Oh I got a few ideasIn post 37, Dunnstral wrote:Do you guys want to know why they call me suspenseful third day
VOTE: Spiffy
Oh I got a few ideasIn post 37, Dunnstral wrote:Do you guys want to know why they call me suspenseful third day
Wtf you need to be more clear about this stuff spiffy me brain tiny.In post 43, Spiffeh wrote:MariaR thank you for following directions however I would prefer if my name was not in vote format
It was mostly the ctrl+F but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't keeping a close on you.In post 54, Spiffeh wrote:If I try to lynch you it's not off of nothing you silly Ankamius you
Also Maria do you actually scum read me or are you just having fun with ruining my CTRL-F strategy
imo by this page nothing has really jumped out that made me want to comment much because it's a bunch of jokes that I'm not really apart of and I don't know how to dive into the current topics (well now I am) I do agree that from what I've seen from Ank she's the solve type but it is page 7 and I don't see much too solve at the moment. So I don't really have an issue with itIn post 174, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:When is town!Ank ever this unsolvey? Even when she’s dead wrong about something, she always has numerous deep nuanced reads and opinions about the gamestate. I would argue that she still thinks we’re in rvs but her posts don’t read like that.In post 173, projectmatt wrote:you didn't answer my question earlier. what made you vote muffin in the first place? is it just the fact that he scumread you?In post 168, Ankamius wrote:He ought to be town reading me because I'm town
I know Ank likes to be viewed as a town leader and is the first one to try to solve the game but the only opinion she’s given so far is that Muffin’s town for backing off of her? I don’t know what to make of it because I also don’t think she’d be this bad as scum either.
But OTOH, that could also be a clever gambit on her part. I know I’m not crazy about the answers she’s given to my questions.
I have an idea. It's NAIIn post 199, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:In post 195, Dunnstral wrote:Oh, were you planning to lynch already?In post 193, Katsuki wrote:IF DUNNS DOESNT KICK THE VOTING OFF IN THE NEXT POST HE MIGHT AS WELL BE SCUM
THIS SHIT IS SO FKING ANTITOWN@Dunnstral , seriously wtf are you doing holding up the game?In post 196, Dunnstral wrote:If you think I'm scum you should vote me Katsuki
This isn't what I had in mind.In post 200, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I see some people are getting rowdy so I'll lay down some terms for me starting us off: I want everyone to have meaningful contribution before votes go flying. Reasonable?
Hard disagree you can set in apathy the longer the day goes along with the fact some people might simply want to vote and pressure people I don't think it's really AI the way people are pushing for deadline. I don't really like this line of thinking mostly because I don't understand why you think it's scummy...well that's not true I do get what you're saying but I simply think you're wrong and trying to find reasons to scumread people. Although I should ask who are the people who were in your words "scummy for pushing it."In post 212, Sakura Hana wrote:I think the ppl that want to hurry up the start of the day are scum/dont care that we may end up in a deadline rush like in minuet's D1.
god blessIn post 222, FakeGod wrote:I didn't mean for the mechanic to artificially lengthen the day too long. Dunnstral, please vote within the next 24 hours or I will start the deadline anyway.
New game friend. Queen of hearts first 7 pages are prob much dif than this first 7 know what I mean? I'd most likely scumread ank if sheIn post 242, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=15892In post 234, MariaR wrote:imo by this page nothing has really jumped out that made me want to comment much because it's a bunch of jokes that I'm not really apart of and I don't know how to dive into the current topics (well now I am) I do agree that from what I've seen from Ank she's the solve type but it is page 7 and I don't see much too solve at the moment. So I don't really have an issue with itIn post 174, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:When is town!Ank ever this unsolvey? Even when she’s dead wrong about something, she always has numerous deep nuanced reads and opinions about the gamestate. I would argue that she still thinks we’re in rvs but her posts don’t read like that.In post 173, projectmatt wrote:you didn't answer my question earlier. what made you vote muffin in the first place? is it just the fact that he scumread you?In post 168, Ankamius wrote:He ought to be town reading me because I'm town
I know Ank likes to be viewed as a town leader and is the first one to try to solve the game but the only opinion she’s given so far is that Muffin’s town for backing off of her? I don’t know what to make of it because I also don’t think she’d be this bad as scum either.
