Mini 2029: BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle Game over.

[AnonymousGhost]

Sup.

[AnonymousGhost]

VOTE: Shinori

[AnonymousGhost]

Wait a second. is this multiball?

Can I quit now if it is multi-ball?

@Mod - Can you confirm if this game is multi-ball or not?

[AnonymousGhost]

[AnonymousGhost]

Confidence, or arrogance? Either way, and on an unrelated note,

What's next? A forked tongue? >:3~

[AnonymousGhost]

I think I'm just going to wait until we get some sort of clue it's multi-ball, multiple people dead for several nights in a row for instance, otherwise I'm going to stress myself out about the multi-ball possibility.

[AnonymousGhost]

Deadass did not look at this player list until right now and its fantastic.

I think this is a town post.

Feels like scum have more incentive to look at the player list so that they can plan ahead. Plus, they already know 2 out of the 9 players in the list and maybe wouldn't feel the need to announce this sort of glee as much as a town player would.

[AnonymousGhost]

what are the odds DT saw he got a scum role pm and ragequit

Unlikely. Check the Replacement Queue. Maybe school?

[AnonymousGhost]

In the post that I voted you I literally stated I would give reasonings later.

There's as much reason to withhold your reasoning as there is to self vote. So, what's stopping you?

[AnonymousGhost]

feels like because had kokichi potentially said "I'll expand on this vot

I hate phone posting.

Can you link me to the Kokichi vote/post you're referring to here? I'm having trouble following this cause I don't know what you two are talking about.

[AnonymousGhost]

Anonymousghost, I find it strange that you haven't responded to me voting you.

Still in page 6.

So I haven't read your complete case on me yet. (psst. why do you always make the thread grow when I should be sleeping? XD)

[AnonymousGhost]

feels like because had kokichi potentially said "I'll expand on this vot

I hate phone posting.

Can you link me to the Kokichi vote/post you're referring to here? I'm having trouble following this cause I don't know what you two are talking about.

Oh wait. Nvm! I found it!

Did you get the impression that Kokichi would elaborate on his vote on you cause he posted some other reads?

[AnonymousGhost]

I would expect you to expect me to read you correctly

Not at all. We only played one game together, so I don't expect you to have a completely accurate read of me by virtue of lack of games.

Unless my memory is like 29 year old VHS tape bad, you made the Vent case based on how impossible it was for him to post all those posts in such quick succession that they had to be pretyped beforehand.

[AnonymousGhost]

The only thing I've given actual 'flak' to people about is people voting me without any proper rhyme or reasoning

And this is the pot calling the kettle black.

"I'll post my reasoning later on my town reads, but the others who've naked voted me without reason have no reason to."

[AnonymousGhost]

Top tier in One Piece.

One piece has a fair amount of top tier waifu's I think.

##Vote: Dunn

This was Random vote timing.

Since this game appears to be low content(in my eyes(at least at the moment)) I'll attempt to adjust my posting style accordingly.

More info later today, but as now my vote on Dunn is serious.

This was when my vote became serious.

So, it's past later on this explanation. If you've explained beyond where I'm at, feel free to ignore this.

UNVOTE: Shinori[/vote]

[AnonymousGhost]

Balls.

UNVOTE: Shinori

[AnonymousGhost]

I have no flavor info so someone answer this if they have:

Is there any character that would fit the them of cold, freezing, snow, snowmen etc?

Why is this relevant?

[AnonymousGhost]

@Dunn - Can you elaborate on why you didn't like the Kokicki post?

[AnonymousGhost]

@Dunn - Can you elaborate on why you didn't like the Kokicki post?

idk, I feel like kokichi has a certain style of doing things and that felt weird from him

What's his normal style then?

[AnonymousGhost]

1) There are 4 neighborhoods with 1 shot factional powers each
2) After the day is over along with any night action if any you have. please vote for what world you want to win and use their power the vote is private and you will not know what world won.

@Tora - Neighborhood mechanics are on the first page. Why do you feel the need to discuss them?

[AnonymousGhost]

Shouldn't that stuff be kept secret? How would it benefit town?

Actually now that I think about... Maybe it's reasonable to assume that scum know about who's I what neighborhood and what some of the factional powers are if they're split one into each neighborhood.

Let me sit on this some more.

[AnonymousGhost]

^ This is assuming we have 3 scum and each one is in a neighborhood.

