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[PenguinPower]

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VOTE: Radja

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I’ll send you my paypal.

Friends and family pls.

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Are you still trying to change your approach to day 1, Tchill?

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Why are you so sure?

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I find it amazing that anyone can say with certainty that someone else isn’t an alt absent those straight from the newbie queue.

Kokichi is probably scum right now. It’s a good way for me to start my reads.

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Tchill is probably town though I am a bit put off he didn’t answer me.

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Kokichi is probably scum right now. It’s a good way for me to start my reads.

Starting out wrong is a good thing?

Have I ever played a game with you where you ended up being town?

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VOTE: penguin

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As I said, I am fine sorting kokichi as scum as a baseline. His posting hasn't done anything to change that.

DDL hasn't done enough for me to form an opinion. I find nothing wrong with a wagon forming on him - though it is interesting that Tchill/Kokichi wagons didn't take off like DDL did.

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Can you further develop on the koki baseline, what makes koki's content enough to be called a scum baseline? you really think hes scum until proven otherwise, what makes you that confident so early on?

It's based on my previous games with him, not his content alone in this game. Though, he is starting out quite similar.

You say you don't have enough to read drdolittle, but you think its fine if people vote him.. isn't that a bit contradictory? Or do you acknowledge people could get genuine reads from content you deem insufficient personally?

How is that contradictory? Wagons by themselves provide information, and we are at the beginning of the game. I find nothing wrong with a wagon reaching L-1 in the first few pages, regardless of how I feel about the slot at the time. Hence my previous comment on the tchill/kokichi/ddl wagons.

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penguin needs to vote kokichi

I am.

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I could have sworn I did last night.

VOTE: Kokichi

[PenguinPower]

Oh, cool...twice as many posts as the last time I was here.

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VOTE: BEF

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Guys, Gamma is probably town.

Why is Gamma probably town?

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PenguinGifs

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Joey is town, don't forget that.

Oh, my. A stance.

Why?

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Koki hasn't exactly posted since the RVS phase ended btw. Also hes a much better player than you give him credit for, there's a reason why A50 and myself aren't outing reads on the guy as of yet, because he gets much easier to read the more you give him time. His alignment will be pretty transparent when town will need to vote correctly

o...i see.

[PenguinPower]

gamma's not reading tonight and its a cause for concern

Why? How is that different than standard gamma?

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here's 2 of me doing nothing all game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=77301
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=77250

Bad. Like...bad.

@Joey I'm just joking around dude.

If you took the time to link those 2 games, why didnt you take the time to find 2 relevant games

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Which ones? Seems like a weird reason.

Do some of their posts seem like coming from scum?

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I did not see any post coming from scum.

So it wasn't some of the posts not coming from scum, you thought all were coming from town?

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^UNLESS either is an alt, but I don't think they are.

Everyone is an alt.

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meh. spoilered posts don't really sell me on town!gamma over scum!gamma.

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I sometimes find it hard to get what you're doing exactly, but then many people feel the same about me.

Yeah...sometimes things I do are just for me later on. If you ever know exactly what I'm doing, let me know.

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Hmm...DDL wagon went away quickly.

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and kokichi

Why is Kokichi likely town?

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That’s it?

No and no. But that doesn’t make me put him in a “likely town” position. He’s made one stance as far as I’ve read. Null without prior meta at best.

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His main stance is that he has been volunteering to be the recipient of night actions

when does scum do that?

Seriously? I've seen it plenty depending on scum's role.

Here. While he didn't invite the investigation, he was able to use it to further his win.

That's not a good reason to put someone in "likely town."

[PenguinPower]

It's still early D1 so I'm not going to make a comparison at this point. I don't believe you read his entire play in that game either, so your comment is a bit premature.

@mod: V/LA until 12:00pm CST on 11/4

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Null without prior meta at best.

what did you mean with this btw? it seems like you have played together before

Thanks for reading:

Kokichi is probably scum right now. It’s a good way for me to start my reads.

Starting out wrong is a good thing?

Have I ever played a game with you where you ended up being town?

[PenguinPower]

My example was a game directly related to your comment on inviting the investigation...wow.

p-edit

I'm not sure what that would help? Help me understand your point.

