Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

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Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

Reactions? Go.

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VOTE: Varsoon

For tunneling me as town vs town in that newbie game we recently finished.

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is scum. Let’s power lynch this, and get the night off to some killings fast.

VOTE: Pinntruchio

It’s probable that I have a role that requires for me to be shot at night.

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Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

Reactions? Go.

Imma cop you >=[

Wouldn’t expect anything less.

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Alright, Pinn, let’s work together. You can be my mason buddy if you want this game.

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I'm sick. I'll either be here a lot...or not at all. We'll see. Have fun kids.

Nice setup of using you being sick as a potential alibi for coasting!

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Alright, Pinn, let’s work together. You can be my mason buddy if you want this game.

He's scumslipping all over the place.

Yeah, I tend to accidentally fake mason claim with scum.

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Let's get to the real question. Why are you so active?

It’ll probably settle down eventually. I just happened to be online doing nothing when the game started.

I haven’t been doing much lately.

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Yeah, it’s funny how all 5 of us on the scum team were the first ones to show up this game.

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Let's get to the real question. Why are you so active?

It’ll probably settle down eventually. I just happened to be online doing nothing when the game started.

I haven’t been doing much lately.

Nice setup of using your unbusy schedule for hyper posting and looking towny!

I’m looking towny?

I’m not trying to. I’m trying to look scummy tbh. I need to get shot tonight.

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Yeah, it’s funny how all 5 of us on the scum team were the first ones to show up this game.

erm scum slip, 6 posters (7 inc mod) on this page dude

Oh, I knew it. But we’re a 5 man scum team. Not 6.

Which one not posting on that page isn’t scum? That’s the question.

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I already am. POWER LYNCH PINTRUCHIO!!!!

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I feel like some of you missed the part where like 5 people in the signup thread asked for a chill game.

-Cerb

I’ll chill out.

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Goodbye, Snivy. I’ll miss you.

VOTE: Hebichan

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VOTE: Pinntruchio

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Were those recently?

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I've played with Hebi a bit.

Probably did on Boonskiies, though.

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Goodbye, Snivy. I’ll miss you.

VOTE: Hebichan

VOTE: Pinntruchio

Flavor what changed between these two votes?

She didn’t want to die early, and I’m a sucker for AtE.

Plus, I like looking at her avatar. It’s cute.

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Back to RVS. We’re in an OMGUS war, I thought

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If I remember correctly, I was the IC for a newbie game of yours, right?

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Anytime I see that avatar, I feel like I'm Josh Hutcherson from Bridge to Terebithia.

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I can't find any games I've played with Hebichan, but I know I've played with her because of the avatar. I'm searching through all my past games. I don't think I've just admired from afar...?

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I can't find any games I've played with Hebichan, but I know I've played with her because of the avatar. I'm searching through all my past games. I don't think I've just admired from afar...?

You signed up for midscummers night revelry, but I don't remember you in that game?

Yeah, I didn't play in that one.

Found it, though.

Alisae's Magical Stories and keyenpeydee's 13 Reasons Why game. I was killed off real early in the 13 Reasons game, though. (i've actually done a face to face mafia game with 13RY theme )

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I'm sick. I'll either be here a lot...or not at all. We'll see. Have fun kids.

Nice setup of using you being sick as a potential alibi for coasting!

Ew.

I was in my RVS joking phase, and I have this weird thing where I always end up pushing Chickadee for some reason. She pings me as scum a lot even when she's town.

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And you don't think there's scum in that group? I'd be on Flavor myself if I wasn't buddying up to Wisdom.

Don’t be on me. I’m just buddying up to Hebichan.

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We should all just buddy up. The buddy system’s good so none of us get lost.

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We should all just buddy up. The buddy system’s good so none of us get lost.

I'm already lost, care to be my beacon of light in this dark dark world?

Bright is my buddy, he's a very nice fish.

Beat it FL.

It’s okay. I already have my buddy! <3

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We should all just buddy up. The buddy system’s good so none of us get lost.

I'll keep you up to date if you keep me up to date.

She had me at date.

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So it looks like everyone is still joke posting except for Pinn, Reasonable, and a little Bright Eyed.

Pinn was pushing the confirmed role pm’s, and I generally don’t like that, but since it was the first bit of analysis and real posting, I think it’s solid.

RR...woo, those walls. That’s a lot. I’ll get to them more in depth later.

Bright Eyed is standing out to me. I don’t think it’s scummy necessarily, but I think I have a

FoS

on Bright.

Don’t have many actual reads yet, but this is a nice starting spot. A lot of joke posting, so...

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Her probably one scum posting and the rest not?

I don’t think there was much else to it. That’s just how she felt.

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So it looks like everyone is still joke posting

Does scum joke post more or less than town?

Usually, I think it’s NAI. This game is kill heavy, so I feel like scum is definitely staying under the radar moreso than not. It’s a 26 player game, idk how many scum fits into that. 6?

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Although that’s a reason in itself for scum to post s lot, so WIFOM, and NAI again. :/

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Although that’s a reason in itself for scum to post s lot, so WIFOM, and NAI again. :/

I would bank on them keeping a low profile.

Yeah, it feels too bad to be shot when you’re scum. I’m going to look into activity this day phase a lot then. Who votes who and when. Let’s see what i get.

If I’m alive tomorrow, maybe I’ll make a chart.

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Fun fact. If I multiple my month of my birthday (11) by the day of my birthday (9), and then multiply that number by the amount of letters in my name (5), I get 495.

What else is 495?!?

Snivy’s Pokemon number.

Coincidence? I think not.

Hebichan and I were meant to be!

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How many scum are we looking at

Singleball: 6-8, maybe 9
Multiball, probably 8-10
That doesn’t include 3ps FYI

9?!?!??!?! Oh damn. It’s definitely multiball then. 9 people on a single scum team is insane.

If I was on that team, it’d be glorious. You know how much WIFOM I would induce into the game if I had 8 partners?!?!?

That’s a dream...

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Singleball: 6-8, maybe 9
Multiball, probably 8-10
That doesn’t include 3ps FYI

I highly doubt single ball just because that's not really Overkill and it'd be hard to justify having a rule in place to limit faction deaths per cycle in a single ball game of this size. Game is over 25% bigger than Overkill 1, so my guess is slightly tweaked upgrade of the first game, which would mean probably two factions of 4 players, and one or two SKs... maybe a couple vigilantes for good killing measure.

