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VOTE: bji
you have the shortest name
what are you hiding

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now let me stop you right diddly darn there partner
cool profile pic

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i came here to have a good time and i am honestly feeling so attacked right now
they ask you how you are and you have to say you're fine but you're not fine

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i, giorno giovanna, have a dream

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shut the fuck up giorno -abbacchio

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the real silver chariot requiem

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come on lets get some activity going
i can't be the most active person here
that means i have to lead
and leading is effort

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VOTE: texdoeshalo

policy lynch on basis of skipping the queue

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guys i spilled soda all over myself someone get a towel

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alright come on guys don't disappoint me

someone incriminate themselves already

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jeez, i guess i'll do the work

@everyone, what's your favourite book
lets talk about

something

at least

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glad someone's talking

just sash, i believe

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oh hell yeah it was a high quality game even though i was dragged along by scum for half of it

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both, my dear

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i dont feel like saying more than i need to
also you didn't answer my book question which makes me sad

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he was town, he and another person played really well throughout day 4 to win the game for us

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hm, well, i meant that they had a clutch moment where they almost threw but then 180 saved the game but;

i guess playing well as town is simply being trustworthy and leading while being aggressive towards anything that seems off
i'm not very good at town myself so i tend to play for self-preservation but i'm looking to change that somewhat

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If you are not good as town, are you good as scum?

wouldn't know, haven't gotten enough scum games in yet

Which aspect of good town play are you specifically not good at? a) Being trustworthy, b) leading, or c) being aggressive towards anything that seems off?

tempted to say all of the above but i'm gonna go with b)

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@everyone, what's your favourite book

Wheel of Time, by Robert Jordan.

Playing with you was fun too!

ooh i've been meaning to read that, haven't found the time

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Do you think that Clemency has a weak town game?

This is my 7th game only, so take my word for it's worth. I don't see her play as weak, because those scums were really good in last game. In fact I've seen weak players and Clem is not one of them.

aww you're just fluffing me up

Clemency -- is your pronoun 'he' or 'she'? Does it matter to you?

100% doesn't matter but technically it's he
just use whatever seems cool to you

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i believe in you, buddy

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haha, fuck off
VOTE: bji

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By the way according to my reading that's 3 votes for Clemency, so next vote puts him at L-1.

two can play at the same game:
notice how our subject uses the word "according"
by this we can make the assumption that this person doesn't have the best family life, and they have inadequate genitals
i will now continue to tunnel this player for the rest of the game off of this pure undeniable fact

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sigh, you want a defense?

"he wouldn't complain at the beginning about feeling like he has to lead." assumption.
"And if he was going to complain, it would probably be more along the lines of "i have to lead and leading is not my strong suit" than "i have to lead and leading is effort" assumption.
"I hereby state that Clemency is scum playing a chatty opener." assumption.
you've written the narrative for yourself, and you're not gonna drop it until i'm dead
i know how this goes

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I'm just a townie taking a leadership role while being aggressive towards anything that seems off ... why you voting for your top town read Clemency?

"oh man i hate it when people get aggressive"
"oh also lets be a smartass"

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But would you complain about having to lead if you knew that was your weakest skill as a townie?

what? yeah? obviously?

Also do you believe it is reasonable to see a chatty opener as a potential scumtell?[/quote]
talking is alignment indicative now got it

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and people wonder why i tend to lurk day 1

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come on lets get some activity going
i can't be the most active person here
that means

i have to lead
and leading is effort

hm, well, i meant that they had a clutch moment where they almost threw but then 180 saved the game but;

i guess playing well as town is simply being trustworthy and leading while being aggressive towards anything that seems off

i'm not very good at town myself

so i tend to play for self-preservation but

i'm looking to change that somewhat

If you are not good as town, are you good as scum?

wouldn't know, haven't gotten enough scum games in yet

Which aspect of good town play are you specifically not good at? a) Being trustworthy, b) leading, or c) being aggressive towards anything that seems off?

tempted to say all of the above but i'm gonna go with b

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Anyone else notice the lack of coherency here?

