NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

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VOTE: profii

I'll get paranoid and tunnel profii eventually let's just get that over with

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Happy scumday Flubz

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I'll just VOTE: the worst as my way of saying hi

Nooooo HWS did you roll scum this time

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howdy chickadee

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It'll be fun* I promise**

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Are we still in RVS?
We are? Great.
VOTE: worst

I've got some really good news

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Are we still in RVS?
We are? Great.
VOTE: worst

I've got some really good news

What's the good news?

I'm not mafia this time

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.....though statistically speaking that means there's like an 80% chance brass is......

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I'm not mafia this time

So you are a Serial Killer again?

you betcha. are you ready to catch me again?

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and here I thought we were friends now.

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_{thanks Magna}

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Inferno wins first notable goodpost award (87)

VOTE: davesz

read my mind wrt ferno

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Does anyone know if Inferno is prone to going of on huge tangents of twisted logic regarding basically alignment neutral posting?

And if so is it in any way alignment indicative for him?

Asking for a friend ...

Page 3 illogical WIFOM meltdowns?
town indicative for inferno IME

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Hmm what an interesting rvs. Time to test out my new chainsaw.

VOTE: Elbirn

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I thought about elbirn but maybe he is just picking a fight

dave post there feels kinda lame and safe

Elbirn's vote feels like its throw at like obvtown fmpov but that's a good take.

VOTE: dave

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do you think inferno is flailing dram?

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oshit xyzzy are you town this time?

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alright my current vote is boring anyway

VOTE: Rask

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lolscummy rvs slayers gambitty reaction tests yeah

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"Look at me I'm so town"

I was just as confused when I first saw it.

Oh I can already tell this is my least favorite new buzzword

From the makers of WIFOM, your go to kitchen appliance when you just need to throw away someone's argument based on nothing, IT'S LAMIST!

Tired of players who are just too darned good at making their alignment known? Need a way to discredit would-be town leaders, but can't handle the shit storm that would come from you suggesting that 'maybe...they're TOO town"?

Well with just two quick sprays of LAMIST, you'll eradicate

stubborn grass stains

even the most obvious of obvtown, we guarantee it!*

*Warning guarantee is not actually a guarantee your results may vary

this is my new favourite post

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HitAlt can we be friends this game?

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HitAlt can we be friends this game?

If you towntell enough, then sure.
I've never had problem with you, as long as you don't kill people..
And trust me, I'll know if you do!

your secret identity intrigues me so.

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I mean there's some pretty comfortable theories about who you are. My initial theory was almost certainly wrong and I suspect people think they know who you are but are wrong.

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Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

S A M E

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then a wagon formed on Rask - I think we will find opportunistic scum in there, but I'm just popping by on my lunch break so I'll check the VC later.

hmm do you think Rask is town or being bussed?

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@Both of you, What made that post notable or good when it was nothing? Like it's really self serving for Rasko to like it so lul

Fwiw this was about when I decided Inferno was an early townread. I don't really think you're interested in why I found the post noteworthy though? Like let me know if you're after something here.

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then a wagon formed on Rask - I think we will find opportunistic scum in there, but I'm just popping by on my lunch break so I'll check the VC later.

hmm do you think Rask is town or being bussed?

Profii where was your mind at in 156 and why did you neglect to answer this?

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VOTE: Flubbernugget

Wouldn't surprise me at all if {profii, inferno, gustavo} is all-town. Last two have tunnely playstyles but yeah that's NAI. Still suspect skygazer but this is good too.

Also brassherald is town.

why is profii town?
any strong reason why Gustavo is town?

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Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Refer to post 236. Classic example. You make wordy posts to appear like you are doing something but when I reach the end I don’t see you actually doing anything

Use post tags, it's really not that hard.