[AnonymousGhost]

see that's why I wanna talk about this. I think there's definitely benefits in claiming the powers, I'm just not yet sure the positives surpass the negatives

knowing who's in the hood isn't really anything special so I guess we're all claiming that already.

we shouldn't speculate if it's one in which or any other combinations and we should treat the neighborhoods as NAI, but knowing what powers is in each one makes it so that we have control over those powers as a collective, while we could have e.g. a certain power in hands of a 2/3 scum hood, they kill the towny in it and run the thing wild alongside their factional powers. this is just an example. we could ofc have a 3-town hood where claiming the powers wouldn't benefit us, but the safest route seems to be claiming everything from the get go.

that's just my 2c and I can be convinced otherwise ofc.

My first thought would be - if I were to argue that we shouldn't discuss this stuff - "no, we shouldn't talk about this because we could leak info to scum."

Then I realize that the 1 scum per 3 out of the 4 neighborhoods could be a thing and they're already informed about 3 out of the 4 factional powers.

So, that's kind of a moot point since the town's the one left as the uninformed at this point if scum are spread out amongst the neighborhoods. Plus, they have day chat, so it's more than likely they've already told one another who's inside each hood and what power each hood offers.

[AnonymousGhost]

@popo - Who's in your lynch pool?

[AnonymousGhost]

@Popo - Any town reads?

[AnonymousGhost]

What do you think of any of the cases/wagons so far then?

[AnonymousGhost]

[AnonymousGhost]

If I've understood the setup correctly, we vote for factions secrelty.

Meaning townies only know 1 power. And are likely to vote for their own faction instead of voting for an unknown power.

So if there is a scum split among the neighborhoods, scum will coordinate and vote for the best power for them. While townies will likely end up with roughly even splits among the factions.

We probably should know all the powers before end of day so that we can make an informed vote.

Think the winning world wins via majority or whomever has the most votes? There's an RNG mechanic the Mod will use if there's a tie, so I'm thinking whomever has the most votes.

[AnonymousGhost]

Providing that comment about what happened overnight so hard, wasn't so hard, was it?

[AnonymousGhost]

>X3

Bright side, we didn't call each other names!

[AnonymousGhost]

for instance, there's a chance one or more hood powers are only really useful in hands of town if scum doesn't know about them.

Can you give me an example? I have a vague idea of what you're talking about.

Pedit: @Tora - We have no confirmation just yet that scum are evenly, or is perfectly since 3 isn't an even number?, amongst the hoods.

[AnonymousGhost]

For a moment, I thought that we should keep the identities of the hood mates a secret, but then I remembered if the scum are spread across 3 of the 4 hoods, they already know who's in what based on PoE.

[AnonymousGhost]

So, toss that idea out.

[AnonymousGhost]

Fair point. Thanks for explaining.

[AnonymousGhost]

I can confirm this!

[AnonymousGhost]

In our hood, we can vote for someone to become an anonymous town leader with special powers.

[AnonymousGhost]

Don't know. I asked the Mod and didn't get an answer to that question.

[AnonymousGhost]

VC 1.2

AnonymousGhost

(3)

RadiantCowbells

, popopopopopopo, Sakura Hana

PenguinPower

(2)

Dunnstral, Fa_Q2

Shinori

(1)

Moment

NicoRobin

(1)

PenguinPower

BuJaber

(1)

Kokichi Oma

Kokichi Oma

(1)

Shinori

Moment

(1)

RadiantCowbells

Toranaga

(1)

BuJaber

Not Voting

(3)

NicoRobin, Toranaga AnonymousGhost



With 13 players, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline ends in (expired on 2018-09-11 13:25:30)

Well look at that... that double vote thing RC was doing wasn't just an easy way to track his reads after all. That's clever.

@Tora - Only people I've played with before are RC, Sakura, Dunn, and Kokichi.

[AnonymousGhost]

Check the VC. See how RC's listed as voting for myself and Moment. That's what I'm referring to.

[AnonymousGhost]

Town: Kokichi, Shinori, BuJa, Tora, RC
Null: Nico, FA, Dunn, Moment, Popo
Scum: Sakura, PP

VOTE: Sakura Hana

I think this portion of your read:

My reason is:

Awful lot of setup spec and little in actual hunting.

Is bad when you consider everyone else's posting content, or in some cases, lack of content. And the fact that the second half of your read - sheep RC - is suspicious since it would allow you to shift the blame onto him if my mislynch goes through today.

Penguin's in a same boat based on sheeping RC, something he said he'd do at the start of the game.

[AnonymousGhost]

[AnonymousGhost]

You never said anything else after you voted me, so I'm left to interpret your actions and that's the conclusion that I arrived at.