Or other roles that could potentially kill under certain circumstances.

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My role kind of deincentivizes me to do any real hunting today. Using the "Hurt" tag feels lame and without any real pressure anyways. I'll probably just be sheeping and looking for hammer opportunities.

Later in game if you’re alive, we can use you to kill yourself for clearing purposes, though, so that’s neat.

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Adding LAMIST to the mix. On what basis is this a serious vote? You’re sr us, based on what exactly - BEFORE we’ve even made a single post? This seems disingenuous on your part. Game just started last night. You can hardly consider our slot lurksacks based on that.

I said I ALWAYS do a townbloc. I do that as scum, too. It's a good strategy in both cases. I see that you want to antagonize whatever I say just because my first vote was on you, eh? Aggresive, be be aggresive. As I said before, how serious is a vote on someone who hasn't posted in IRL first day? Thought my point was clear with that.
However, I CAN consider your slot lurksacks based on what I said, you can't decide what I consider as lurking or not. You confirmed your role via PM and the game already started when you did, but you didn't say anything. I don't think that's scummy, and I never said that either.

You did say it was a “serious” vote, did you not? Gun to head (if you’re actually town here), do you honestly think we’re scum here?

This is WIFOM and AtE filled. Gun to head was to elicit a reaction where saying yes, i think you’re scum is bad, and no, i think you’re town is good.

When in actuality, either answer is NAI. The gun to head was a buzz phrase.

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UNVOTE: Ryan Reynolds

Enough of that. Not fun when he isn’t OMGUS’ing me back.

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Nancy, Wisdom, and Flavor all right here...interesting.

VOTE: DrewVa

Let’s see what this elicits.

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I kinda get that response from him, though.

I’m not necessarily scum reading you, but my vote is serious.

If that makes sense.

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I kinda get that response from him, though.

I’m not necessarily scum reading you, but my vote is serious.

If that makes sense.

There is probably scum on our wagon hoping to force me to claim. I’m not falling for that.

If you’re scum here, I think that would definitely be in your wheelhouse.

Nah, I’d say hammer without claim. I also like baiting flash wagons then tunneling people who jumped on it, though.

Claims mean nothing in a game like this tbh.

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Hebi Hebi Hebi Hebi HEBICHAN!!! Dun dun dun duh!!

Sorry, needed to get my mandatory Hebichan post this page.

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I kinda get that response from him, though.

I’m not necessarily scum reading you, but my vote is serious.

If that makes sense.

There is probably scum on our wagon hoping to force me to claim. I’m not falling for that.

If you’re scum here, I think that would definitely be in your wheelhouse.

Nah, I’d say hammer without claim. I also like baiting flash wagons then tunneling people who jumped on it, though.

Claims mean nothing in a game like this tbh.

That’s fucking bullshit and you know it.

Really? Because I could claim six different roles and nobody would bat an eye. Gamma’s seen this i action.

I just don’t think claims make the alignment here. Sure, it’s nice, but with likely multiball/SK’s, any above average player, which most of us are, can come up with a solid claim.

Along with that, someone said something about Almost having fake claims this game.

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Then don’t claim. You need 14 people on you. You have 3. Why are you feeling this much pressure?

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I agree; his vote is the worst on your slot.

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Oh, I forgot about the people who voted you prior to Pinn. It might be more than 5.

Idk. This is pretty classic TownNancy, I feel.

I’ve never seen scumNancy, though. I feel she’d be able to mimic it. Maybe even have some genuineness because I feel she’d stress a little over it.

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I kinda get that response from him, though.

I’m not necessarily scum reading you, but my vote is serious.

If that makes sense.

There is probably scum on our wagon hoping to force me to claim. I’m not falling for that.

If you’re scum here, I think that would definitely be in your wheelhouse.

Nah, I’d say hammer without claim. I also like baiting flash wagons then tunneling people who jumped on it, though.

Claims mean nothing in a game like this tbh.

Oh FL....so......consistent.

Everything I do has logic behind it, though. Haha.

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To be fair, he’s right. The duck isn’t in this game.

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Hebichan!!! Dun dun duh dun.

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Not gonna lie, never saw Wisdom vs Nancy as being the first real 1v1

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I expected it to be like...Me with half the player list.

If Varsoon was active, we’d have 1v1’d by now.

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I actually have a role that gets charged from getting shot with a night kill, so I’m okay with thatz

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Mmm still comfortable with a creature vote with how interested he was in who else hadn't posted.

Though, what's the argument on DVA? Something about him seeing the game and not responding?

<3 they’ve returned whilst I was away.


Side note, I left during the Nancy/Wisdom 1v1. I’ll look over it later. I was heavily invested.

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Dude is now on wisdom, who I am pretty sure is town

that buddying tho

Looks like Wisdom/Varsoon buddies.

Everyone has a buddy yet? If you don’t have a buddy raise your hand.

There should be 13 pairs. Let’s lynch within the pair that gels the least.

Hebichan/Flavor are gelling the most for the Fun Fact I posted about the Snivy thing a few pages back.

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@Profii - why did you pick DrewVa over Wisdom by that far of a margin in their 1v1.

I thought they both had pretty valid points, to be honest.

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I just looked over it again. I thought more pages had past since I last was here.

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@Profii - why did you pick DrewVa over Wisdom by that far of a margin in their 1v1.

I thought they both had pretty valid points, to be honest.

ive seen town dva and the dva bit of the iso looked towny.
i checked wisdom iso again and i dont even know what i found scummy haha i was going very fast i got through all the isos in under 10 mins

Solid. I understand that process of reading into ISO’s fast.

I’m unsure where I lay with it.

I think I’m town reading Nancy, though.

UNVOTE: DrewVa

I don’t think I’m scum reading Wisdom from that either, though.

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Likely multiball, though, so day 1 isn’t going to make much sense no matter where we go.

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Drewva what do you think about Hebi and Hebi/FL? @The Nancy head.

Yay, Hebi/Flav is a thing.

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Dude is now on wisdom, who I am pretty sure is town

that buddying tho

Looks like Wisdom/Varsoon buddies.

Everyone has a buddy yet? If you don’t have a buddy raise your hand.

There should be 13 pairs. Let’s lynch within the pair that gels the least.

