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Well that seems like the basics but sometimes pairs are more better thought out by the group. Town doesn't normally like to do that though because 'teamwork'In post 27, DVa wrote:
Hi fam!
We should just ask our townreads to the dance basically right?
Karmeleon, do you go by Karmy? What's the short version of your name?
Pedit: What's going on LLD what am I missingI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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TvT pair right here imo I don't mind it.
This feels a little forcedIn post 44, Malakittens wrote:I don’t even know you! I’m okay with an early p2 read from someone I knowI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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In post 52, Firebringer wrote:Come on people this is like pregame no serious business
This is for shit posts and trolling only
The troll is you asking RC to dance seriously B)In post 53, Firebringer wrote:I am scumreading rcI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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While I agree this is 100% the best way and style to go at it. No one is gonna do it because people are playing to have fun first win second. If people want to match with friends there sadly gonna do it most likely. (Ugh I wish I was a gent so we could dance LLD)In post 92, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
My thoughts on this setup after playing it the first time is that we should go forIn post 8, RadiantCowbells wrote:Most importantly I'd like there two be at least two unquestionably TvT pairings that don't include me and I'd like to dance with ideally low priority nightkill town as well
3 pairings of the most townie people with townie people (one is gonna die to scum's nightkill, and if we rely too heavily on being right for sure on the other one we can be screwed. Odds are we find at least one T+T pairing in the remaining 2).
Then we pair the remaining groups wiht the following values in mind:
Most townie remaining Lady -> Least Townie remaining Gent
by definition it'll create some TvT pairings but I think more importantly, it allows for us to put high trust targets with low trust targets. I also considered doing like 3 bad with bads for them to agree to die, but basically we need to have pairings where we can read them while also relying that there is a solid town person able to leave the dance if necessary.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Now that I think about it me and LLD being a dance would get us auto lynched because we're both good scum players and that's all people would really need to push us >_>
pedit: That anger can be real but it's NAI anger.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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In post 102, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Then Karmeleon is probably scum.In post 101, Firebringer wrote:
AltIn post 99, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:oh wait fuck, another join date concern.
Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?
Found the first person I wanna dance with.In post 110, Moment wrote:Is that so? From what I remember it seems relatively similar. What's different?
---In post 13, Sakura Hana wrote:But im most likely never gonna be obvtown nor in a "unequestionably TvT" pairing so I figured why not.
Asking someone to dance who hasn't even posted yet is a questionable decision regardless of whether or not you meet the criteria for some optimal pairing. What about thinking you won't be widely townread leads to the conclusion of immediately asking someone to dance? Even further, I wouldn't take that last game as a real example of anything - from memory, you were pretty widely townread in Minuet's Trio and Forgotten Hourglass.In post 19, Sakura Hana wrote:I just survived to endgame as scum, that doesnt happen to someone "easy to read"
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I'm leaning Gamma Emerald and Sakura scum for now. It's slightly bothering me that people aren't seeming to take this seriously - even if you don't care about winning, you don't have to sabotage everyone else's chances of winning.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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hm?In post 114, Firebringer wrote:I already told you good luck with it LLD, everything else you try saying is just you trying to assert some makeshift power you hold.
Pretty sure ur scum too rn
I believe this dumbtellIn post 119, Firebringer wrote:Does this game have four or three scum, I forgotSell me on these 2 ty
pedit: OF COURSE HE/SHE ISI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Why are all the ladies the ones posting good content and I have to try and read these bottom of the barrel gents REEEEI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Oh please kill thisIn post 132, shortaru wrote:
But how do we know that you're not Mafia trying to control pairings?In post 105, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
It really will not be hard.In post 100, Firebringer wrote:
Good luck with thatIn post 93, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.
So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.
I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"
The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.
There's a lot to gain for scum to decide who lovers are.
I'm going to be listening to confirmed town Radiant.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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PreachIn post 138, Brian Skies wrote:This game would have been more fun to spectate, to be honest.
I'll be back later when I care more about analyzing than laughing at some of the things that's been said so far.
You're kinda easy to pocket when you're town Sakura so my worry is if Kokichi is scum with you town you'll hard defend him. The fact you ask with no breaks and it's a 0 poster makes me think you won't worry about that because you could be scu,.In post 144, Sakura Hana wrote:Why are you so worried that I asked Kokichi to dance? I had decided that i'd do that since he in'd for this because he's a cool person i like playing with. Besides it's not like he has accepted or rejected yet.
Yeah this too.In post 147, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
By doing it early it shirks any way for us to plan pairings that optimize town's benefits. Additionally, doing it before KOKICHI HAS EVEN POSTED shirks our ability to try and isolate a scum and deny them a pairing.In post 144, Sakura Hana wrote:Why are you so worried that I asked Kokichi to dance? I had decided that i'd do that since he in'd for this because he's a cool person i like playing with. Besides it's not like he has accepted or rejected yet.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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YOU SO WOULD TOO YOU JERKIn post 191, Moment wrote:I wish I could dance with Maria so I could kill both of us if I thought she was scum and get my revenge for Forgotten Hourglass.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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On one hand I'm happy that I have townreads
on the other I'm annoyed it's all ladies because the guys can't town tell to save there god dam life.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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can mala ask kar or sho to dance so I can kill them both.