[AnonymousGhost]

Shinori - His claim.
Kokichi - I don't know if he spotted Shinori's claim or not, but the point he raised against Shin - keeping an RVS vote over a scum vote - was a keen observation, hence town.
BuJu - His argument with RC surrounding the joke thing. There seems to be a lack of scum motive for pushing for something so minute, even less so when you consider he was pushing it against RC of all people.
Tora - He setup suggestion has pro-town motive IMO.
RC - Mainly effort based, but that's a low bar to pass when I consider the rest of the player list.

[AnonymousGhost]

I need some Zzzz.

@Penguin - I can guarantee to be on tomorrow, if you have any more questions or want to argue about something. G'night!

[AnonymousGhost]

because I don't think that her response to me scumreading her as town here is

I've learned - from second hand experience - that trying to fight a scum read by RC is like trying to fight a tidal wave. It's in your best interest to not do it, otherwise you're going to tire yourself out.

ATM I can't afford to mentally tire myself out cause I need all the brainpower I can get for RL stuff.

[AnonymousGhost]

or why AG would townread him for thinking it.

When people notice stuff, especially things that I haven't noticed or no one else has, I attribute that to town because I think it implies game solving/combing through the thread to find scum.

[AnonymousGhost]

penguin can be town as well now

Explain please?

[AnonymousGhost]

I'm sitting here with 0 scumreads and reading isn't helping me get anywhere

Talk to me about your town reads then.

[AnonymousGhost]

I'll say somewhat garbled and non-linear and she had a very roundabout approach to things

Accurate.

that's not what i've seen of her towngame.

And this is the part where I'm skeptical. Then again, maybe I'm thinking that you're orange - like me - when you're really an apple who has a good grasp of someone's town/scum meta on the first try.

[AnonymousGhost]

One small thing that pinged me about AG was how quickly she confirmed the blazblu world neighbors. Just feels like an easy way to look helpful. Nobody questioned sakura on it or contradicted her so why the eagerness to claim it? But nothing else seems particularly scum-indicative but I don't know her meta so meh

This feels sus.

It's a little bit of grasping at straws - what happened to the multi-ball and scum!Anon if Town!RC angle? - and a little bit of you're putting some of your eggs into the Ghost-lynch basket, but then you have this step back of 'well I don't know her meta' which I could see coming from scum looking for an excuse to justify being on a mislynch.

[AnonymousGhost]

Mmm. If you say so.

[AnonymousGhost]

Why would I have messaged you in the first place about hydraing if I hadn't read other games by you?

I don't know.

Pedit:

But that's just it. A piece of my meta.

The key word in your sentence is 'generally', which is another way of saying 'most cases'. This just so happens to be a case where you're wrong.

No, you're not scum. Like I stated in my reads list, I think you're town, but I also think you're thinking in black and white terms; "Ghost is acting according to her town meta, thus she

must

be scum."

Well, that's a loaded question isn't it? I'm already getting scum read by yourself, Sakura, and Popo, aren't I?

If someone plays mafia, getting scum read is like playing dodge ball. You're bound to get hit with the ball at some point or another. Getting scum read for whatever reason comes with the territory of playing mafia. And like getting hit with the ball, you can either accept it or throw a temper tantrum. For me, accepting it is easier than throwing a temper tantrum.

If you're implying that I'm letting the peeps who town read me off the proverbial hook by not asking questions, then you should probably reread the bottom of Page 22 where I ask Tora to explain his Penguin read.

[AnonymousGhost]

@RC - And I explained where you're wrong.

You only know a portion of my meta and you're arriving to the conclusion that if I'm not acting town, then I must be scum. It's flawed logic.

If every person who acted like scum was scum, then we could lynch them all and score a win. Sadly, it doesn't work like that.

Pedit:

Asking me to play the game in a manner that you associate with my town meta is a basic 'damned if I do, damned if I don't' situation. If I do, then from an objective standpoint, it looks like I'm trying to appease you, which is scummy as knobs.

I disagree on the point where you're convinced that you know my town meta. Your black and white logic is bad, but I think that that's town indicative.

I worry about them, but most likely not for the reasons you think I should be worried.

[AnonymousGhost]

@Tora - Only people I've played with before are RC, Sakura, Dunn, and Kokichi.

What's your read on me besides the early townread

?? I don't understand what you're asking.

[AnonymousGhost]

0 attempt at correcting her read on me.

Likewise.

[AnonymousGhost]

Sorry. What's your read on my besides my first post which you said likely comes from town.