Hebichan/Flavor are gelling the most for the Fun Fact I posted about the Snivy thing a few pages back.

We also both live on the west coast.


Not sure I like Profii's response there. I've used the same line as scum a lot. Then again, I have genuinely lost my train of thought as town.

Which? Where he said he only went into it with 10 minutes, and forgot why he scum read Wisdom?
I can see that.

I actually don’t think I’ve ever seen ScumProfii, which is odd because I like Profii a lot. That’s dangerous.

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Also, by clicking Hebi’s profile, I also like all of those interests. Most of them a lot of players here like, though, but I have a strong interest in both cooking and people.

We’re also both apparently 24.

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I’m gonna get blindsided so hard with Hebichan’s slot.

Someone needs to strictly read any blind spots I’ll have for the slot. We don’t need another Gamma/Creature/Flavor fiasco.

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my Flavor

All I see in that post.

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Can we stop talking about me so much. Thanks.

There ain’t no fake Flavor, I’m as real as my love for Hebichan.

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Side note, I was super busy with a project yesterday, and fell behind. I probably won’t be able to catch up until way tonight or maybe tomorrow. I’ll probably post a little bit from time to time commenting on my thoughts from the current page, but analyzing the previous pages is going to be put off until i get some time. Just letting you know.

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BEF, when you manage to get caught up, talk to me. I’m not discussing old posts.

Posts from 14 hours prior are "old posts"? You flew off the handle at like less than 25% of the votes needed to be lynched and demanded to be hard town read by people because you flew off the handle. Those will

NEVER

be "old posts" for as long as you remain alive in this game.

At this point if you actually

ARE

town, you should be trying to figure out how to get yourself night killed because you are a walking "Leave me till M/LYLO so you can win" sign for scum.

~D

Why would I try to get nightkilled? Sorry but that’s totally whacked. Not that I won’t but actually TRY to do that? What makes so sure that’s going to happen if I don’t? And according to what your proposing, you’ve just made a compelling case for scum NOT to try and kill me, so how do you think that’s even possible here?

At any rate, you have completely misconstrued what I meant by that. My thoughts on the gamestate keep changing, so how is it in anyway useful or helpful to comment on posts I’ve made and/or being referenced that no longer describe my most current thoughts/reads?

I do however want to clarify that I meant no disrespect to BEF with that comment. The same goes for my comments to Gamma earlier. I didn’t understand why he thought it “shady” to answer for my hydra partner and still don’t.

I try to get nightkilled all the time as a VT - beats losing a power role or risking having me in LyLo - the problem is every time i do it, scum see right through it

Same.

Scum like to kill me no matter what. It’s been a long time since I haven’t been night killed tbh.

I think scum are afraid of my natural charisma.

(I should also probably stop replying until I catch up, but I’ve just been keeping tabs on Profii and Hebichan.)

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VLA until Monday. Slight VLA

You all know how I am, though, I’m very likely to get involved whenever i get the chance to catch up, and have high activit for a bit. I’m just gonna be out of town until Monday, but I’ll have some time to post.

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It's hard to believe

That I couldn’t see
That you were always there beside me

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Ah, is Mala still on me for my “joking personality” even though she’s met me in person and played multiple games with me, and knows how I am. Alright. Let me ISO dive her

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I feel like I’m just her scapegoat vote, a step past RVS. I don’t know if I think it’s coming from scumher, but I don’t like it. It’s a lazy read.

FoS: Mala [/vote]

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Failed boldening.

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I also feel like Wisdom’s town. Back during the Wisdom vs Nancy, I legit agreed with the cases they were making, and Wisdomms been at the forefront since then. He’s not trying to hide, and with being in a 1v1 like that it set him up to be a potential shot, and I don’t think scum does that in this kind of game. I feel we’d get more of a sense of Wisdom having political reads if he were scum, if that makes sense.

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I’ll do a more in-depth catchup after I get home tomorrow night.

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I just had 36 hours of playing Dominion, y’all.

What did I miss?

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Honestly I doubt Thor is scum rn

For some reason, I feel like Gamma is generally solid at reading Thor against the grain.

Am I wrong on this, Gamm?

If this is something you can actually claim, I’ll weigh that when I do an ISO dive on everyone.

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And reading his ISO I'm not so sure RCE is scum anymore but will revisit if majiffy flips scum.

So of the people I wanted to focus on in post 626..

RR, profii - probably town
RCE, Mala, Varsoon - scumlean
Majiffy, hebichan, chickadee - scum

Holy, no wonder there’s a giant ass wagon on you.

The only ones I agree with here are potentially Mala and maybe RCE.

Eh, I’m null on the chickadee slot, but still. This reads list is why there’s a big wagon on you. Wtf is this stance coming from?

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@Nero - why is Bujaber scum and not being pushed for NAI things/flawed town play? You seem like classic townNero who comes in and gets attacked by everyone to me.

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf

The naked vote on the player that was just returning at 1am after a 5 day VLA.

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I honestly feel like policy lynches are fine day one in games this big and we should have policy lynched majiffy for actively saying he wouldn't contribute or creature for spamming. But this isn't here nor there.

Well, we're not policy lynching any

I’m going to trust Gamma’s read on Thor for now too. I like TownThor in games later in the game, anyways, and if he’s scum, he’s usually caught.

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I reread the first 5 pages. I picked out posts I didn't like. Then I ISO'd the owners of those posts to see what they've done since then and summarized the case on each of them that I found scummy.

You think that scum are going to have obvious posts you wouldn’t like in the first 5 pages of a 26 player game?

Not a shade, serious question.

I’m trying to actively reemmerce myself into the game.

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Tails, for some reason, I like you. I can’t explain why, but maybe gut just says your town to me. I have a hardcore paranoia you gonna sweep the game.

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I also want to point out how Creature has NEVER voted me, at least, as far as I can tell, when he was town except the first game we ever played in together. I don’t think Creature votes me too often despite how much we have played together, but I think this is a potential scum screature tell. I’m going to look more into it.

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and I don't really respect long V/LAs

I posted a couple times, but there was a lot of posts. I was LITERALLY out of town all week. Can check my activity site wide. Very minimal.

And I am posting exactly when I said I’d be back.

This is a fake push by you.

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Tails, for some reason, I like you. I can’t explain why, but maybe gut just says your town to me. I have a hardcore paranoia you gonna sweep the game.