Clemency first complains about potentially having to lead, then later says that he is looking to change his weak townie game, and then admits that leading is his worst townie trait.

Seems that if Clemency wanted to get better as townie and his worst townie trait was leadership, he wouldn't complain at the beginning about feeling like he has to lead. And if he was going to complain, it would probably be more along the lines of "i have to lead and leading is not my strong suit" than "i have to lead and leading is effort".

I hereby state that Clemency is scum playing a chatty opener.

VOTE: Clemency

you see this type of stuff just really pisses me off
you have nothing to go off of so you just pull shit out of thin air but you write this narrative that gets put into everyone's head
there's no defense i can make to this that will make me sound any less scummy but if i say nothing you're just gonna brand me as a lurker and have me lynched anyway

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But would you complain about having to lead if you knew that was your weakest skill as a townie?

what? yeah? obviously?

Also do you believe it is reasonable to see a chatty opener as a potential scumtell?

talking is alignment indicative now got it

Not what I was implying. I was wondering what you thought[/quote]

sorry i'm just pissed off since this shit happens every game
i don't believe anything in rvs or near it is a scumtell ever

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sorry i'm just pissed off since this shit happens every game
i don't believe anything in rvs or near it is a scumtell ever

What shit happens every game?

Scumhunting? You might want to play a different game then ...

For what it's worth, I think that rvs is generally to be ignored but I have definitely seen chatty scum openers and called them in the past. In my limited experience it comes mostly from newbie scum though, those who haven't played scum much or ever and for whom the concept of having to open a game as scum leads to nervous chatter.

tunneling.
stop being a smartass

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"rvs is generally to be ignored"
yet you're so sure about it you're willing to put me to l-2

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i'm just really frustrated because it feels like whenever i enter a game it's 50/50 for whether i actually get to play or whether someone writes a wall of text about me on the second page like they know every single one of my habits and mannerisms

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legit this is why i came to normals from newbies in the first place
because everyone in newbies is such a hardass and the game is ironically 10x harder there

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yeah, i liked you but when i see stuff like #56 my eyes go red and i just /replace out of everything because i dont wanna deal with that crap

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not to say that i'm against scumhunting, i'm against baseless scumhunting and assumptions;
i generally ignore everyone's reads up till about 300 posts in

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yeah i guess i'm still hung over my first experience where this thing happened and carried all the way to me being lynched

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i'd say i haven't
i at least haven't played off this site so

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yeah, i believe you
sorry 'bout that
i was really hoping this game would go like my last one where people mostly let me slide
then again that last game had not_mafia in it so i was hamilton in comparison

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bef is probably town but other than that anything i would say would be disingenuous

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bji

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got mixed up since last player got shortened down to a three letter name starting with b

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last player last game*
i'm a mess

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Aren't we all lol

I would agree with bji being a townlean as of now. I have mixed feelings on your slot as I mentioned before.

@sash and reaper
Either of you have any thoughts on the bji/clemency exchange?

More than likely T v T. I think Clemency has a play style that sometimes leads to just what happened earlier. Not an indictment, just an observation.

finally someone other than me says it

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yeah sorry i jumped the gun too much
honestly this was even a bit reasonable compared to the stuff i've seen

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welp, that's life

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again, sorry for that, immature of me

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i just wanna return to my quiet life where i shitpost and lurk
bitez za dusto

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guess i should take this game more serious than usual since none of my shitpost crusaders are here

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its ok just pretend you policy lynched him and skipped night 1

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its gonna be one of these games huh

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nah i'm just saying my last game felt a lot more laid back and everyone seemed to enjoy it more
i genuinely don't pay attention to how i word things so there's always a lot of "haha, gotcha! you said this thing this way instead of that thing that way" moments

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not that i mind a little competitiveness, of course
just dont expect me to write essays

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ah well i'm sure i'll get more competitive overtime too

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ow i just got a massive headache

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i'm not entirely sure
i have a bad habit of being naïve towards people who are nice to me/defend me

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i'll give it a more thorough read once i'm home and not phoneposting

