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Welcome

MariaR

to BlazBlue Cross Tag Mafia You are

MariaR

from

The mod team

You will find your neighborhood here

Background:

You're the mod of the game who really loves strawberry shortcake and danganronpa. It's your job to mod the game and make sure it goes smoothly!

Abilities:

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Vote count

You control the power to make vote counts!
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Mod

You can't die in any way because you're the mod
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Lynches

If someone is lynched you will post there flip cause that's your job!

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Isn't it a bit unfair that the mod is aligned against us?

Oops, meant to post this in the scum pt.

Wait a second. is this multiball?

Where would you get multiball from that?

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That is some pretty hard budding there PP.

Lets start there.
VOTE: PenguinPower

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ment wrote:

I got the original one - missed RC's though.

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that was strange...

No idea why the quote did that.

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Awful lot of setup spec and little in actual hunting.

I do not get the annoy wagon? Where is the case there? This looks like another random sheep RC for no reason. Shins claim was crap but I don't see any scum reason to claim like that.

Where did PP go, called out for hard buddy on RC and just left.

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How did you know he isn't in my neighborhood?

Cause he's claimed that his hood does something else that's in contrast to your hood's claim. Tora's claim. Your claim.

That was AFTER you asked the question.

I find it interesting that you directly asked him what his hoods power was without anything that showed he was not in a hood already claimed. I also find it interesting that you would jump on this as cover and obtusely ignore the fact that said comment was after the post in question.

This right after to try and out the information about hoods because you assume scum has inside info on the hoods.

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So why did you actually claim though?

I thought BuJa hammered - due to Sakura's power - , thus ending the day early, and wanted to explain everything - how my power worked, how it could've fucked with investigative results, my final scum pool, and why I unvoted Popo ASAP - before I flipped.

That was AFTER you asked the question.

I find it interesting that you directly asked him what his hoods power was without anything that showed he was not in a hood already claimed. I also find it interesting that you would jump on this as cover and obtusely ignore the fact that said comment was after the post in question.

This right after to try and out the information about hoods because you assume scum has inside info on the hoods.

If I was scum, you realize that there are other ways than directly asking about that in the discussion thread where everyone could see, right? Like using my supposed partners, who are supposedly - according to BuJa's theory - in both of those hoods right? So, if I were scum and BuJa's theory is correct, why would I ask about this in the discussion thread?

Are you confused about what a 'slip' is?

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For the record dont vote our hood anymore. One of the people in there us being shady as hell.

If they are that shady then why are you not giving us a case here?

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Still do not like annoy - I think bej had a solid point and annoy's reaction was horrid. I think the flailing at EOD was to save his backside and it worked.

kokichi and hana seem genuine. Town for now.

@everyone on PP
why PP and not Nico or popo. They are doing the same crap even more pronounced.

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Also side note; I don't remember if I stated this but:

IF scum team aren't all in one neighborhood then there is only me + 1 other person in my neighborhood since tora was in mine before they died. I'm currently attempting to weight the possibility that there is like 1 scum in each neighborhood or something along those lines or not.

Trying to assign order to chaos is not a worthwhile. AFAIK, hood assignments like powers are always randomized.

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@everyone on PP
why PP and not Nico or popo. They are doing the same crap even more pronounced.

I can undestand why you say Nico but why Popop?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10431776

Do I really need to say more?

popo is the worst of the 3 - a few questions or comments sprinkled in here and there with no real interest in the answers. Nico (in particular) and PP might as well have a post count of 0 - they have literally said nothing at all.

I mean, wtf is this:

do we have a town leader?

Is there even a scenario where this is something a town player would ask? In what way is an answer to this supposed to help us?

VOTE: popopopopopopo

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I like how people tell me that I exhibit no attempt at game solving when in reality I’m just not showing them how I’m game solving.

It wasn’t a cheeky post btw. I’m not assuming that was a nk atm.

Considering that he is listed in the dead section on the OP, I think if he were alive that would make such a bastard mechanic - it would essentially be a lie from the MOD.

Also, 'I’m just not showing them how I’m game solving' is a bullshit cop out. How about some reads. You cant avoid making a single post of value all game and claim that you are actually trying to solve the game.

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Isn't town more likely to have bad logic?

weird that this is the angle you're going for instead of saying your logic isn't bad

popo is the worst of the 3 - a few questions or comments sprinkled in here and there with no real interest in the answers. Nico (in particular) and PP might as well have a post count of 0 - they have literally said nothing at all.

I mean, you really haven't done anything either

I have a low post count but they have content. Same with you, there is a low post count there but at least there is some content there.

There is ZERO content from all 3 of those slots. None whatsoever.

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@everyone on PP
why PP and not Nico or popo. They are doing the same crap even more pronounced.