Based on your recent splurge of posts, my first reaction is town based on the various pokes and prods your giving to people e.g. Shinori and Tora.

[AnonymousGhost]

@Tora - Are you going to tell us what your neighborhood can do?

[AnonymousGhost]

Yeah. I claimed and BuJa claimed. Popo claimed who his neighbors are, but I can't remember if he power claimed in addition.

[AnonymousGhost]

Let me find them. One moment.

[AnonymousGhost]

im in the persona neighborhood with koikichi oma and nico robin

So without saying what it is our power is most beneficial if it is used on the 4 person group and if all 4 members of the group are alive.

So while statistically your group has the highest chance of containing scum, it would serve town more to lynch there after our group's power is used and I believe my neighbors would agree.

Though the earliest we'd be able to benefit is day 3 which might be too long to wait.

In our hood, we can vote for someone to become an anonymous town leader with special powers.

And what would happen if you target scum with it?

Don't know. I asked the Mod and didn't get an answer to that question.

The world of our hood is BlazBlue.
Mentioning this now coz i think anything that requires to target a certain hood would need to target it by world name and not by player composition.

[AnonymousGhost]

did you show RC enough personality to be accepted as a member of this town, anon?

Apparently not.

In other hood news, Sakura's threatened that the next perso to vote between either Penguin or I will die, thus ending the day. Happy times, am I right?

[AnonymousGhost]

has?

We're not told what powers the leader will receive, but I'm assuming it's multiple abilities cause power is plural.

[AnonymousGhost]

who's your hood anon? I suggest not lynching anyone in it for many reasons.

Sakura already posted it, but it's me, Sakura, Dunn, and Moment.

I'm bored, you're here, tell me why please.

[AnonymousGhost]

oh damn so you guys did it

our power is... so bad if we claim it lol

Mm.. With the knowledge of what my individual PR is, I doubt it could be much worse than that.

[AnonymousGhost]

has?

We're not told what powers the leader will receive, but I'm assuming it's multiple abilities cause power is plural.

In addition, we're not told if our 1-Shot successful made them the town leader, but they'll be notified.

[AnonymousGhost]

Got it. Thanks.

[AnonymousGhost]

Anon you stated me as an early tonread because of my post and then you strengthened your townread on me based on my recent posts.

So why did you vote for popop instead of me for leader? It's now causing me to question you.

My Popo town read is stronger than yours is.

[AnonymousGhost]

How did you know he isn't in my neighborhood?

Cause he's claimed that his hood does something else that's in contrast to your hood's claim. Tora's claim. Your claim.

[AnonymousGhost]

BuJa... If you haven't noticed, I'm not paying attention to soft claims.

I outright missed RC straight up claiming he was a double voter in 179 and only made the observation by looking at this VC.

[AnonymousGhost]

Well, that's that.

Side note:

YOU JUST ENDED THE DAY BEFORE DUNN OR MOMENT COULD'VE VOTED IN OUR HOOD.

Since only Sakura and I have voted, it could end up being a tie - if the votes lock in after that hammer just like how the lynch operate - and potentially waste our 1-shot factional ability because it hasn't been majority voted yet.

PLEASE READ THIS: If the above is in fact the case, do not vote for our hood tonight. We have no clue what happens in the event of a tie - especially because two people have voted, we don't know if all votes (hood and main thread) lock in after a hammer - so in order to NOT WASTE OUR FACTIONAL 1-SHOT

DON'T VOTE FOR OUR HOOD TONIGHT!

Pedit: You better be, cause the both of you helped hammer a town player and end the day early.

[AnonymousGhost]

Might as well explain how my role works because

even I didn't get it the first time.

I'm Hazama from Blazblue.

What an awesome fedora. why do all the bad guys get fedoras?

Remember that quip I made about a forked tongue?

Confidence, or arrogance? Either way, and on an unrelated note,

What's next? A forked tongue? >:3~

Yeah. That was a soft claim after I TvTropes'd this guy and found that he's associated with snakes. (fitting considering my avatar)

My ability is flavorfully called "Intelligence Dept." and it allows me to kick the proverbial teeth out of any investigative I target at night.

What this means is that I could "steal" their result. The kick in the teeth bit comes from the fact that that would make them receive "No Result".

Obviously, I had no plans to use it - higher chances are I hit a town investigative than scum (which I'm hoping my role implies that there are scum investigatives I could've fucked with) - until certain investigatives claimed i.e. Role Cop or a Watcher (since these two have higher utility in scum hands than town hands).

