Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

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WORLD WIDE CHOPPERS

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I GOT EXCITED

VOTE: KOKICHI

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then u better lynch me right fucking now my guy cause ur scummy af

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How's he scummy?

how's water wet?

it just do.

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have u considered you can't read me?

i eat self-doubt for breakfast

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VOTE: Nosferatu

don't tell me ur one of those "water isn't wet people"

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Literally nothing hes done has been AI

personally i think my role pm is pretty ai

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I drink chocolate milk

VOTE: creature

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why is everyone townreading me

I'm not!

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Because it looks towny to defend Nos and he gets to pocket Nos a little too
Then when he was pressured about it he basically said "I did say it was dumb so just kinda stop asking me about it pls"

lol cause im the type people want to pocket

Creature's town. I will never lynch him and I will death tunnel anyone who tries. I do not want him self-destructing this game so please do not start wagoning that player, even suggesting he's scummy is bad for this game.

oops

nos is basically my only townread so far b/c saying that RC spamposting is scummy and then backing it up to people with shitposting feels a lot more likely to come from town than scum. it's possible to be just a personality-tell but annoying the spamposter of the game who seems to want to lynch everyone voting for him seems like a pretty garbage strategy to start the game with as scum.

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i dont really have one

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Why not? I have a lot of posts/content to gather a read from...

youre assuming ive even read your posts

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or moreover even want to sort you

you seem like a bother to sort

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I'm still going to Gatcha vote for Reck's slot regardless of IRL circumstances, RC.
I think it's fucked up of you to act like a slot is essentially out of game just because the player has limited access--it undermines the game a ton as well as the moderation.

that makes no sense

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rc still scum tho
VOTE: rc

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UNVOTE:

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i would comment on how annoying it is to play with people who deliver ultimatums at a moments notice but can't handle being scumread on both alignments but i know rc just doesn't care so like whatever

i was continuing a bit anyway so this doesnt matter to me to begin with

VOTE: nsg

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no

there is no hidden depth

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VOTE: rc


I can only lead to his town to victory. Rc is a proven liar. Everyone says it that I've seen. Where is his evidence? NONE!

why are you the way you are

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I kinda wanna replace out cause I joined this game specifically because I wanted to play with rc and now I had a direct hand in making him replace out and was told to not join games with him in it.

so idk makes me feel like a dick, but replacing out is also a dick move so I'm just gonna let y'all know there's a high chance I lurk til like d3 if I stay.

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VOTE: porkens

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no no stop

i promise I will start actually playing this game tomorrow.

please don't lynch me in the next 24 hours. I will read and post actual things

lmaooo

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i made the mistake of not organizing my reads into a list at the start of the game so i cant remember my reads

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this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and your chiropractor. your back is all fucked up and I'm gonna fix it!

i actually have severe scoliosis irl and im laughing so hard rn

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Sus peeps not striked out rn

i didnt tier my list at the start so i can't tier now

xRECKONERx
Gammagooey
Varsoon

skitter30

northsidegal

Kokichi Oma

Irrelephant11

RadiantCowbells

Porkens

Creature

SirCakez
Shoshin

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i don't know what ur past history is and i think that both of u are holding some sort of grudge wrt that game.

either way it's making me not super into reading this; i think u know from the newbie that i really really don't like it when people get into personal arguments

and yeah i think i kinda scumread you for your playstyle. i dont know what to do about that

i'm thinking about sheeping nsg and shoshin because they both probably aren't wrong but idk if i'm confident enough to do that

looking at it without context reck is offended that rc pointed out that reck couldnt use the hurricane as an excuse

despite the fact that rc offered to let reck use the hurricane as an excuse previously and was shot down

it doesnt seem to be a game grudge its just personal

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i do think that a hurricane is a fair reason for not posting because it's, you know, a hurricane

i mean up til recently i was primarily living in florida

and we had like 3 hurricanes while i was playing here so i feel

but u can't blow up at someone and replace out because they "make light of a natural disaster" when theyre not

its like bruh

but i mean this whole convo is done because the argument ended when reck left so...