For me it is. So I’d appreciate if you just accept that going forward. Thank you

I did say in the post that I would analyse the wagon later. I see the vote count but it felt like there was other voters who may have moved. If not I’d be looking at those 3 currently voting for the scummiest but I haven’t had a chance to iso properly yet

So that is my analysis so far - scum likely to use this scenario to wagon Rask opportunistically - further analysis on specific voters to follow and my first serious vote to be placed

I think that constitutes something nearer analysis than info and I’d point out I’ve already said everything there but thanks for the feedback

i guess this is something like an answer to my original question. if you're struggling to analyse the Rask wagon let me know, maybe we can talk about it in real time?

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Ok so now we have Rask content... easily town

I kinda assume this will inform your analysis (coming soon to a cinema/thread near me)?

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pretty sure we have two obvscum already. I'm intentionally withholding my vote until I'm satisfied with a couple of things

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Ay Andrius

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Ausuka could you throw me some thoughts in particular which you think are unlikely to come from scum!profii? I'll use you to sort out my read on him if you don't mind



profii I await your assessment of the Rask!wagon and responses to my questions with bated breath :3

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dats a surname

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I didn't interact with Gus for a few (hopefully obvious) reasons. Andrius is a very welcome edition.

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#anaesthesiaposting

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out of sheer respect for Pine and excitement to be part of a fantastic list I am forcing my fluffposting down a LOT.

but if you feel like you need more from me lmk.

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can you teach me how to meta well?

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That is super spicy tyvm.

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what if I told you brass is town?

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Ok brass can be town today. I think i was getting him confused with someone else when I did that list.

brass has a very transparent scumtell in my experience. obviously not gonna mason level locktown him this early on, like its a read I'll evaluate, but he does make his alignment known to an extent.

I have a very similar core scumtell if anyone wants to think about it deeper

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I thought I had another sentence in that post. Crap.

Brass also has good instincts and is a good team player as town so fmpov it's worth treating him as town until he scumtells

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@MoI re 244 -- your Flubber case seems to rest on a single post, am I reading that right?

Yes. My "case" (which really isn't a case but an observation of an actual scummy post in the first 24 hours of the game) rests on that post.

Do you have an issue with that?

Also why are you still voting brass which was an RVS vote?

I might have an issue with it or might not. It would depend on whether I agree it's scummy, coming from Flubber, or at least see a reason that you might.

Some people move their votes around a lot, other people don't.

Dave aren't you focusing on clearly communicating where you're at? because this post does literally none of that.

How are you viewing Flubber and Brass right now?

pedit: NINJA DAVE
still curious abt brass read tho

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would you be satisfied with your response in 459? also what's your experience playing with brass & would you agree with my assertion that he's very obvtown as town?

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Fwiw (abandoning my shady sorting methods for one moment) I have skygazer as most obvscum itt

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haven't read into the scumteam call-out and may not tonight but can definitely get in on this Sky wagon.

VOTE: SkyGazer

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anyway hey guess what: the skywagon is bad

just about to catch up and caught this
why/

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it feels very much like most of the people on it just voted for her and then came up with post hoc justifications for their votes. the closest anyone has really come to offering a justification is either "I think this exact group of people are all scum together and this is the one from the group I want to lynch first," "her posts are all fluff and no content," and "she did something I didn't like on page 5." the first reason is just ridiculous because we're not to a stage in the game where working out the entire scum team is possible, the second I just don't agree with, and the third was irrelevant by the time the wagon actually happened.

I like this

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VOTE: Flubber pretty comfortable here

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reckon you could vaguely tier your townreads for me? or is that like, a townbloc?

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@Taly/Hit--both of you guys can fairly capably read me (and MoI may or may not be able to literally look into my soul). I'm chilling this phase a little in the spirit of the game as I'm normally the bloke with the same postcount as half the rest of the thread put together at this point.

my playstyle doesn't lend itself well to short coherent synthesised posts so it's something I need to force. the number of players in this phase doesn't make that easy yet.

bear with me if you don't mind. if you start panicking I'm happy to spew myself in my usual fashion but I don't think that's healthy to the current gamestate (and activity premise )

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Reminder to everyone – I end up dead tomorrow morning this should absolutely be one the first stops on your “Let’s talk to those most likely to kill MoI”. After Echo Bay I think scum theworst becomes obvious to me by Day 2 “worst” case (ha, I kill me).

believe me after our brief history, if you flip tonight I'll be the first one bringing it up tomorrow.

