Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[Porkens]

Ego

[Porkens]

policy lynch this

no thanks

VOTE: skitter30

Gachapon vote: Shoshin

Partners.

[Porkens]

VOTE: Gammagooey

[Porkens]

Why isn't Gamma lynched yet?

[Porkens]

Really ok genius what do you think we should do?

VOTE: unvote

[Porkens]

You fold too quickly.

VOTE: grafientflowers

[Porkens]

Those good good boys got into Trolls 2.
Speaking of Trolls
Hey, Porkens, are you town?

as if you don't know

[Porkens]

I was actually looking at "how" he said it too. I suggest you look at some of his scum games to clear up your townread. I don't scumread him, but I'd like you to keep an open mind about it because I don't think he's anything close to town yet and I don't want him getting complacent about the game and zoning out.

This is just posturing.

[Porkens]

VOTE: unvote

I'm townreading RC now. more posts make it clearer.

VOTE: cakez

and sheeping

[Porkens]

I'm going to go over the varsoon stuff again later today because I don't really understand why people are scumreading him and a lot of the conversation around him but aside from that I feel like I've got a pretty decent handle on the game

@Shoshin - I'm giving Creature credit for having a decent scumgame because he and Papa Zito and Spiffeh smoked everyone in Transformers Mafia and from memory his earlygame there felt similar to the earlygame here of poking at a few things/people but really not doing a lot of substance.

VOTE: Porkens

Like his best post so far is #113 which is fine but not amazing and everything else feels between null and bad, and given the amount of people scumreading him to some extent it feels like we can make a real actual wagon happen even though nobody else is actually voting him right now.

Koki feels guttown to me too btw

I’m null/towny to you but you perceive that I’ll be an easy wagon.

K

VOTE: gammagooey

[Porkens]

Hey God Damon it wtf

[Porkens]

Are all you really that big of a chump?

Rc is railroading these things through and they don't even pass the giggle test.

VOTE: rc[/]

[Porkens]

VOTE: rc


I can only lead to his town to victory. Rc is a proven liar. Everyone says it that I've seen. Where is his evidence? NONE!

[Porkens]

Rc is masterminding.

[Porkens]

Yeah, this is petulant rc. Countdown to tears and replacing out in 3...2...1...

[Porkens]

no no stop

i promise I will start actually playing this game tomorrow.

please don't lynch me in the next 24 hours. I will read and post actual things

[Porkens]

I really don't ahve time to read it all, can someone summarize for me?

[Porkens]

VOTE: rc


I can only lead to his town to victory. Rc is a proven liar. Everyone says it that I've seen. Where is his evidence? NONE!

why are you the way you are

Wait did RC replace out? Jesus christ

[Porkens]

VOTE: unvote

[Porkens]

I wish I had someone to engage with me about this rn.

VOTE: porkens

[Porkens]

Oh my god its kidnety mafia again are you two on the same team?

[Porkens]

I was survivor in kidney mafia

I tried to claim a guilty on the SK so don't say I didn't help town

You were totally helping town, but Lycanfire was trying to collude with maf.

[Porkens]

few more hours i should have some time this evening

[Porkens]

No no don't replace out

VOTE: RadiantCowbells this is scum anyway -datcha!

[Porkens]

Don't be a mark.

[Porkens]

I was just trying to make it easy for RC to replace out.

[Porkens]

This is town Fartsoon

[Porkens]

Varsoon is reading town

RC was reading town to me

[Porkens]

gamma g, 826 still has that like hollow feel to it.

i don't really understand why you're scumreading porkens; he had like one post that i scumread but the rest of it is kinda wtf-y but i see no scum agenda or motivation for it; like i'm not sure why being completely out of the game is more likely to come from scum than town. the i glanced at his iso in hte transformers game and he at least had some cursory scumreads and was following along (he was scum there)

also he was the biggest wagon with five votes a few hundred posts back so i'm not sure where you're getting the 'people are fine calling him scum but not voting him' bit from; he really feels like lynchbait to me tbh