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VOTE: varsoon

porkens is town and if we keep votes on him hes gonna do something dumb o/

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i could be swayed but there's no counterwagon id be fine switching to

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How did Porkens become townread?

he did that thing he does

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Anyone ever see RC replace out of a game as scum? I'd be willing to bet it happens a lot more often as town than scum.

he got force replaced in lynch the wolves

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VOTE: gamma

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VOTE: gamma

o theres two
UNVOTE:
VOTE: gammagoo

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yall really tried to just end his career lmao

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uhh

i am here

i have no real thoughts on the game state, I still want to lynch in my previously written non-townreads

kinda tuned out of this game in particular

it kinda got a little boring

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i have no preference outside of my townreads so ill vote whichever has the highest votes which is currently gammag

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VOTE: irrelephant

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it's ya boi

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Nosferatu also looks considerably worse w/the Irrelephant flip and his wagon positioning.

idk about that one dog

VOTE: gammagoey

yikes

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gammag is definitely scum but i will not vote in the interest of more relevant people getting gold

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townreads steadily dying

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xRECKONERx

skitter30

northsidegal

Kokichi Oma

Gamma Emerald
Porkens

Creature

Shoshin

i guess this is where i am now?

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might even cross out kokichi

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VOTE: irrelephant this wagon is disgusting but it's better than a nl i guess

VOTE: irrelephant

Both these votes are really bad.

y

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VOTE: gamma

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coool

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"i wont say who i targeted until they speak up"
"who did you target"


lmfao

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really tho?

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this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and Goofy from Kingdom Hearts. remember that scene in the second game where I just fucking died?

I cannot tell you how much I'm laughing rn

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Really tho what

was it really that poorly communicated

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Really tho what

was it really that poorly communicated

I feel like it was
Why don’t you?

how could he have worded in a way to catch u as scum while letting you know that was the purpose lol

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Also nsg is a she

wasnt really talking about nsg but thanks for the notice

i never would have guessed northsidegal identifies as a she

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Btw, resuming reading the pages before I replaced in, which I wanted to do d2 but the day got sidetracked

I'm not lynching someone just because you dislike them, but if you give me a reason to think Reck's scum, sure. I think double voter is town more often than scum, and the fact that he was checking the game as a hurricane approached when he didn't actually have to check it if he were scum makes me think he's town. Not a great reason, but slightly townier than null.

Do you think diubkevote is town vía general thinking or specific mod meta?

ive checked thread as scum while a hurricane was literally over my house so idk about this reason for a townread

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i suppose it could be said that gamma and reck probably aren't s/s.

idk about that honestly

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cause i mean i just played a game where rc bused math so hard he got force replaced just like here.
they cross voted and math didn't unvote the entire time the slot was alive.

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

i also think skitter is town, her posts are more useless as scum

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man my fave thing is where someone goes "oh two totally other people did it in this game one time therefore it's totally happening here"

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

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oh gee i think there was a bug

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oh gee i think there was a bug

Why mention this?

there was a bug on my 'v' key and i kept hitting it and it accidentally made me copy paste the same post like 20 times

i wouldnt want anyone to think i was bming

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Why would bming be a bad thing
And you need to be holding the Ctrl key for that

why would bad manners be a bath thing

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im quite literally hurt by the fact that I have to look at this

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@skitter

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yes?

u get the hammer vote

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You do realize no one has voted for the gachapon right

this is correct

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gatchapon vote:

kokichi

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Nosferatu also looks considerably worse w/the Irrelephant flip and his wagon positioning.

FALSE!

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NOS4AH2 ALWAYS LOOKS GOOD NO MATTER THE VCA

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imma be real, im voting gamma simply because he claimed fruit vendor

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imma be real, im voting gamma simply because he claimed fruit vendor

The fuck?

ignoring the fact that i voted u before u claimed ye

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Nos, why are you voting Emerald over Koki?

I just explained it to you.

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doesn't seem that townie

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cause what i said makes it better lmfao

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in all seriousness its cause people say ridiculous shit like "im voting because he claimed FV" and then you'll just fucking go "ok"

no way you flip green rofl

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Ok
I thought you had some policy against fruit vendors

thats how u shouldve responded when i told you i voted for you because you claimed fruit vendor

when i voted you before you even claimed lol

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Take my calm demeanor and shove it up your high-and-mighty ass.