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You can't directly quote a locked game, but iso 2-5, 7-17, and 19-24 all looks like a lot more engagement than what we've seen here and is tonally night and day

You can't? I mean, before I actually do I want to make sure that no one else can. Because I can.

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like, tbh, this guy looks easy af to read. if he isn't trying he's town, if he's pushy and aggressive he's scum. prove me wrong

I'm not going to prove you wrong because the guy has won games he should have lost as scum. And you picking and choosing quotes post game and saying "Oh, see, easy read" is dumb.

He's not a D1 lynch - which is why I've moved on - but your stance on him is asinine.

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You can't? I mean, before I actually do I want to make sure that no one else can. Because I can.

I cannot click the quote button and copy/paste that; it redirects me to a message saying the thread is locked. I could copy paste the plaintext but it would lose all formatting.

Then I won't, since it goes against normal abilities.

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Do you town read BEF?

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So it does.

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jfc...

kokichi, who do you scumread?

[PenguinPower]

Back among the world of the electronics, but it's late. I'll catch-up in the morning.

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@PP, in early game, you implied you've played with Tchill enough to have a sense of how he plays d1 as town. Do you still townread him? If so, can you explain your thought process on why, even though he is outside his town meta (if I understood your early game comments correctly) you nonetheless sort him as town here?

I actually think he is playing to his usual town meta right now. I asked if he was still trying to change it because - I believe it was a game I modded - he mentioned he was actively trying to change his approach to D1. However, starting with his self-vote he seems to be playing per usual (pushing slots he thinks are a risk to town whether poor play, lurker, or scummy and lamenting as to why D1 is not yet over).

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You can read my interaction with Dva from posts 566 through 594.

Don't really feel like re-explaining myself.

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Is this a fact?

Pretty much.

I'm not sure how saying I didn't want to re-explain is explaining though...

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Ok.

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O shit, penguingifs is transforming into penguinjpgs!

NOW WE HAVE SEEN HIS TRUE FORM

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Solid rationale, Gamma.

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What an interesting list.

You believe that I am hard townreading one scum buddy, voting another, and that one more potential is bussing me.

Why am I scum?

[PenguinPower]

Seems like PP is just coming in when mentioned at this point

I've been around all day. I didn't care much when Kokichi voted me because he thought he had something valid (even though I disagree). Dva and Noka both had scum reads to some level on me prior so makes sense. You're an idiot with your votes so it didn't really bother me.

Sephiroth is the first one that doesn't really make sense to me, so I'd like an explanation...especially since he "didn't get how it started."

[skitter30]

Aww...I wanted the pagetop.

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How do you think read lists work? Because that isn't how my read lists work. My 4 top srs on D1 are under no requirement of being scum together. In fact my reads change quite a bit come D2 most of the time.

As should because D1 sucks...but there should be some level of association in your mind, imo. Of course, I don't do readlists so whatever works for you.

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Oh wait no its not VOTE: PP

I think my head is spinning.

You have three other scumreads...voting me because I'm the largest wagon?

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I'm voting you because you're the current wagon and I wagoning is always a good thing to do

Fair enough. Me too.

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Like, should I create a counterwagon against one of my srs for a random different one? I'm not sure why anyone would actively undermine a wagon on a sr. I'm not sure what about this is hard to understand.

Nope. See above.

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Anyway, please claim and let's move on. Or maybe don't and just let the clock run and then get lynched at crunch time anyway. Looks like RC or no RC you're a vote magnet!!

Not sure what you're referring to with the RC thing, but...um...no. Get me to L-1 with intent and I will claim, else I will not.

Vaguely insulting I think, but you're hard to understand.

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p-sure Nako unvoted so try again.

Not sure what game you're referring to, but if you want to insult me based on one game, at least link it.

[PenguinPower]

What makes you think my vote isn’t serious

Apart from my love of gifs, why is your vote serious?

[PenguinPower]

One scum in Dva/Gamma/BEF.

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Why isnt pp lynched yet?

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Didn't you say you had reservation based on the fact that I didn't actually explain anything?