[AnonymousGhost]

PLEASE READ THIS

: If the above is in fact the case,

do not vote for our hood tonight

.

[AnonymousGhost]

Final Scum Pool: Sakura, BuJa, and Penguin

BuJa - The fact that you ended the day early (and no,

you get no room with the excuse "well I didn't see that" claim

) before people (Dunn, Moment, Shinori, FA_Q2, to name a few) could post is scummy as fuck. End of story.

[AnonymousGhost]

If you could explain why towns' EVER benefit from prematurely ending the day early - preferably before this day ends *wink wink* - that'd be swell. Thanks.

[AnonymousGhost]

I've unvoted Popo in our Hood because of what I explained earlier -

i hope to god that that unvote will count before the possible lock-in

- in the scenario where our Hood gets nominated.

[AnonymousGhost]

....

[AnonymousGhost]

In other hood news, Sakura's threatened that the next perso to vote between either Penguin or I will die

You got that backwards.

I said that whoever of you 2 got another vote would die.

[AnonymousGhost]

BuJa - You have absolutely no legs to stand on right now. Ironic that the reason you voted for me - playing dumb to shrug it off - is what you're doing right now, isn't it?

[AnonymousGhost]

Her action caused it to become a lynch.

Please explain to me town motive for keeping a secret like that? I'm scum reading Sakura. Suddenly, she says she can end the day. Yes, I'm going to warn people about it! Consider how many people haven't posted and tell me how ending the day early benefits the town.

You're basing your argument off of the fact that she can supposedly shot someone outside of her two potential victims - PP and I.

[AnonymousGhost]

....

im logging out.

i don't want to attack you as a person, but im super pissed so im logging off to prevent this from happening

[AnonymousGhost]

And i apologize if anything i said in this game made you mad.

I'm mad at the situation - well,

was

mad now that you've clarified that - where the day would've ended early before people had a chance to post. In particular our Hoodies and some of the low posters, for obvious reasons.

Also tbf i did say that i hadnt submitted anything yet.

My number one priority was posting everything before I died, nothing else mattered at that point.

[AnonymousGhost]

Well, now that that claim's out of the bag, hit me with your best shoot.

@Everyone

- I think my role implies scum investigative roles. Agree or disagree?

[AnonymousGhost]

Might as well explain how my role works because even I didn't get it the first time.

This.

Given that, if Shinori's claim is true, we have such obscure roles, I didn't want to leave you in the dark about how my role worked. No guarantee if the Mod would clarify and I didn't want to leave it to chance when I flipped.

[AnonymousGhost]

Mod would clarify

*Clarify how my role worked. Specifically the in's and out's (an investigative getting "No Result" if I targeted them) which could have caused lots of confusion e.g. town starts to think there was a scum role blocker or anything else that causes a "No Result" to happen.

[AnonymousGhost]

I didn't remember sakura's claim.

...........................

are you trying to push my buttons? cause its working

[AnonymousGhost]

VOTE: BuJaber

[AnonymousGhost]

Anon you stated me as an early tonread because of my post and then you strengthened your townread on me based on my recent posts.

So why did you vote for popop instead of me for leader? It's now causing me to question you.

My Popo town read is stronger than yours is.

How come?

I usually interpret people being unnecessarily stubborn and/or antagonist to come from town.

[AnonymousGhost]

*antagonistic

[AnonymousGhost]

How did you know he isn't in my neighborhood?

Cause he's claimed that his hood does something else that's in contrast to your hood's claim. Tora's claim. Your claim.

[AnonymousGhost]

When was he stubborn?

Page 17.

[AnonymousGhost]

If you believe that I'm town for the love of God talk to me about it

Okay then.

[AnonymousGhost]

not that anyone cares about the game anymore apparently

Holiday weekend is most likely the cause.

[AnonymousGhost]

So why did you actually claim though?

I thought BuJa hammered - due to Sakura's power - , thus ending the day early, and wanted to explain everything - how my power worked, how it could've fucked with investigative results, my final scum pool, and why I unvoted Popo ASAP - before I flipped.

That was AFTER you asked the question.

I find it interesting that you directly asked him what his hoods power was without anything that showed he was not in a hood already claimed. I also find it interesting that you would jump on this as cover and obtusely ignore the fact that said comment was after the post in question.

This right after to try and out the information about hoods because you assume scum has inside info on the hoods.