LOL
PLEASE LET ME SIG THIS POST GAME

GOLDEN

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VOTE: xreck

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VOTE: xreck

mmm yeah this can die too

why are you like this

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Why arent you voting gamma anymore?

skitter wanted a wagonp
i had a vote
supply and demand

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VOTE: Reck
Been think it over and I think points 1 and 3 skitter raises are pretty valid, plus I thought of setup impact and the way Reck’s role works seems built for scum usage, specifically the exact thing point 1 brings up, the ability to raise the lynch threshold

this is such fucking horseshit, he didn't think over anything. he saw an easy time to jump and he did

why isn't GE dead yet

this is also why i switched my vote

to watch gamma switch to reck

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yawn

like i give a fuck

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this wagon on me is omegalulz

it really is

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Gamma flips scum here for sure. Skit answer my question when you can

Quote from Saturday lol

Yawn
This post came between Nos and my vote

ok since you want to call my stance "alternative facts"

what are you trying to prove by calling this out. Enlighten me.

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That if I wanted to follow you I could have done it sooner?

ok and what does this mean?

that because you had the opportunity to switch to reck, and didn't, that diminishes the fact that you did switch?

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Yeah

it doesn't.

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That if I wanted to follow you I could have done it sooner?

ok and what does this mean?

that because you had the opportunity to switch to reck, and didn't, that diminishes the fact that you did switch?

i'm actually a little confused why your'e voting reck and not gamma rn?

you asked me to

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Awful lynch

isn't it just

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Nosferatu is just openly trolling and admitting the wagon on me is dumb but staying on it anyway

imma be for real for real

i did not forsee the gamma nsg scumteam and if i was awake and saw that nsg vote i would have unvoted

~probably~ should have with the shit that rc did regarding nsg but

i was trolling pretty hard right there and your anger is ~mostly~ valid

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VOTE: gamma

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it kinda feels like he's pre-emptively apologizing for reck flipping town and being on the wagon and like setting up going after you + gamma today.

I actually did exactly this. Good job.

No sarcasm. I literally did this. I feel bad for actually being on that lynch and I'm going after nsg and gamma today.

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doesn't hold up under closer scrutiny, especially his reasons for being on the reck wagon at all and his reaction when reck called him out for it

you literally didn't put it under any scrutiny.

like i'm not sure how he's coming to a gamma/nsg scumteam really

also not sure if he cares about being on mislynches really as town? like that isn't the vibe i super got from him in gerrymandering

I'm fine mislynching town, I feel bad about making someone's experience bad through trolling and lolscumsiding

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it kinda feels like he's pre-emptively apologizing for reck flipping town and being on the wagon

and like setting up going after you + gamma today

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bolded is exactly what i was thinking

except you felt like concealing it when you put your vote down for no reason?? lmfao what?

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RC was trying to clear nsg from suspicion and deep wolf her.

nsg's behaviour behind reck wagon is wack as hell

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sorry for the inactivity. i think this is where i want to end the day

VOTE: reck

comes in no context goes "i think i wanna end the day here" and puts reck to L-1
did next to nothing previously and basically lolhammered since skitter follows up a few hours later in an equally sus manner

VOTE: reck

gamma --> nsg --> skitter/shoshin should win, shoshin has completely fallen off the earth as of late

{porkens, nos, kokichi} are the mislynch options

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you're either scum or your play is just that bad

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Nos, why are you so sure that Koki and Pork are town?

I think that porkens is town because his d1 play was what i expect from town!porkens. porkens is hella obvious as scum and he wouldve been lynched already if scum.
I think kokichi is town because he's not gamma or nsg.

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it kinda feels like he's pre-emptively apologizing for reck flipping town and being on the wagon

and like setting up going after you + gamma today

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bolded is exactly what i was thinking

except you felt like concealing it when you put your vote down for no reason?? lmfao what?

in what way was i "concealing it"? this doesn't make sense. are you referring to yesterday? if so, you made that post after i voted reck

no what??

I said that you laid out posts talking about why you thought i was scum, DIDN'T say the above, then skitter said it and then you were like "ye i was thinking that"

like lol huh???

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like, do you really think that that's what happened every time someone says "I was thinking something similar"

i didnt think u were concealing it

i think that you just saw him bring an actual point to your vagueness and then u were like "i fuck with that" but you said "i was thinking the same thing" when you really weren't

I think if you were thinking something similar, you would have said it in your post before.

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there's 10 minutes between your post and his and you're telling me you were just sitting on this thought waiting for someone else to say it before you felt like mentioning that you were thinking it

im calling bs on that

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Nos, why are you so sure that Koki and Pork are town?

I think that porkens is town because his d1 play was what i expect from town!porkens. porkens is hella obvious as scum and he wouldve been lynched already if scum.
I think kokichi is town because he's not gamma or nsg.