But OTOH, that could also be a clever gambit on her part. I know I’m not crazy about the answers she’s given to my questions.
This is a link to Ank’s ISO in Queen of Hearts game, where she was town. 100% the converse of what we’ve seen here so far.
I sure would.In post 317, Purrcocet wrote:Nancy Drew is pretty transparent town like it almost hurts
Wouldn't you agree @MeowriaR
Oh big time dunnstral made a big long winded post holding up the deadline isn't the issue it's mostly nai the fact he made a LAMIST post was pinging me on like "look how helpful I am" but really he didn't state anything himselfIn post 479, Spiffeh wrote:I didn't mind the fact that he wasn't starting the voting, I have a problem with how he devoted a whole long post to how pro-town it was to make sure everyone contributed before starting the real Day and in the meantime doing nothing himself to actually contributeIn post 239, MariaR wrote:Hard disagree you can set in apathy the longer the day goes along with the fact some people might simply want to vote and pressure people I don't think it's really AI the way people are pushing for deadline. I don't really like this line of thinking mostly because I don't understand why you think it's scummy...well that's not true I do get what you're saying but I simply think you're wrong and trying to find reasons to scumread people. Although I should ask who are the people who were in your words "scummy for pushing it."
I don't remember you being as reckless as scum.In post 491, Sakura Hana wrote:yeah that's what i'm doing, kinda.In post 482, MariaR wrote:Sakura I still have as a scumlean but not as hard as before because I feel like she's voting anything that walks.
Dunno why that lowers your scumlean tho.
What prompted you to say thisIn post 497, Purrcocet wrote:did maria roll scum
You know what I meant hush you >_>
Why is spiffy scummyIn post 513, Purrcocet wrote:your whole posting.In post 504, MariaR wrote:What prompted you to say thisIn post 497, Purrcocet wrote:did maria roll scum
also no one on the mylo wagon is even trying to kill him
...spiffeh is really scummy
jeez
I'm saying not to lynch the lurker you voting them isn't gonna magically make them come back and by lurker you mean 3 posts with no contentIn post 521, Dunnstral wrote:Maria campaigning against my plan to get lurkers to contribute and then saying not to lynch the lurker
It's one or the other
Same for Spiffeh
Quite possibly yesPurrcocet wrote:did maria roll scum
I should've known getting content out of you would be like pulling teeth eeeeeeIn post 528, Purrcocet wrote:idk 0 town in that iso tbh but *thats just my opinion*In post 522, MariaR wrote: Why is spiffy scummy
who knows you two might be WOLF/WOLF =^_^=
I was trying to buddy Nancy yes. What's your point?In post 505, Moment wrote:And while I'm on the subject of voicing perhaps somewhat far-fetched concerns, I think MariaR may have been trying (is still trying to?) pocket Nancy Drew. I first noticed it upon my first readthrough of the thread where it seemed like much of what Maria was saying was engaging with Nancy. When I put it like that it doesn't sound so bad - especially as Ms. Drew is quite the content producer - but I think that reviewing Maria's ISO may help illustrate my point for anyone interested.
To give a few quotes to illustrate my point:I believe it was these two quotes that first caused me to realize this while reading through. Something about the singularity of the read as well as the question made it look to me like Maria had the goal of tying to get Nancy to strongly townread her; anyone who played in or has read Minuet's Trio (or, I assume, other games with Nancy) should realize that it's not much of a difficult task.In post 245, MariaR wrote:Who else are you looking at nancy
I decided not to bring this up initially in order to observe if the pattern of behavior would continue, and I think that it did with this quote:The lack of response to anything between this post and the last post in Maria's ISO "pings" me in a way that I find hard to describe. Perhaps that goes back to what I was thinking about earlier.In post 332, MariaR wrote:I sure would.In post 317, Purrcocet wrote:Nancy Drew is pretty transparent town like it almost hurts
Wouldn't you agree @MeowriaR
Any thoughts?
