?

he said exactly what i was thinking. saying "me too" sums that up pretty well imo. and i think it's scum because it sounds fake as hell and all his posts are LAMIST-y nonsense. "hur hur yah we don't wanna do anything SCUMMY now would we?" <<< that's how all his posts come off. trying waaaaay too hard to be "nonchalant" and to look town without actually being town, not to mention every single "observation" he's made thus far has just been regurgitating facts rather than actual opinions.

he's scum. kill it with fire.

VOTE: performer

great post, good points. liking etl as town here

i think i like performer

how in the fuck

[osuka]

Actually. Kublai, do you have any reason to not vote for JarJar?

No. He's not on my townlist right now. But not near the top of the scumlist either. If other people weren't pushing him, I might be.

at this point in time, jarjar has 3 votes on him. that's barely a wagon

why are you trying to hard to not do anything meaningful?

[osuka]

No. He's not on my townlist right now. But not near the top of the scumlist either. If other people weren't pushing him, I might be.

Scion is a vanity wagon so join us over here:

VOTE: JarJar

Eh.. not really vanity. It was a prodding vote. Which worked. But yeah, let's move the vote.

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

and then flip flops, what the shit

JarJarDrinks(4) ~ Golden Robster, Myloninja13, Osuka, Vaxkiller

Robster is town. Mafia logic says one or more of these other numbnuts are scum.

VOTE: Osuka

Lotsa good folk on this wagon

and

then

, there's this post. jarjar i'll tell you right now that you're in a pretty deep hole but so are some other slots, so if you just let go of the shovel and let everyone else dig themselves deeper, you might not top my lynch list tonight

[osuka]

texcat

- you have asked a lot of questions - do you have any conclusions? or just reads.

My strongest scum reads are Osuka and ArcAngel9. I'm still waiting for ArcAngel9 to come back and explain 235. I definitely need to see more from her.
I am suspicious of Edos (because I thought A50's reasons had some merit), ETL (who explained his metoo post, but I'd like to see more), Lovebird (who jumped on the Edos bandwagon, but claimed it wasn't a sheep and claimed she had her own reasons, but didn't bother to tell us what they were).

why do you scumread me?

[osuka]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

[osuka]

This is not a content heavy catch up.

my dude, neither is yours. you basically didn't say anything substantial in half the posts from 574 to 586. i don't like how your catch up mostly feels like asking miscellaneous questions and redirecting statements

[osuka]

JarJarDrinks(4) ~ Golden Robster, Myloninja13, Osuka, Vaxkiller

Robster is town. Mafia logic says one or more of these other numbnuts are scum.

vote vaxkiller with me

i think ur town but u acting scummy

what sense does this make?

[osuka]

and also i'm pretty sure i declared v/la so i didn't have time to quote and go into it more than pointing out something i agreed with. that's gonna be the case for much of this first game day. personal shit. i'm not gonna waste time defending my short posts for today. deal with it. ALSO ALSO i find it suspicious that you jumped to his defense. just saying.

I find suspicious that you voted me because you thought my opening my lamist, then dunn echoes you by saying that my opening post was scummy, texcat asked dunn for elaboration, then you say texcat was "defending" me... really now??
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/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

sory

***regular rolecop

VOTE: wavemode

/confirm

osuka and ausuka...?

hmmmm, it's confusing but not THAT confusing

if i got a nickel for every time i was called 'asuka' on here, i could probably make a job out of it

Thank you everyone, very cool!

VOTE: wavemode
because last time we played together you were scum and I’m pretty sure you made it to end game

These are the most suspicious posts I noticed from an osuka ISO, when looking at why he was the leading wagon. He even votes wavemode twice in a row. Votes wave and votes him again, despite already voting him. None of this makes sense if osuka is town.
VOTE: osuka
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Also, we're getting close to the Saturday half-day mark. If we can consolidate votes, that would be good.

how far up your ass, exactly, is your head?

you're picking on rvs posts? we're in the 600s already - if this isn't a straight up invented case on someone, i don't know what is

and "consolidate votes"? really? that sounds disgusting

why would you want to "consolidate votes" (read: wagon someone, probably town, so that you can lynch someone without personal repercussions) halfway through the day, especially if it's day 1? we still have a week left until n1 and you're already talking about the deadline, jesus

[osuka]

Spoiler:

This is by far the earliest in any game I’ve had to quote myself

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

best pregame case I've seen in a long time.

VOTE: osuka

follow up question: is it the only pregame case you’ve seen in a while?

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

I'll answer u after charles answers me.

So I guess we have to lynch almost to see if we win on day 1.

