Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]

[Firebringer]

carca is scum lets get her!

[Firebringer]

RC i am sheeping u and i am assuming ur town.
tell me what to do

[Firebringer]

ohh wait rc is phoning in this game....

ill sheep keyser.
keyser r u town?

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this game is so content dry i think some of my posts are better than most of ur guys iso.
thats sad.

i guess i should lead the town to a lose here instead of letting anyone dictate my vote.

[Firebringer]

no.

VOTE: aster

this person could be a threat to my town leadership role.

[Firebringer]

actually reading ur posts i would also vote u blackjack

but i only have one
and primary threats to my candidacy for town leader must be dealt with.

now i need a good trump killshots to use at aster to get the masses to follow me

[Firebringer]

disaster aster

thats what you get with aster, a disasater!

[Firebringer]

disaster aster

thats what you get with aster, a disasater!

i am so proud of myself for this lol

[Firebringer]

^ forum mafia in a nutshell

why haven't u sheeped me on disaster aster

[Firebringer]

i am a bringer of conveniance

[Firebringer]

fire is pretty convenient when u think about it

[Firebringer]

fire kills people
VOTE: firebringer

it only kills those who aren't pure of heart.

[Firebringer]

aster you're really messing the vibe firebringer and i got going

aster the disaster.

[Firebringer]

disaster aster has some really pretty posts. its kind of unfortunate i don't have patience to read them right now.

[Firebringer]

Aster, I'll read carefully your post about your reads afterwards.

I kinda feel that we gotta throw in a shitposting stage again just when things were progressing

That's kinda frustating, but I guess it can't be helped huh

Just got way less interested in this game though honestly...

complain harder, i will shitpost harder

[Firebringer]

you could create a philosophy based on that maybe

I kinda disagree though.

does this image work

[Firebringer]

uh in what way

less memey I guess

VOTE: unvote

I might just sheep either Aster or Keyzel to be honest, they're not town at all and I can find points in their posts that can come from scum, but they seem townier than the rest at least

i am very townie sir

[Firebringer]

You're quite funny sometimes Fire, I laughed when I saw some of your posts in other games

But yeah, I was interested in playing a different this game in a different way

thanks, i try to entertain. mostly myself.
but sometimes others are entertained and its always nice to hear.

but i am not playing this game any real differently and u wont like me playing serious if u read a game of me serious. i am a drama llama when i get cereal

[Firebringer]

LETS GET THE DISASTER ASTER

[Firebringer]

why do u think i am scum?

[Firebringer]

you correctly called blackjack scum in your sole serious scumread of the game then went back to a cutesy memewagon on obvtown

also I'm pretty sure you never make that post about sheeping me as town

If I'm wrong you're welcome to prove me wrong,

1) why do you think that was a serious post.
2) u really think that of me?
3) i don't have to prove anything u will know eventually.

i am confident u will correct urself on this read on me. not sure when but i believe in u.
i have the towns readz on u now

[Firebringer]

RC u can sheep me on disaster aster, you can assume if u think i am scum that i am bussing.

[Firebringer]

lol i just realized this game has 4 scum....
dang

[Firebringer]

Mafia may nightkill their own members.

i always wonder how practical of a strategy this is.
i guess it eliminates the amount of scum the town can lynch so increases chances in some regard but i think its mostly suboptimal?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: springtrap

now i am on a serious vote.

[Firebringer]

I dont know what part of this game to take seriously anymore. I dont think that's a good sign.

Thoughts on the current wagons?

I will answer this again when the votecount is updated, but all I'm seeing right now is mainly filler and fluff in a game where we should probably be more worried. You know, since 4 of us are evil out of 13 (or 15, I guess, if we count the accounts with multiple people).

I'll wait until later for more critical judgement, and mostly so I can see what is purely friendship and what is attempted buddying.

ur previous post was u saying u liked to have banter to re-integrate to the game.
next post ur complaining about the filler in order to not provide any judgements.

so why don't u banter with me and we can give some judgements shall we?

[Firebringer]

meme men if you force me to effort this game you're dying tomorrow regardless of your alignment. ruru hydra is scum.

and fire you've pushed aster as a meme but you said that you actually thought blackjack was scum by iso. they are scum. Idk what your 'actual read' on anyone is.

okay

just to let u know, i really appreciate u responding to my posts.
last game we played u were ignoring me for a huge chunk of game and really bothered me. i felt stood up. really hurt to the core of me.

<3

[Firebringer]

meme men if you force me to effort this game you're dying tomorrow regardless of your alignment.

what has happened? are you having a mental health crisis?

If you are feeling down RC, remember there's always help

https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/men ... h-hotline/

-rh

not appropriate.

[Firebringer]

pretty sure he is town here. felt like a real rc read on me.
i don't think scum!rc would scumread me like that and in general would only scumread me if that was a consensus on me if he was scum.

but i might be giving him too much credit. when i am scum i don't like scumreading him so i kind of assume he does same for me but i know that isn't 100% true.