I can undestand why you say Nico but why Popop?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10431776

Do I really need to say more?

popo is the worst of the 3 - a few questions or comments sprinkled in here and there with no real interest in the answers. Nico (in particular) and PP might as well have a post count of 0 - they have literally said nothing at all.

I mean, wtf is this:

do we have a town leader?

Is there even a scenario where this is something a town player would ask? In what way is an answer to this supposed to help us?

VOTE: popopopopopopo

Yes, I guess his iso is poor. But, what have you done except right now? Why not ask him his reads and such.

You 'guess.'

Read my response to Dunn. There is a difference in zero content and low post count. I did not have much time over the last few weeks but should have more from now on so I will be more active. I am asking him for content - that is why my vote is there.

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I think that's a disingenuous statement.

It's how it feels. Can you give me 3 scumreads of yours and 3 townreads of yours? With reasons?

No.

Seriously?

N/M - VOTE: PP

Do something of hang.

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Why does that make me scum?

Assuming that was to me: It makes your slot utterly useless and makes it impossible to read you.

Who has motivation to be useless in catching scum and impossible to read???

Here is a hint - it's not town. If you are going to actively post nothing then why should I not vote for you?

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Why does that make me scum?

Assuming that was to me: It makes your slot utterly useless and makes it impossible to read you.

Who has motivation to be useless in catching scum and impossible to read???

Here is a hint - it's not town. If you are going to actively post nothing then why should I not vote for you?

A critical thought. Well done.

I think you need to start reading posts and look at motivation and votes. Not rely on being spoonfed readlists that can be easily generated by either alignment.

I don't do readlists. I especially don't do readlists on command.

And I think that you need to start doing something. I would look at your motivation if I could suss any out without a single post with content. Readlists

with reasons

cannot be 'easily' generated by either alignment. You did not even provide a single read with a reason.

It is not the fact that you did not give a readlist that earned you my vote, it is the fact you flatly decided to do no reasoning at all.

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Fa_Q2 has no interest in finding scum, just in attacking people who he deems to have "no content"

not attacking people for being scummy, or scumhunting at all.

easy scum tactic to go after posters for lack of content rather than have to manufacture reasons why they are scummy.

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BS.

I specifically gave reasons as to why I singled you and PP. I have been the one advocating that we simply not just lynch a slot because of no content. You have been posting garbage and don't seem interested in anything that actually happens. PP is trying everything they can to avoid actually giving a single read on anyone except RC with any reasoning at all. If the best you can do is an OMGUS then I am definitely on the right track here. You don't even address the quote I mentioned when I voted for you.

Why did you ask if we had a leader? What was the point of that line of questioning?

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Spoiler: Every Vote That's Been Cast Today

Oh yeah

Vote: Radiant Cowbells

VOTE: RC

VOTE: RC

VOTE: RC

VOTE: penguin

VOTE: Penguin

this can have my off vote i guess

ok i'm just gonna do a thing

VOTE: PP
VOTE: Sakura Hana

always thought sakura was scum but elected to not vote her for

reasons

but it's no longer safe to misinform people as to my read on her.
thought Toranaga was scum trying to spew Sakura town via their interactions so I elected to vote him and convince Sakura I townread her instead
her hypersensitivitiy to my read on here and generally these kinds of posts plus her awkward reaction to me saying that I knew she was scum but not following it D1

so yeah

VOTE: PenguinPower

Don't like how he showed up last minute yesterday and dismissed everything into the mechanics discussion category. I'm wondering if that reply if 'what NK?' was an indicator Penguin's pulling people's legs.

Seeking replacement for Cowbells

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@everyone on PP
why PP and not Nico or popo. They are doing the same crap even more pronounced.

I can undestand why you say Nico but why Popop?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10431776

Do I really need to say more?

popo is the worst of the 3 - a few questions or comments sprinkled in here and there with no real interest in the answers. Nico (in particular) and PP might as well have a post count of 0 - they have literally said nothing at all.

I mean, wtf is this:

do we have a town leader?

Is there even a scenario where this is something a town player would ask? In what way is an answer to this supposed to help us?

VOTE: popopopopopopo

I think that's a disingenuous statement.

It's how it feels. Can you give me 3 scumreads of yours and 3 townreads of yours? With reasons?

No.

Seriously?

N/M - VOTE: PP

Do something of hang.

VOTE: Nico

Good spot for now.

VOTE: Fa_Q2

No counterwagon to Penguin suggests he could be town. Will reexamine his ISO later.

Fa_Q2 has no interest in finding scum, just in attacking people who he deems to have "no content"

not attacking people for being scummy, or scumhunting at all.

easy scum tactic to go after posters for lack of content rather than have to manufacture reasons why they are scummy.

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Speaking if which UNVOTE:

No one switched from RC to penguin. Not sure what you're reading.