(also please don't kill you that would be tragic)

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@Taly/Hit--both of you guys can fairly capably read me (and MoI may or may not be able to literally look into my soul). I'm chilling this phase a little in the spirit of the game as I'm normally the bloke with the same postcount as half the rest of the thread put together at this point.

my playstyle doesn't lend itself well to short coherent synthesised posts so it's something I need to force. the number of players in this phase doesn't make that easy yet.

are there people you're not willing to engage with or are you observing rn? I've seen you with more posts in games of this size

re-read full post for context pls.

yes this is deliberate.

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I'd love to take a more humorous attitude towards this game, but that is out of my MafiaScum-range..heh.
I tried to joke with that duck one time in sitechat and it was devastatingly sub-par.

hey I liked it

seconded tho Hit is like a 50% Elli-level bad d1 lynch

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Yeah … no. Hidden alts by nature get absolutely no benefit of the doubt regarding whether they should get a Day 1 pass even if they are acting scummy. Hell I would argue no players should frankly but that’s neither here not there to this particular discussion.

Why would you even float this ducking?

Hit has good reads and recently pwnt scum!me, he's someone I'm interested in keeping around unless I'm actually actively scumreading him.

which right now I'm not

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BTW Profii always sounds scummy early on which is why I've found it very productive to torment him early game and see if he spews himself.

he's been evasive here but otherwise fairly coherent? either his scumgames improved or he's town, putting it at like ~65% likely atm

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Hit, what do you make of the fact Sky is green af?

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Hit, what do you make of the fact Sky is green af?

They new?
Wet behind the ears?

Might

explain being lynchbaity, but doesn't give a free pass for anything/everything.

Or are you trying to tell me you have a solid townread on them?

Nah just a Hanlon's razor moment. a lot of their sketchy elusive posting can easily be attributed to greenness and discomfort before scumminess.

I suspect they're not really leaving the lynchpool unless they go bleeding heart town though.

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potentially later yeah
like last time I played with him he was just super obviously town and didn't seem to give a damn how he was perceived, he doesn't feel close to the same here

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am I missing something or is the reason for the HitAlt wagon basically tonal pants on head stuff?

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@TW: find one hard stance he's taken besides the stance that lynching him is trolling.

why should I?

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am I missing something or is the reason for the HitAlt wagon basically tonal pants on head stuff?

It was a reply to that. You don't have to since there is none.

point?

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HWS after our last game how are you voting HitAlt here? Like scum!me literally outlived town!Hit in a perfect scum loss because he deathtunneled me and full derped on gamestate.

He actually feels markedly less scummy here than in sharing is caring? and I was scum that game?

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I don't even think I'm pocketed here. The issue w him is literally playstyle o.0

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evidently, that's why I asked

can you elaborate a little on what you find the notable differences to be? The only difference I see is he's less tunnelled lol

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fair. I might be slightly more attuned to his tone since I was actively trying to get town to lynch him there.

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@TW: Why are you defending Hit? He’s become more and more flaily the longer pressure has been applied. Doesn’t that at least trike you as somewhat scum?

maybe I just feel the same way as he does so don't really find his posts particularly flaily. Hmm. still doesn't feel like scum.

TW steadily gainin scumpoints

*scrolls up*
*scrolls down*
no spoiler, a useless shade throw post
naic :3

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Flubber yelling at Taly for asking him questions does not feel towny to me. his handful of reads don't feel towny to me. The fact he's been a wagon all day when he's been transparently scummy is not mislynch indicative. I'm so confused.

