TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited mod/dead thread

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hiii

I caught that you spelled out NSG with your crumb basically right before I started posting this morning Varsoon

told scumfriends to kill one of Cakez/Creature since they're the most likely to actually catch it (and Cakez was fairly obv mason from how everyone was voting/reading Irrel yesterday)

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I do think town is way more likely to win at this point though

scum needed to be actively doing SOMETHING to prevent the town from coming together on their scumreads and we really didn't

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also I couldn't have gotten the gachapon despite my self-vote for it since I was the lynch

But I was really hoping NSG would get it from tying with shoshin and then she could look town for me not knowing that there'd be a "2/3rds chance" of me not getting it and calling everyone dumb

shrug city

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does kokichi's hated ability not go away in LYLO/MYLO?

cause that with a scum dayvig is pretty sketch

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(and Cakez was fairly obv mason from how everyone was voting/reading Irrel yesterday)

shucks
bet you still didn't catch my crumbs?
but oh well

Yeah I have no idea what your crumbs were

But basically everyone else in the game except mayyybe shoshin/nos seemed suspicious of you at some point irrel (I know at least one of them mentioned it but didn't vote you at the time so it was possible for them to be mason distancing fmpov) but cakez had been pushing people away from voting you all of d1 in a way that made perfect sense for a mason to do

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Hi cakez!

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It'd be a lot harder for them to ruin town's chances if the people obv-towning weren't just me and Cakez. And they didn't have a day vig.

if oonly ya'll had lynched me day 1

inb4 RC says "oh townreading nsg was only ever a gambit I actually scumread her 100% correctly" postgame

what RC being an egotistic fucko and painting everything he did in the best possible light after the fact

he would neeeeeever

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mmm

will anyone still alive give a fuck about the game before deadline makes them

~nobody knows~

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maan it's probably not going to happen today but i'd be shocked if nsg doesn't get lynched for lurking this hard eventually

esp. if reck/skitter both survive for a bit longer

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hue

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yeah

it's not great

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i think pretty much all of town's success is going to have to come from Shoshin's gacha/costco items or someone else getting a doc/track off from fantasy costco

cause all of Shoshin/NSG/Porkens/Creature basically not trying to play the game for the last 4 real life days or so bodes pretty poorly for town otherwise

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noice

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so with several big ifs scum can win the game tomorrow

1) if scum doesn't get lynched today
2) if kokichi doesn't get lynched today
3) if the nightkill doesn't get blocked tonight (and isn't targeting kokichi)

then scum can just vote koki tomorrow and win apparently

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creature check your assumptions yo

the lylo discussion actually came up in setup design! the only role that doesn't work in lylo is Angus (which actually just triggers at a specific number of players regardless of how many mafia are alive). I'm not opposed to roles that don't function during lylo but I also don't like explicitly confirming when lylo is -- in this game I actually confirm in the rules that it's only 2 factions, but I like leaving those sorts of things at least a little ambiguous when possible. obviously 3 player lylo is almost always easy to work out as 2 town/1 mafia (and in the case of 2 factions has to be), but, like, if there are 7 players alive and no scum flips yet, I don't want the players to be 100% confident that it's lylo.

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nsg I'm rooting for you and it maybe can even convince someone but you're saying someone else is occupying the silently scummy spot of the game

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town have one more night to do wacky costco bullshit

but yeah the porkens+me bus got pulled off pretty well I think and they murdered everyone who considered poking into it seriously, and town realllyyy should have tried a little harder day 3 given that I spent the first two throwing myself at the noose to take away every PR advantage town started with

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I could see tomorrow being something like nsg vs Nos assuming shoshin dies

I would have played a lot more carefully instead of lolhammering a mason if I knew I didn't have a daykill I could pull out of my ass but I do think the combo of a hated townie+a scum daykill was too much here, even though town would I think 90+% win if they had killed off 2 scum in the first 3 days just from costco items

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the 1-shot doc seemed most useful for town from my perspective until there was only one scum left and people could just start buying trackers, if creature or anyone else had docced sircakez the night after I died town wouldn't be forced into lynching koki here or potentially autolosing tomorrow at least, and we (or at least I and I told my scumbuddies about it) knew that it was a risk targeting him given the amount of people that would get gold from my death+him being a fairly unsubtle mason partner but it still seemed worth the risk for the potential of killing off the one guy who actually cared enough about porkens shenanigans to want him dead and get a mason dead in the process

