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[BrightEyedFish]

what's that list above, Oka?

Doesn't really matter, why do you ask?

It kinda does, because it makes no sense unless you explain it?

I'll explain it when I think it's relevant?

Why do you need to know what it means?

VOTE: OkaPoka

Maybe it should start getting more relevant.

[BrightEyedFish]

@OkaPoka

Your data just distracts me and makes me want to not trust you. Add some explanation to your stats and maybe help us instead of just trying to be all cryptic.

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: BEF
weak read, but maybe scum-nervous in finding out the cryptic system he cant control?

It's not about controlling his datasheet. If we at least knew what the values represented. High is good/bad Then it might give us some insight into his reads. I don't need to know how he gets his values, I just want to know if x=townlean or y=scumlean....

[BrightEyedFish]

I like this wagon:
VOTE: DrDolittle

[BrightEyedFish]

Dva can you elaborate about puffyfish imploding when pressurized

Try it and find out.

[BrightEyedFish]

Good morning, how can I be of assistance?

[BrightEyedFish]

Good morning, how can I be of assistance?

Can you elaborate yourself about how "you implode" when pressurized

I think thats a reference to an ongoing game and I can't say anything about that.

[BrightEyedFish]

BEF what's your reads of PenguinGifs, Gammachan, and Neegan?

Who is neegan?

[BrightEyedFish]

PenguinPower:
Not much to go on in his ISO, but I can’t use this against him because I have been neglecting this game as well. But now I can give it more attention. Nothing incriminating in his posts. I’ll leave the PP at null for now.

Gamma:
No pushing too hard, put spreading his pushes all around. I like it. Town-ish to me.

Neegan (Radja)
He is the scummiest out of this bunch.

I've never played with DrDolittle so I'm not familiar with how he tends to play. I'm more bothered by BrightEyedFish who also hasn't contributed much but has hopped onto that wagon without commenting on anything that's happened.

He critizies me for not really contributing and just jumping on the DDL wagon, why he who has also not really contributed anything, just jumps on a wagon…

VOTE: Radja

[BrightEyedFish]

PenguinPower:
Not much to go on in his ISO, but I can’t use this against him because I have been neglecting this game as well. But now I can give it more attention. Nothing incriminating in his posts. I’ll leave the PP at null for now.

Gamma:
No pushing too hard, put spreading his pushes all around. I like it. Town-ish to me.

Neegan (Radja)
He is the scummiest out of this bunch.

I've never played with DrDolittle so I'm not familiar with how he tends to play. I'm more bothered by BrightEyedFish who also hasn't contributed much but has hopped onto that wagon without commenting on anything that's happened.

He critizies me for not really contributing and just jumping on the DDL wagon, why he who has also not really contributed anything, just jumps on a wagon…

VOTE: Radja

Have you ever played a game with Radja? If yes, do you think you know their meta well?

I can't recall.

[BrightEyedFish]

I don't really get the wagon on myself.

Are you wanting me to "implode" or is there something notable I'm missing?

[BrightEyedFish]

@puffyfish Your play looks convenient and is underwhelming

Understood, I'll be more present in this game now. I just got caught up somewhere else but that's no longer a distraction for me.

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: gamma emerald

@a50 yo join me over here

I think this is the right play. Gamma's interactions and questions are very surface level, checking his iso he does a lot of "positive" posting rather than trying to elevate discussion by contradicting. Has no real scumreads yet which is kinda weird, his jump on DrDolittle is kinda weak because he did a posture post that doesn't really make sense? Thinking that he is just showing up to say a few words and then checking out, letting the rest of us talk it out, as opposed to genuinely gamesolving. Still think kokichi is scum, but I'll switch for now.

I don't have any real scum reads either. Is that wierd for you as well. It's still early and IMO we haven't had any act that has denoted the finding of scum.

[BrightEyedFish]

Yeah since no one is doing anything about the game, I'm just gonna ask all of your opinions about policy lynching and who should we PL.

I'm 100%

AGAINST

Policy Lynches. If you don't like to play with someone you should both avoid each other.

Noted.

BEF is off. Only 4 posts thus far isn't what I would have expected from him. This is a scum lean already for the low activity.

Is this your policy?

So, my read list roughly looks like this:

Seph
Oka
Nako/Radja/Joey
DVa/Gamma (Giving him leeway)
PP/Tchill/Koki/DrD (I'll accept the scum sample game as being a crying contrast to his play in this game)

BEF (I guess that's where my vote should be?)

