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Echo Bay how I've missed you.... the last time we were together I was a mere bullet-ridden, maniacal AskJeeves engineer, hellbent on the destruction of those who dare to abuse search engine optimisation. but things are different now. I am an older, wiser duck and I'm back to rid you of evil FOREVER- the worst
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Nancy throw me your reads in as little or as much detail as you can muster?- the worst
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LG could you fill me in on what's happened that's been significant? TheBrie if you could do this too that'd be awesome
there's like a 7% chance I'll read all of this thread and it'll 100% be after marathon weekend if it happens- the worst
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Talk to me about Purrc?
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okay
do we have an explanation for the strangely high number of deaths? also @nancy what's got TheBrie at mech-sk/scum?
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how about kokichi tho?
My mind is kinda blown we have 4 d3 vig claims- the worst
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ftr we almost certainly have exactly 3 scum left alive and xyzzy being xyzzy I wholeheartedly believe we might be looking at 2 groupscum
I'd rather keep an sk than groupscum around in prob-MyLo though so we're lynching to hit them- the worst
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why does your alignment confirm vonflare's? I'm also amazed he wasn't vigged given there's like an exactly 100% chance he flips red?- the worst
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is Kokichi town?- the worst
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@Purrc talk to me kitty friend
what were your night actions?
who's scumz- the worst
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one vote is fine but I'll request nobody is brought to L-3 until I'm feeling more in sync (probably gonna be sometime next week given marathon party time)- the worst
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dayvig is handily a confirmable role, has he killed someone? as long as as he's actually playing a towngame I'm okay with taking his claim at face value I guess, two identical scum power roles would be.... less than expected......- the worst
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@Nancy I can't sink too much towncred into a vote this late on such a massive wagon - it's a very good busIn post 2491, xyzzy wrote:
That being said I definitely agree his proven dayvig cc is >rand town given the other flipped dayvigs and like 100 times moreso if TheBrie is actually scum/sk- the worst
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i'm getting tiny tiny shimmers of town from lg as wellIn post 4108, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
@twIn post 4101, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Vax flipped town fruit vendor.In post 4095, Purrcocet wrote:i dont think you know what mechanically confirmed means
I townread you until you gave fruit to Wisdom after he mislynched Gamma, then voted him. Plus, I think Light is town.
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hi-dermanIn post 4112, Enter wrote:In post 4077, the worst wrote:Hi confused I'm the worst
What are groupscum?In post 4090, the worst wrote:ftr we almost certainly have exactly 3 scum left alive and xyzzy being xyzzy I wholeheartedly believe we might be looking at 2 groupscum
I'd rather keep an sk than groupscum around in prob-MyLo though so we're lynching to hit them
groupscum = teh mafia, anti-town players with like more than one person in their faction
as opposed to soloscum (a la sk, jester, etc.)- the worst
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{TW}
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{Nacny, LG}
{everyone else}
{Purrc}
I don't feel like an intense sense of urgency yet bc no deadlines + i'm more hyped for marathon weekend rn than this game
But i'll be back to solve this binch i promise- the worst
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In post 871, xyzzy wrote:profii has died, and was a town non-consecutive jack of all trades.
CheekyTeeky has died, and was a town day-3 vigilante.In post 3153, xyzzy wrote:Jingle has died, and was a town triple voter.
Dannflor has died, and was a mafia day 3 vigilante.In post 3446, xyzzy wrote:Wagonomics has died, and was a town 3-month vigilante.
Trekkie99 has died, and was a townie.
How many of these have been claimed btw? (I obviously missed a multiquote)In post 4023, xyzzy wrote:Wisdom has died, and was a town fruit-enabled vigilante.
Xtoxm has died, and was a town neighbor.- the worst
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What did you do on the other nights?- the worst
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probably shows i'm still getting into the swing of this game.- the worst
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Kokichi where are your reads at?- the worst
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We are indeed a vanilla townie.
Sorry still done nothing - marathon weekend. I'll be here. Lack of deadline is making me feel okay about being busy for a few days.- the worst
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TheBrie we're treating as mechtown until we have more groupscum flips
Nancy is probably town for engaging me so assertively on entry to the thread (this read I'll double check out of respect for her scumgame and Nancy knows why)
Kokichi >rand town via the claim and idrk how to read low energy kokichi but he's not tryharding and I think his ISO is acceptable within his townrange
light_ganski weaker townread- the worst
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I'm town
groupscum poe {von, Enter, Purrc}- the worst
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More that I don't really townread him - I do think he's probably the most likely to be town in that group.- the worst
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I think what's tickling my brain the hardest is that vonflare is a 100% guaranteed red flip and I am starting to doubt his claim really hard- the worst
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@TB can you vig vonflare tonight?- the worst
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We've had 3 scumflips (2 group + jester) which means we very very likely have exactly 3 scum left. Do you see why I'm starting to suspect vonflare's claim heavily?
either way lynching Purr and vigging Von should give us a groupscum flip--i'd rather give the game to TheBrie as a sk via negligence than lynch her and let the game go to the mafia. so for now we're treating her as locktown vig until the final phase.
if our PoE is so fucked that neither Purrc/vonflare are scum (team of like Enter/light_ganski? ╮(╯▽╰)╭) I don't really think it's something we can solve right now.