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: jarjar
the lynch train goes choo choo

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

plus the way you reacted to the push on this page

Idk, osuka hasn’t been looking very good to me and this is detailing why somewhat: his priorities on what he’s pushing feel distorted

what are my perceived priorities vs. the ones you expect?

[osuka]

not sure how i feel about hopkirk. very up in the air right now, but i'm fairly sure that slot is either pr or scum.

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

khan can be town for now

I think he’s kinda been sensible, why do you perceive it as a breakdown?

just his general tone makes him sound like he's so far out of his comfort zone that it's a little pitiful, really

[osuka]

Is tehre a case on osuka or just the typical Day 1 lynchmob?

not a case per se but I give a reason in 112

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

this is, hands down, one of the most shit reasons i've ever seen anyone try to start a lynch wagon on d1 for. especially given that the post of mine you use as the (apparently sole) reason for the push was actually a reply to a question of none other than yourself

[osuka]

VOTE: Osuka

As I have been reading through all these pages and catching up, the thing that stood out to me was the self meta thing, along with his response through voting JarJar. Seems a little overly defensive and to me like he picked and chose the easiest target to go after to try and get another lynch wagon going.

funny way to write "i'll just sheep jarjar"

[osuka]

from 682-689, gamma sounds really towny and, to an extent, so does a50.

there's actually a good chance that that's tvt - but if it is not, i'm picking gamma to be the town side every time

[osuka]

"P.S. Don't forget I am one of the best players on MS who can read you. Also, I already had Edo down as Scum, and you only confirmed it to me. 100% Scum slot."
Whoaaaa a50. I think I am out of my league being in this game LOL.
I had edo as scum because of lurk though. Gamma is the complete opposite.

Well it's true. Ask him. I have more than 80% accuracy reading Gamma vs less than 40% average in general (and some players I have less than 10% hit rate on them).

The meme was referring to a game I was so sure he was scum I fake claimed a guilty on him and his response convinced others to lynch him even after I declared it was fake (and he did flip scum).

@Gamma: your catchup comes from scum Gamma. It reminds me a lot of a scum sub-in and catch up you did last time we played. Is this playstyle/do you catch up the same as town (if so can you link something I guess).

@Performer: See? I'm not the only one who can see through that facade Gamma's putting on. I'm just as convinced Osuka is Scum so I don't mind lynching her first.

this is a shitty post and a shittier attempt at pushing the gamma slot. you can't just claim "i know how to read this player and nobody else does" and expect an actual discussion to exist, because that's an argument that's at least partially subjective and very difficult to refute

[osuka]

KHAN dont be lurky. You're supposed to be showing me how to be awesome.

C'mon EspeciallyTheLies.. You're on indefinite V/LA and you're going to bust my balls for lurking?

But I'm bored waiting for responses, so I should do something.

VOTE: Osuka

lol what

[osuka]

Quick association ISO:

- Osuka doesnt mention Vox even once

- Vox says one thing about Osuka:

I have no read on Osuka but I could vote there, but I would prefer GoldenRob. Is tehre a case on osuka or just the typical Day 1 lynchmob?

Says he would vote there but tries to subtlety hint that the wagon isnt good.

my guy you're trying to run associations under the assumption that i'm scum, but if i do get lynched today i'll flip green and i hope you're at the top of everyone else's lynch pools tomorrow. i haven't acknowledged vax because there was nothing to engage him on, and honestly he's right in the sense that the wagon you spawned hinges on 112

[osuka]

not sure how i feel about hopkirk. very up in the air right now, but i'm fairly sure that slot is either pr or scum.

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

khan can be town for now

I think he’s kinda been sensible, why do you perceive it as a breakdown?

just his general tone makes him sound like he's so far out of his comfort zone that it's a little pitiful, really

That’s not how I interpret it at all, he seems perfectly fine

agree to disagree i suppose

[osuka]

updated lynch pool, in no particular order:

performer
a50
khan
hopkirk
jarjar
therampage


those are names i want to discuss more. i expect at least 4 of those to be scum
VOTE: performer
since people dont wanna talk about jarjar

[osuka]

i can join you on rampage, sure. i still think performer is scummy af but as i said i'm happy to put pressure and discuss any of those names
VOTE: rampage

[osuka]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

Are you saying that nobody hard-defending someone on day 1 is reason to scum read them?

Nice chainsaw though.

i never said that.

nice misrep though

[osuka]

when i flip green tonight please lynch jarjar tomorrow

[osuka]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

Are you saying that nobody hard-defending someone on day 1 is reason to scum read them?

Nice chainsaw though.

i never said that.

nice misrep though

No but u implied it. ANd if u werent implying it then what is the point of saying it?