The gifs are a things regardless of my alignment...you should know that.

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Yea I did. The thing that swayed me was the gifs. And they may be NAI normally but the timing tells me something else.

What does the timing tell you? I've been using them since post one.

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I would be interested in you casing BEF tho

Dunno, thinking it might be Gamma.

I don't do cases though. Except maybe in MyLo/LyLo when needed.

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Do you not consider Gamma's push legit? Thats what I felt you implied when you acknowledged the point about explaining yourself, but was that kind of a joke?

No. I don't think it's real (see my questions).

Waiting for his response to my most recent question.

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You have been using them since post one but they were sprinkled in. After the meta point it was a rush of gifs.

Really?

Spoiler:

O shit, penguingifs is transforming into penguinjpgs!

NOW WE HAVE SEEN HIS TRUE FORM

Do you see something there that might relate them?

What a rush!

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Gamma

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Not for nothin PP but I can see how gamma would get that idea from your reaction to the wagon. I kind of remember it that way as well but maybe you were just posting more after not posting for a while.

I was v/la...

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hmmm

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BEF why am I scum?

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Broken unless opened in a new tab. Nice one though.

I can teach you the ways of the gif.

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Broken unless opened in a new tab. Nice one though.

I can teach you the ways of the gif.

Please teach me, Sensei.

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How can you scumread me? I'm just an innocent child.

I've created a monster.

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I also wanna say that I used to think PP was a lazy person, but posting gifs is not that easy. Kudos to PP.

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He's not.

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Agree.

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So it's either BFE or Gamma.

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PP's gif didn't expire though.

Seems I still have some things to teach you...

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UNVOTE:
I'm gonna wait until PP answers my question.

GIF question?

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Because they still hadn't teach me how to make gifs that don't disappear.

I mean...I'm not going to have you become the next me...

I don't typically play much on weekends, so I'll get to this tomorrow.

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Sorry, all. Peak season hit work a bit earlier than I expected. I'm back now though.

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VC wise this would make the most sense in that I think he has a pretty high scum equity with how things transpired yesterday + gives the most information with wagon dynamics cuz he got run up to L1 and had a sizeable mech-town following on his wagon.

Explain?

[PenguinPower]

I currently want to lynch within {Nako Oka Dva} pretty sure.

Why?

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I feel like hes gonna flake out based on his claims of catching up yesterday and now nothing almost 2 full days later =/

I'm not.

Yo where the fuck is PP

Real life.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Gamma

Why are we not voting here?

[PenguinPower]

6 people have claimed PR?

[PenguinPower]

So, I think there is a a lot I'm not going to get a good grasp on because I wasn't here. While I get kokichi and joey's ambivalence due to their claim, I don't like the aftermath From what I remember Joey is a 'in the moment' reader like me.

I'd really like to hear more from him in particular.

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VOTE COUNT 1.19

PenguinPower (6)

- Kokichi Oma, DVa, Gamma Emerald, Sephiroth, Tchill13, BrightEyedFish

Tchill13 (4)

- OkaPoka, Joey_, Almost50, Nako

Nako(2)

- DrDolittle, Mewtaph

BrightEyedFish (1)

- PenguinPower

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-12 11:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- DrDolittle is v/la until Friday
- i missed the pagetop

we have you at L1 here yet your wagon interestingly dissolved rather than having scum hard push you if you are town.

kokichi, tchill, bef all town so worst case scenario would be that Dva, gamma, sephiroth are the scumteam if you are town

but i dont see why scum wouldn't push you harder at L1 if your

(you're*)

town, thus for the sake of me wanting to see whether we might have a high scum concentration right there or your scum, i want to have ur

(even less grammatically correct)

flip.

That's actually a fair point. Doubt the entire scum team was on my wagon, but I was an easy lynch.

[PenguinPower]

6 people have claimed PR?

i dont think so?
3 by my count, others are hypo

I was skimming and saw 1780. That was incorrect?

[PenguinPower]

Can someone provide an alternative explanation to the PP wagon transpiring the way it did?

They felt they could push another mislynch and keep me alive for an easy mislynch later on for the way my wagon transpired?