VOTE: BEF

Are you asking for permission to throw your vote on me at this time?

@Oka: OK.

VOTE: Koki

I will reiterate though that I'm not able to develop any reads of my own regarding Koki in particular, never pegged him correctly even once, and even indirectly got him lynched as a claimed PR and my own neighbour bc I couldn't decipher his play in early game and when I finally got it it was too late and the town didn't listen to me.

No reads yourself... yet you vote... again... Looking for a hint from someone?

You vote him so others (myself included) can read him. Im telling you i dont need said pressure to read him correctly and if anything, it might skew his judgment and his reads. And FTR, I fake claimed mason with him more than once because I hard townread his ass and he was being pushed on so trust me on that one

Oh, FGS. I hate leaving my vote idle as I go to sleep. Is PP a good voting target? How about Tchill? Although I think I saw more than one vote on Tchill and he is already active enough, so I don't want to put him in lynching zone just yet.

VOTE: Penguin

Another pointless vote with no basis besides not wanting to idle?

I don't know... Are you just totally unsure and trying to make everyone happy or are you just hoping one of these wagons sticks?

In my last post, I said I didn't have any real scum reads. That changed after I looked at your ISO.

[BrightEyedFish]

In my last post, I said I didn't have any real scum reads. That changed after I looked at your ISO.

Good for you. Keep up the excellent work.

I'll do my best.
VOTE: Almost50

[BrightEyedFish]

Almost50, what do you think about BEF at the moment?

Same as I thought before. He didn't bring anything new (at least not to me). The only thing he's done is try to make a case on me to justify voting me, which is meh. For one thing I know my own alignment and thus know it's a bs case. For another, BEF has never seen me as scum to begin with, but he should -from his experience- think my reads as town are bad enough (the only finished game with him I was basically playing FOR scum while I was town and HE was scum).

I'm not too much into meta, I tend to make my reads according to the current game. I only go into meta if I am having doubts.

[BrightEyedFish]

BEF, what is your opinion on Tchill?

Also BEF, do you have any townreads?

No full out townreads.
A50 his the one I have leaning most to scum then maybe penguin and joey. Everyone else is null pile. However, if I had to choose 2 people right now to be on the town side it is gamma and nako.

[BrightEyedFish]

Nako more town than okapoka? Hmm OK.

Convince me otherwise.

[BrightEyedFish]

hi im sick here are some basic thoughts cuz im too tired to go deep:

@bes its not lack of scumreads its lack of will do to anything to develop scumreads or push existing one that is my problem with kokichi

almost50 is playing more like town ap than scum ap

i dont see how anyone can read kokichi as town rn

i also dont see how nako is so sure about townread gamma

i dont see why tchill is going after drdolittle if he is doing the ok with mislynch thing when kokichi and gamma exist

gamma thinking mutual townreads is a good idea shouldn't exist esp after we just played a double day unlimited game where mutual townreads ended up being very bad

people need to clarify their ideas more

There isn't much clarity in your post. Just statements. Show some evidence please.

[BrightEyedFish]

Also that’s a lot of little suspicions you’re throwing out Oka. Not a fan.

It's not really suspicion more of I just don't like the hypocrisy in his post.

[BrightEyedFish]

To further explain m#492, its overjustifying and compliant. IMO it feels like you know for a fact that my post has merit and you answer in a way to appease my qualms. If you thought i was a mefia, you would probably think my post is scum-agenda and not answer like that at all

my

I only have you leaning a little scummy right now. Regardless of my read on you, your comment about me did have merit. Until that point in this game, I could understand how anyone, scum or town, could see my play as "convenient and is underwhelming"

[BrightEyedFish]

Alright, would you mind, pretty please, tell me why am i a little scummy right now

Honestly, I'm not for sure. Perhaps it's the PvE attitude I kinda feel you have going on. I know that being PvE, especially in D1, is mostly NAI but it's gave me the feeling that I should keep an eye on you.

[BrightEyedFish]

What does pve mean in this context

I don't see you buddying up to anyone and you are being fairly liberal with your voting.

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm retracting my towncase of Kokichi

I'm not getting to this game until tomorrow evening I'm afraid.

I've skimmed through and I think my votes is in a good spot right now.

Tomorrow evening has come and gone. Do you even know where your vote it atm. I don't think you are paying attention at all.
I still like my A50 read but I think we need to get Radja back into the fold one way or another.
VOTE: Radja

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm retracting my towncase of Kokichi

I'm not getting to this game until tomorrow evening I'm afraid.