I think the scum motivation is just him not wanting to justify his RC read he mentioned earlier b/c it was completely made up and feeling like he'll get a lot more heavily scumread if he actually tries to play the game and give people reads when most of the game is giving him a pass for not doing shit now.

page 7-8 is what I'm talking about in particular for people calling him scum but not voting him. It was early game when votes were scattered pretty much everywhere and I don't think people had particularly solid reads (generally most people seemed to be on either NSG or skitter or on 1/2 vote wagons at the time), and 4 people mentioned him as a gut scumread (RC, Shoshin, you, and Irrelephant). I did misread Irrelephant's post about him the first time I went through it (saying that Porkens was gut scummy but he liked his post asking why I wasn't lynched yet for him to be a weak townread, instead of what I thought was him saying Porkens was gut scum and I was his weakest townread) RC's posts in particular feel bad mentioning that Porkens felt scummy twice but then not doing anything about it, but I don't really get why either you or him didn't bother voting Porkens when the three people thinking he was scummy (and me a few pages later if I remember correctly) could have made it into an actually threatening wagon that might have forced Porkens to do something if he's scum.

In post 826, Gammagooey wrote:
if RC flips town I think he's borderline locktown.


this is pinging me and i'm putting this here so i remember to look at this later after we get some flips (partners?)

also i'm a little confused because you say varsoon is prob only scum with rc but you don't want to read the game that way since it's day1 but you say sircakez is 'Cakez is my next biggest scumread after Porkens, but it's mostly gut and how he's played around Porkens' which looks to me at least partially like an svs associative based read too? can you elaborate on cakez please? and you're also calling kokichi town for interactions with porkens?

Varsoon I don't want to push today when I think he's likely ONLY scum if RC is also scum. It's something I think is worth considering later but lynching Varsoon solely because of my read on RC when I think Varsoon is very very likely town in the situation that RC isn't scum is awful, and in general I think basing a day's lynch off of reads on other unflipped players is really stupid given how often reads are wrong in general, ESPECIALLY day 1.

Cakez for me is more of a scum read based on his posts just feeling bad to me with the little side bonus that I think his vote progression has been weird and involved jumping on and off of Porkens despite what seemed like scumreading him fairly strongly for a bit from his iso. I think the closest I can get to describing how his play's felt to me is that most of his read reasoning's felt kinda fluffy and really surface-level so far, and that his progression from Porkens to me being 'Porkens needs death' to agreeing with RC's case on me to saying I haven't done anything to change his mind when I had posted twice that I wouldn't be around for the weekend feels more like an excuse to get off of Porkens than him really coming to the conclusion that I'm the best vote atm.

I honestly get excited when you gush about me like this.

[Porkens]

How’d you get those welts?

[Porkens]

http://theadventurezone.wikia.com/wiki/ ... of_Balance

[Porkens]

VOTE: Vote: Irrelephant

fine

[Porkens]

VOTE: gammagooey

Full circle man, full circle.

[Porkens]

whats going on what are you talking about?

[Porkens]

Yeah seconded NSG lead the way

[Porkens]

Irrelephant, I'm not seeing YOUR case on GamGooey as very strong. You are definitely targeting him, though. I assume that's because...

RadiantCowbells wrote:
VOTE: Irrelephant
VOTE: Kokichi Oma
VOTE: Gammagooey

[Porkens]

Hey Gemerald can I get like a 2-3 line summary of how you feel about the game at the moment?

It's kinda hard to tell where your mind's at when I don't know how far through the game you are and how far you've read since you've last posted

"I don't want to read the thread and guess what you think, so just tell me please?"

[Porkens]

Reading his ISO...

VOTE: Reckoner

The more I play forum mafia the more I enjoy last minute wagons

Gamma and Irrelephant

[Porkens]

gamma, irrelephant, varsoon?

[Porkens]

No varsoon town.

[Porkens]

VOTE: irrelephant

[Porkens]

vote varsoon for fantasy gashapon

[Porkens]

VOTE: gammagoey

[Porkens]

I want gold. I don’t care who dies.