What's the difference between town and scum Pork?

Why is Gamma & NSG scummier than Koki?

whats the point of ur line of questioning here

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(Im a she btw)

whoops. i just want u to know that even when i say he, i mean she.

as contrary as that sounds o/

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how many dead town have to scumread gammas slot before we lynch it wtf

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I think its shoshin and gamma. Shoshin has enough towncred to sway away gamma lynch

i mean that doesn't justify how gross nsg's vote was or rc's behavior around the nsg

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gamma you're just like wagon-hopping on the biggest wagon

how many dead town have to scumread gammas slot before we lynch it wtf

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gee i wonder why that is

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gee i wonder

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Whoever is town should vote Kokichi before the scum do.

??? How does this post make any sense. You want me lynched why should it matter who votes me

the literal mechanics of this game

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@nosferatu, thoughts on kokichi needing to die before tomorrow?

why can't we kill him tomorrow

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Why do you think he needs to die tomorrow? You’re scumreading me and nsg right?

he's hated so he can't be in lylo

i infinitely want either one of you mroe than town kokichi

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Why do you think he needs to die tomorrow? You’re scumreading me and nsg right?

he's hated so he can't be in lylo

i infinitely want either one of you mroe than town kokichi

But a mislynch today makes tomorrow lylo
I am just baffled over this seeming oversight, it feels like you’re scumslipping here

no im just that confident that you or nsg flip scum here

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I don't understand how Nos chooses to follow Reck (a Nos scumread) onto Gamma (a Nos townread) instead of voting Kokichi (a Nos scumread)... what's the underlying thought process that leads to this?

because i changed my mind?

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you also act like any of my votes this game are as simple as "i scumread x now i am voting them" up to this point. It's like you willfully ignore things in front of you and pretend they don't exist

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rc still scum tho
VOTE: rc

i would comment on how annoying it is to play with people who deliver ultimatums at a moments notice but can't handle being scumread on both alignments but i know rc just doesn't care so like whatever

i was continuing a bit anyway so this doesnt matter to me to begin with

VOTE: nsg

VOTE: porkens

VOTE: varsoon

porkens is town and if we keep votes on him hes gonna do something dumb o/

VOTE: irrelephant

^ all votes that are not on scumreads

i might even go as far as to say other than gammag(who doesn't really count because they openscummed), I have not had a scumread this game til now.

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... because the hated modifier doesn't fall off?

why would you want him in lylo?

if we lynch scum its not lylo

are you really trying to see my pov or are these questions just pointless?

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If you're town, you don't know who the scum are. Only the scum know who the scum are.

OK, so then you think im bussing right now?

If we mislynch Koki today, we still get to use night actions and those actions might increase our chances of lynching scum tomorrow (via investigative results, for example). So, what's the harm in lynching Koki? Either way, we only have one shot to lynch scum.

see I disagree. I don't have confidence, in you all as players, to actually make investigations that would lead to results. I would rather lose here than lynch kokichi today, and then lose tomorrow.

Isn't it possible that scum have used switcheroo on kokichi with some town (I'll say me for example), you lynch me, I die, and scum bum rushes kokichi tomorrow for the win.

I could easily make the argument that its basically mylo right now

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You saying that means you aren’t 100% sure the team is exactly me+nsg though right?

sure, but im confident enough to not ~really~ care.

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Explain the change on Koki & Gamma.

your perceived scumread from me onto kokichi was from a PoE list, and kokichi hadnt proven himself town to me

there are now people who are scummier to me than kokichi has now proven himself to be one way or another, so I'm not willing to lynch kokichi.

That's what caused my initial shift. Now, kokichi's insistence on voting gamma basically conf-towns him to me.

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What caused the change? Point me to the specific posts from Koki and Gamma that changed it.

im not going to show you why i scumread gamma cause if youre asking you just dont want to read

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You saying that means you aren’t 100% sure the team is exactly me+nsg though right?

sure, but im confident enough to not ~really~ care.

the reason why ive got any uncertainty at all is cause im not ~entirely sure~ you guys are really trying

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exactly why i dont want to lynch kokichi right now

because your train of thought leads to a scum win

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You're saying it's not worth giving some townies the chance to use night actions because you think we suck at the game? What's the basis for that claim? Why do you think we suck? (For the record, I haven't been on any of the mislynches, and I've won my past 6 town games... and I know from experience that skitter, NSG, and Gamma are all very capable players....)

i dont think you suck at mafia in general, I think within the void in this game, I don't trust you to win it for us. Maybe win it for the scum team.