I've skimmed through and I think my votes is in a good spot right now.

Tomorrow evening has come and gone. Do you even know where your vote it atm. I don't think you are paying attention at all.
I still like my A50 read but I think we need to get Radja back into the fold one way or another.
VOTE: Radja

Honestly hate this post for some reason and I'm not even sure why. Feels fake

It wasn't fake. We weren't getting anything from him and I didn't want him to get a free pass. Now he has asked for replacement so hopefully we get a more contributing player. I'll go ahead and
UNVOTE:
just so the sub can get a chance to get his feet wet.

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok. But you're not getting anything from me. Why was he the better vote over me at that moment?

Are you a better vote?

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok. But you're not getting anything from me. Why was he the better vote over me at that moment?

Are you a better vote?

You realize you're just answering my question with a question. I'm asking at that time, why did you think he was a better vote than me?

When did I ever say he was a better vote than you?

[BrightEyedFish]

You realize you're just answering my question with a question.

I don't know to answer your question.

[BrightEyedFish]

But, by voting him? Unless you're saying you just voted him over me, even though you thought I was a better vote which is worse.

I didn't know I had to choose you or him.

[BrightEyedFish]

But, by voting him? Unless you're saying you just voted him over me, even though you thought I was a better vote which is worse.

You must be confusing me with someone else... I never said you were a better vote... Can you please tell me which post you are referring to in where I said you were a better vote...

[BrightEyedFish]

But, by voting him? Unless you're saying you just voted him over me, even though you thought I was a better vote which is worse.

I didn't know I had to choose you or him.

THen why did you vote him?

685

[BrightEyedFish]

But, by voting him? Unless you're saying you just voted him over me, even though you thought I was a better vote which is worse.

You must be confusing me with someone else... I never said you were a better vote... Can you please tell me which post you are referring to in where I said you were a better vote...

Okay.

You said you voted him because you felt he needed to be n the fold correct?

Do you feel that I'm in the fold currently? If so, why?

I voted him to maybe get some pressure that he shows up and contributes... But after my vote he replaced out and I unvoted because the reason I voted him in the first place was voided out since he asked to be replaced. It had/has nothing to do with you.

[BrightEyedFish]

I can't believe this day 1 still isn't over lol. Kinda ridiculous.

Who are your top 3 lynch candidates?

[BrightEyedFish]

Dva kokichi and DDL. I'd shoot them all today, with vig shots if I could.

I could maybe get behind a wagon on one of them. I'm thinking kokichi but I'm not for sure its not just the bad vibes I got form my recent exchange with him. I was on the DDL wagon earlier but I don't think much of it anymore. Dva is null to me. I guess that leaves kokichi for the "better vote".

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

[BrightEyedFish]

BEF what do you think of Tyrion rn?

Not much after this post...

I've read 5 of 30 pages total. The odds of town catching scum d1 are low. It's more likely we wagon scum then wagon someone else and end up lynching town. I won't be the day one lynch. Don't waste your time.

[BrightEyedFish]

can everyone who isn't aboard the kokichi wagon explain why they aren't aboard the kokichi wagon?

I second this.

[BrightEyedFish]

can everyone who isn't aboard the kokichi wagon explain why they aren't aboard the kokichi wagon?

I second this.

Kinda late there pal

What should we do then? Vote NL, because that is how it seems to be going?

[BrightEyedFish]

We have an entire week to go?
Honestly I’ve noticed a consistent trend of people being really panicky about deadlines these days and it is really obnoxious

Ahhhhh. you're right.
I just don't know where we go from here. I'm ok with being on the Kokichi wagon, but its not a solid read. What wagon do you suggest?

[BrightEyedFish]

All Fish has done was OMGUS me because I'm the 2nd biggest wagon.

Better you than me.

[BrightEyedFish]

rofl

What else can I say. I'm more worried about not getting lynched and I am open to any suggestions. Lynching you will save me from being lynched.

[BrightEyedFish]

rofl

You are voting me. Is this because you think I'm scum or because I'm the opposing wagon?

[BrightEyedFish]

You never really gave a reason as to why you are voting me.

[BrightEyedFish]

I voted you because I think your reason for voting was bad earlier

I'm voting you.

Now that seems like OMGUS.

[BrightEyedFish]

I think koki is the best bet moving forward right now. But like gamma said we don't need to rush it.
However, I'm not for sure where else to look right now... that meaning I have no other scum reads besides A50 but that wagon won't go anywhere.