I'm calling out Vax because his reason for voting me is terrible. He said that the fact that nobody is defending me is a his reason for voting me.

Do you think that is a bad reason or not?

i'm not implying it. i'm stating it so as to discredit your point, because your point was horseshit. whether you're being hard defended or not, at a decent level of play, is nai - it's only useful to draw association conclusions, none of which can be done d1 (because there's no flip).

now, assuming he is voting you only for not being on anyone's townreads, i do agree that that is pretty terrible. however, that does not mean that the way you defended yourself, or the arguments you posed to convince us that it is terrible, are not also terrible. In fact, they're terribler.

i think his reasons are pretty bad, but i do think that you're more scummy than his reasons are bad. so, unless you give me reason not to, i'm siding with vax on this one

[osuka]

The second one is something that's hard to explain in words? but it should be obvious just from the gamestate, the lack of a clear PoE, and the fact that even if osuka was to be scum, he's just being bussed and there are likely 5 we don't know about. just seems blatantly obvious that this is a normal game and town aren't dominating.

Getting strong scum-vibes from you Ausuka. You're not trying to help or add to any town cohesion, you're just attempting to disrupt it.

so right now in this game i have a problem with my scumreads

usually whenever there is a problem, youre just not sure enough about who to vote for. in this case, however, the problem is that i'm convinced more than one of them is scum. case in point, above, one of the more offending posts ive seen in this thread so far

[osuka]

+ doesn't look like he's trying to set up good associatives either.

Teach me how u one can figure this out on day one w/ no flips. How would scum go about setting up good associatives?

By fighting and distancing with one another. Scum do this. He seems more concerned with lynching scum in general than making people look good with his flip.

VOTE: Ausuka
- Osuka and I have been all over eachother for a good part of the game.
- Ausuka supposedly scumreads me.

Read what's quoted and tell me how what Ausuka is saying makes any sense.

case in point 2.0

[osuka]

So just pick one? Idk

well i did

[osuka]

osuka's flip would interest me but I don't think it'd flip scum mostly because he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing.

Why does that mean he can't be scum?

Mostly because he's been made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is.

What does him being "made out to be a lot more scummy than he really is" have to do with him being a topic of the game for so long?

You didnt say U dont think it'll flip scum cuz u dont like any of the scum points against him. You said that the reason is because "he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing".

791 sounds like straight bullshit.

this post is stupid

i've been the topic of the game for as long as i have

because

youve made bullshit points and got a wagon going

[osuka]

you should feel personally attacked, given the quality and quantity of the content youve been putting out so far

[osuka]

Creature do you think the rampage wagons not going anywhere? Because you could always hop in

[osuka]

Now Performer is in a spot where I’ve done exactly what they were implying I should do, however it was targeted at him.

I’m curious to see how Performer responds to me before I take much further action (I’ll probably delve Performer more in a bit)

If he comes at me, he’s strictly attacking for just analyzing one of my posts. I’m very aware that you could be town, but am leaning towards ScumPerf yet and seeing projection in your posts. Can I see you posting like this as town? Sure, but it’s enough that I’m going to delve further into it until I can figure out what I need or see something else worth putting more time into.

So Performer...how will you respond?

Why did you post this? Now he's self-conscious about the whole thing and will be checking himself.

ebwop: *if he's scum he will be

oof

[osuka]

okay so heres a crazy thought

[osuka]

so like the performer wagon isnt going anywhere and even thought id love to see that lynch i can settle for rampage, which more people seem to be down with

so why not go on a rampage wagon and see what comes out of it

[osuka]

or, alternatively, @ausuka and @creature, would you guys be willing to jump on a performer wagon?

i dont think we have enough time for a vax wagon to proper pick up but personally, i'd entertain one

[osuka]

VOTE: performer
we need a real wagon. if people arent down to lynch performer, i'll vote wavemode

lynching either gives a 50% chance of scum, as i see it, because im fairly confident ausuka is town

[osuka]

@mod: i voted for performer in 1047

Mostly fixed. The voting history will be fixed in the next VC, but the current wagons should have been fixed. Thank you!
~Ircher

[osuka]

etl is basically conftown at this point in my book

can we lynch performer please

[osuka]

First part, I’m not sure on the second part. I don’t think I’m leaning there.

can you please clarify? this is phrased kinda backwards so i dont really know what you mean

[osuka]

did you know that if you write performer backwards it spells out godfather

[osuka]

1st half of the Performer wagon was good/townreads.
Then Wave wagon happens pretty rapidly.
Then Performer grows by four.
Isn't Performer a counterwagon to Wave?