Or we leave mala out atm.
Either of these please meI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Before I answer why did you ask me about gamma out of everyone.In post 203, Moment wrote:What's your read on Gamma Emerald?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Had a really forced post that I didn't enjoy and no one else is really pinging me on the ladies sideIn post 205, shortaru wrote:
Why is Mala scum?In post 197, MariaR wrote:can mala ask kar or sho to dance so I can kill them both.
Or we leave mala out atm.
Either of these please me
I forgot why I was tring you ngl.In post 206, Karmeleon wrote:In post 166, MariaR wrote:TvT pair right here imoI don't mind it.
This feels a little forcedIn post 44, Malakittens wrote:I don’t even know you! I’m okay with an early p2 read from someone I know
???In post 197, MariaR wrote:can mala ask karor shoto dance so I can kill them both.
Or we leave mala out atm.
Either of these please meI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Just iso'd gamma can see him being scum. But if he's scum kar prob isn't. Maybe I should just take back my kar sr and replace it with gamma.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Back off sister. I can't dance with anyone else besides those 2.In post 219, Firebringer wrote:
Get ur hands of them.In post 218, MariaR wrote:I think the only 2 people I can ask to dance are Bri/Sir cake sadly
They are my reserve dancesI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I refuse to dance with dunn this game so he's all yours.
I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Yes I'm very upset.In post 234, Firebringer wrote:Did he call you fat?
I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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*sniff* thanks I just came all dolled up and it took a lot of confidence to come here and-*cries* guys suck!In post 240, Firebringer wrote:
*hugs* it’s alright, you don’t need him girl. You are better than himIn post 237, MariaR wrote:
Yes I'm very upset.In post 234, Firebringer wrote:Did he call you fat?
I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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ConvenientIn post 253, Malakittens wrote:@maria I obv town really quickly once I start posting actual solid serious content soI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I'll wait for him to finish catching up or see if anyone has a strong reason I shouldn't dance with him but yeah that's prob my first pickI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Scum would obv know they have 2 other partners ie 3 scum. So I believe fire when he says he forgot how many scum were in this game. So no I wasn't jokingIn post 285, DVa wrote:In post 182, MariaR wrote:
I believe this dumbtellIn post 119, Firebringer wrote:Does this game have four or three scum, I forgot
Maria were you joking here? Because I don't think Firebringer is unaware of how many scum are in the game and this seems like a really weird reaction to his post. Why would you "believe this dumbtell"?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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You haven't played with fire clearly.In post 301, DVa wrote:
I'm not sure that I believe that you believe this.In post 286, MariaR wrote:Scum would obv know they have 2 other partners ie 3 scum. So I believe fire when he says he forgot how many scum were in this game. So no I wasn't joking
Either you really think Fire is derptastic or you are fabricating a reason to townread him
That "dumbtell" post really bothers me coming from youI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Also Dva making up townreads is the easiest thing to do in the game. If I wanted to go the line of faking a townread on fire saying he dumbtold isn't the line I need to go.
Pedit: What were you expecting thenI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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But if you obv town really quickly why is it so shocking for someone to tr you? Unless we have 2 dif thoughts on what quickly means.In post 314, Malakittens wrote:In post 262, MariaR wrote:
ConvenientIn post 253, Malakittens wrote:@maria I obv town really quickly once I start posting actual solid serious content so
It’s your opinion if you think my post was forced. I was asking because I want to legitimately know if he was townreading me for an actual reason or it was just one of those well Mala is town! I myself tend to pocket a lot of people who call me town and not think anything about it. Also the fact I tend to get lynched a lot D1 so for someone to town read me so early on really caught my eye.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Dear SirCakez
Join me if you Dare
We'll dance and laugh with glee
For you I'd get down on one knee
So won't you accompany me?
Yours truly
MariaR
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I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I mostly agree with your lady picks besides Sakura but I disagree with your logic. I don't think you should match yourself with someone you think is scummy because that means we lose you. (At least that's what I assumed when you said dance with dva/sakura)I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Oh ye don't worry I get it. I'm just throwing it out thereIn post 342, SirCakez wrote:Maria I think it's juuuuuust too early to accept ya know?