If I was scum, you realize that there are other ways than directly asking about that in the discussion thread where everyone could see, right? Like using my supposed partners, who are supposedly - according to BuJa's theory - in both of those hoods right? So, if I were scum and BuJa's theory is correct, why would I ask about this in the discussion thread?

[AnonymousGhost]

^ This is assuming we have 3 scum and each one is in a neighborhood.

Reminder to BuJa & Fa_Q2 - Remember this?

I was the one who first posted this. If I was scum, let's say BuJa's theory is on point, why would I give away how my supposed scum are spread throughout the hoods? Especially when other people (Kokichi is the only one I know of the top of my head) proposed that it's not 1 scum per hood? If I was scum, wouldn't it make more sense to latch onto that theory instead and let the town think otherwise?

Pedit: No, but it's not a slip. That's a nice straw man though, can I burn it?

[AnonymousGhost]

I am more confident that she flips scum.

Haha. Prepare to be disappointed.

[AnonymousGhost]

Do you think the mod will not tell them who became town leader?

TOU ARE CLEARLY NOT READING THE THHREAD

[AnonymousGhost]

In our hood, we can vote for someone to become an

anonymous

town leader with special powers.

[AnonymousGhost]

Conf bias makes me question how he could forget it when he literally asked me what happens if scum becomes town leader.

[AnonymousGhost]

I get that a lot.

[AnonymousGhost]

Haven't checked yet. I need to go over your scum!Tora posts in more detail and haven't had the time, or motivation, and then reevaluate from there.

[AnonymousGhost]

It's a bit of a troll move. XD

[AnonymousGhost]

@Tora - Shinori. I'm not voting there though.

@Sakura - Can we tell them?

[AnonymousGhost]

YAY!

[AnonymousGhost]

We're gonna make a tie in our hood! If there's a tie, the potential town leader gets decided via RNG.

By forcing the leader to be decided via RNG, we're reducing scum's chances of killing the town leader.

[AnonymousGhost]

Yes.

[AnonymousGhost]

Maybe.

A

elects

Z

B

elects

Y

C

elects

X

D

elects

Q

C is NK'd.

Leaves

Q

,

Y

, and

Z

to be decided via RNG.

Scum has a 1 out of 3 chance of becoming town leader. Town, obviously, has a 2 out of 3 chances of becoming leader.

Even if we have 2 scum in our hood, they have to publicly vote within our hood. No sleight of hand allowed.

So...

A

elects

Z

B

elects

Y

C

elects

X

D

elects

C

B gets NK'd.

Leaves

Z

,

X

, and

C

in the RNG pool. Scum have a higher chance of winning RNG, but not a complete guarantee.

The problem is if we lynch inside the hood, it could hit town, scum could NK within the hood, making these scenarios happen:

A

elects

Z

. A gets lynched.

B

elects

Y

. B gets NK'd.

1 Scum in Hood =

C

elects

B

.

D

elects

C

.

Result:

50

/

50

chance of either scum or town getting elected.

2 Scum in Hood =

C

elects

X

.

D

elects

C

.

Results:

100% chance of scum getting elected

.

[AnonymousGhost]

Yes.

[AnonymousGhost]

@Tora - Clarify? All I see is the probabilities of scum winning the power if a lynch and/or NK happens to the members of the hood.

@Kokichi - I asked that, but didn't receive a straight answer. I can ask again, this time rewording it differently, see if that clarifies some things.

Ties are decided via RNG, I don't think it defaults to one or the other depending on the alignment, but I can ask to make sure all our bases are covered.

[AnonymousGhost]

No answer to the 'what happens if scum is elected?' question.

Ties are decided

purely

via RNG. No defaults depending on the electoral candidates' alignments.

[AnonymousGhost]

The first is closer than the second option, but with a 'the' spruced inside.

[AnonymousGhost]

I just skimmed but is this removing the possibility of town electing scum? cause that's what it looks like.

Oh! Now I see what you meant!

No, it does not take into account the chances of the town hoodies voting for scum by accident.

[AnonymousGhost]

859 is only considering the outcomes based on the variables that scum will vote for scum and town votes for town inside the hood. The chances of scum, obviously, become higher if the town hoodies vote for scum on accident. In other, slightly more positive news, we have to publicly vote for our candidates - meaning that scum can't stack two votes against the others.

[AnonymousGhost]

Shit

Was that a hammer? Guys we haven't reached a majority in our hood!!! D:

I'm unvoting ASAP so that we can have a majority in the hood!

[AnonymousGhost]

I'm unvoting ASAP so that we can have a majority in the hood!