If Tails gets NKed this post will be interesting...

It should be interesting now.

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I also want to point out how Creature has NEVER voted me, at least, as far as I can tell, when he was town except the first game we ever played in together. I don’t think Creature votes me too often despite how much we have played together, but I think this is a potential scum screature tell. I’m going to look more into it.

Creature couldn’t just be wrong? I don’t see how that makes him scum and of course, we don’t know what your alignment is.

Creature is much more frozen as scum, as well as downbeat.

Did I say he was scum? I believe I said potential. I haven’t been able to go through other games I’ve been in with Creature yet, but I will.

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Why can’t I just be town who’s taken a liking to townHebichan RCE?

Not going to lie, I actually don’t have a strong read either way on her. I’d probably defend her a bit if she was getting pushed, but not enough where I’d bank on her being town.

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That's fair, I just didn't like the way your RVS interactions continued into the day and almost solely revolved around Hebi.

I just have a crush on Hebi.

I disagree that it was solely revolves around Hebi. She was brought up a lot, but I was part of a decent amount of talking earlier in the game.

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I’m actually having trouble gathering reads. Is anyone else having this issue?

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I kind of town read Nancy slot.

I kind of scum read Creature and Mala slot, but I feel I’m getting some OMGUS vibes on that, so I might be a little biased.

@RCE - I can’t die early, I get charged by night kills.

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So while I think he's still scum I'm fine with consolidating a better Lynch.

So while I think he's still scum I'm fine with consolidating a better Lynch.

If you think he's scum then from your POV there

SHOULDN'T

be a better lynch.

Who else are you scum reading though?

I do actually like this from Nero. I’m town reading Nero.

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I’m gonna OMGUS Creature.

VOTE: Creature

I don’t think that vote comes from townCreature.

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That's fair, I just didn't like the way your RVS interactions continued into the day and almost solely revolved around Hebi.

Piggybacking, i also am top 10 posters in this game, and I was gone for a week, so I think this is a rather shallow statement that is being made.

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But his vote was naked, FL. Apparently naked votes rule all with this playerlist. You have an inherent disadvantage

It’s different. TownCreature should be able to see that this isn’t scumLeaf. It’s just him using me to push a non countered wagon, and get NAI read off of me because I’ll either end up town reading him after a feud for it and defend him, or he can add fuel to a wagon on me and not take any blame.

This is a win/win scenario for scumCreature.

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Maybe not see that it’s townLeaf, that’s giving a lot of credit to his ability to read me, but at the very least, he wouldn’t see me as a viable lynch right now as town, but pressuring me when he’s scum benefits him because he can hide, and I can argue with myself in circles for days.

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That's fair, I just didn't like the way your RVS interactions continued into the day and almost solely revolved around Hebi.

Piggybacking, i also am top 10 posters in this game, and I was gone for a week, so I think this is a rather shallow statement that is being made.

I agree, I didn't pursue it since it's not particularly a strong reason.

I actually like this self admittance weak reasoning. Actually, I think it’s enough for a slight town read.

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Not comfortable with Hebi just sheeping people.
Hebi, whyyy

I have similar thoughts, but she’s actively bringing up that she’s just sheeping in a kill heavy game, so that’s kind of lean townie to me

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I was expecting a lot more killing when I was invited to this game

This

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Stop this

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Stop what?

You’re just doing your night 1 always target FL thing, but had you targeted me, you’d be dead.

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I feel like people are pushing the modkillable ability of it as a bad thing, but I feel it’s just a part of this game. Like, it’s almost half expected of Toog to have eventually done that, which I personally like. It also gives Day 2 a big event to remember through the game.

Now, do we think DGB pushed that as town or scum?

I can see that coming from a townDGB, tbh.

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I feel like people are pushing the modkillable ability of it as a bad thing, but I feel it’s just a part of this game. Like, it’s almost half expected of Toog to have eventually done that, which I personally like. It also gives Day 2 a big event to remember through the game.

Now, do we think DGB pushed that as town or scum?

I can see that coming from a townDGB, tbh.

On top of this, there was A LOT of potential WIFOM from both the only able to hammer comment and the 1 shot global block confirmed.

The modkill is incredibly beneficial, and I think Toog played it well.

It also happened before any potential claims could come out.

Cool role. Solid play. In hindsight, that will be a big moment in this game. Remember it.

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Also this convo with RR is boring and NAI WIFOM filled.

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they’re not empty. I’m absorbing setup spec which helps me game solve.

And I gave thoughts on DGB.

I need to ISO for a push, but I didn’t like Hebi’s go ahead and lynch me attitude.

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My bad, guys...

If I can't catchup within the next day or so, I'll replace out and let you guys have someone that'll do something. I got busy working on the Large Theme I'm about to run.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also want to point out how Creature has NEVER voted me, at least, as far as I can tell, when he was town except the first game we ever played in together. I don’t think Creature votes me too often despite how much we have played together, but I think this is a potential scum screature tell. I’m going to look more into it.

and I don't really respect long V/LAs

I posted a couple times, but there was a lot of posts. I was LITERALLY out of town all week. Can check my activity site wide. Very minimal.

And I am posting exactly when I said I’d be back.

This is a fake push by you.

I kind of town read Nancy slot.

I kind of scum read Creature and Mala slot, but I feel I’m getting some OMGUS vibes on that, so I might be a little biased.

@RCE - I can’t die early, I get charged by night kills.

I’m gonna OMGUS Creature.

VOTE: Creature

I don’t think that vote comes from townCreature.

I’m not caught up at all, but I’m glancing at this page and saw the Creature stuff, and wanted to come out here and say...


I TOLD Y’ALL!!!

VOTE: CREATURE

[Flavor Leaf]

I dont see a slip. Get back on hebi.

I don’t see a slip either, but Creature’s still scum. He might not have slipped, but I’ll take the wagon.

[Flavor Leaf]

Waot did BEF claim a guilty on me?
Strange.

I'm not a miller so *shrug*

If I was miller, I wouldn’t have claimed it in this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

What's more damning is that Creature posted that and just ghosted.
VOTE: Creature

No, I went dinner.

Nevermind, he went dinner. He’s town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ah, man, I’m actually getting scum vibes from the wagon forming on Creature off of reading the past page alone...

[Flavor Leaf]

@Wisdom - BEF wants my lov—I mean, Hebichan, not Creature.