Nailed it. My problem right now is that I'm not reading as close as I should be. /head desk/ Ignore me, I'm a little demotivated right now because it feels like so many people are missing.

Gonna reevaluate my Penguin theory later, but my FA_Q2 vote still stands. I had a theory that I posted in my hood that theorized about an FA post being an attempt to shift the Penguin wagon away to easier targets, but I'm throwing that one out the window because I didn't have all the facts. The only sus thing I have to say about FA right now is that he semi-jumped onto BuJa's push against me but never threw down a vote yesterday or even followed up on that today.

I did follow up on it - no one seems to be interested in you right now. I mentioned it today as well. My vote is needed elsewhere atm, but the resistance to even discuss buj's point and your utter inability to address the post in question both point to you as scum.

And what a surprise, you seem to suspect the only one that seems to scum read you - and the last one that did so was the NK.

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i wanted to know if we had a town leader

W. H. Y.

Tell me, what possible town reason can you have for identifying town PR roles.

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@FA - So lay it out to me - again - as to why I'm scum based on BuJa's observation.

Because you seem to have had foreknowledge on hood setup that was not available to the rest of us.

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FA_Q2 if you are still can you post your hood and who is in it? Anyone suspicious in your hood so far?

Me and RC. Might as well not have a hood. RC has said nothing in it and buj is dead, the third member.

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@Kokichi - Let me pull up the hood claims.

First, Sakura.

@Tora: The math fail thing was because I initially thought that the hoods were 4/4/4/5, but it turns out 3/3/3/4 make more sense.
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So now you agree with me about Buja being town >_>

In any case my hood has 4 people, which means it has a higher chance of containing 1 or 2 scum in it. I dont think scum are necessarily spread 0/1/1/1, it's possible scum are randomized, but in both cases my hood most likely contains scum than not, so since scum has this info already anyway, my hood is composed of: me, anony, dunn and moment.

Second, BuJa claimed with this stuff below:

So without saying what it is our power is most beneficial if it is used on the 4 person group and if all 4 members of the group are alive.

So while statistically your group has the highest chance of containing scum, it would serve town more to lynch there after our group's power is used and I believe my neighbors would agree.

Though the earliest we'd be able to benefit is day 3 which might be too long to wait.

I followed up with a claim as to what our hood powers do:

In our hood, we can vote for someone to become an anonymous town leader with special powers.

Popo came in with his claim 446, but he only claimed his hood members.

Then Tora came in with his claim:

@Tora - Are you going to tell us what your neighborhood can do?

did anyone else claim? I can do it and I'll accept my neighbors being mad at me and kicking my ass at night when thread is locked, since I won't even ask them

actually I should ask them in thread

@neighbors: should we claim?

After I said that other people had claimed, Tora said this:

oh damn so you guys did it

our power is... so bad if we claim it lol

Followed by this:

we're 100% voting you guys I think

do we need to claim ours? cause if we're just electing your world anyway, we're not gonna use ours

I promise it's not a vig

Here's how I came to assumption that BuJa and Tora were from different hoods. First, BuJa claimed his power was beneficial if used on our Hood. When Tora was posting, I asked him what his hood powers were - which is where BuJa and FA are making their case (pulling up BuJa's case) - and he said that that hood's power is "bad". In his reply to my question, Tora asked for permission from his Hood members and said his hoodies might be mad at him for revealing that info. I took that 'my hoodies are gonna be pissed at me' and the asking for permission as a sign Tora was in a separate hood from BuJa since he wouldn't have felt the need to ask for permission, or muse on his fellow hoodies giving him crap about it, if his supposed hood mate - BuJa - had already claimed in the thread.

Frankly I thought that was a joke. I needed the VC to know he's actually a double-voter.

But that doesn't answer my concern. I'm beginning to think you're playing dumb to shrug it off.
Tora suggested we claim faction powers. He didn't himself though until after you asked him in 609. You wouldn't ask unless you think he has a different one than mine. Because you know the members of your faction and popo declared the members of his faction, you know he's either in mine or the 4th faction. But you wouldn't need to ask if he is in mine unless you think I'd lie about it.

I don't normally believe in scumtells but damn it this sure looks like one.
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BuJa's case basically boils down to 'you used PoE and because you asked the question [if Tora is in Buja] - which wasn't even my original question - that you shouldn't have had to ask unless I lied about it'.

hmmm...

Going to have to go over this a bit more. I want to ask why you waited to now to actually post something on this but not possible now.

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what was the point of this post. ghost isnt in the game anymore.

His slot is.

I don't like the idea that buj biult a case around this, died that night, annoy simply avoided the issue, posted a BS false 'defense' when pressed, claimed I never readdressed that same case and then, finally, posts this - the first indication that there was any thought around it. Why wait this long if the reasoning is not wholly manufactured? There is a lot of over explaining here too - no reason for that.