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K so TW+HA is pretty much locked and flubs is essentially conftown.
Progress

have you played mafia before or

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Hardly, since there's no associative leading to Taly-scum.
Keep trying tho!

@TW: It's that game with the snakes and ladders right?

Yus you got it

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hi guys

is flubber still obvscum?

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"seizure-yellow" is my hair colour tyvm

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can someone gimme a quick synopsis of why xyzzy flashwagon?

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I don't quite get the same feel here, could you explain?

just spotted this. I don't get what you don't get.
literally explained everything in my mind in that comment.

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I don't really like either of the leading wagons.
still seen nothing from Flubz I like

flashwagoning me today is an awful move ftr but any suggestions on what to do here?

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VOTE: dram

decided

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huh profii is probably town that's a relief
will xyzzy at deadline if necessary but eh

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Not even a little.
I just thought it was funny and it was something I could've said myself as well!

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we aren't. I'm done now :>

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TW

whats your read on me?

you smell towny
but you've produced nothing strongly readable yet

so default d1 Taly read, "town or deepwolf"

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Wasn't this game advertised as mild role madness? I can see a prime number modifier being used for balance purposes or something.

According to wikipedia, 1 is not prime. I majored in music.

possible new favorite person onsite

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Dram's claim seems to me like just away to turn off the increasing wagon on him. He wasn't even in hammer range yet, but he acts so worried about it.
Plus there's the fact that his claim conveniently cannot be checked N1 and the fact that JK is a reasonable role for both scum and town.
and then the fact that the entire post feels defensive.


Moi is a gut read that I really want to go relook at. There's something about his early posting that's been rubbing me the wrong way. But like with Elbirn early on, it could just be me.

this is mild role madness y u no wanna lynch scumfucks who claim PRs?

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y u ppl no wanna**

also scumpoops** sorry pinecone

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Dude, she's in another room. And asleep.

Also she's not yet two months old. Say what the fuck you want.

QUIETLY.

*whispers* fuckshitfuck

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that is a great scum fakeclaim tho
like better than it is tpr

whatever I'll sheep onto Flubz>>>>xyzzy closer to deadline if necessary

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do we trust Andrius' read on dram? because Flubz is a rad lynch if we can't get dram. still. anyone who unvoted dram exclusively for the roleclaim should feel mighty silly

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I'm yet to experience a situation where confidence has let me down. let's sheep Andrius.

BTW you seem very considered and careful this game chickadee

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I'm yet to experience a situation where confidence has let me down. let's sheep Andrius.

BTW you seem very considered and careful this game chickadee

I'm really ok with sheeping Andrius



And I'm not sure what you mean with that comment.

just a general comment, you're coming across as very reflective this game (more so than usual) :>

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Yea, Chick has been surfing this whole game.

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myloninja is also terrible at surfing

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normal CAN be role madness and this was advertised as like.. ~mechanically interesting~ and basically lite role madness

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iirc normal only needs at least 1 vt lel

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believe all claims

lynch scummy players regardless of claims or town loses

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what's your take on andrius' hard town metaread on dram?

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***I don't like that Flubb only posts when he's being suspected and that warrants MY revote because he's the least present person with a wagon that several people are tip-toeing saying they'd jump on but aren't doing jackshit atm.
Short Answer: I'll likely revote this.

*fist bump*

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taly my man we're gonna have PRs coming outta our ass this game
if i eat the NK please don't be chicken shit about lynching claimed PRs going forward

i'm valuing andrius' hard meta read a lot more than a roleclaim there

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yeah ok that's reasonable. I'm not a mechanics wizard.

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I've literally coasted scumgames before off the back of a good PR claim. leaving scumfucks alive exclusively for their fakeclaims is the pro scum behaviour here dude and I will stand by that.

but yeah Taly is my personal reality check, lynching a claimed jailer d1 is not a good idea even if they are fairly scummy.