Meanwhile Osuka went from 10 votes to 3 just because... I don't know, actually. Why did everybody jump off of Osuka?

because it was a bullshit wagon to begin with?

[osuka]

I need to reread Ousuka tomorrow.

pedit- uh what.

what? who are you talking about

[osuka]

happy here too because i did townread ausuka a fair bit, even if i was really paranoid of buddying


pedit: rtft a50

[osuka]

wavemode did not claim

i would like to see a performer lynch and i'm still okay with lynching a50 in this fine day 1 we have here but, since the game needs to go somewhere
VOTE: vax

hopefully just to put some pressure, see what happens

[osuka]

wavemode did not claim

i would like to see a performer lynch and i'm still okay with lynching a50 in this fine day 1 we have here but, since the game needs to go somewhere
VOTE: vax

hopefully just to put some pressure, see what happens

You're ok with an A50 lynch but you vote his vanity wagon? How do you reconcile that?

most people tr a50 and he has zero votes on him right now

voting a50 accomplishes fuck all

[osuka]

I'm a vig so lets fucking kill one of these fucks and Ill shot the other one dumbasses

oof

[osuka]

if one of them flips red, the other is probtown so i dont see why youd do that

[osuka]

u rly think they wouldnt bus?

i think hardbussing is excessive at this point in the game

so put it that way

[osuka]

well give me a list of acceptable shots

if we get a green flip in the neighborhood, i think the third person (whoever didnt get lynched & isnt ausuka) is the obvious shot

if we get a red flip (in the neighborhood as well), i'd be inclined to hit jarjar or a50

if we lynch outside of the neighborhood, i would shoot performer

[osuka]

wavemode did not claim

i would like to see a performer lynch and i'm still okay with lynching a50 in this fine day 1 we have here but, since the game needs to go somewhere
VOTE: vax

hopefully just to put some pressure, see what happens

You're ok with an A50 lynch but you vote his vanity wagon? How do you reconcile that?

most people tr a50 and he has zero votes on him right now

voting a50 accomplishes fuck all

That doesn't explain why voting

with

your scum read is town/good/productive/etc.

maybe my reasons are bad, but it does

something

i dont like how the game is set up right now so it's up to me to take it upon myself to shift it

[osuka]

and since vax claimed vig i'll go back to VOTE: performer

didnt really accomplish anything i had in mind but i did do something. rip

[osuka]

I'm not asking to vigged or lynched, but if we end up with a no lynch, I imagine we'll be back to square one.

“oh man how tragic would it be if we had a no lynch, eh? *wink wink*”

[osuka]

Are we aiming to lynch

scum

, or are we punishing people for their bad play?

Yes

>"a or b?"
>"yes"

[osuka]

so is this really gonna be a no lynch

[osuka]

@etl, gamma, creature, ausuka:
who do you guys think the better lynch today is? I'm willing to sheep any one of you but i wanna hear some reasonings

i'm more inclined to lynch performer but a18 has always been in my lynchpool. he's at l-3 and i'll prob be here for the hammer if need be

[osuka]

i think youre scum performer (ive established that), but my reads have been kind of iffy this game so i'd appreciate the extra input.

i lean towards a18 being scum but nothing too bad. I like the people on a18 wagon better though

obviously etl, gamma, creature and ausuka are townreads, or i wouldnt be asking for their feedback in such a direct way. but, you know, given some of your posts so far, i wouldnt take that as a given

[osuka]

Self vote when town, is probably only helpful when you're a vengeful though...so.... I am thinking of venging osuka.

that just goes to show you really dont know how to play this game

[osuka]

jesus all this talk about venging me is stupid

go ahead and kill me but if i was a mafia rolecop i wouldnt have played the way i have. that implies im a fucking idiot

i'm sorry if i have been absent, didn't mean to be

strong scum reads are: jarjar and a50. please look into them

i trust ausuka, gamma, frozen angel, and etl. take that for what you will

[osuka]

peace out fam, its been real

im gonna get venged by performer so that's 2 townies in a night, good start

[osuka]

happy cakeday ircher

[osuka]

for the record: i'd venge kublai, wavemode, or a18

pedit i'm not trying to escape it, i'm writing my reads so you guys can read it d2 or whatever

[osuka]

Osuka why do you trust ETL? Is it still just that she's aggressively pushing a lynch on day 1?

pedit: I meant the post before that, I was trying to clarify what my post meant because it was very very unclear.

just feels really towny and genuine. etl is just a strong townread here

[osuka]

Osuka made a shitpost in RVS and people think that it meant he was really a mafia rolecop.