Um. What happened to the plan

We're scrapping it. I didn't take into account the possibility of chances that town would accidentally vote scum, increases their chances of getting town leadership powers.

We're coming up with a different plan. We'll keep you updated!

[AnonymousGhost]

i suck at mafia.

[AnonymousGhost]

Spoiler: Dead
Toranaga was lynched day 1 they were Ruby Rose
BuJaber walked away night 1 they were ???

BuJa is listed under the 'Dead' Spoiler FWIW.

[AnonymousGhost]

VOTE: PenguinPower

Don't like how he showed up last minute yesterday and dismissed everything into the mechanics discussion category. I'm wondering if that reply if 'what NK?' was an indicator Penguin's pulling people's legs.

[AnonymousGhost]

Everything posted during my absence (on a holiday weekend) was mechanics discussion...what's not to like about my commenting on that?

No attempt at game solving that's what not to like about your comment.

What does this even mean? Pulling people's legs?

I'm assuming that that was a cheeky post. Several people had the conversation surrounding BuJa on Page 40 and he's listed under the 'Dead Spoiler'.

Still do not like annoy

You just gonna talk the talk like yesterday? Or are you going to walk the walk and actually push your read with a vote?

[AnonymousGhost]

VOTE: Fa_Q2

No counterwagon to Penguin suggests he could be town. Will reexamine his ISO later.

[AnonymousGhost]

Uh? I think RC has as many votes as PP right now.

Didn't those RC votes shift to the Penguin wagon?

[AnonymousGhost]

Spoiler: Every Vote That's Been Cast Today

Oh yeah

Vote: Radiant Cowbells

VOTE: RC

VOTE: RC

VOTE: RC

VOTE: penguin

VOTE: Penguin

this can have my off vote i guess

ok i'm just gonna do a thing

VOTE: PP
VOTE: Sakura Hana

always thought sakura was scum but elected to not vote her for

reasons

but it's no longer safe to misinform people as to my read on her.
thought Toranaga was scum trying to spew Sakura town via their interactions so I elected to vote him and convince Sakura I townread her instead
her hypersensitivitiy to my read on here and generally these kinds of posts plus her awkward reaction to me saying that I knew she was scum but not following it D1

so yeah

VOTE: PenguinPower

Don't like how he showed up last minute yesterday and dismissed everything into the mechanics discussion category. I'm wondering if that reply if 'what NK?' was an indicator Penguin's pulling people's legs.

Seeking replacement for Cowbells

UNVOTE:

@everyone on PP
why PP and not Nico or popo. They are doing the same crap even more pronounced.

I can undestand why you say Nico but why Popop?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10431776

Do I really need to say more?

popo is the worst of the 3 - a few questions or comments sprinkled in here and there with no real interest in the answers. Nico (in particular) and PP might as well have a post count of 0 - they have literally said nothing at all.

I mean, wtf is this:

do we have a town leader?

Is there even a scenario where this is something a town player would ask? In what way is an answer to this supposed to help us?

VOTE: popopopopopopo

I think that's a disingenuous statement.

It's how it feels. Can you give me 3 scumreads of yours and 3 townreads of yours? With reasons?

No.

Seriously?

N/M - VOTE: PP

Do something of hang.

VOTE: Nico

Good spot for now.

VOTE: Fa_Q2

No counterwagon to Penguin suggests he could be town. Will reexamine his ISO later.

Fa_Q2 has no interest in finding scum, just in attacking people who he deems to have "no content"

not attacking people for being scummy, or scumhunting at all.

easy scum tactic to go after posters for lack of content rather than have to manufacture reasons why they are scummy.

vote:Fa_Q2

Speaking if which UNVOTE:

No one switched from RC to penguin. Not sure what you're reading.

Nailed it. My problem right now is that I'm not reading as close as I should be. /head desk/ Ignore me, I'm a little demotivated right now because it feels like so many people are missing.

Gonna reevaluate my Penguin theory later, but my FA_Q2 vote still stands. I had a theory that I posted in my hood that theorized about an FA post being an attempt to shift the Penguin wagon away to easier targets, but I'm throwing that one out the window because I didn't have all the facts. The only sus thing I have to say about FA right now is that he semi-jumped onto BuJa's push against me but never threw down a vote yesterday or even followed up on that today.

[AnonymousGhost]

your utter inability to address the post in question both point to you as scum.

And what a surprise, you seem to suspect the only one that seems to scum read you - and the last one that did so was the NK.

This is the point where I taunt you by saying I can't wait to prove you wrong.

So, what? I can't sus peeps who sus me in return?