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VOTE: Mew

[PenguinPower]

Why are you?

Stuff like this...

This actually feels dissonant. Concerned about lurker scum, but going to lurk himself?

Oh, I'm voting oka, but shading mew...

You don't seem to have a firm stance on anything.

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I guess that's possible and opens some other doors, but do you think that your explanation is more likely than my explanation(s)?

I don't think it is any more or less likely. But, if it was the scenario, the worst case is that my lynch goes through and they still get a mislynch.

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I think the only way your scenario ends up working is if we have 3 Deep scum that have no chance of getting lynched yesterday.

Who were all the serious wagons yesterday?

Me, tchill, BEF, Kokichi, and DDL...

It was really between me, tchill, and BEF and Kokichi and DDL were early D1 wagons.

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It was really between me, tchill, and BEF as Kokichi and DDL were early D1 wagons.

EBWOP

I hate having edit powers and not being able to use them.

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I literally post that and you now scum read me.

Can we pls lynch this?

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Not feeling him sneaking that vote in while not talking about me.

Really?

Oh, I'm voting oka, but shading mew...

[PenguinPower]

Kokichi fake claimed?



I feel my point brought up on D1 may be relevant after all.

[PenguinPower]

Joey accepted. Kokichi made the claim as he was getting run up.

[PenguinPower]

Butchered it, more like.

not even a gif

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Now I’d like to warn everyone that whether or not the claim was gone along with by the claimants is NOT grounds for a lock read.

I'm having a hard time parsing your meaning here. Explain more clearly pls.

[PenguinPower]

Ok...so referring to Joey's slot.

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I feel like I've played with ofrhz before, but I'm not sure...

[PenguinPower]

Ego search says....no. I have not.

[PenguinPower]

hi

this game looks hilarious

[PenguinPower]

Bah @ A50 for making me have to quote...

[PenguinPower]

DDL was a wagon early game that went no where. Kokichi was a wagon that went to L-2 and he claimed mason with your slot, which your slot confirmed. Wagon dissipates. BEF wagon builds, PP wagons builds, A50/Seph makes lot of noise, PP wagon goes away, Tchill and BEF become competing wagons, Tchill gets lynched. VT.

BEF is killed N1. Flips VT.

There are claims today. Wagon theory. Your slot says you aren't actually mason with Kokichi and replaces out. Here we are.

[PenguinPower]

I wish I had the talent to make penguin gifs; but, alas, I do not. I have run out, and in an effort to not become stale, have branched out to regular gifs.

Beats degrading myself by moving to jpegs.

p-edit

@DVa

[PenguinPower]

Kokichi claimed at L-2

[PenguinPower]

I'm voting mew because I don't like gamma and he is shading mew but not voting him, but people think gamma is town.

Of course, I also don't like kokichi anymore.

[PenguinPower]

please continue spamming gifs in the meantime thanks

I might take some time and recharge my power cells :3

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Says the guy who admittedly doesn't do anything as scum, and fake claimed mason and hasn't done anything...

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My only hesitance right now is that you actually did more with your fake claim as scum One-Shot.

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Says the guy who admittedly doesn't do anything as scum

rofl what? fake news. sad!

Actually I dont do jack shit when I'm scum, which is why people say that's my meta. So you're talking to the wrong person

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Yeah, then just say that you do shit as scum. Double negatives are confusing.

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Translation would be: "I do not do nothing as scum" if you translate the expletive, making it a double negative you pedant...of course now I am one too.

Why is that what you are coming in here to commentate on?

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I think especially D2 he’s picked up the pace

How do you think he's picked up the pace?

2/3 of his posts are from D1...

[PenguinPower]

Hi. I don’t really play on weekends (saying this again).

To answer setup spec on this page, implosion/Mastina almost always include a town role that a gs will get a positive on.

Guess that’s more than a prodge.

More in the morning.

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VOTE: DDL

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Are we really not lynching Kokichi though?

I would prefer to, but it doesn't look like that has support.

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VOTE: DDL

You are seriously voting a claimed TPR

Yeah.

[PenguinPower]

I'm not lynching me. I don't think Oka is scum.

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Kokichi and Gamma.