UNVOTE: as I seem to have failed to do this earlier


pedit: settle down

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VOTE: Flubz
L-1

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I'm almost certainly townreading profii here yeah. first time for everything I guess. still no scum between the two of us

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Yea, Chick has been surfing this whole game.

Myloninja's not in this game.

Just in case anyone had any lingering curiosity

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Hit if you're actually scum here I'm gonna be shook af you'd better town tell from here on

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hi

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Yo, duck, welcome back to the town block!

VOTE: Taly

thank u naic to be her

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And I also got a mysteriously-wrapped BANANA last night so whoever gave me that thanks for my daily supply of Potassium and Vitamin... whatever bananas give you.

magnesium and B6 prolly

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@Taly we should jam when you're around

I think your scumread on me is pretty bad and I think you know it too, there's just not a lot of other reads to arrive at with me atm.

pedit: uuuhhhhhhh no
imo dram was obvscum so I was kinda just proceeding on that basis yday

getting off his wagon was literally because you and MoI strongarmed me for mechanical reasons. which were probably reasonable but still didn't change my reads.

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Hey Duck

- you satisfied with how your night went?
Did you receive a message of any kind?

I was a little lonely last night : ( and no I didn't receive any messages

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dramonic - Inferno390, Taly, the worst, HitAlt, HeWhoSwims
HitAlt - Andrius, Skygazer, dramonic, xyzzy, Flubbernugget, Raskolnikov

feel like the dram wagon is full of town + there is probably going to be more than just dram for scum on Hitalt? so one or more of {andrius, skygazer, xyzzy}

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VOTE: The Worst
Other than me, TW is the one that was really against the Dram wagon, and has kinda played off his fluff posting as "not wanting to clog the game thread." It kind of feels like hiding behind the chill nature of the game.

Chicka Ily but did you actually read d1? o.0

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Chickadee is town we can move on now.

pedit: Ausuka, she's town.

^^^^ seconded

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Townbloc

Taly
Chickadee
HitAlt
Inferno390
Raskolnikov
Ausuka

.

this is a good townbloc +brass

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OK

Brass

is in townbloc

Yay

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Bananas are good for you, even if I don't like them.

plugging the banana agenda?!?! Pine for best mod evah

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You can have the banana I got if you want, it's still gift wrapped.

me?

.........rask I think I love you

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Hey Duck

- you satisfied with how your night went?
Did you receive a message of any kind?

I was a little lonely last night : ( and no I didn't receive any messages

Assume I'm capable of doing the tango with the lingo.
And know that I'm not satisfied with your answer here, so...care to elaborate a bit more on how your night really was?

goodness Hit~
what I get up to in the confines of my own bedroom is entirely my business.

are we really going down this path? because I greatly value my privacy.

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dw Hit that's not an easy message to ignore.

@rask I'd say "buy me dinner first" but I guess its all the same thing.

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We go down the path.

claim for me then

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oh I meant if you know what I did last night you can already guess what I'm gonna claim

obv you shouldn't full claim unless it's required to out a guilty

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don't worry Rasky this is how HitAlt and I work together : ] we have a sketchy past

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Also I have a couple of reasons to believe Taly is town

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@Hit I'm waiting on you here. :>

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oh I meant if you know what I did last night you can already guess what I'm gonna claim

..but your initial answer to me doesn't match that.

read my responses to you really carefully
if you want to go down this path it's 100% up to you but it's not my preference.

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Townbloc

Taly
Chickadee
HitAlt
Inferno390
Raskolnikov
Ausuka

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this is a good townbloc +brass

it's full of people I townread

for the sake of the exercise elaborate on Chickadee and Inferno390

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read my responses to you really carefully
if you want to go down this path it's 100% up to you but it's not my preference.

OK, I'm willing to take the blame then as I can't see what you might have hinted at there.

NO MORE HINTING (or hidden meanings):

I'm proposing that you did nothing last night, is that assumption correct?

OMG THE WIFOM IN RESPONDING TO THIS POST
are you asking this last question because you love me and respect me?