[Firebringer]

pretty sure he is town here. felt like a real rc read on me.
i don't think scum!rc would scumread me like that and in general would only scumread me if that was a consensus on me if he was scum.

but i might be giving him too much credit. when i am scum i don't like scumreading him so i kind of assume he does same for me but i know that isn't 100% true.

ironically this might get him to scumread me harder =)

[Firebringer]

Yes, bantering so I could have a reentry point after missing a day's worth of content and nearly 5 pages while not really being impactful to the game, which is slow to change.

Posting words for the sake of words is more likely to just confuse me in what I have to take seriously. Like, maybe it really is the name or it's the RH signing person, but meme men seems silly even if I try to read it in a seriousus tone.

i see excuses here and i am not going to accept this frame ur trying to pass.
lets shift the focus to some analysis.

i see none in ur iso and ur saying u been disconnected. do u think thats wrong or unfair?

[Firebringer]

Now, who wants to talk about wagonomics?

-rh

don't make me hurt u

[Firebringer]

is this red text going to be a thing all game?

[Firebringer]

i like ur hat disaster

[Firebringer]

RC whats ur read on springtrap

[Firebringer]

Possible scum but not a good day one lynch

and the reason for that would be?

[Firebringer]

i have no opinions on velxon
meme man i think is scummy but not someone i want to focus today

[Firebringer]

Springtrap is going to die before endgame whatever I do, I want to get a flip on scum who wouldn't otherwise die and with all the batshit townreads on ruru, that seems like the one.

What happened to that scumread, Fire?

if ur talking about blackjack its still there, but i don't care about pushing it.

[Firebringer]

also I think if I followed u on that wagon ur scumread of me is only going to get better.
the townier thing to do is be adamantly against it.

but instead I am just going to be indifferent to it

okay now I am just trolling u

[Firebringer]

because u can't win them all kid

[Firebringer]

Am I universally townread yet?

[Firebringer]

Yes please. Engage 'drama llama'.

No u

[Firebringer]

Volxen town
Aster town
RC town
CJ town

Pinturichio probtown

Gamma ? maybe like 1-2 % points more likely town
Firebringer ?

Who is left

U can keep me as scum if ur still not satisfied with my townieness
We here at Firebringer Co really value ur business and want you completely satisfied

[Firebringer]

No.

I think I am though

[Firebringer]

Hmm

[Firebringer]

Rc loves ur old play style keyser

[Firebringer]

{Aster, pinturrichio} are my strongest townreads

Treat anyone who goes after them after I die as confirmed scum

Tempted to vote disaster

[Firebringer]

Now springtrap is mislynch bait?

[Firebringer]

Ur strong arming right now buddy

[Firebringer]

I want u to play the game and realize you some things aren’t In ur control and that’s okay.
If you want to do something make better cases because I don’t think ur case of charisma on blackjack is convincing on why they need to go first

[Firebringer]

Stop

[Firebringer]

ur not getting lynched rc

[Firebringer]

Ur fos is really bad disaster

[Firebringer]

ur both wrong.

[Firebringer]

ur correlating anti town behavior as scum behavior and i am telling u all of rc behavior so far indicate he is playing this as town from my 3+ years of knowing him.

and usually i am not confident in my reads on him and right now i am 99% sure he is town.

[Firebringer]

I had him as null with all the anti town shit he did, but that changed with volxen towning it up

i don't even understand ur point of ur read then

[Firebringer]

I had him as null with all the anti town shit he did, but that changed with volxen towning it up

i don't even understand ur point of ur read then

As scum, I protected a mislynchable town player in order to get a win win situation: if he's mislynched, I get some credit because my read was good; if he's not mislynched, he will still be suspected the next day and will be good MyLo/LyLo material. The reason I had for townreading the mislynchable player? "Guys, I know this guy is town, I've seen it play like this before. Trust me".

I'm not falling for my own strat.

i think rc is known for not explaining reads, to say this is scum motivated or he isn't explaining reads because he is scum is like not knowing or playing with him. and I think this basis for reading him is very superficial and lacks usefulness.

[Firebringer]

Scrolling though posts...

Firebringer = maybe town; 439 is when he realizes game has 4 scumz. had aster and blackjack as scumzies so im willing to believe this statement more cause it shows he wasn't looking for four peeps to start with

counter point:
i have made that post of not knowing the scum numbers as scum before

[Firebringer]

im sorry. i had to ruin ur superficial read.
u can still townread me if u want, but has to be of my natural townieness

[Firebringer]

no it doesn't.
it sounds like a company slogan.

[Firebringer]

give me all the towncred when springtrap flips scum.
ty

[Firebringer]

hey disaster how is it going?

[Firebringer]

If I was a cop I would investigate FireBringer tonight)

I would t

[Firebringer]

Springtrap is like the most boring wagon of all time even if he flips scum

Since when do we lynch people based on interesting wagons

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

Is this a interesting wagon?
Well it has me so I guess it’s pretty lit

[Firebringer]

Firebringer observation was tonal paranoia on his entrance (it was a good point and still stands). I’d need more ‘meat’ than that to lynch him over you. What’s your read on him?