You thinking Hebi is scum pushing Creature?

Why does that make Creature town? Especially with all that multiball talk

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh. BEF guiltied her.

Ouch.

Hebichan.

Breaking my heart

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh. BEF guiltied her.

Ouch.

Hebichan.

Breaking my heart

Its okay, I will flip town and you can rub it in everyone's face.

VOTE: hebichan

As long as there's a guilty on me, I suppose.

Would you guys believe that I’ve just been softing Mason Lovers with Hebichan all game, and if she dies, I die, and nobody wants to lose this game’s Flavor?

[Flavor Leaf]

I have a problem with getting AtE’d...

Hebi...you’ll be Jack, I’ll be Rose...but I’m going to have to let you drown here...

This hurts me hard.

VOTE: Hebichan

You are actually the optimal lynch...


PEdit:
VOTE: Unvote

She has a point. Unless I’m getting hard AtE’d...

[Flavor Leaf]

Probly cause Im a claimed VT, which would make no sense for non-goons in a game where scum was provided safe claims.

Ugh...she HAS to be a goon if she’s scum. This makes sense. I think it’s a gambit fake soft guilty...

[Flavor Leaf]

yeh def hebi buddies in there

Varsoon and Aclem seem the worst to me. Both Cerb and Dave are just do do's.

Alch is a little too blatant

Varsoon I could see

I’m blatant because I’m sure that guilty is fake.

I think I’m siding with Mustang here even though I think his flame is deep red.

[Flavor Leaf]

inb4 Cheeky Godfather

...is it really a role madness game if you're a VT, though?

TBF, token VTs in a role madness are a thing. Not that I believe Hebi but with as much modding exp. as you have I'm surprised you'd think this.

All of my games don't.
I think VT's a bum role to give someone in a game full of other roles.
Hell, even in my Varsoon Mafia game, the VT was informed that they were the only VT in setup.

Generally when I put Vanillas in my setups, I like to have it synergize with my other roles. I like the WIFOM of a VT or two, but yeah, I would get super upset if I rolled VT in a game like this.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wonder... what are the odds BEF is actually an active x-shot PGO and softed an investigative role to draw scum then used his ability to kil them?

Doesn’t account for all the Janitor stuff but that’s probably someone with a global role like Toog’s global Doc.

That probably would have been a better way to play as PGO.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Tails

I have a feeling he’s the reason behind the lack of flips, and to me his posts screams that he knows the identities.

Also the delayed flip set me off.

This is scum trying to get town cred for an eventual “called it” moment.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m pretty sure I’m responsible for one of the deaths, however it wasn’t who I was expecting it to be. I might claim later this day phase, but I might try to use it further for more WIFOM.

[Flavor Leaf]

If the guilty is not legit then there is something strange going on.

@protective roles
Keep my buddy RCE alive please or whoever you want around. My results could be tainted if heb flips town. Guess we see what I get tonight but if heb somehow flips town then I will only post my result if requested as to not skew peoples SRs.

If she flips as claimed you fullclaim tomorrow

[Flavor Leaf]

...?

My role allows me to pick my own flavor if someone dies because of my role. I have a two part role, one that requires me to have a targeting mechanic, and one that happens passively after something happens. I don’t know when, if that occurs, or if it has occurred already.

The death implies that this passively has happened already, because I didn’t target said player who died with my flavor.

[Flavor Leaf]

My role loses a lot of merit once it’s claimed, which is why I’m being vague.

[Flavor Leaf]

So...
Who'd you kill?

I was going for RCEnigma.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why RCE?
Do you think your kill failed because of the global mechanic?
If so, doesn't that make RCE confirmed one way or another depending on the alignments of those that did die?

But why did my kill flavor show up then?

RCE is always inherently scummy to me, and was a player, who if town, I wouldn’t have felt bad killing because I like having support when I’m town.

I targeted there Night 1 as well, so yeah.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why RCE?
Do you think your kill failed because of the global mechanic?
If so, doesn't that make RCE confirmed one way or another depending on the alignments of those that did die?

But why did my kill flavor show up then?

RCE is always inherently scummy to me, and was a player, who if town, I wouldn’t have felt bad killing because I like having support when I’m town.

I targeted there Night 1 as well, so yeah.

Because RCE would fight me rather than go with me if I’m in a 1v1 with scum.

I expect to 1v1 someone within the next day or so. It’s time to add a little flavor to the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

So you're saying you were redirected?

Potentially. I have a second part of my role that could have killed, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

If we can figure it out, i might not have to waste a third shot trying to kill RCE basically.

[Flavor Leaf]

...?

My role allows me to pick my own flavor if someone dies because of my role. I have a two part role, one that requires me to have a targeting mechanic, and one that happens passively after something happens. I don’t know when, if that occurs, or if it has occurred already.

The death implies that this passively has happened already, because I didn’t target said player who died with my flavor.

What does that have to do with what you quoted

You questioned me, and I was trying to explain what was going on in my head more to you.

If someone like you who knows me well is confused with what I’m saying then I know I gotta clarify more.

It all makes sense in my head, but I’m the one saying it, so I have trouble finding the line between myself and the other players. I also have to stay vague or else scum are just going to be able to analyze it and completely act accordingly, like UnaBombah did when I pulled the watcher gambit that one game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh. It was just to like state “i second this”.

BEF claimed a guilty on hebi, Hebi flipped VT. Time to figure that one out, is that a wrong state of mind to be in?

[Flavor Leaf]

One of the kills is flavor that I specifically told Almost through my role, so that’s not necessarily the best way to look at it.

I’ve already claimed that one of those kills were likely because of me based on the flavor. I think that part of my role helps me figure out if I target people or not.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m bringing this up because I can potentially kill people who target me.

[Flavor Leaf]

...?

My role allows me to pick my own flavor if someone dies because of my role. I have a two part role, one that requires me to have a targeting mechanic, and one that happens passively after something happens. I don’t know when, if that occurs, or if it has occurred already.

The death implies that this

passively

has happened already, because I didn’t target said player who died with my flavor.

Could some of the deaths have had weak modifiers or is someone a PGO?

PGO is possible, but my role is like a conditional PGO.

I’d rather not go deep into it right now or else it becomes entirely pointless.

[Flavor Leaf]

There’s a high probability that whoever targets me next is killed, so...yeah, be warned.