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aggressive

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i'm here, i'm reading, i just don't say anything when i don't have anything to say
this doesn't feel like the air where i can joke around so i'm gonna try to bring original thought to the table once i have some

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hey guys




penis

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peak of modern humour

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oh boy no need for aggression
i'll buy y'all icecream

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that's L-1 btw

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proddodge

became unexpectedly busy recently

i'll try to get my head around this game once im home thanks

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sometimes life just be that way

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sorry i'm trying to not die from sleep deprivation so i'm using this weekend to recover
there's a lot of walls and i really don't have the energy to read them

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oh shit i've always wanted to play with creature
my friend hyped him up when he first got me to join mafiascum

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not gonna lie i'm with the 'phant on this one
VOTE: Reaper

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oh jesus nvm UNVOTE:
i'm not leaving my vote on l-1 right before sleeping

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okay someone put their vote on reaper for me
thanks hun you're a sweetheart

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either way i want him to have to talk more

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aw, i kinda wanna be more serious and confrontational too but i just lack the skills to do that and i don't wanna make a fool of myself
now to read your essay

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welp i'm just gonna keep sheeping the confident players
i can't really refute #353
UNVOTE: Reaper
VOTE: Creature

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imagine being straight in 2018

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oh boy lets not get political

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Heh better return to the game

Still glad I'm not the only one against the general leftism.

i'm pretty left-leaning myself and i totally agree

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Clemency I dunno what is she doing

you're making the mistake of assuming even i know what i'm doing
UNVOTE:

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VOTE: tex
why not

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the poor soul that has to play the tex slot

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so tldr elephant good or elephant bad?

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because tex was a replacement himself for another inactive player

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well the first one seems like you're quite sure of your point even though it's fairly reachy, and the people in this game should know how i feel about reaches

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i'm very open about the fact that i'm way too spammy and produce no real content, while it's not intentional i try to be transparent about it
i'm open to any pushes towards me though, i'd love to hear out your points and refute them as i see fit
i'm ready to actually play now thanks

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hey look it's those things i wanted to say but was too dumb to formulate in a smart way
thanks bji
owe you one

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inb4 buddying

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bit harsh to call for a lynching based on playstyle, innit?

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i'm heartbroken

after all our time together

i'm happy to go on the wagon that isn't mine though thanksVOTE: creature

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haha that's nonsense

i'm sheeping to get pressure off me

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yeah true but that scares me and i don't wanna get murderkilled

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He's consistent here, except there are two posts I find weird: 122 and 179 sounds like he'll act different, but he doesn't seem to imho.

haha that's because i have serious self-discipline problems help

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yeah true but that scares me and i don't wanna get murderkilled

You likely will eat a lynch D2 if you keep voting me the way you are

that's a good point
wanna debase the guy attacking us
inb4 "scumslip"

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he said he'll do iso reads sometime soon
maybe we'll get somewhere

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oh deer

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Sashaddin - when you wrote the above, did you expect Clem to play the game as he has played it?

Has he played it like you would expect him to if he were town?

Well yeah, when people want to experiment other play styles here they create another account to preserve their meta. Or sorry if I didn't understand the question well.

I don't get what you are saying here. Are you saying that when you played Clem previously he was using a different account? And that the Clem account is using a different play style than his other account?

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he means i'm playing similar to my last game

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fuck

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hey i'm taking this game super serious

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it's just that a bunch of nothing is happening

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what's a pbpa

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oh so like an iso but pedantic

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it's just that a bunch of nothing is happening

I think you are not reading hard enough. Is there going to be a point in the game where you do start reading hard enough? Just give us a warning when it's about to happen ... so I don't go into cardiac arrest from the shock ...

jokes on you

i can't read

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UNVOTE:

I checked prior games of Clem, 2 town and 1 scum. Scum game he posted very infrequently and then replaced out. Town games read much like this one, including one very specific item.

hey best buddy could you specify what that item is so i can absorb it into my gameplay

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aw come on buddy old pal old friend old chum
you can trust a friendly friend like me
remember all those memories we have together
like when you voted me