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it also really, really didn't help that town considered trying to strategize with who should get gold from my and future deaths and then didn't bother at all after porkens said he was going to stay on the wagon, including lynching a town player the next day who took up two spots on my wagon

which put basically everyone in pasta pass range but not "i can do something useful with this gold" range

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uuugh I swear if nsg can at any point look town enough to not get lynched while pushing a wagon through scum will very likely win the game

but instead she's lurking until she gets prodded again

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kokichi is like the only person in the game who wants to lynch shoshin which makes it a little weird

gemerald might get lynched if koki gets lynched today, but I could see all of shoshin and nos and skitter pushing to lynch nsg first out of whoever's left alive, and if theres just one scum alive a lot of things could go wrong for porkens

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and like

I feel like I gave more than enough cover for Porkens, and specifically bugged NSG to bring up RC's insistence of her being town because I told RC I'd lynch her if he was 100% sure on nsg being scum and that caused RC's big flip to NSG being town and me being scum

and yeah that might reinforce a Gemerald/NSG scum pairing to shoshin but then use it to lynch Nos the day after koki's lynch and win the game, you just gotta TRY and you'll probably get away with it

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Town will win
I want the graphic novel, so I BELIEVE

I've been listening to a lot more adventure zone soundtrack stuff and a few episodes since I died in-game, I wouldn't mind it

I mostly just binge-read through a bunch of the transcripts before the game started though

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i mean, rc's read is first and foremost (and probably takes precedence over everything else, honestly), but apart from that i guess i would call it more of a relative thing - that is, i feel like a lot of people are playing scummy this game, even people who i doubt are actually scum (like porkens and to a lesser extent shoshin)

what does this even meeeeeeaaaaannnnnnnnnnn just say that it's really unlikely you're scum with me b/c I was willing to lynch you nsg plz

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I don't understand how people doing jackshit like Porkens coast so long in these games

Cause my team killed everyone that didn't share the opinion that me pushing for Porkens' lynch made him more likely to be town than at least the other do-nothings of the game (Nos & Kokichi & NSG)

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wowww

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well at least NSG officially no-killing means she probably has a plan

Gemerald claiming his 1-shot doc and being tracked to skitter with no other claims would prob be real bad but I'd guess NSG will claim she used a doc too? And Shoshin thinking that Gemerald is gambiting scum isn't that unlikely in that case.

it does mean they probably have to dodge a doc with 5 people alive to win which is gonna be a little sketchy but the whole game is basically one mess after another so *shrug*

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eh

on one hand I think that saying 'scum should never have daykills' leads to them being borderline conf-town whenever someone gets a daykill which is dumb and players should actually attempt to use their brains and reads to decide whether or not a daykiller is town if they don't use it in an actively anti-town way like I did

on the other I figured with the team I had the best chance we had of winning the game was by abusing the daykill as much as possible in our favor which wound up mostly negating and punishing the one good play town did this game

still think it was definitely too much with a hated townie in the mix as well but I think it could be ok in a large game or with an explicit warning of *Fuck your expectations, roles and alignments were determined separately and then maybe slightly adjusted afterwards for balance* (which I think is what xyzzy was aiming at for the most part given that scum don't have fakeclaims), even if I think players should attempt to be competent enough to not make the dumb role->alignment assumptions they do by default in most games.

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yeah that's prob a nsg lynch then

so now porkens has to dodge two potential nights of doc shots since they decided to no-kill

tbh so many people are townreading him that I think he'll pull it off and get Gemerald and/or Nos lynched as long as he submits night actions but still uggggggh

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it'll teach you jerks to think I wouldn't try to get someone useless lynched as scum regardless of whether or not they're on my team

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where do i apply for my Mafiascum^TM limited edition cane and cafeteria pass

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BACK IN MY DAY SODAS WERE ONLY A NICKEL

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has shoshin even showed up since all the nsg crumb stuff got pointed out

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or no lynch so i can cackle quietly in the background thats fine too

i wonder if there are any gifs/animatics of the live episode with jess the beheader i can find for endgame

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scum are getting away with some hot bullshit

the spookiest halloween surprise of all

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it'll be interesting to see if porkens busses here or not

I thiink he'll just push to win since he neighborized shoshin & NSG? shoshin might be a little suspicious but I doubt enough to vote NSG if porkens says he tracked her to nobody

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this game is so slowwww

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lol scum can quickhammer

if porkens and nsg are ever online at the same time