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no you're not. I did not do nothing last night

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no you're not. I did not do nothing last night

I would assume the double negative is intentional?

I would not not assume that

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Deleted, wrong thread

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1949 wrong thread obv

Idk how I did that

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I did not do nothing last night

So you did what you wanted to do then? No problems?

yup. :> Hbu?

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By the way I might need a reason why you decided to forcefully out me as a PR.

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Bear with me

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THIS

I was a little lonely last night : ( and no I didn't receive any messages

..contradicts THE BOLDED in

I did not do nothing last night

So you did what you wanted to do then?

No problems?

yup. :> Hbu?

Your move.

OH FUCK I THOUGHT YOU WERE HINTING AT A COMMUNICATIVE ACTION LIKE THE BANANA THING LOL

ye I got a confirming pm

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I'm down tbh

But ye hit check my ISO and you know what's up automatically

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nup dun wanna

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Hit what do you think happened last night? because I did not target you

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no one should vote with this until we're done discreetly talking at each other btw

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Hit don't leave

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you could have conceivably gotten incorrect soft guilties on me as I have a night action but there's literally no incorrect soft guilty I can think of which should make you think I'm scum who tried to kill you last night

that's just not correct

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and no I didn't get major TPR pings from you d1. your play was basically exactly what I would have expected from HitAlt without a d1 meta guilty so...... ?_?

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oh I have a bad feeling

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Me too friend
me too

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Btw I think someone probably has an inno on me

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do I do much for no reason? :3

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I think I understand what's been going on here, unfortunately that means it's all a red herring though.

can you throw us a bone?

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We
used to be
just like twins
so in sync

(@hitalt)

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yeah I'm down

VOTE: xyzzy

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I'm open to Andy but wanna see a case

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But why is it glad wrapped?

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to keep it fresh I guess. huh.

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all flavour must be public iirc?
unless you mean to preserve the flavour of the banana

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I feel like shitposting about the flavour of a fruit vendor might be a bad idea. I'm gonna lurk again until more people post. :>

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NICE MOI

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@@@Anyone Does TW deserve benefit of the doubt here?

yes

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TW why do you townread taly you said you had reasons.

thought I replied sorry.
I'll comment on this later this phase

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it's not a super strong read btw just a couple of little things

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profii is above my null line but I've accidentally townbinned him after an initial gut scumread before so I have him down to go back to

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think all teh scumz are in
{Elbirn, Skygazer, xyzzy, HWS}
could be wrong on Inferno or Hit ig

Hit's """guilty'"" on me was terrible

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had MoI and Andy down to look into as well
which is like so so convenient

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I actually could be wrong on brass. I need to revisit him later this phase (moar content)


pedit: SK is awful honestly

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outliving like 40 other people is shitttt

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I actually could be wrong on brass. I need to revisit him later this phase (moar content)

I'd rather you do this now since you're already withholding some other thoughts.

Taly please take a moment to consider how little sense this request makes

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fmpov venge optimal play is same as vig optimal play
shoot through the bottom of the lynchpool

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simple flowchart for reading chickadee

Q: would chickadee do that as town?
A: maybe
=> Chickadee is a player in this game

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dramferno390 SvS?
my feel is..... no

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Do you really think MoI would hardclaim an inno on scumpartner andrius here

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after chainsaw defending scumbuddy dram d1 lel

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Loyal actions only work if used on someone of the same alignment

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the fact both of them came forth and claimed to receive fruit independently is p cool

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and we killed the scum roleblocker bahahahaha
rektttt

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unless one of MoI or Ausuka is faking the loyal bit

isn't MoI odd night only BTW?

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Hit. I am not claiming my action from last night until necessary but all will be obvious WHEN I am night killed. Full claim or settle down because rn you sound like scum who did see my night action and is faking a soft guilty to get a lynch thru.

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outliving like 40 other people is shitttt

<3

so much trauma fam

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I still don't even understand what you think I did.