If I was redirected, this is 100%.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Wisdom - Not gonna lie, I didn’t read the thread enough to know about BEF’s soft inno on RCE, and I just picked RCE because I shot there night 1.

That could make sense about the slot being bodyguarded

[Flavor Leaf]

I know I have alot of explaining to do. I am very busy this weekend but I'll try to be as helpful as possible.
I don't know if I was redirected or something like that but I did get a guilty on Heb.
There is nothing in my role pm that explains why heb flipped VT with a guilty.
My N2 action brought about a No Result and again I can't explain why.
I am reluctant to say who I targeted because my results from the Nights can not be confirmed (even a No Result) after the Heb flip.

If it was me you targeted, say it please.

[Flavor Leaf]

I know I have alot of explaining to do. I am very busy this weekend but I'll try to be as helpful as possible.
I don't know if I was redirected or something like that but I did get a guilty on Heb.
There is nothing in my role pm that explains why heb flipped VT with a guilty.
My N2 action brought about a No Result and again I can't explain why.
I am reluctant to say who I targeted because my results from the Nights can not be confirmed (even a No Result) after the Heb flip.

If it was me you targeted, say it please.

It could help me figure some things out if I know I was targeted or not

[Flavor Leaf]

Also,
if I were PGO and you visited me N1, wouldn't you be dead right now?

We already knew you weren’t PGO, because my role.

Some PGO’s only target back kill actions or doctor actions.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: BEF

This is for you, Hebichan!

[Flavor Leaf]

I can hammer if no one is willing to by the way. I'm just an ant in this big ass game

I’m never getting killed this game, and I’m going to cause bad WIFOM for a potential mislynch later on, so I can hammer also, if nobody else is willing.

[Flavor Leaf]

I can hammer if no one is willing to by the way. I'm just an ant in this big ass game

I’m never getting killed this game, and I’m going to cause bad WIFOM for a potential mislynch later on, so I can hammer also, if nobody else is willing.

*if nobody else is willing to allow other players to do it.

[Flavor Leaf]

He’s a Jester

[Flavor Leaf]

I can try to kill him tonight, but I might not be able to. I’m pretty sure my PGO variant is up.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Unvote

I’m just going to try killing him tonight. People (scum) can try to stop me, but they’ll likely die in the process.

I have a feeling he’s a scum role that can kill a lot of people , and that he isn’t necessarily lying about that.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Unvote

I’m just going to try killing him tonight. People (scum) can try to stop me, but they’ll likely die in the process.

I have a feeling he’s a scum role that can kill a lot of people , and that he isn’t necessarily lying about that.

I just realized your sig claims your boonskies.

Is this true???
-Cerb

The one and only.

I realized that the avatar made my personality come across incredibly different, so this is technically my main account now. Boonskiies is my modding account so I can separate and organize threads.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also I’m phone posting right now. If we get a scum flip, we will look at the odd/even factor and who joined in “safe spots”

This is still rather risky for scum because people can Unvote.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, selfless promotion, I need 6 more people for my large themeto start. Play with the mod of this game! Gonna be great!
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=77991

Also, i kinda wanna go back to Tails.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL who did you shoot

Uhm, honestly, I forget, but I don’t think it was either of those two.

I might not havethe ability to shoot right now, I guess.

Nero might have bus driver’d me, though, and if that happened, then Alchemist or Alonzo could have died from me. I got super busy, so i forgot, haha.

@RCEnigma - congratulations. Good thing my shots at you didn’t go through.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, duh. I shot at Tails.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, Tails definitely knew about the flips not happening just know, so i’m Still not happy with the Tails slot.

[Flavor Leaf]

I was expecting a lot more killing when I was invited to this game

This

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Stop this

Stop what?

You’re just doing your night 1 always target FL thing, but had you targeted me, you’d be dead.

I thought this was PGO crumbing but with the BEF flip, I've no idea and ultimately want to just lynch before we get too close to MyLo/LyLo

I am not PGO, but I have similarities with it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, duh. I shot at Tails.

what
Why would you shoot tails
Your kills continue being terrible

What do you mean? My last kill target was great. RCEnigma flipped 3rd party.

Why do you put “kills”? There’s only been the two, and I was pushing Tails yesterday, and he hasn’t even flipped yet.

[Flavor Leaf]

If there are two scumteams, an SK (supposedly) and FL saying he can shoot people, why were there two deads? Can we assume that maybe one of the scumteams can't shoot? I played a multiball where only one of the teams had a nightkill. Maybe that's why they're called the Underdogs here.

I can’t always kill, i just don’t know when and when I can’t. I’m conditional.

[Flavor Leaf]

rce was a non harmful 3p who looked really town
And youve wastes all your shots there
And then you shoot tails
When there are so many scummy slots around

Yeah, but I was barely keeping up with the game until yesterday.

[Flavor Leaf]

anyway
you might as well claim sk

Lol, I already have claimed it.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ll throw some WIFOM, as scum why would I ever shoot at RCE and Tails then admit to it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

Reactions? Go.

@Wisdom - First post in the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pretty sure Nero redirected me.

Also, I’m not seeing Gamma as scum. He hasn’t tried to push me at all, and he’s asked for me to comment on certain things to just see where I stand. That’s town Gamma.

Also, cheeky vs Gamma was a thing for a little bit, right? I just read up on Gamma’s ISO, but I think i vaguely remember that.

Gamma’s town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

Reactions? Go.

@Wisdom - First post in the game.

There are 8.9 million reasons why no one will take a post 1 claim from your seriously :p

I mean, they shouldn’t. I’ve been known to claim 5+ times, different claims, as town before. That was on a game I called out and hard pushed 3/4 scum. Maria then went on to win a SK game...that game...-.-

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

Reactions? Go.

@Wisdom - First post in the game.

There are 8.9 million reasons why no one will take a post 1 claim from your seriously :p

Also, i was playing in a jokester way because I thought I wanted targets at me.

[Flavor Leaf]

GammaEmerald posts a lot about himself. Defensive?

What was the "joke claim?"

Convenient that you come in to discredit someone who actively desires your lynch.
FYI the joke claim was claiming masons with Creature, us two and Flavor Leaf have a history of these things going south when done seriously, here I did it as a joke and the fact Creature never acknowledged it is super bad.

I also don’t think Gamma makes this play as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

When do I ever push this hard FL?

