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What do town ank answers seem like, for the rest of us?
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noIn post 187, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: Is this a coded message? :thinking:- Dunnstral
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Oh, were you planning to lynch already?In post 193, Katsuki wrote:IF DUNNS DOESNT KICK THE VOTING OFF IN THE NEXT POST HE MIGHT AS WELL BE SCUM
THIS SHIT IS SO FKING ANTITOWN- Dunnstral
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I'll argue that there can be lots of meaningful contribution before votesIn post 202, Spiffeh wrote:Some would argue that there won’t be any meaningful contribution before votes actually count.
Also why?
Here is why I think this is a good idea:
Game starts off with nobody full on lurking - everybody is sortable, vs a day 1 lynch with slots nobody can read and everybody is ok lynching
Nobody claims their role prematurely only to get unvoted and move onto the next wagon
Some people think games move too fast, this way everyone can get their toes in the water and won't have any excuses not to do so - this ties in with the lurker thing
Town is made to pay attention to players who are lurking/active lurking on day 1
Here are arguments for this being a bad idea:
People are impatient and want to hurry the game up (I don't care)
People think there's no readable content without votes - not true, people can discuss reads, and of course when I vote the votes will be open to everyone and they can put their money where there mouth is. Momentum can still form, in a sense.
People don't want to contribute to the game on day 1/before there are flips (The rest of us do want you to contribute on day 1/before there are flips)
But tell you what, I'm not a tyranical dictator, if this proves to be wildly unpopular then I'll open up the day if 13 players type HEAL: Start the day, though I would prefer that everyone contributed- Dunnstral
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How does that counter:In post 208, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think if you don’t open up the voting soon, people are liable to get pissed off and/or bored.
Just because people get upset due to impatience, doesn't mean it's not the correct play, no?In post 203, Dunnstral wrote:Here is why I think this is a good idea:
Game starts off with nobody full on lurking - everybody is sortable, vs a day 1 lynch with slots nobody can read and everybody is ok lynching
Nobody claims their role prematurely only to get unvoted and move onto the next wagon
Some people think games move too fast, this way everyone can get their toes in the water and won't have any excuses not to do so - this ties in with the lurker thing
Town is made to pay attention to players who are lurking/active lurking on day 1
How does that counter:In post 208, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think if you don’t open up the voting soon, people are liable to get pissed off and/or bored.
I don't agree, I said I wanted everyone to contribute so there weren't people lurking we couldn't sort, what I've seen so far is a few loud voices with a ton of posts and various others that aren't really in the game yet
Do you think that if I asked you for reads, you'd be able to list everyone without putting down "this player hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on them yet"?- Dunnstral
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Do you guys not agree with what I've said?
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No you don'tIn post 241, MariaR wrote:my dunnstral read- Dunnstral
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I was totally on your side but this seems kind of scummyIn post 272, Sakura Hana wrote:VOTE: Nancy
Can we vote now? Might as well put my vote back where it was- Dunnstral
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So basically you're saying you're not going to pay attention to the game?In post 345, Ankamius wrote:Would you pay attention when someone posts an autobiography in the thread every day or two people spam scanned pictures of their butts at each other for 40 pages?- Dunnstral
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That's just PurrcocetIn post 369, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Take Purr for example, she like TBG doesn’t seem scummy but most of her posts involve acting like she was a cat, so something is definitely up with the roles.- Dunnstral
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FYI this is why I wanted to hold the deadlineIn post 472, Brian Skies wrote:However, we have 3 days left. Should we just let him get a free pass for the day because he chooses not to deliver on his promise of providing content because we just can't tell?