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I've read the game more than once. I'd like to know your thought process because as far as I can tell, you completely fabricated your reads. I don't see anything that would lead someone to change their mind in the way you did at the time you did, other than an opportunistic desire to be on the Gamma lynch, regardless of Gamma's alignment.

then you cant understand me, and there's no point in explaining it to you.

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Not really, no. I hadn't thought to lynch you until this conversation, where you have revealed a total absence of any thought process underlying your reads.

what do you mean not really. I knew this would go this way. That's why I don't trust you to win.

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And the idea that scum wouldn't use switcheroo on themselves is a non-starter. If Koki used switcheroo on himself, it's because Koki is scum. That much is pretty clear.

what? I just told you why it makes sense for them to not use it on themselves. Are they not able to use it on others?

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fyi, I checked, and they're not able to use it on anyone but themselves. but you didn't know that either otherwise you would have said so I assume.

That means my scenario is false but the rest still stands.

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everything about your play to me feels bad

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I have made multiple posts on why I think that gamma is scum

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because he did scummy things and I pointed it out

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We can actually make this a lot simpler and I think would make me understand what you don't understand, as fruitless as that might be.

Where do YOU think my read on gamma changed?

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you can say "its between this post and this post" or just one single inflection point, I just want to know where you think my read changed.

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How do you reconcile this with your claim that we shouldn't guarantee ourselves another night of actions because you don't trust us to use the investigations well?

my reads were different, the player list was different, different people were alive, the gamestate was different, we weren't one day before lylo.

all of these things factored into my confidence level, and I also had a different amount of confidence in the people who were alive then and are still here now.

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VOTE: Reck
Yeah this Koki push feels kinda shady

my read changed here.

how does that make you feel.

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Cake and Creature were the two you wanted to vote for Gamma instead of you?

can you unpack what you mean here cause like you just said words one after another and i dont understand why

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I try not to let my previous reads affect my interpretation of actions that are happening in the now now

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gamma made a survivalistic switch to reck that I didn't like. My read on gamma's slot didn't really matter, especially cause my read was a holdover from rc's posts d1. gamma has been slowly disintegrating that for me since he replaced in. this was simply the tipping point.

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What'd Gamma do prior to this point to make you suspect him?

nothing

he just didnt feel town like rc did

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actually

why am i even talking to you

i dont even care

VOTE: kokichi

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its 4 to lynch and kokichi is hated so he's l-1

you can lynch me tomorrow

i felt bad cause i was on the reck wagon and i wanted to make up for it by pushing for a gamma lynch but im just not going to get through to you, i can tell

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oh what ever will i do

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my role gives extra gold to a targeted person on the list,

ive only used it 2 times, on kokichi, and porkens, n3, n4

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about ready to park my vote on gamma again

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@Nos

Why did you give extra gold to Porkens? What have you done with your gold? And why didn't you use your role on N1 or N2?

1. Townread and I figured the game was p much over at this point.
2. Haven't used it. I didn't really want night powers in this game cause I was kinda busy at the start. Wanted to stay off of lynches for that reason.
3. Like the above I was unfortunately busy n1 and n2. no reason other than that.

do people know that they were given extra gold?

i asked pregame and i was told that they wouldnt know

@Nos

How much extra gold are they given?

2x or 2x items

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I bought a switcheroo item, and I have some other gold, too.

I have enough gold that if Nos targets me tonight with his role I might be able to do something cool, depending on how much gold his role gives.

its active the next day. We would be better off voting porkens and outlining what he will be doing tonight.

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2x items? Are you fucking kidding me? And you gave that to Porkens?

unlike you, I have trust in porkens

i would lay down my life for that man

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i just did

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why did you get switcheroo instead of investigative

pedit: I target someone, for the next day they get a gold boost I just described, 2x gold or 2x items.

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Please explain with more clarity. Like, paraphrase exactly what your PM says, please.

And why do you have such complete trust in Pork? Explain that too.

I scum read {nsg, gamma}
I town read {porkens,

kokichi

}
{skitter, you} are PoE town from nsg and gamma being scummier

why would I give it to you or skitter when theres someone I townread more?