What is this in response to?

I think it makes sense that you push me here, tbh. I don’t think you’ve been pushing me hard at all, but Ithink you’re getting to the area that you’re just going to be paranoid of ScumMe.

However, before I don’t think you’ve ever pushed me as scum, or even considered me as scum besides that first game we played in.

I’ve never rolled scum against you either, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Dva - I got something up my sleeve still. I’m trying to pull the gambit of the century.

[Flavor Leaf]

()_+_) LAST NIGHT TOMORROW ()_-_)

Hello, players of Overkill 2!!! Everyone’s favorite Disney Princess, BOONSKIIES, the host of LAST NIGHT TOMORROW, a major BOON to the town of this large theme game.

Town

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Lean Town

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Null

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Null-Scum

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Lean Scum

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Scum

*This list was not made in order. I went back and forth and added when necessary.

profii

- profii’s been pushing me a bit, which is a bit different than usual. Like I said a second ago, i think he’s transforming to a paranoia level of me, which I get often with players that i play with a lot. Gamma Emerald had it with me for a bit, and it’s about that time Profii does. I town read here based on not having any scum pings, and nothing feels out of the ordinary other than that expected attitude towards me, w2hich he isn’t even really pushing hard.

Gamma Emerald

- i explained my town read. Mixed in with the push there today, I think th3is is TownGamma.

DrewVa

- I started town reading here a while ago. I feel like Wisdom and DrewVa are probably the most genuine town out there right now. Reads list trajectories make sense. Yeah, town.

Tails

- I already explained this. I didn’t like his posting yesterday with the lack of flips, and I guess the RCE flip shows he didn’t know. Although he isn’t pushing me back. Actually, I’m looking at his ISO more in depth now, and I kind of think this is a hard town read now.

Fortian

- I like DV’s posts, and regfan had one big one that I just went, hmm, that’s too much work for scum to put in in their position. Sure, that’s WIFOM, but literally nothing they’ve done has longed me. Their walls and posts seem genuine. I wouldn’t be on board with any wagon here.

Wisdom

- genuine town, him bringing up SK makes me think he could be an SK, but I have no reason to doubt this slot. I enjoy his general demeanor, and feel he could hard pocket me, though, even if I thought he was super scummy. But I think he’s town. Like I said, the Nancy-Wisdom feud I felt like they both made strong points, and had reasons to have conflict. It resolved itself for the most part too.

pinturicchio

- Ryan Reynolds here hasn’t really been on any major wagon besides Majiffy. He even unvoted Gamma shortly after voting. I’m gonna lean town here.

davesaz

- don’t feel like reading his ISO more in depth, tbh. I’ve had success lynching him when he’s scum, but I’ve mislynched him before and protected him when he was scum, so :shrug:

DrippingGoofball

- i dont really get his “yeah, lynch me” play. He forced Toog to kill themselves, but I don’t know DGB enough to know if that’s something they’d be bold enough to push as scum.

Thor665

- I feel thor’s done near the least in this game. He’s been making some peeps here and there. POE says lean scum.

Reasonably Rational

- i don’t have a lot to say here. I don’t like the Gamma vote. I think scum is pushing Gamma right now. I don’t have anything townie really to point out, or scummy. They protected Creature slot a bit, but meh. Lean scum for the Gamma push.

BuJaber

- idk. I thought the wagon here originally was scum driven, and it still could be. I didn’t like Varsoon’s attitude on the wagon. I feel like one of them are probably scum. BuJaber hasn’t really done anything townie, but he might be a bit too scummy from playstyle.

Varsoon

- i didn’t like him specifically on the Bujaber wagon. Also didn’t like him specifically on the majiffy wagon. Also he was on Toog. I think it’s a bit suspicious for people to be throwing town reads on him. Varsoon’s got that personality where he’ll do things like that as town, but it looked like he was just trying for a mislynch to me, but he’d push it like he was just being hard and voting wherever. I’m like...null-lean scum reading the slot, because I know a lot of it’s NAI, but I do have paranoia. Also RR, DGB, and Gamma votes. Idk, I see those a scum all easy votes right now.

Amzela

- this is most likely a scum slot. Severe lack of posting, pushed DGB, voted RR. Yeah. Nothing really townie in their ISO. Feels like they’re just here waiting to see what happens. (With lie activity, of course) which could be new to forum mafia, but it feels like new to being scum on forum mafia to bring it further.

____________________________________________________________________________________

Will scum continue to drive this terrible Gamma Emerald wagon?

Will the redirector explanation finally be revealed?

WILL TAILS EXPLAIN HOW HE SEEMINGLY KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE LACK OF FLIPS AND GENERAL ANALYSIS YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Find out next time on...

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW!!!

__________________________________________________________________________________

Have you ever felt, you know, not so fresh? Well, you too can be fresh like Boon, and all you gotta do is...

VOTE: Amzela

[Flavor Leaf]

While I think Amzela is scum, I think RR is probably the correct play today.


I also don’t feel Varsoon and Bujaber are on the same team, so I could probably go one of them, but I think they’ll out themselves eventually.

Probably wrong on something in the blue area, but I’m solid with my greens.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Flavor: Why would I push you back? I don't see you as scummy as RR, Varsoon, or even DGB, and I see no reason why you can't be figured out later.

Oh, and I guessed.

Yeah, I wasn’t in the game enough tbh. My Last Night Tomorrow I went and ISO dove everyone, obviously I didn’t spend too much time on everyone, but I did do a good skim, and it helped remember things.

[Flavor Leaf]

You think profii is lying or?

@fl

About being a cop? Yeah, he’s lying.

If that’s not what you were referring to, point it out for me. I’m a little mentally drained from a long day on set and then my Last Night Tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

The shameless plug on the Last Night Tomorrow?

I’m actually basing my game title off my play. I’ve done it on site about 10+ times, just hadn’t in a while, if that’s what you were referring to.

Plus, Gamma’s been asking me to do it in multiple games over the past months, so thought this would be a good game for it.

[Flavor Leaf]

That and having a result on gamma, yeah

He might have a result. He doesn’t have a guilty.

[Flavor Leaf]

That and having a result on gamma, yeah

He might have a result. He doesn’t have a guilty.

If I have a guilty should I hard claim cop and trade scum gamma 1 for 1 cop profii ?

I mean, yes, but you don’t.