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dang that came outta left field

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wow loud's a modifier i've never seen before
VOTE: garmr
garmr smells

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wow loud's a modifier i've never seen before
VOTE: garmr
garmr smells

Can you use a better term.

garmr stinks

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persivul did you crumb

No. Crumbing roles is stupid. Scum can do it as easily as town.

the tone of this felt angry
clearing reaper is towny, that's true

clemency, garmr is a very bad vote.

and why's that

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okay two people gave me a slap on the hands i'm retracting my vote
UNVOTE:

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yeah well i suck at backing up my votes with words
it just felt like garmr came into day 2 with a sort of un-natural air
i'd have to do some rereading to give you more than just gut though

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um
VOTE: garmr

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what am i reading rn

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i just voted for pressure i had no intent to lynch this is great

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we can use our time wisely
garmr's vote is already on himself so we don't need to worry about quickhammer

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oh no i'm awful at lylo

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you had one job

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whoah i didn't actually know about multi-person iso's

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Split(2018)

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also
Fight Club(1999)

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UNVOTE:

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my energy fluctuates from thread to thread based on entertainment value
i am an enigma
also it's
[scum]sash/bji/you[town] on the ol' radar

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i came here to have a good time and i am honestly feeling so attacked right now
they ask you how you are and you have to say you're fine but you're not fine

JOJO

Arc 5 is my fave arc I been waiting for so long to see it animated.

Clem was posturing as feeling under attack and instead of pressing the attack Garmr defused the pressure by starting to talk about anime or whatever that was. It was RVS though so maybe means nothing.

those are both quotes from memes and my pfp is from arc 5 of jojo's

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just felt like clarifying

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i have to admit i don't see why you're picking sash over me either

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i have to admit i don't see why you're picking sash over me either

Why, what's the case against you?

...good point

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vt

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i can't mention games onsite so i'll say it here too; i'm having major burnout rn and some irl stuff is catching up to me
i know you guys probably don't see me as the most serious ever but i'll try to give my thoughts in-depth by around tomorrow

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i'm here
i'm queer
i'm ready to play
what do y'all need

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Do you think that Clemency has a weak town game?

This is my 7th game only, so take my word for it's worth. I don't see her play as weak, because those scums were really good in last game. In fact I've seen weak players and Clem is not one of them.

What game are you referencing?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77634

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i'm here
i'm queer
i'm ready to play
what do y'all need

Required - give reads and reasons for all players
Optional - vote Irrel

sash - i had my doubts in day 2 but i realise now that's because i was just mentally sheeping the game and not paying much attention, i think it's actually fairly likely for him to be town this game
bji - similarly likely town, though i have a hard time reading through all his posts sometimes
irrel - yeah i'll sheep you there ngl
if it's not irrel i'd say sash next
VOTE: irrelephant
i'll try and verbalize my reasons behind it gimme a moment

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how much does it take to lynch today i'm too lazy to maths

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i'm having trouble focusing in general today
i should sleep more than 6h regularly

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that's not a very good idea brotherman

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eh fair
that's the downside i guess
i play like this because i'm 10x worse at playing full serious

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i was heavily considering making an alt where i play full serious

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yeah i don't blame you for considering me over sash

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i mean i'm just really wondering on why garmr would lie about his motion detect target when he actually was a scum motion detector
was that like a bus attempt or what

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i was wondering whether i had to revote or something

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when exactly do you mean?

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welp, gg i guess
great scum game by bji, i can't really refute something like that

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sorry that i sucked so much this game

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okay it's sash
VOTE: sashaddin

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bji didn't quickhammer and is therefore town = sash scum

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hey nice we won
unless you're scum
but you wouldn't have any need to act this out if you were so
hey nice we won

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Also Clem what was post 904? I almost lynched you for that. Read like a scum slip, meant to be posted in the scum daytalk thread but accidentally posted in the game thread. But I decided to ignore it.

it was a joke response to 903

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Also why the fuck did Clem and Sash complain all game about not having time to play or energy to play and then go off and join another game two weeks ago?

i make awful decisions

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dab