Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]
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This better show up in my "View Your Posts" list....
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So... what the hell did I miss?- AnonymousGhost
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Elaborate?In post 821, Nibbui wrote:mmmmh, we all being scummy I guess?- AnonymousGhost
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@Nibbui - "by standard"?
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@Aster- So between then (Page 12) and now (Page 34), is your case on my predecessor still valid? I haven't looked at the mod's ISO for the VCs between then and now to see if you moved your vote between then and now or if you're vote sitting from page 12.
@Anyone- Someone please explain the wagons and the reasons behind them.- AnonymousGhost
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That was a lot less painful than I thought it'd be.In post 836, AnonymousGhost wrote:I haven't looked at the mod's ISO for the VCs between then and now to see if you moved your vote between then and now or if you're vote sitting from page 12.
I'm ignoring my predecessor's posts - because yay~ that much less to read!!! - but does that pattern you noticed from my predecessor continue after your post in 297? If so, can you point me in the direction of their posts? Thanks.
Pedit: @Nibbui - Where did you make your case? Gimme a ballpark page. Thanks.- AnonymousGhost
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Spring - is this a newbie or someone's alt?
Volxen - is his engagement related to fighting off his wagon?
BlackJack - meta driven wagons are meh. is BlackJack the reason why Volxen got engaged? I see that Keyser's the starting vote, but I'm still on Page 10
Ceejay - i haven't checked to see if what you say about Ceejay's lack of stance is true yet
In post 815, Nibbui wrote:- Later when Volxen says that Ceejay did try to frame him as scum,hegives up and votes BlackJack when their wagon starts to build up@Nibbui- Who are you referring to here? (bolded part)- AnonymousGhost
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Your POV?In post 843, Nibbui wrote:Volxen - Kinda. You definitely can say that from a certain pov.
and now they're both on BlackJack's wagon...In post 815, Nibbui wrote:- He actually tries to frame Volxen the same way he did in a scum game of his
- Later when Volxen says that Ceejay did try to frame him as scum, he gives up and votes BlackJack when their wagon starts to build up
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I wonder if that could be early scum distancing attempt- AnonymousGhost
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VOTE: Volxen
368 gives me "dead horse" vibes. Feel like it could have scum motive by following the leader i.e. X does something, couple of people react with Z, so scum follows suit to fit in.- AnonymousGhost
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Scrolling though posts...
Firebringer = maybe town; 439 is when he realizes game has 4 scumz. had aster and blackjack as scumzies so im willing to believe this statement more cause it shows he wasn't looking for four peeps to start with- AnonymousGhost
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this seems a bit hasty ATM this was postedIn post 469, Nibbui wrote:Like, as long as MEMEMEN keep up this highly contradictory behavior I don't think we'll get a firm read on Aster since she'll not need to go off by speculations (what would be way more helpful to read her), but will always have the perfect inquestionably case where we always look at MEMEMAN and wonder "is he just scum or is he kinda thoughtless?".
aster had made some other reads to other players. why aren't those cases being used - presumably by you - to determine her (his? the avatar is throwing me off. sorry aster) alignment?- AnonymousGhost
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tis official 393 is whip cream. lots of words, but when you break it down into a single sentence... not much substance to it.
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Gamma EmeraldIn post 393, Aster wrote:Most unfortunately lurking isn't alignment indicative, which makes it hard for me to establish any proper read on them.
KeyzerIn post 393, Aster wrote:His active lurking while dancing around "my meta has changed" and calling it a town meta (323) does draw my attention as potentially scummy.
PintIn post 393, Aster wrote:So far Keyser Söze has given me no concrete reasons to think he's town nor reasons to believe he's scum. I'm writing him as "neutral".
In a nutshell...In post 393, Aster wrote:I am somewhat wary of pinturicchio because of this.
BlackJack = null
Gamma = potentially scummy
Keyzer = null
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In post 480, Clemency wrote:i think volxen should be the lynch if we don't find any better options@Clemeny- does this mean that Volxen was a scum read for you ATM you posted this?- AnonymousGhost
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VOTE: Aster - I like this better. :3
@Aster- so besides pointing out RC's chainsaw defense of Volxen in 751 and reaching an FoS on the both of them... did that post get you any closer to sorting out their alignments?- AnonymousGhost
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all caught up~
Spring's firmly in the camp that the slot will resolve later. Either the majority will lynch this slot off before LyLo or scum might kill it off because it's the weakest link me thinks.In post 840, Nibbui wrote:Spring for being kinda awkward and not contributing much to the game.
guy's null for me right now.In post 840, Nibbui wrote:Volxen for early not being much engaged until his wagon kicked off.
i don't trust meta reads/wagons, so the first point is bleh. Their push against Volxen - specifically them noticing his parroting - feels town.In post 840, Nibbui wrote:BlackJack because one of the heads is playing differently but the explanation is because they created this hydra exactly because they wanted a less tryhard approach, also they did hard scum read Volxen since very early.