Now we have a hard lurker trying to coast and 3 days left
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YesIn post 527, Spiffeh wrote:Do you have any reads to share?- Dunnstral
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I was contributing and I got sakura town out of that, the mod stepped in before I could get any other readsIn post 543, Spiffeh wrote:
@TehBrawlGuy my reason for voting DunnIn post 479, Spiffeh wrote:I didn't mind the fact that he wasn't starting the voting, I have a problem with how he devoted a whole long post to how pro-town it was to make sure everyone contributed before starting the real Day and in the meantime doing nothing himself to actually contribute- Dunnstral
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Her stance at the time was pro-town and before the mod said anythingIn post 568, Spiffeh wrote:
What about Sakura's reaction to it makes you think she's town?In post 563, Dunnstral wrote:I was contributing and I got sakura town out of that, the mod stepped in before I could get any other reads- Dunnstral
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Kats is useless but so was mylo so not sure we'd lynch one but not the other
Don't know what Kokichi has done, didn't even know he was in the game
Not excited to lynch Muffin- Dunnstral
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He really can'tIn post 612, Sakura Hana wrote:Okay Kokichi can read MariaR,- Dunnstral
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Your reasons for scumreading me is bad and looks more like a scum push than a town one
"Dunn hasn't done anything but wants other people to do things" That's not scummy if it were true, which it's not
And then I'm scummy for "typing a lot of words about something" so I could "look like I was doing something"
I was literally holding the game up and explaining why, I was explaining what was up, I wasn't posting for no reason- Dunnstral
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In post 634, Brian Skies wrote:
You mean how he was explaining why he wanted to do it when you asked him 'why?'In post 564, Spiffeh wrote:It's more the amount of words he devoted to saying it that bothers me. It seemed like he needed to look like he was doing something so he decided to put a bunch of effort in explaining the pros of waiting to vote which is ultimately pretty useless and he hasn't done much since
It's not a read I'm married to he's just the player I'm most willing to vote for rn idk
Also nice dodgeIn post 635, Spiffeh wrote:guys don't let the evil people lynch me- Dunnstral
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Because I have more experience with you and I can see you thinking that what I did was scummy because it was 'different' than what you expectedIn post 655, MariaR wrote:
Why do you have Spiffy as scum but me as could be town when I basically agreed with his stance and added on to it?In post 653, Dunnstral wrote:Your reasons for scumreading me is bad and looks more like a scum push than a town one
"Dunn hasn't done anything but wants other people to do things" That's not scummy if it were true, which it's not
And then I'm scummy for "typing a lot of words about something" so I could "look like I was doing something"
I was literally holding the game up and explaining why, I was explaining what was up, I wasn't posting for no reason- Dunnstral
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It's not correct to say it wasn't something important, because it was...?In post 659, Spiffeh wrote:I mean it just seemed like an overly thoughtful explanation on something that wasn't all that important
I get why you felt the need to explain yourself, I just felt weird about the amount of effort you put into it
Sorry fam, don't really have any confident scum reads atm
Don't know what to say to me being scum for putting in effort- Dunnstral
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For me they're town town undecided tooIn post 667, MariaR wrote:
It's the 3 people I'm trying to sort the most at the moment.In post 666, Moment wrote:Town, town, undecided. Why those three in specific?- Dunnstral
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You guys want me to talk more about what I was doing with the no vote thing?
I expected pressure to be on me at first, but once it was clear I wasn't budging I expected pressure to shift to the lurkers, the option to skip past it with the heal stuff was a way to get people to take a solid stance (either opposing the plan/wanting to skip it for whatever reason or not)
Of course, lurkers could have voted to heal too but that would have perked some eyebrows and would require explanation on their part- Dunnstral
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I know the 60% is on meIn post 680, MariaR wrote:The 60% sure is on you not purr so I don't know why you're bringing that up unless you're trying to call me bad then thanks for the shade I suppose
But you then go and call purrcocet annoyingly bad and want to scumread them for their read partially based around me - like there is a lot of room for error there and it's weird to see you jumping to conclusions like that- Dunnstral
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I'm the one who controlled the vote, and I got a discussion going. I was getting engaged right there, I got shut down within 30 minutes to an hour of my post or something.In post 704, Spiffeh wrote:His explanation for that was so ridiculously incongruous with everything he had provided up to that point
And now you're all like "I'm struggling to really find anything scummy about anyone else" after bashing on what I was doing and seeing how the playerlist decided to play without my iron fist- Dunnstral
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Why not?In post 707, Spiffeh wrote:Also for the record if I were scum here none of you would know it :)- Dunnstral
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Without me there'd be no wagonIn post 714, Spiffeh wrote:It feels like you're just riding the momentum of my wagon without actually saying anything?- Dunnstral
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So am I saying stuff or noIn post 704, Spiffeh wrote:His recent stuff makes me feel slightly better- Dunnstral
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There were like 2 people voting meIn post 748, Purrcocet wrote:jellyfishing jellyfishing jellyfishing!
VOTE: Dunnstral
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Can you explain why you're using me as an excuse not to vote?In post 773, Katsuki wrote:Oh man
I'm so tempted to vote spiffeh in spite of a game from a few years back where he mislynched me but that would mean voting with wisdom and dunnstral
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...what did I do?In post 791, Katsuki wrote:
Because I think you're more than just an asshole. :]In post 787, Dunnstral wrote:
Can you explain why you're using me as an excuse not to vote?In post 773, Katsuki wrote:Oh man
I'm so tempted to vote spiffeh in spite of a game from a few years back where he mislynched me but that would mean voting with wisdom and dunnstral
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