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pagetop skitter...boom.

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I mean, I've made my stance pretty clear on Gamma. I don't think he really believes anything he is saying.

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Spoiler: Gamma from PP ISO

VOTE: PenguinPower
Okay this is approaching lolcat territory

Yea I did. The thing that swayed me was the gifs. And they may be NAI normally but the timing tells me something else.

What does the timing tell you? I've been using them since post one.

You have been using them since post one but they were sprinkled in. After the meta point it was a rush of gifs.

Really?

Spoiler:

O shit, penguingifs is transforming into penguinjpgs!

NOW WE HAVE SEEN HIS TRUE FORM

Do you see something there that might relate them?

What a rush!

Why are you?

Stuff like this...

This actually feels dissonant. Concerned about lurker scum, but going to lurk himself?

Oh, I'm voting oka, but shading mew...

You don't seem to have a firm stance on anything.

Not feeling him sneaking that vote in while not talking about me.

Really?

Oh, I'm voting oka, but shading mew...

I think especially D2 he’s picked up the pace

How do you think he's picked up the pace?

2/3 of his posts are from D1...

Here are some of his things that I didn't like from my ISO. I'm not going to case him, so you can view his posts in response if you want.

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Skitter, can edit that to make it readable?

[PenguinPower]

I mean...I can, but....

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Maybe if you guys are more comfortable with Mew, I can lynch them.

My Mew read is mostly based on how Gamma treated the slot. Not a favored lynch right now.

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So, if Mew flips scum you'd TR Gamma??

Where do you get this? I said Gamma was shading Mew without voting him. If Mew flips scum, I would more strongly scumread Gamma.

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Nako...vary the gifs.

You're doing great. Just...variation is good.

[PenguinPower]

Nako...vary the gifs.

You're doing great. Just...variation is good.

I'm sorry, there are not really much gifs I can find.

I have learned to create my own.

[PenguinPower]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone...I'll be here tomorrow.

[PenguinPower]

Sorry - back from a long Thanksgiving.

Catching up.

[PenguinPower]

All you need to do now is claim so we can move on to Kokichi

vt

kokichi

[PenguinPower]

It's

Ya

buki dayo.

[PenguinPower]

It's

Ya

buki dayo.

oops

[PenguinPower]

3) pp's reentrance into this game was really lackluster. he showed up, claimed, made a few jokes and then left.

What do you expect me to do? We've massclaimed with no obvious counterclaims, and I'm a vt. The game has become a mechanics and VCA discussion...and I really have nothing to add that will actually end up having any impact.

I can gif more. I'm good at that.

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Do you agree with action dump on Oka, who would you suggest to vig, and who do you think would be a better lynch for today than yourself?

I'd rather lynch Kokichi and, if he is town, shoot me. If he's scum, shoot A50.

What is an action dump?

you can present cases on other people, help us find scum or participate in discussions

I don't do cases.

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Sure. I'm good with that.

[PenguinPower]

That setup could result in a D2 win for town perfectly played without a scum doctor or roleblocker/jailkeeper.

[PenguinPower]

mastina and implosion means probably balanced though. Doubt there is 4 scum in any sense in a 13p.

p-edit

I don't believe that's the case.

[PenguinPower]

so then the next question is, is it possible for there only to be two town PRs?

Highly unlikely as even in a 2 scum setup (in the past 10 games in the normal archives) there are 4 games with 2 scum and they all had more than 2 Town PRs.

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Yes, of course there is. Look at the Newbie Games. 2 TPRs vs 0-1 Scum PRs. Add 4 players (1 of which is scum) and you can add a weak Scum TPR (Doctor) vs 3 VTs. No problem.

Possible in theory, but I can't find a recent setup that has made it through the review process, and this is a pre-designed by the NRG.

Most likely 3-4.

p-edit:

This is why I don't really care once it become mechanical...

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Then you haven't read what I've said about Kokichi at all.

[PenguinPower]

Then you haven't read what I've said about Kokichi at all.

but I have

Then I don't get why you don't get my stance.

Clarify for me.

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VOTE: Mew

then

[PenguinPower]

Why did you ignore Oka on your Voyeur target?