[BrightEyedFish]

UNVOTE:

I'll also have to do a new read list. I'm totally clueless right now.

[BrightEyedFish]

Dva – Town
Gamma – Town
Mew – null
Joey – town
Oka – null, leaning town
Chill – leaning scum
PP – Leaning town
A50 – Scum
Kokichi – town
Nako – leaning scum
DDL – leaning town
Seph – town

So my top scum reads are in order:
A50, Nako, tChill13

I would like to lynch A50 but like I said, no will follow right now, so I'll

VOTE: Nako

[BrightEyedFish]

Dva – Town
Gamma – Town
Mew – null
Joey – town
Oka – null, leaning town
Chill – leaning scum
PP – Leaning town
A50 – Scum
Kokichi – town
Nako – leaning scum
DDL – leaning town
Seph – town

So my top scum reads are in order:
A50, Nako, tChill13

I would like to lynch A50 but like I said, no will follow right now, so I'll

VOTE: Nako

Why are scumreading A50?

Nothing has changed for me on A50 since my post 433

[BrightEyedFish]

EBWOP

And if you see A50's follow up to my read on him, it just made me dig in deeper on my scum read of him.

In my last post, I said I didn't have any real scum reads. That changed after I looked at your ISO.

Good for you. Keep up the excellent work.

[BrightEyedFish]

Dva – Town
Gamma – Town
Mew – null
Joey – town
Oka – null, leaning town
Chill – leaning scum
PP – Leaning town
A50 – Scum
Kokichi – town
Nako – leaning scum
DDL – leaning town
Seph – town

So my top scum reads are in order:
A50, Nako, tChill13

I would like to lynch A50 but like I said, no will follow right now, so I'll

VOTE: Nako

VOTE: BEF

This redlist can't come from town. If it did, that townie deserves to get lynched, vigged, and forced to wear a pink dress and go trick and treating in Afghanistan.

Is that just because you are my top scum?

[BrightEyedFish]

I am ok with this.
VOTE: chill

[BrightEyedFish]

EBWOP That's L-2

[BrightEyedFish]

Speed and counterwagon
Though the composition actually looks alright
Idk what deadline has to do with it

I'm not so sure now. My top 2 scum reads are on my 3rd scum read's wagon. Maybe they are trying to help PP.
I don't know, but maybe a little L-1 can push us along further.

VOTE: PenguinPower

[BrightEyedFish]

Speed and counterwagon
Though the composition actually looks alright
Idk what deadline has to do with it

I'm not so sure now. My top 2 scum reads are on my 3rd scum read's wagon. Maybe they are trying to help PP.
I don't know, but maybe a little L-1 can push us along further.

VOTE: PenguinPower

Blatant rolefishing + trying too hard to be consistent. BEF is scum.

Changing votes and trying to be consistent is not AI. I agree with Gamma about the speed of the counter wagon but I disagree with Gamma about the composition. You can argue either way with WIFOM if scum would be on the first wagon or if they would push a counter wagon.

[BrightEyedFish]

Speed and counterwagon
Though the composition actually looks alright
Idk what deadline has to do with it

I'm not so sure now. My top 2 scum reads are on my 3rd scum read's wagon. Maybe they are trying to help PP.
I don't know, but maybe a little L-1 can push us along further.

VOTE: PenguinPower

Blatant rolefishing + trying too hard to be consistent. BEF is scum.

Changing votes and trying to be consistent is not AI. I agree with Gamma about the speed of the counter wagon but I disagree with Gamma about the composition. You can argue either way with WIFOM if scum would be on the first wagon or if they would push a counter wagon.

That's AI though.

Well every post could be considered AI in that way. To clarify what I meant a vote/wagon switch is not necessarily a scum tell.

[BrightEyedFish]

A50 is just a sad sad man. I kind of feel bad for him.

[BrightEyedFish]

But that's neither here nor there. I'm happy with where my vote is at.

[BrightEyedFish]

Intent to

bloody

HAMMER.

the AP is slipping into you A50...

like I'm starting to imagine your posts on this account with a british accent.

I imagine A50s posts with a Trump accent.

[BrightEyedFish]

Tchill is still one of my scum reads so I'll put my vote back on him.
VOTE: tchill

[BrightEyedFish]

Of course that was also a reason, I won't deny that.

[BrightEyedFish]

BEF who even are these alleged scum reads

A50, tchill and nako