[AnonymousGhost]

@FA - So lay it out to me - again - as to why I'm scum based on BuJa's observation.

[AnonymousGhost]

but the resistance to even discuss buj's point

Kokichi was one of the few people who actually addressed your point (see below). Please tell me who else is a part of le resistance~

She knew Tora is in a different neighborhood than mine before he claimed his faction's power.
That means she either has a scum partner in my hood or she has a partner in Tora's hood, or both.

Oh, I see what you mean. But, doesn't this mean that Tora could be scum? So how do you still townread him?

[AnonymousGhost]

BlazBlue: Sakura Hana, AnonymousGhost, Dunnstral, Moment's Slot

Pedit: You beat me to it! D:

[AnonymousGhost]

Pedit edit: @Kokichi - Nope.

[AnonymousGhost]

One of the others is RWBY which had Tora.

[AnonymousGhost]

@Kokichi - Let me pull up the hood claims.

First, Sakura.

@Tora: The math fail thing was because I initially thought that the hoods were 4/4/4/5, but it turns out 3/3/3/4 make more sense.
UNVOTE:
So now you agree with me about Buja being town >_>

In any case my hood has 4 people, which means it has a higher chance of containing 1 or 2 scum in it. I dont think scum are necessarily spread 0/1/1/1, it's possible scum are randomized, but in both cases my hood most likely contains scum than not, so since scum has this info already anyway, my hood is composed of: me, anony, dunn and moment.

Second, BuJa claimed with this stuff below:

So without saying what it is our power is most beneficial if it is used on the 4 person group and if all 4 members of the group are alive.

So while statistically your group has the highest chance of containing scum, it would serve town more to lynch there after our group's power is used and I believe my neighbors would agree.

Though the earliest we'd be able to benefit is day 3 which might be too long to wait.

I followed up with a claim as to what our hood powers do:

In our hood, we can vote for someone to become an anonymous town leader with special powers.

Popo came in with his claim 446, but he only claimed his hood members.

Then Tora came in with his claim:

@Tora - Are you going to tell us what your neighborhood can do?

did anyone else claim? I can do it and I'll accept my neighbors being mad at me and kicking my ass at night when thread is locked, since I won't even ask them

actually I should ask them in thread

@neighbors: should we claim?

After I said that other people had claimed, Tora said this:

oh damn so you guys did it

our power is... so bad if we claim it lol

Followed by this:

we're 100% voting you guys I think

do we need to claim ours? cause if we're just electing your world anyway, we're not gonna use ours

I promise it's not a vig

Here's how I came to assumption that BuJa and Tora were from different hoods. First, BuJa claimed his power was beneficial if used on our Hood. When Tora was posting, I asked him what his hood powers were - which is where BuJa and FA are making their case (pulling up BuJa's case) - and he said that that hood's power is "bad". In his reply to my question, Tora asked for permission from his Hood members and said his hoodies might be mad at him for revealing that info. I took that 'my hoodies are gonna be pissed at me' and the asking for permission as a sign Tora was in a separate hood from BuJa since he wouldn't have felt the need to ask for permission, or muse on his fellow hoodies giving him crap about it, if his supposed hood mate - BuJa - had already claimed in the thread.

Frankly I thought that was a joke. I needed the VC to know he's actually a double-voter.

But that doesn't answer my concern. I'm beginning to think you're playing dumb to shrug it off.
Tora suggested we claim faction powers. He didn't himself though until after you asked him in 609. You wouldn't ask unless you think he has a different one than mine. Because you know the members of your faction and popo declared the members of his faction, you know he's either in mine or the 4th faction. But you wouldn't need to ask if he is in mine unless you think I'd lie about it.

I don't normally believe in scumtells but damn it this sure looks like one.
VOTE: anonymous G

BuJa's case basically boils down to 'you used PoE and because you asked the question [if Tora is in Buja] - which wasn't even my original question - that you shouldn't have had to ask unless I lied about it'.

[AnonymousGhost]

@Mod - Please replace me. RL stuff is gonna get real busy very soon. I don't want either RL or this game to suffer because I can't do both.

Good luck! Have fun! Bye bye!

[AnonymousGhost]

A shame.

Thanks for hosting Maria.

[AnonymousGhost]

Seconded. And the PT too, please? :3

[AnonymousGhost]

Nice! Thanks Maria!

[AnonymousGhost]

Nice! Thanks!

[AnonymousGhost]

Aw. D:

No dead thread?

[AnonymousGhost]

:3

Thank you~