Only one of your points in 815 is legit (joining the BlackJack wagon). the rest are just conf bias or differences in play style.In post 840, Nibbui wrote:Ceejay for the reasons I explained in the last 2 pages or so.- AnonymousGhost
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meh.In post 868, AnonymousGhost wrote:Spring's firmly in the camp that the slot will resolve later.
clemency can go here too.- AnonymousGhost
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In post 820, Springtrap wrote:I'll mainly use my vote as an incentive for town to use at their leisure until I see something of true value being pushed. Blackjacks does seem more town though.@Springtrap- What would be something of true value to you?
Can you point me in the direction where BlackJack seems town to you? That's if you can't put your finger on why exactly they seem more town to you.- AnonymousGhost
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In post 850, Clemency wrote:i got intimidated by the copious amounts of really good high effort players@Clemency- Who do you feel is giving a good high effort? What's your read on them?- AnonymousGhost
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Which ones in particular?In post 872, Springtrap wrote:His responses seem individual, and less group I guess?
And while you're at it, can you identify which of Aster's post ping you as indecisive?- AnonymousGhost
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Town's on MS - as MathDino points out - can't function with a D1 scum lynch as they almost always dissolve into finger pointing. By having the weakest player sacrifice, that's basically acting in the place of a D1 scum lynch, thus more chaos in the town the following day.In post 872, Springtrap wrote:By the mechanic of scum being able to kill their own before they can be lynched, doesn't that give a possibility of a weak player be towncleared for the simple reason that scum cant afford to have them lynched?
As CFJ points out, it's easier to sacrifice earlier than later when the stakes are higher.- AnonymousGhost
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Like imagine if you have a scum team and one of your partner's is really bad or gets caught early on. You can't do much other than bus or defend - which have their own pros & cons. Picture sacrificing the weak link like those lizards who can cut off their own tail. The predator's preoccupied with the twitching limb, while the lizard gets off scot free and better off.- AnonymousGhost
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Not necessarily. It's in town's best interest to try to lynch scum that preferably aren't the weakest link. In this scenario, scum are worse off - probs - cause one of their better team mates took a dirt nap, which means it's up to the rest of the team to try and carry itself to victory.In post 879, Springtrap wrote:So... It's in town's best interest to not scumhunt day 1 but instead get the weakest link? That Seems counterproductive.
Which is a bit of a difficult thing to do when you're already one foot in the grave and town only need to lynch one more to win. If the weakest link had connections to the stronger player, town might push the weak link's lynch through and GG.
Albeit, this whole idea goes out the window if the scum team doesn't have a weak link to begin with.- AnonymousGhost
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i just woke up/am still dead tiredIn post 909, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hi anonygo talk to me about read pls
aster's my scum read. 393 pinged me as fluff, 3 null reads, and a potentially scummy read on Gamma & 751 pinged me as throwing a weak FoS link between you and Volxen w/o solving your alignments.
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talk to me about Pint & Nibbuls.In post 898, RadiantCowbells wrote:{RC}
{Pinturicchio, Nibbuls, Aster}
{Blackjacks, Volxen}
{ceejay, gamma, clemency, anonygo}
-null line- {firebringer}
then with {keyser, springtrap} as actual scumreads- AnonymousGhost
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Hey Spring,In post 880, Springtrap wrote:I'll think about it, but for now I'll go to sleep. Remind me to point out my reasoning for liking Aster less then Blackjack when I get back.