Wait what

[Firebringer]

I felt Firebringer’s vote was awkward

Ur awkward!

Got em

[Firebringer]

Listen people,
Springtrap is scum. I don’t care to spend time making a detailed case but there’s no solving in springtrap a iso. Not even voting anyone.

This is also RC approved so it’s got that going for it. Though if it were disapproved I would also say that’s a good point for it.

Let’s make this game great again! Lynch springtrap

[Firebringer]

If I was a cop I would investigate FireBringer tonight)

I would t

I think you’ll be the hardest slot to sort: you’ve had this nice but nasty (passive aggressive?) tone permeating your interactions, I don’t know how to read it. I think it may be deflective/defensive.

AKA THE MASK

I was making a joke and u ruined it.

I don’t think I am being passive aggressive here but I don’t think arguing it matters

How do you think I am being deflective or passive?

[Firebringer]

Maybe passive aggressive is the wrong term (just looked it up)

I don’t know - Your tone is interesting (I can’t put my finger on it right now, but think it’s ‘something’)

It’s as if I want you to snap out of whatever you’re doing and talk real. Is this normal town-firebringer?

i am always talking real buddy.
i don't know normal town firebringer, id like to meet him one day.

you going to answer question about how i am being defensive/deflective?

[Firebringer]

he isn't

[Firebringer]

anon get behind my springtrap wagon plox.
i shall reward u with lots of gifs/videos

[Firebringer]

anon get behind my springtrap wagon plox.
i shall reward u with lots of gifs/videos

u don't want disaster aster?

win win

I don’t think we got the support for that friendo

[Firebringer]

too bad

game's slow. lurkers. blah blah blah

im voting my scum read; you're sheeping based on an effort wall post from page 12 :l

I’m not sheeping

Well gamma is town

[Firebringer]

Ohh u were talking to gamma

[Firebringer]

Why not poke with ur sharp nails instead

[Firebringer]

same difference~

i am scared of ur nails more.

[Firebringer]

:3p

what does this emoji mean.
i am unfamiliar with ti

[Firebringer]

it was a silly read. not a read really now it is a null/scum read.
but if i don't have any indepth analysis of disaster.

i don't really think disaster should be lynched today, but i kind of agree with ur analysis on disaster

[Firebringer]

I have to read what keyser said.

[Firebringer]

Then Springtap votes BJ...
I feel like the Pint vote may have triggered something in Springtap (who has been closed guarded all game, he must have been feeling/thinking something but did not share it). This looks to me like a vote he ‘had’ to do (either the prime bus position, or survivalist vote ).

Springtap then gets lambasted for it from a few players. Swiftly unvotes:

“noticed I was being scummy, so now I'm being quiet and accepting that I'll have to be lynched before LyLo or MyLo but I'd rather not hurt town by being hung day 1.”

(Reeks of AtE)... then ends with a ‘ahhh BJ is town afterall’.

Yeah right.

Dont think spring was ateing but I think that post was scum aligned

I found other things in springs posts that was scummy in tone

[Firebringer]

By the way, I skipped the first discussion 'cause it seemed too early to be serious, but I'll read it now since, as I understand, it was serious for some players.

In other news, I didn't like BJs' entrance. The post was fine, I laughed, but seems like it was prepared before the game started. My problema with that is that it was a huge post and it's obvious that took a lot of effort. I tend to scumread people who puts that much of an effort on RVS; preparing a post before the game starts is past that line. Does someone else has another point of view about this?

Wouldn't it make more sense to call Gamma out for the RQS post for being pretty big and before the game even started? He put more effort in, IMO.

I think I can do either Fire, Keyser, Ceejay or Spring today

Mainly Ceejay to be honest, and if no one wants Ceejay that has been kinda sly, I can go to Spring.

Keyser or Fire would be a compromisse if no one posts a good case for they, because even if we try to lynch them, if they flip town, we'll not only have mislynched but will have kept alive unreadable or lurking slots.

VOTE: Spring

If someone changes vote to Ceejay I can go over there.

Honestly though? I don't think Spring is flipping scum here at all.

hey i am not lurking

[Firebringer]

disaster if it u took four hours to come to the conclusion of "null", i am sorry but ur wasting ur time.

[Firebringer]

AnonymousGhost, in the above post you dismiss "doesn't take a firm position on anyone" as a valid scumtell. Yet somehow you seem to be pushing a bandwagon against me based on nothing but "doesn't take a firm position on anyone". It seems to me that you are unable to keep your scumtells straight and are just saying whatever happens to be convenient for you. Do I have to explain why this is scummy?

its not tho

[Firebringer]

we did it.

I get all the towncred for scumflip guys

[Firebringer]

there was already a lynch.
and i wont go eat lunch till u get back

[Firebringer]

Rc fooled me gw.
Wasn’t gonna play this with mastina

[Firebringer]

thanks ghost, I like playing with u too