Oh okay thanIn post 542, Moment wrote:Well, my point was that that would make you scum
I'm town.In post 560, Purrcocet wrote:i mean ironically its closer to a town post than a scum tell or anything like that but maria flips redIn post 553, Moment wrote:By the way, just for the sake of this not getting lost to the noise: I'd really like everyone's thoughts on this.In post 535, MariaR wrote:I was trying to buddy Nancy yes. What's your point?
which means that she may not flip red?
but nothing else from her is really towny
also i know she's not really nice and she's a bully maybe that's why i scumread her
You find buddying people scummy than I understand why you're reading me like you are right now. Nothing I can really do to change that but do you scumread me for other reasons besides the buddying?In post 571, Moment wrote:Glad you understand. Are we in agreement, then?
No buddying and pocketing is 2 dif things. I was trying to buddy Nancy and get ideas off her because I townread her. If she townreads me great that's a bonus but Nancy isn't a player that town reading me or scumreading me would make me perk my brow unlike someone like maybe Dunn or KokichiIn post 583, Moment wrote:I don't think that a town player typically devotes time to getting someone else in specific to townread them instead of trying to find scum, no. I also don't think that's an unreasonable position to take.
Already answered this in a post before go look at it friend.In post 586, Purrcocet wrote:maria one sentence why do you scumread dunn
I asked one question yeah and then my thoughts got distracted you're not wrong it's up to you to believe me or not. I like to bounce ideas and ask people what they think on certain topics a lot I don't know what stopped me prob irl reasons but oh well. I'm trying to fix my meta where it's like "Oh Maria has a really good scum game but a bad town game." So I'm trying to do this whole town leader thing asking a lot of things and putting myself into convos. I think one of the other reasons I jumped to say Nancy is town is because of last game where she was obv town but people wanted to lynch her so I wanted to stop that train right away.In post 603, Moment wrote:Hm, I think that's pretty transparently false, as a look at your ISOs show. You only ever asked a single question to her: the nonspecific "Who else are you looking at", which was never followed up on. Yes, you talked to her, but in my view more of your content was about making a show of interacting with her and having a strong townread on her in order to pocket her.
Like I pointed out earlier, I think a post like this doesn't come from someone who just wants to "bounce ideas off of someone"; I think it comes from someone who wants to make a show of their read. (Especially as considering the timing between this post and the last in your ISO and the content ignored between those two posts; for someone who claims to have wanted to get ideas from her, you certainly ignored a lot of what she posted)
I was saying that I would be more interested to hear how Dunn or Kokichi read me given they have a lot of history with me so those 2 I would like to hear from at some point but Dunn normally doesn't interact with me unless he has too so I don't expect him to answer Kokichi will on his own. Purr I was like "oh you should know." a bit ago but I look back on it and he doesn't have as many games with me as I thought at least with him being town.In post 605, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:What about Kokichi? Her behaviour in Minuet is pretty similar to yours in this game in regards to me. What about her do you find suspicious?
What am I doing that's scummy? I feel like I've been pretty towny I said this before but you ignored it. Dunnstral is voting ninja to be lynched I doubt it's just for pressure I feel like that's an excuse and I'm confident I can read him correctly.In post 608, Purrcocet wrote:sure?
i think town maria would do the buddy thing but shes been behaving in a scummy manner
not sure what to feel about the other inconsistencies
like she scumreads dunn for the mylo lynch when literally everyone on that wagon has said it's a pressure vote and they're not going to lynch him so that doesn't make sense
NeverrrIn post 610, Brian Skies wrote:Take that back. This wagon is beautiful.In post 495, MariaR wrote:Also the mylongninja wagon is bad it's a 3 person lurker that will give no info regardless of the flip.