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i'm a little confused what the point of your role is - like if i don't know that i got extra gold (or that this was even a possibility) how would i know how to use it even?

i mean i guess it's testable? (what do you mean by 'tis active the next day?' ie, say, if you picked porkens last night and he buys something tonight he'll get to use it twice?)

its active the next day as in they get a gold boost to whatever they get the day after I target them

so going with porkens example when he goes to buy something tonight he will have twice as much gold

I asked if they will be aware that they gained gold and I was told they would not. Logistics of that are beyond me.

[Nosferatu]

i didn't say you should give it to me?

1. I wasn't really talking to you
2. If I didn't give it to porkens that means I would have necessarily had to give it to you, shoshin or one of my scumreads.

[Nosferatu]

Why the fuck do you townread Porkens? Explain the read itself. Where does it come from?

have you ever played with porkens

porkens is scummy as shit when he's scum and basically just invites himself to a lynch

when he's town he's lynchbaity but he has a survivalism that isn't there as scum

i said before that he's really obvious

[Nosferatu]

wait does 2x items apply to gacha as well? or just items bought via fantasy costco?

has 2x as much gold or gets 2x as much gold?

they had 100 previously and got 50 today and you targeted them last night means they get ____ gold ?

2x items from gacha, not from fantasy costco

gets 2x as much gold

100 + 2(50) = 200 gold

[Nosferatu]

bleh maybe it's just gamma and nsg

crazy how it comes together like that

got it got it, thanks for clarifying

np

shoshin, you got any more questions

[Nosferatu]

does your action count as a targetable action?

I have to target them so I suppose yeah but I don't know for sure.

[Nosferatu]

From my perspective, that's you.

whats ur team rn

{me, skitter}

{nsg, skitter}

where u at rn

[Nosferatu]

Nos + Porkens scum

yikes my guy

[Nosferatu]

Btw nos, input on the me+Shoshin+skitter thing that happened?

i dont see how it makes you town

its an interesting web of actions that i dont really think matters tbh

[Nosferatu]

i mean why does you being a fruit vendor make you town lol?

[Nosferatu]

And that means the scum killed Creature on the same night that Gamma gave Creature food, which just doesn't make any sense from a scum Gamma perspective

actually i can see this

[Nosferatu]

if gamma is town that makes scum!nsg make a little less sense.

I wouldn't think RC would read that slot wrong as town and also go to such lengths to protect it by pretending to scumread it

[Nosferatu]

if gamma is town that makes scum!nsg make a little less sense.

I wouldn't think RC would read that slot wrong as town and also go to such lengths to protect it by pretending to scumread it

so what are you thinking?

its interesting

[Nosferatu]

if gamma is town that makes scum!nsg make a little less sense.

I wouldn't think RC would read that slot wrong as town and also go to such lengths to protect it by pretending to scumread it

so what are you thinking?

its interesting

1 failed midterm later

its interesting because without taking into account gammas night actions {gamma, nsg} is the most likely team

if gamma is town, then nsg is ~probably~ town

which would say {skitter, shoshin} are scum, but that makes less sense because as scum shoshin has both the track and the kill and can easily just kill, claim guilty, and sweep

no kill don't add up here

[Nosferatu]

crumbing a n1 nsg block?

[Nosferatu]

so are we lynching nsg or not

[Nosferatu]

i think i'm pretty much down for that

i also think she should have the chance to talk about it

i was also thinking but forgot to write that you've been consistently scumreading gamma + nsg but pushing gamma and trying to get him lynched which is kidna partner-indicative imo

cause gamma is the one that has been scumread by literally so many dead people so far and it makes no sense that he's still alive

nsg on the other hand legit no one seemed to have been scumreading

[Nosferatu]

also kokichi was also on gamma and wanted a gamma/shoshin lynch

so logically it doesn't make sense to push for an nsg lynch when im the only one who wants it

[Nosferatu]

gatcha vote: porkens

[Nosferatu]

did yall forget? everyone's mutual townread gets double items

[Nosferatu]

is it really possible for him to not get something informative at this point lol

[Nosferatu]

would probably suck

[Nosferatu]

what a wack example

u tried to compare this game where there are no flipped protectives to a game where there was a 3-shot doc