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Hit can you please out what you think I did in plain terms? don't out your soft guilty if you don't need to, just tell me what you think happened here in 20 words or less.

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@Duck:

1. Assuming you performed an action last night - are you able to say FOR CERTAIN that your action succeeded?

2. If your answer to the above is NO - who did you target (if you can choose a target)?

3. If your answer to 1 is "NO" - do you have a weapon or not?

I'm so wasted bro you already know this I think??????

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actually I've softed the fuck outta this

Dram flip is on me, yw bitches

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@Hit what the fuck possessed you to out the vig?
Explaun your result and thought process in full.

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot that thing
which is funny bc I've had that exact role

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hold on no map it

I thought you were sitting spr rolecop guilty and trying to position me as sk which is why I was sketvhy

Then you asked for a message claim which threw me hard

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Hit if you're actually scum here I'm gonna be shook af you'd better town tell from here on

Yo, duck, welcome back to the town block!

VOTE: Taly

thank u naic to be her

@Taly we should jam when you're around

I think your scumread on me is pretty bad and I think you know it too, there's just not a lot of other reads to arrive at with me atm.

pedit: uuuhhhhhhh no
imo dram was obvscum so I was kinda just proceeding on that basis yday

getting off his wagon was literally because you and MoI strongarmed me for mechanical reasons. which were probably reasonable but still didn't change my reads.

Hey Duck

- you satisfied with how your night went?
Did you receive a message of any kind?

I was a little lonely last night : ( and no I didn't receive any messages

Hey Duck

- you satisfied with how your night went?
Did you receive a message of any kind?

I was a little lonely last night : ( and no I didn't receive any messages

Assume I'm capable of doing the tango with the lingo.
And know that I'm not satisfied with your answer here, so...care to elaborate a bit more on how your night really was?

goodness Hit~
what I get up to in the confines of my own bedroom is entirely my business.

are we really going down this path? because I greatly value my privacy.

dw Hit that's not an easy message to ignore.

@rask I'd say "buy me dinner first" but I guess its all the same thing.

^^^^^ sorting vig as hard as I'll ever soft vig (I will not soft vig or clean invest)

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XYZZY HOW DARE YOJ HAVE THE AUDACITY TO ROLL SCUM.

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hold on no map it

I thought you were sitting spr rolecop guilty and trying to position me as sk which is why I was sketvhy

Then you asked for a message claim which threw me hard

Well I obviously didn't want you to know what you were "supposed" to claim.

yes and I had zero interest in softing vig


pedit: yeah pine came back with "action received"
No I didn't get a messenger action

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What was the second guilty you were talking about?

Trying to up the pressure on him.
And making it seem like my guilty was a track/watch to maybe get him to implicate hinself further.

But like said, enough about claimtalk for now.
I'll keep my vote on TW for the rest of the day/game if need be, but I'll start ISOing other people after work anyway.

HitAlt, when you ask bizarre, vague questions without explaining yourself in an attempt to trap someone, you irrevocably taint the usefulness of any data you might be creating. your line of questioning today has been baseless and unhinged and comically aggressive, but you expect the worst to just play along with your pointless nonsense. that's unlikely to work on

anyone

regardless of meta or alignment, and trying to frame this as you having caught scum in a trap is just not remotely accurate.

Except that it made all the difference in the world to me.
Note that TW didn't only NOT hint being a vig, but he also outright fell for my trap with saying he got a PM-confirmation. Now what would that be for a Vig?

I am certain TW is scum, now we can move on with the game.
If the majority refuses to lynch him, then there isn't much I can do.
I trust in my loud buddy to keep protecting me, so I have no problems with me claiming anymore.

Now I'm gonna move on from this, and try to actually read D1 with dramonic confirmed.

yeah na

Explain your thought process in outing the vig.