He can't read me as well as you're saying he's got me wrong a bit in the past and with the way I'm playing now I don't fully expect him to have it right I don't know how to take this comment gut is to scumread it but I suppose this would only be scummy if Sakura and Kokichi were partners and looking at early game that doesn't seem to be the case. Although I do feel like you've played enough with me that you should get some sort of read on me new playstyle or notIn post 612, Sakura Hana wrote:I totally forgot that Kokichi was in this game LOL.In post 608, Purrcocet wrote:kokichi
Okay Kokichi can read MariaR, so im not worried about that anymore.
The reason I disappear is that I do other things while I post and sometimes forget about the game. Dunn can vouch for me on this I do agree that I could've asked Nancy more but my day really wasn't the best and mafia was the last thing on my mind. I do think you're towny because I can fully understand where you're coming from. Can you go into more detail on your Nos scumread? Would you lynch Spiffy here?In post 618, Moment wrote:It's not so muchIn post 615, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Well Purr directly asked this question to Maria.justthe answering of the question that I'm trying to highlight; it's the fact that, 100+ posts (as far as I remember) after her last post in the thread,thatwas what Maria responded to before disappearing again. Not only is it suspicious in itself with regards to pocketing, but it's entirey inconsistent with a supposed desire to "bounce ideas off of" you; after all, Maria skipped plenty of posts you made she could've responded to in order to respond to a postaboutyou.
And, all that being said, I think this is where I'll leave my vote for now, while still keeping an eye on Nosferatu.
VOTE: MariaR
From Purr? No I feel myself as obv town but obv given the crowd appeal a few people find me very scummy.In post 636, Brian Skies wrote:Isn't this a scumtell for you?In post 566, MariaR wrote:This posting style is exhausting. Purr I really don't get why you're scumreading me of all people I feel I've been pretty transparently town.
Have we played a game where you were town in that I was on Maki? I don't remember you were scum in mylo scum in a large uhhh what other games are there? If you can find some lmk but I can't remember and I'll go look at the game you link it'd be helpfulIn post 640, Sakura Hana wrote:Wait whatIn post 637, MariaR wrote:Pedit2: I said that as scum and it was an outright lie Sakura I don't really believe you when you've said you read me as always scummy because I think the only game we've played areeee a gif game you ragequit out of. The cabd game and nothing else? (that you were town in)
And what about all the games you were Maki and i was Kaede
Alright. How do you feel about Purr Sakura and Brain?In post 641, Moment wrote:Most likely not; I don't think I really recall any reasons for him being scum outside of Spiffy pointing out his apparent hypocrisy, which I don't think would be a reliable scumtell.In post 637, MariaR wrote:Pedit: Would you join a Dunnstral wagon Moment? I'm pretty confident on that atm prob 60% Why is the Nos wagon a thing too like I joined that to save Spiffy but I don't know what the whole thing for him is being scum.
Mmm that's fine. Do you knowIn post 649, Sakura Hana wrote:Maybe im getting my games mixed up.
I spectated the bastard VN upick game you were in, but i wasnt in that one anyway.
Why do you have Spiffy as scum but me as could be town when I basically agreed with his stance and added on to it?In post 653, Dunnstral wrote:Your reasons for scumreading me is bad and looks more like a scum push than a town one
"Dunn hasn't done anything but wants other people to do things" That's not scummy if it were true, which it's not
And then I'm scummy for "typing a lot of words about something" so I could "look like I was doing something"
I was literally holding the game up and explaining why, I was explaining what was up, I wasn't posting for no reason
Why does a scum double voter not make sense to you? I'm pushing dunn for his play not his role I already disagreed with you on the deadline stuff so I get that. I don't feel like I've sorted you by interactions at all though I've looked at your posts and tried to determine if there towny or scummy.In post 658, Sakura Hana wrote:Because i feel like dunn's role makes no sense as a scum oriented role and you're pushing it real hard, I also had entirely the opposite opinion of Dunn wanting to help out by artificially extending the deadline, I thought it was towny. I think your stance on Nancy is quite easy, and I feel you are trying to sort me by looking at my interactions with other people instead of directly enganging me, which feels kind of unusual.In post 651, MariaR wrote:Mmm that's fine. Do you know why you read me as scummy for this game at least?