[PenguinPower]

Why did you ignore Oka on your Voyeur target?

...scumslip...?
I think Seph probably needs death too

Why is that a scumslip?

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Also, why not vote Seph then?

[PenguinPower]

What?

Oka asked for a claimed PR's action, and Dva ignores it and continues to throw a tantrum which he then admits is a tantrum. How does that come across as "Oka is my buddy?"

[PenguinPower]

Trying to decide if Seph claims first or if I care enough to wait

Hi...people are talking to you. Do you care to respond?

[PenguinPower]

Ah. Ok.

[PenguinPower]

I didn't quick hammer?

[PenguinPower]

lynch mew

town mew = vig a50
scum mew = vig pp

lynch seph if not confirmed

This was the plan for multiple people...which is why I'm saying you're having a tantrum today.

[PenguinPower]

I know you wanted Gamma like all game so why are you entering today seeming indifferent to his l-1 when he was not the one getting lynched like you were?

When did Gamma get to L-1?

[PenguinPower]

Have I played with you before?

[PenguinPower]

Sorry. Work has been slammed unexpectedly the past two days. I’ll get to this in the morning.

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Interesting that Koki wasn't the kill

Not sure why you think I'm scum now Nako

So Koki was cleared by Gunsmith so if the only result A50 got was on a scum doctor I think we just lose

Hmm...

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If {PP, Gamma} doesn't have a scum though I will tiltreplace out if game isn't over by that point tho

That EoD was fucking gross

Nako and Koki are my only townreads at this point

Hmm...

[PenguinPower]

Like Penguin thought it was Gamma and Gamma thought it was Penguin but they never really fucking pushed each other at all, they've just been distancing all game

Have you seriously pushed me? I mean, you have said I was the lynch almost every day...but...did you really push me?

Hmm...

[PenguinPower]

Not sure where you're getting that...but, I'm more curious to hear from Kokichi right now.

p-edit

The distancing comment you made.

[PenguinPower]

Can you like...step back from posting a bit?

p-edit

jesus

[PenguinPower]

More for me when I actually catch up in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

My thoughts are that I’ve been busier this week at work than any other year in the past 7. I’ll be here Saturday to read.

[PenguinPower]

At work. But, I get a lunch break this week so I'm here now for about an hour.

[PenguinPower]

PP, I have a busy schedule with award ceremonies and stuff, I hope you are not slowrolling here.

That is totally something I would do.

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Ok. Lunch is almost over.

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VOTE: Gamma

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He was not.

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Not at the moment. You?

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Oh...I meant compelling reasons why you are Town and Nako scum...

What did Nako say that baffled you?

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Nako, I have a busy schedule with award ceremonies and stuff, I hope you are not slowrolling here.

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That setup could result in a D2 win for town perfectly played without a scum doctor or roleblocker/jailkeeper.

Sorry forgot to add in the part that I also hate this post

tbf, it's not incorrect so I don't see why you hate it.

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I would do neither as scum. If you think I'm scum, hammer.

I'm going to read to my kids, and I'll be back in 20min, but don't expect me to do a long point-by-point response.

p-edit

I mean...on face value, in direct response to what it was responding to, it is not incorrect...sheesh.

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Is GS+JK+Vig+Voyeur that unbalanced? no way for scum to have enough firepower to overcome that combo?

That setup could result in a D2 win for town perfectly played without a scum doctor or roleblocker/jailkeeper.

It was a direct response to a question about scum's firepower to overcome the proposed setup. It wasn't a reference to the actuality of our setup.

I'm going to need a minute to re-read Nako because I didn't think she was scum.

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Oh, ok.

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Yeah, no, I read back through Nako ISO. Nako is right.

VOTE: PP

0% chance of pulling this one out.

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Severe missteps on me and Gamma's part...should have pushed back a bit more.

gg.

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I am proud of your gif skills, Nako. Well done.

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gg

Very strong game. Well done.

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Sorry for real life, Gamma. Disappointed in your dead thread talk.

Take the loss as a team.

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i'll give scum ~48 hours to redact anything or whatever and then i'll open it

I'm good with releasing as is.