It was very VERY VERY fucking obvious I wasn't interested in outing myself here and was happy vaguely dismissing your claim on the basis of "yeah I'm a killer but don't you dare talk about it"



As you promised, map your thought process. Because fmpov this has been strictly anti town and voteparking to avoid vca is only making me more convinced.

this is not how town handles a soft guilty. talk to it and work through the subtext. don't tunnel for completely awful reasons and force a needless tpr claim.

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What was the second guilty you were talking about?

Trying to up the pressure on him.
And making it seem like my guilty was a track/watch to maybe get him to implicate hinself further.

But like said, enough about claimtalk for now.
I'll keep my vote on TW for the rest of the day/game if need be, but I'll start ISOing other people after work anyway.

HitAlt, when you ask bizarre, vague questions without explaining yourself in an attempt to trap someone, you irrevocably taint the usefulness of any data you might be creating. your line of questioning today has been baseless and unhinged and comically aggressive, but you expect the worst to just play along with your pointless nonsense. that's unlikely to work on

anyone

regardless of meta or alignment, and trying to frame this as you having caught scum in a trap is just not remotely accurate.

Except that it made all the difference in the world to me.
Note that TW didn't only NOT hint being a vig, but he also outright fell for my trap with saying he got a PM-confirmation. Now what would that be for a Vig?

I am certain TW is scum, now we can move on with the game.
If the majority refuses to lynch him, then there isn't much I can do.
I trust in my loud buddy to keep protecting me, so I have no problems with me claiming anymore.

Now I'm gonna move on from this, and try to actually read D1 with dramonic confirmed.

yeah na

Explain your thought process in outing the vig.

It was very VERY VERY fucking obvious I wasn't interested in outing myself here and was happy vaguely dismissing your claim on the basis of "yeah I'm a killer but don't you dare talk about it"



As you promised, map your thought process. Because fmpov this has been strictly anti town and voteparking to avoid vca is only making me more convinced.

this is not how town handles a soft guilty. talk to it and work through the subtext. don't tunnel for completely awful reasons and force a needless tpr claim.

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until HitAlt satisfactory explains what was going through his fucking head he's the d2 lynch

he knows I was behind the dram shot here. It was blatantly obvious and he's not stupid.

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Andrius the last few pages phew oh boy
pants on head is a trending fashion in 2018 I guess?

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Chick/tw did you guys have modifiers? So many roles have and perhaps it's good to have yours too if you have them.

my modifier is

Spoiler:

pew pew motherfuckin vigilante!!!!!!

there's no benefit in me claiming it here

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considering town power I'd say be prepared for upwards of 5 scumfucks but that's a good assessment Taly

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TW

Why is

Hit

more likely scum and/or a better lynch than

Elbirn

or

Sky

?

Also is

Hit

an alt?
If so is he

OnTheMark

?

do you not find the way he claimed a guilty in me super super gross? or

he is an alt I asked the same thing the first time

anddddd I have no reason to strongly believe he isn't
but gut says no?
but my gut has been wrong one time before

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I think I found some profound reason to scumread Hit at the bottom of a couple of bottles of wine last night but I honestly can't recall it. I'll join you here.

VOTE: Elbirn

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Funny that

Sky

continued with saying we all post too much while not even acknowledging my whole assessment post or mention a read on me, but then votes

Elbirn

But meh, what do I know.

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i wish i knew how to meta fam, wanna teach me rq?

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confession: i kinda want rask to be the king of the real world rn

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i'll do some hunting on profizzle and ferno later and just put everything i find itt

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That drawing is 99% perfect

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Spoiler:

>__> If you find yourself really bored I'd so love a cute little Sir Ducky Snugglesworth with a cape and uhh idk helmet with a feather

If the plumage can be pastel colored that would be so ideal

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TBH my first impression in the event of a dram red flip was to get shooty with Andrius

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Tho
I also had a secret SR on you Rask (obv awful shot)

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If Elbirn flips red I'm down to remove the ladder from hws' pool
retro Sims style