[Flavor Leaf]

i missed 3847 - page must have turned in real time or whatever...

this definitely needs copping

You’ll just die...

[Flavor Leaf]

i missed 3847 - page must have turned in real time or whatever...

this definitely needs copping

You’ll just die...

It’s like you didn’t think I was a cop

I just knew you didn’t have a result on me, and thought you were crumbing that. Then you crumbed the no result thing.

There’s other reasons I’m against this Gamma wagon. I believe that he’s Vanilla.

[Flavor Leaf]

I ain’t no underdog. im just town pulling off gambit of the year.

Almost is probably having a blast with me this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

fl who did you shoot

I don’t think the ability to kill this game anymore.

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, I never did. I’m coming clean now. I’m town hardcore gambiting this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, I never did. I’m coming clean now. I’m town hardcore gambiting this game.

so you dont have anything to do with any of the kills?

Nope.

I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber

[Flavor Leaf]

Pint Night 1. Tails Night 2. Gamma Night 3.

I knew Gamma was Vanilla, and for some reason thought he was conf town because of that yesterday.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber

you have one post to confirm this isn't a reaction test or I'm siding with scum

profii has already exhausted my willingness to fuck around for today

-d

Yeah, I have a guilty on Bujaber.

[Flavor Leaf]

so bujaber is "not vanilla"?

-d

No. He’s Mafia.

I only got Alonzo’s Vanilla results, which is why i was trying not to get shot until after I was able to get my own target.

[Flavor Leaf]

so tails is either vt or goon?

Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.

[Flavor Leaf]

so tails is either vt or goon?

Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.

It’s also why I started to expect Tails knew stuff when I pushed him. I learned he wasn’t vanilla.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber

you have one post to confirm this isn't a reaction test or I'm siding with scum

profii has already exhausted my willingness to fuck around for today

-d

Yeah, I have a guilty on Bujaber.

He was an amnesiac Vanilla cop, so you either get vanilla or non-vanilla, right?

For the first three nights, yes. I have my own action now that alonzo is Dead.

[Flavor Leaf]

I really wish you would have went me last night, Profii.

Bujaber is not Underdog, either.

[Flavor Leaf]

so tails is either vt or goon?

Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.

It’s also why I started to expect Tails knew stuff when I pushed him. I learned he wasn’t vanilla.

So Bujaber and Tails are scum but you don’t know what kind?

Idk if tails is scum. He’s just not Vanilla. Bujaber is scum.

Tails was a target by Alonzo, not me. I got a 1 shot ability after Alonzo died.

[Flavor Leaf]

I got a true alignment shot basically. I believe I would have found out if he was SK.

[Flavor Leaf]

I really wish you would have went me last night, Profii.

Bujaber is not Underdog, either.

so tails is either vt or goon?

Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.

It’s also why I started to expect Tails knew stuff when I pushed him. I learned he wasn’t vanilla.

So Bujaber and Tails are scum but you don’t know what kind?

Idk if tails is scum. He’s just not Vanilla. Bujaber is scum.

Tails was a target by Alonzo, not me. I got a 1 shot ability after Alonzo died.

So Bujaber is Mafia?

So, then there’s still one more Underdog out there. :/

Yeah, Bujaber is Mafia. I imagine there’s one more underdog. Should we aim for the underdog today, or go my guilty? Going for 3rd party is also solid.

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@Profii - we should hear all actions by you, because we’re looking for underdogs. It doesn’t clear them, but it does clear them of being an underdog or not.

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Profii has to be killed or the remaining underdog (assuming one left) will be POE’d.

It’s cool if I draw up a night kill now too. I did my stuff.

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@Profii - After Alonzo died, I got a 1-shot ability. I also knew that I’d get a 1-shot ability once whatever role that was giving me info died.

When Alonzo died and flipped, I was like “oh, cool, that’s how i was getting this info.” Because all the information I got was given to right after end of night phase. I didn’t know it was Alonzo.

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I’m not gambiting anymore. The gambit was my stuff before this claim with my fake conditional reflexive vigilante claim. I was trying to live long enough to get my shot.

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I stated all game I had more to my role, didn’t I?

@profii - that’s really all it was. I got info, and once the person who was “giving me anononymous phone calls” aka Alonzo, hit the bricks, I’d gain my 1-shot.

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And @Bujaber - my role is tied to Alonzo...i got all his results. I don’t have the same role as him.

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@Profii - you should check Fortian tonight.

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I think Fortian is underdog based on the feeling that an Underdog would hop onto this wagon, and nobody else makes sense to be there, imo.

I guess maybe Dave.

For 3rd party, I'm leaning Tails, but I could see one of Wisdom/DrewVa being there, I've been town reading them all game. DGB slot could be, but i don't understand their play.

If this is my last hurrah, 'twas a good game. I'm out of actions, though.

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lol, if you're trying to soft potential tracker, Lt. Mustang already flipped tracker.

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Someone hammer. If I'm lying I'm lock scum, and you can kill me tomorrow.

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TIL tracker is the only investigative in the game.

there's a watcher flipped, alongside Alonzo's vanilla cop which is attached to my role. Also Profii.

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You wanna know why that's confirmed to be a lie on his part.

I had been claiming that my role allowed me to kill, or to kill people who targeted me.

As town, there's zero reason for him to target me in the first place.

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It sounded like a fakeclaim to me. Particularly that you've claimed multiple times. Also could be a nice claim for SK and reducing KPN is always good. Even if it weren't a fakeclaim targetting you would tell me things.

Like if you lie. Or if someone lies about targetting you.

Only night that was different wss night 2 because I hadn't sorted RR yet confidently and I thought if they were town it'd be worth keeping them alive and if scum I block them at least.

It only took 1 person to have messed that up for me if that were the case, and why would I have changed my mind right after Alonzo died.

Also, I hadn't claimed multiple times at that point, so that is a lie. I had one claim I had throughout this game prior to today.

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Also, I haven't been on a single day end wagon, you've been on ALL 4, 3 of them you were on with Varsoon.

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My role allows me to pick my own flavor if someone dies because of my role. I have a two part role, one that requires me to have a targeting mechanic, and one that happens passively after something happens. I don’t know when, if that occurs, or if it has occurred already.

The death implies that this passively has happened already, because I didn’t target said player who died with my flavor.

That was part of the one same claim I made earlier.