[Porkens]

Townbloc is creature, porkens, nsg.

We have a pt.

Scum are fucked.

[Porkens]

Cause I don’t know Shoshin

[Porkens]

Y’all can lap it up that’s fine

[Porkens]

dunno seems like a townslip

[Porkens]

dunno seems like a townslip

Explain?

I forgot about the costco too

[Porkens]

until creature reminded me

[Porkens]

so am i allowed to vote for the wagon or not :/

[Porkens]

so am i allowed to vote for the wagon or not :/

Why was this not a concern when voting Gooey?

'cause that was the first time

[Porkens]

I just want to hop on GE wagon but I'm afraid itll look scummy.

will it?

[Porkens]

I dunno. my scumreads haven't really changed but they arent super strong either

[Porkens]

VOTE: gamma emerald word

[Porkens]

shut up you suck

[Porkens]

V/la until Monday

[Porkens]

VOTE: gatachopon shoshin

[Porkens]

rec could be scum

[Porkens]

VOTE: reck

[Porkens]

sorry yeah

VOTE: gamma

[Porkens]

@nsg

Its been like two dayphases and i still dont know why you did this

disagreeing with someone isn't "ignoring evidence". it just isn't. yes, i was wrong. doesn't mean i "ignored evidence"

Maybe i"m mistaken, but i was under the impression that you ascribe to math's school of thought to some degree, wherein a player is trying to read X and will depend on Y's read of X since Y can read X very welll.

In that context Im a little surprised that you disregarded shoshin here, but maybe im just wrong about how you view crowdsourcing reads

Honestly, these kinds of these things just go right past me. What could it all mean? I just feel around till I grabscum.

[Porkens]

VOTE: koki

[Porkens]

gachapon vote

shoshin

[Porkens]

Stop stalking ffs

[Porkens]

*stalling

[Porkens]

Lynch kokichi pls

[Porkens]

why do people try to politic scumreads like this?

[Porkens]

is he dead yet?

[Porkens]

Headesk

[Porkens]

I hate role spec and tile lies

[Porkens]

Pork, what did you do last night?

I did nothing

[Porkens]

I don't see a good case for nsg lynch

[Porkens]

N

ormally, I'd be throwing down on Gammagoo for that hammer, but I'm actually pretty sure of scum that isn't him.

S

o right now, I'm gonna sit on that, though, 'cus I am interested in what everyone else has to think.

G

ooey, do you have anything you want to share?

uh maybe i'm overlooking things but look at the bolded, first letter of each sentence

porkens did you see this?

no :/

[Porkens]

so you are submitting that Varsoon blocked nsg and hence NK?

[Porkens]

cause im not buying it

[Porkens]

VOTE: fantasy gachapon nsg

[Porkens]

why is skitter town?

[Porkens]

I have so much gold

[Porkens]

for what though?

[Porkens]

I have a follow report.
I got a 1 shot cop

[Porkens]

I want to hear the other reports first

[Porkens]

vla till democrats take the house.

[Porkens]

northsidegal visited skitter30

[Porkens]

I just got it this morning so I haven’t been able to use it yet

[Porkens]

I'm not sure im ok with this. WHY is shoshin tonw exactly?

[Porkens]

VOTE: gachapon nos

VOTE: shoshin

I really dont think nos is scum

[Porkens]

This game was easy

[Porkens]

Good job team!

[Porkens]

man, this wisdom strategy of just calling people scum and telling people to vote with you seems like it actually works

porkens this meta that you're setting up for yourself seems like a pile of garbage

I mean you still probably won't get lynched tomorrow which is nice I guess but for future reference godamn you're getting lynched d1 if you play like this in another game with me

[Porkens]

When this game started I was so overwhelmed, I could only really check a couple times a day, read the last few posts, and prodge. Day 1 I thought we would lose, but then bang

[Porkens]

Once we got you out of the way yeah it was easier