It's the 3 people I'm trying to sort the most at the moment.In post 666, Moment wrote:Town, town, undecided. Why those three in specific?
nooooooooIn post 670, Moment wrote:For the record, I'm coming more around to town Dunnstral and back around to scum Spiffeh.
But I'm the only one allowed to do that...In post 678, Brian Skies wrote:I'm purposefully ignoring it.In post 650, MariaR wrote:Brain are you purposely dodging my question or did you miss it for the 2nd time now.
I didn't say this at all? I said Purr was annoyingly bad because trying to get answers out of him feels like trying to pull teeth nothing to do with you so I don't know where you're getting that from. What room for error are you talking about? Purr?In post 686, Dunnstral wrote:I know the 60% is on meIn post 680, MariaR wrote:The 60% sure is on you not purr so I don't know why you're bringing that up unless you're trying to call me bad then thanks for the shade I suppose
But you then go and call purrcocet annoyingly bad and want to scumread them for their read partially based around me - like there is a lot of room for error there and it's weird to see you jumping to conclusions like that
actually post content and try to lead the whole thing instead of trying to play ringleader while doing nothing yourself.In post 691, Dunnstral wrote:Hey Spiffeh/MariaR, since you guys think I'm scum for reasons revolving around the vote thing, what would you have expected me to do with it as town?
That's fine and I think he's scum. I have the most experience with him out of anyone here and I'm way more confident in my ability to read Dunnstral than anyone here. Now I've tried to explain why Dunn is scum and I can do it again if you want but I'm not gonna kick and scream like I did before.In post 693, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Dunn sounds villagery to me and I’m not liking your strong push on him.In post 663, MariaR wrote:Why does a scum double voter not make sense to you? I'm pushing dunn for his play not his role I already disagreed with you on the deadline stuff so I get that. I don't feel like I've sorted you by interactions at all though I've looked at your posts and tried to determine if there towny or scummy.In post 658, Sakura Hana wrote:Because i feel like dunn's role makes no sense as a scum oriented role and you're pushing it real hard, I also had entirely the opposite opinion of Dunn wanting to help out by artificially extending the deadline, I thought it was towny. I think your stance on Nancy is quite easy, and I feel you are trying to sort me by looking at my interactions with other people instead of directly enganging me, which feels kind of unusual.In post 651, MariaR wrote:Mmm that's fine. Do you know why you read me as scummy for this game at least?
I was mostly confused why you were wagoning ninja if you had legit scumreads like you stated unless said scumreads were a group of people where I can understand why wagoning ninja makes sense for you but since you never said who said scum reads were I have nothing to go off ofIn post 837, Brian Skies wrote:I'm mostly curious why she had an issue with me trying to wagon Mylo (who I skimmed and thought the content looked okay, but didn't really see anything that convinced me he was town).
Nope thankfullyIn post 849, zMuffinMan wrote:is maria scum?
Says someone who thinks Happy is decentIn post 850, Purrcocet wrote:okay it makes sense the day stalled when we wagoned nos earlier because hes scum
thats what ill tell myself
not sure if she just likes voting town andzMuffinMan wrote:is maria scum?has bad taste in anime characters
+1In post 874, Kokichi Oma wrote:I've seen Nos act like this as town in a previous fakegod game, so this is disappointing.
Matt can be townIn post 891, projectmatt wrote:i dont really see why we would lynch nosferatu when they're basically completely null
I gut like this postIn post 924, Nosferatu wrote:hard to find scum when imo people are doing predominantly nai thingsIn post 845, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:So, help us find scum then. I don’t want to mislynch you but I have no idea who to vote for. But you were different in Minuet than here. Why did you Sheep Katsuki in voting me?
i dont think i was different in minuet from here d1 other than just spitting out townreads every now and again
i didnt really sheep kats
why do you think i need a reason to vote you
Brain>You>Kat>Sakura>MuffinIn post 935, Dunnstral wrote:Who would you be ok voting Maria?