Can you point this out when you have the time? Thanks.- AnonymousGhost
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@BlackJac- explain town clemency & pintu read?- AnonymousGhost
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Yeah. Cuz I want your wagon.In post 945, Aster wrote:Your attitude seems to amount to "I don't care whether Spring is town or scum because town will kill him anyway". You're neither supporting nor opposing the Springwagon, but want to declare you're explicitly apathetic toward it?- AnonymousGhost
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You know you can just straight up call me scummy/scum right?In post 945, Aster wrote:I'd personally say that since we only need to lynch two out of four scum, we can affort to ignore and not lynch the unreadable doodlebags while lynching the readable scumbags. I would not say that we can ignore the unreadable doodlebags because we're going to lynch them anyway. That would be a pretty scummy pro- AnonymousGhost
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also why is this what you're focusing on when we've got less than a day to get a majority???? priorities bleh bleh blehIn post 959, AnonymousGhost wrote:
You know you can just straight up call me scummy/scum right?In post 945, Aster wrote:I'd personally say that since we only need to lynch two out of four scum, we can affort to ignore and not lynch the unreadable doodlebags while lynching the readable scumbags. I would not say that we can ignore the unreadable doodlebags because we're going to lynch them anyway. That would be a pretty scummy pro
talk to me please
ignore me while i throw random spur of the moment thoughts at the wall
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EWBOPIn post 962, AnonymousGhost wrote:less than a day to get a majority
oh nvm
we got more than a day!- AnonymousGhost
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@Keyser- im bored
you're here
lets talk!
please explain the BJ/Spring association idea. thanks~- AnonymousGhost
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you can?
i suck at VC
walk me through your conclusion
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her current scum reads are myself - explicitly from Meme - and then Gamma who was listed as "potentially scummy" all the way back from page 16.In post 983, Keyser Söze wrote:Aster is articulate and cutting with her observations: she hasn’t held back, strutting like a ‘smug’ townie. I think her over confidence in her own sorting makes her shortsighted though: I.e her take on RC and Volxen. If she were to open up in real-time (where tone can be more easierly expressed); and one of her scum reads flips scum, I’ll probably move her up to Nib/RC tier of town.
I don’t think she’s ever the D1 lynch.
her current reads are basically a bunch of nulls are pretty much the entire player list:
In post 752, Aster wrote:'m still feeling neutral about Blackjacks aside from the part that I suspect scum may be pushing against them.In post 944, Aster wrote:In post 867, AnonymousGhost wrote:
@Aster - so besides pointing out RC's chainsaw defense of Volxen in 751 and reaching an FoS on the both of them... did that post get you any closer to sorting out their alignments?
Besides that? No.In post 860, AnonymousGhost wrote:tis official 393 is whip cream. lots of words, but when you break it down into a single sentence... not much substance to it.
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In post 393, Aster wrote:
Most unfortunately lurking isn't alignment indicative, which makes it hard for me to establish any proper read on them.
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In post 393, Aster wrote:
His active lurking while dancing around "my meta has changed" and calling it a town meta (323) does draw my attention as potentially scummy.
Keyzer
In post 393, Aster wrote:
So far Keyser Söze has given me no concrete reasons to think he's town nor reasons to believe he's scum. I'm writing him as "neutral".
Pint
In post 393, Aster wrote:
I am somewhat wary of pinturicchio because of this.
In a nutshell...
BlackJack = null
Gamma = potentially scummy
Keyzer = null- AnonymousGhost
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if it ain't obvious... i don't think aster's done much game solving.
sure she'ssaida lot and done a lot of analyzation, but she hasn't done anything with that analysis i.e. getting a read on peeps' alignments hence scum
albeit this is a low fucking bar to pass cuz lurkers lololo- AnonymousGhost
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it depends. are you?In post 1003, Gamma Emerald wrote:So are we lynching our actual scumreads or just nullreads- AnonymousGhost
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u don't want disaster aster?In post 1007, Firebringer wrote:anon get behind my springtrap wagon plox.
i shall reward u with lots of gifs/videos
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then how do you know if peeps are doing the latter if you're checked out?- AnonymousGhost
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too bad
game's slow. lurkers. blah blah blah
im voting my scum read; you're sheeping based on an effort wall post from page 12 :l- AnonymousGhost
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when peeps don't play i get annoyed and then i poke - with a very sharp stick- AnonymousGhost
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what makes you think i wanted you to change your mind? i just wanted you to play - the outcome wasn't the goal ;3p- AnonymousGhost
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@gamma
not really
i apologize if i overstepped my boundaries and attacked you as a person though
im still annoyed at the lurkers/general thread activity, but im happy you got involved and couldn't care less about the result of our interaction cause that means i can go back and try to get a read on your alignment
cause yay! activity~
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basically this
btw refresh my memory
what was the progress of your aster read? BJ said it started out silly, but did it become a srs read between then and now?- AnonymousGhost
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ok
do your thoughts about Scum!Spring align with what Keyser has said about Springtrap in terms of scum reading 'em? - AnonymousGhost
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