Sakura your ISO claiming to be hard to read is literally my thoughts on you every game we play.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Because she knows kokichi will say yes regardless.In post 393, Firebringer wrote:Why don’t you care or want to be townread?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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We didn't screw up imo. We were outright gonna win the game Katsuki just messed up by not hammering in time. That was even said in the dead thread. Scum/scum is very dangerous if played rightIn post 442, Gamma Emerald wrote:Scum-scum won’t leave but means they lose 2 instead of 1 if Lynched
Last run Maria and Dunn screwed up by pairing with each other, though they did pocket me through that course of action
Though almost everyone screwed up that gameI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Uh what did you sayIn post 452, Malakittens wrote:Also I’m glad Maria just flat out ignores my reply. ^__^I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Atm yes.In post 457, Firebringer wrote:r u reading LLD as town, maria?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I simply didn't see it. I wouldn't openly ignore you you're not Kokichi!In post 467, Malakittens wrote:In post 456, MariaR wrote:
Uh what did you sayIn post 452, Malakittens wrote:Also I’m glad Maria just flat out ignores my reply. ^__^
Apparently it’s really not important to you so whatever fuck itI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Tldr is there's a really optimal way to play this set up but town will never do it because of the teamwork it requiresIn post 472, Brian Skies wrote:
This is probably not that important, but I don't understand what this is supposed to mean.In post 165, MariaR wrote:Well that seems like the basics but sometimes pairs are more better thought out by the group. Town doesn't normally like to do that though because 'teamwork'I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Also ik you wouldn't say yes anyway cause if we didn't get killed at intermission you'd sui on me in paranoiaI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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We've danced every game. I want to switch it up *shrug*In post 510, Dunnstral wrote:This might be worth mentioning since it implies there's some out of game reason she doesn't want to dance with me when that's not the case (to my knowledge...)
So she has some other reason to not dance with meI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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This is really bad and you know it. Like are me and LLD good scum players? Yes but that doesn't mean you just auto fos the other player if one of us flips scum. I know LLD is a good scum player but I'm not gonna just go "Oh I would tr lld but it's lld so no" cause that's shitty.In post 524, Firebringer wrote:
Btw if no one knows this if Maria or LLD flip scumIn post 520, Firebringer wrote:I find it odd LLD and Maria seem to both tr each orher
We need FoS the other because they are insanely at good at hiding scum associations togetherI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I would basically require the IC and the town to work together to find the most town guy and lady and pair them off one at a time get 2 or 3 lock town v town pairs. Then you get the most scummy pairings together leaving the most scummy lady out of the dance.In post 534, ChibiBear wrote:
Are you willing to elaborate on what this strategy would be and why it would work?In post 489, MariaR wrote:
Tldr is there's a really optimal way to play this set up but town will never do it because of the teamwork it requiresIn post 472, Brian Skies wrote:
This is probably not that important, but I don't understand what this is supposed to mean.In post 165, MariaR wrote:Well that seems like the basics but sometimes pairs are more better thought out by the group. Town doesn't normally like to do that though because 'teamwork'I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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You people are townreading dunn way too easily btw. Nothing he's said is outside his scumrange. The only thing he's done that I've liked is he tr's a lot of the players I do but even then that's not a very good reason to warrant a townread.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Kokichi are you going to say yes to Sakura by the way. I need to see who I want left out. I assume you're gonna say yes to her regardless but if not that'd be great.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I'm not sure if I want to pair with Cakez atm given I'm not as widely townread as I was hoping to be. (Although considering I'm Maria I guess that's wishful thinking anyway)I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Please never auto suicide it's one of the major factors on why town loses this set up over winning. It's best to lynch yourself.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Well having opposite reads is more interesting/better than having the same I suppose. Can you go into more detail on Sakura for me.
Pedit: Fair enough.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Mostly this I feel like town sakura would be more careful and aware of how scum kokichi can play around her. She doesn't have to worry about that if she's scum of course.In post 190, MariaR wrote:You're kinda easy to pocket when you're town Sakura so my worry is if Kokichi is scum with you town you'll hard defend him. The fact you ask with no breaks and it's a 0 poster makes me think you won't worry about that because you could be scum.
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I dont have TRs on any of those 4In post 288, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I think Maria<->Cakez is a good pairing.
I also think Dunnstral<->LLD is a good pairing.
Because frankly 1) I think all four of those names are town now seeing their posting
and 2) I think all four of those names are entirely unafraid of killing themselves to kill the other if they get the slightest hint of them being scum.
I do want to run it by other people's reads, specifically interested in our confirmed town's perspective on things, but yeah I think those are a few good pairings.
Where is any of the reasoning of why in these posts? She just shades players but never gives any reasoning herself on why she feels this way. The only reason I'm not pressing on this harder is town sakura always srs me out of fear.In post 518, Sakura Hana wrote:
Really, I am FoSing MariaR and LLD.In post 514, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's always funny to me how my top scumread on D1 is always a universal townread (i feel like mentioning it's not LLD.)
The only Sakura post I found towny would this one because I know this feeling
Given I just won a scumgame myself and I expect a lot of people to suspect me simply because of who I am I can understand her feelings here. This can be typed as scum because she can truly feel this but this is the only post I've found remotely towny.In post 397, Sakura Hana wrote:
Because the thing that happens after winning a scumgame while getting obvtown or locktown read, is that people will question their ability to read me and will never townread me again, and so i will probably be ML'd for several town games in a row, so im just pre-emptively preparing for the worst.In post 393, Firebringer wrote:Why don’t you care or want to be townread?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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