[Nosferatu]

like ok my dude its a "lot of assumptions" to ignore the case of a n2 no-kill scum move

totally

[Nosferatu]

and inb4 "someone could have used extreme teen bible"

no because that would require them to have gotten 200 gold from d1 town lynch

only way that could have happened is if i used my role on someone and they blocked it, in which case they would have been town and claimed

on top of that i didnt even use my role until d3

pedit: yes gamma hop on the bus

[Nosferatu]

yeah i made sure to check before i said that

[Nosferatu]

no reason to apologise

See Nosferatu is on the level

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: nsg

[Nosferatu]

Gamma just waiting for someone else to vote and hopping on immediately thereafter is also, especially since he's been doing that for like the last two dayphases

well believe it or not scum will do that

[Nosferatu]

if you guys are going to lynch me after rc called me locktown multiple times, shoshin has essentially prodged today after promising amazing reads yesterday and gamma has pretended to play the game then this town deserves to lose. that's not even talking about actually lynching today instead of no-lynching.

>rc has called me locktown
>gamma has pretended to play

hmm

[Nosferatu]

@shoshin i'm going to vote you if you don't fullclaim (role + gacha results + gold usage) or give me a very good reason why not

it's mylo, as a reminder

honestly im down for this

policy in mylo is a mood

[Nosferatu]

i don't understand your point.

u like say rc calling u town makes u town

but as a sidenote say gamma hasnt been playing which implies hes scum (otherwise why would u say that)

but theyre the same slot

[Nosferatu]

actually wait do we all think gamma is scum

can we lynch him?

[Nosferatu]

shoshin is a good lynch too cause she's been scumsiding for like 3 days straight and that deserves a lynch even if shes town

[Nosferatu]

UNVOTE: nsg

honestly who knows what ridiculous shit porkens might drop

[Nosferatu]

NSG & Skitter are the scum. What do I need to do to convince you? Please review the reasons I've provided as to why Gamma is town.

you dont need to convince me of anything on nsg

on gamma, id have to believe that rc would straight misread that shit
and be so confident he would try to pretend scumread to protect that slot

which is uhh

a lil' sketch


but nsg is totally scum

[Nosferatu]

nsg

he called nsg town

[Nosferatu]

there's no specific thing that makes him scum. its an overall behaviour around nsg who we both agree is scum

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: NSG

here's a present for those of you who are also town

mmm
ok
for me it's

{RC}
{Sircakez, Skitter, Creature, Shoshin}
{Gamma, Nosferatu}
-null line- {Irrelephant, Reckoner}
{Porkens, Kokichi, NSG}
{}
{Varsoon}

I was gonna like pretend to scumread you or something to keep you alive but I don't think that's a play suitable to this gamestate in hindsight.

This is my current readslist as well.
Going to move on to making my Gammagooey case.

{RC, NSG}
{Shoshin, Creature, Nosferatu}
{Sircakez, Skitter}
{Porkens}
-null line- {Varsoon}
{Reckoner}
{Kokichi Oma}
{Gammagooey}
{Irrelephant}

if you want to be refreshed on this i guess

rc was super confident on nsg being town

nsg being scum after that makes you kinda wonder does it not?

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: shoshin

at this point i just wanna see what happens

[Nosferatu]

if and when town loses this its gonna be my bad cause of how long i just trolled lmfao

[Nosferatu]

oh i voted shoshin?? that was unconscious my bad lol

i meant to vote no lynch

VOTE: no lynch

[Nosferatu]

thats l1 btw

[Nosferatu]

as i see it nsg has the options of {nos, gamma, porkens}

for possible scumreads and she cant want porkens dead cause that would be out of nowhere and i gave him extra gold

and hes lowkey negative town utility

so {nos, gamma} is the easiest team for her.

[Nosferatu]

@Nos did you target Porkens with your ability last night? And does it allow them to use the doubled powers the same night?

no, i targeted you cause y tf not at this point lol

[Nosferatu]

can't say i got any fruit lol

[Nosferatu]

not sure what you think my role does

[Nosferatu]

also btw i got gamma's fruit i just missed the pm

[Nosferatu]

not sure what you think my role does

It gives them two uses of the ability right?

no it gave him 2 abilities

[Nosferatu]

not sure what you think my role does

It gives them two uses of the ability right?

no it gave him 2 abilities

Which means?

you're misunderstanding somehow

its not a motivator...

[Nosferatu]

he would have gotten 1 item from fantasy thingy

he got 2

[Nosferatu]

does it really matter

[Nosferatu]

i just want u guys to know

my vote is spiritually on nsg

[Nosferatu]

good question

[Nosferatu]

disappointing to say the least

can we use an item the same night we buy it or