Mini Normal 2041 [Game Over]

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hi

this game looks hilarious

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Can someone give me the tldr of this game? Realistically speaking, I won't be caught up until end of this weekend

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You guys think the tchill wagon was all town? or is there another reason why mew and oka are the leading wagons

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Kokichi fakeclaimed mason with your slot d1 and your slot accepted, and then retracted today.

lmao this may or may not have been the primary reason I replaced into this game

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wait BEF was nightkilled at VT? wtf?

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you know what, I'm just going to read

please continue spamming gifs in the meantime thanks

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Do you have any recent scumgames Mew?

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DVa, do you have a read on Kokichi?

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Kokichi do you know how to correctly play mason in a mafia game? This is not it.

What's the correct way, o mighty one

Stop shit posting to bolster your ability to do jack shit when you do roll mafia so you can win games doing nothing because "I can do that as town too". It's

really

transparent.

Actually I dont do jack shit when I'm scum, which is why people say that's my meta. So you're talking to the wrong person

Kokichi, can you link me a towngame where you've provided this sort of defense?

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Gamma, I don’t like this slot. I just don't think it's town here. Feels like he's voting the convienient wagon, and his reasons for it is either nonexistent or garbage. I know some of you put gamma high on the town list... can you give me a hint why?

1616 A50 says gamma is town. I think I tentatively can go off his read on this, especially if no one is CCing. I town read A50.

A50 claims to have investigated Mew, not Gamma. Why did you drop your SR, even if only tentatively, just because the likely TPR said so? If you’re town, then shouldn’t your reads be equally as valid as A50’s?

In your last towngame (Mini 2023) with (scum)Gamma, you also correctly scumread him and had him as a SR for most of the game, which makes this progression even more strange.

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Mew, what's your read on DDL?

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relevant ones in order of towniness:

nako
kokichi
dva

a50 im not sure anymore

Why is kokichi so high

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Mew, what's your read on DDL?

This is an odd question to ask me if you're trying to sort me directly so

I guess you just want me to lock in my DDL read?

I guess I can be more specific with my question. I asked because you were scumreading OkaPoka and DVa for "baiting out information"

But DDL later also asked you to claim ascetic/non-ascetic during his catchup and thought it was suspicious that you were taking so long to claim, and you didn't seem to react to that.

I also thought DDL's read on you was lazy. He had you as unsorted at the end of D1, and then later in D2, townread you based on "tone," which is actually really odd because I don't think DDL is a tonereader. He basically soft defended you to further his case on OkaPoka.

Regarding the bolded: what

I think DDL is a bad lynch simply because I think people's reasons for scumreading him aren't really indicative of him being scum. In terms of his general tone and responses to things, I think it's more likely to come from town. Now some people might just push the lynch on DDL through anyway because he's been wagoned before and so it's easier to get that lynch through and town are lazy and want to do scum's job for them (make mislynches out of misinterpreting townie behaviour), but I wouldn't be overtly shocked if DDL flipped town. Like a lot of his reasonings feel similar to mine and I'm not concerned about that being an attempt to match up with mine, I think that they are just his thoughts.

Spoiler:

Here are a couple posts looking back on his ISO that I liked.

Seph is a strong TR because he is actually providing some content and even a full read list already. I wanted to poke him in the nose for the messed up vote, but then felt other players won't understand and might think it a distraction, so I held myself back.

Ok so I'm pretty sure A50 is town. You don't pull blatantly crappy reads like this from scum

this is not a reason btw

I say I strong TR him for this and you tell me it's not a reason? I've just finished playing a game with the dude. I mean, he himself admits to being good at scum, but I have seen nothing to make me feel he's being deceptive at any rate so far in here.

1 not doing anything deceptive != your strongest town read.
2 unless you think seph-scum is blatant on not providing content early game, your strongest town read is also unjustified. + that would make him a shitty scum player.

these two games are close in time enough such that it shouldn't be drastically different in terms of time.

perusing the posts, it seems that tchill in the town
"in a general since a lynch day 1 has the most likelihood of hitting town. I'd be willing to bet town usually talk themselves out of lynching scum more than they talk themselves into lynching scum day 1. I usually have no preference unless i feel comfortable with my ability to read certain players or unless somehow someone lands in my "will always be suspicious of" list day 1. "
"Typical day 1. Nobody wants to lynch anybody lol. If we wagon every single player then honestly there's no reason to wagon anyone at all. Feel free to do so though."
"Will lynch today: literally anyone not in the above list." (list of 5 players)
"Please let us just lynch somebody. "

town tchill has one-hit wonders like
"every townie is expendable until from my own perspective have a reason to not vote them. "
"pg 20 should be the d1 limit."
"Scum is in a great spot. Thread is bogged down. We don't want to deal with low activity players. We can't decide on a lynch. This is why day 1 lynches don't matter."

god i hate meta dives. But here's my read. Scum tchill is less abrasive about hating day 1 then town tchill. But otherwise, not likin day 1 is not very alignment indicative.

Reads more like he's trying to figure out the game and sorting what strikes him as odd or otherwise important to the game state. His posts aren't overly flashy which makes me more confident that they are just going to flip town rather than scum.

Like the people that did the wagoning on tchill13 or did all the D1 active posting or whatever are just being lazy on trying to sort each other so my best guess is that we're going to land on DDL today because whoever the town is in that group can't be bothered to lift a finger so the rest of us get left in the cold.

About the post in the spoiler, I thought the first post was pretty good.

Second post read more like busywork - the point of contention at the time wasn't whether or not Tchill hates D1; I think everyone agreed that Tchill hates D1 as town. The discussion was around whether or not this level of (lack of) content was within his townrange.

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tell me why would town fake-claim mason?

my read on you before was lean-scum, but willing to defer to joey for read.

This doesn't really answer why but town has fakeclaimed mason before

Also joey is no longer in the game. You get me instead ;_;

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DDL, why did you want Mew to confirm if he was ascetic?

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If DDL is really the jk who jailkept A50, then I'm confused why neither this slot nor Kokichi were killed last night, since this throws out the "mason was protected and BEF was vigged" theory.

I'm just not sure I believe DDL's claim atm

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@DVa @offrhz where are you guys going to put your votes?

VOTE: DDL

I’d also be willing to vote Kokichi