Purrc is just looking objectively wolfy to me. vonflare is likely fakeclaiming and I'm not seeing the signs of town!flare I remember so I want that dead. I feel good about getting at least one groupscum in this pool, and like... vonflare has claimed death miller anyway so invariably flips red.... worst case scenario he's a second jester? in which case vigging him fixes our problems.
a 5p of {tw, Nancy, LG, tb, enter, koki} minus whoever groupscum kill also appeals to me. it wipes a lot of the mechanical solve messiness off the table and means we can concentrate on who is more likely to be scum by play.- the worst
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the {purrc, von} PoE is coincidentally also the people it's best to kill tactically to remove mechsolve wifom- the worst
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I want to put on my scum in the hood finfoil hat but that actually worked in mafia month so I'm not sure I trust xyzzy to just do the same thing again. they're too creative for that
they also like symmetry (referring to echo bay grits seo) so matching roles belonging to the same alignment doesn't really bother me all that much.
If I'm understanding the excerpts from Wisdom's ISO right purrc actually has a fruit missing and hasn't claimed a modifier. I think that's outright a soft guilty.
Death miller is Just Clumsy Enough It Might Work but I think von's ISO is perspective slippy and I don't think it's actually a townclaim
that's about all I've got. I'm sorry. burned a lot of my wim playing marathons and I was already pretty rundown.- the worst
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vote on Purrcocet in spirit. gonna wait for TB to confirm she can vig vonflare.- the worst
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fucking mafia have a roleblocker okay
if we line up a communal vig target scum just roleblock TheBrie unless the vonflare kill is a misvig that's going to win them the game
we actually need to lynch to hit the roleblocker- the worst
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Kokichi Oma - just checked, confvig
Enter - commuter (can anyone verify via night actions?)
TheBrie - un-cc'd vig
light_ganski - vt
Purrcocet - confirmed fv
vonflare - claimed death miller
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I need verification on Enter's claim. I have a deep uncomfortable feeling about the gamestate rn. I might be getting a bit too excited about something as well.
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has anyone tried to target him and failed? tbqh commuter is a little bit weird in a noninvestigative setup - he might have been immune to being fruit vended? and jailkept too I guess- the worst
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I feel more confident on Purrc scum holistically but vonflare actually has roleblocker equity but also like
if the scumteam is goon + vig + fv + rb and I was the roleblocker I don't think I'd open day one by hardclaiming death miller. it's a policy lynch/vig roleclaim and like scum roleblockers are insanely strong
it could be a crazy wifom play by all means and I frankly have no idea how vonflare plays scum but it doesn't like... sit comfortably in my gut
pedit: yeah the fact you haven't been cc'd on the nightkills is ---rb equity for you as well. like there's a nonzero chance kokichi could be a dayvig nightroleblocker but that would be pretty stupid- the worst
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could I ask for a quick summary of your reads? tiered would be great if you do tiered reads- the worst
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xyzzy being xyzzy, nothing would surprise me. But it's also much more likely that she's {town, sk} as opposed to a second mafia dayvig. Considering groupscum likely still have the numbers, we absolutely can't kill her until groupscum are dead.
I'm not saying that we need to treat her as lock cleared town forever. Just that for the purposes of today's solve she's strictly outside of the PoE. we finish off the mafia first, and if the game isn't over we lynch her last.- the worst
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[rant]WHY DID NOBODY THINK TO FUCKING VIG THE FUCKING DEATH MILLER[/rant]- the worst
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In post 10, vonflare wrote:^death miller btw. I flip scum tooIn post 867, vonflare wrote:In post 865, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
It’s very uncommon outside of FakeGod games, to have 2 town JKs in the same game.In post 864, Xtoxm wrote:can someone explains why a duplicate role means something in a 24p game
This is a bastard game remember
this actually isn't as bad as I remember it being but on first read the "how bastard has this game been?" thing pinged me heavily as a "does my claim make sense?" kind of thing but in hindsight I guess it kinda makes senseIn post 4135, vonflare wrote:how bastard has this game been so far? I haven't been paying attention.
Is there a possibility that I might actually be scum, but told in my role that I'm town?
I don't have any targeted actions tho, so i couldn't have roleblocked anyone
it does sit weirdly with me that like vonflare... plays xyzzy setups... and knows they tend to go for elegant bastardry at most... but this probably isn't as scumclaimy as I thought- the worst
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the issue I have rn is I don't feel like the rb is in our PoE. it could be Enter if he's fakeclaiming or LG and other than that I don't really know who it's meant to be.In post 4169, the worst wrote:Kokichi Oma - just checked, confvig
Enter - commuter (can anyone verify via night actions?)
TheBrie - un-cc'd vig
light_ganski - vt
Purrcocet - confirmed fv
vonflare - claimed death miller
the worst - vt
Nancy Drew 39 - neighbour
I think Purrc has the highest chance of flipping scum bluntly. but the other plan is we lynch into the high rb equity pool and fucking pray that we hit them.
just a reminder if we don't hit the roleblocker TB doesn't have a kill like 90% of the time which might put us into 2v1v2 tomorrow which is a probable town loss
I'm not sure this is a great idea but it's an option because I feel like the gamestate is a little bit smothering atm- the worst
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basically I feel like
option A: lynch Purrc who is wolfy and probscum but a confirmed fv => tb shoots vonflare (probably fails regardless) => we're in... assuming purrc is groupscum we're most likely in 1v1v4 / 2v4 tomorrow which is workable. if Purrc is green town loses.
option B: flip vonflare and purrc in the above and proceed as before. ditto if vonflare is town (he still probably flips red) we lose - I prefer this less because of the chance of jesterhood and and the purrc lynch Just Feels Right to me
option C: we no lynch, TheBrie holsters tonight, we place our trousers on our head and decide who is most likely to be the roleblocker in f7
@Nancy/TB/Enter/Kokichi/TB I'm coming around to thinking it's just best to just follow plan A until 3/4p and if the game hasn't ended we deal with the possibility of a serial killer then. I'll vote Purrc in a few hours if I don't hear any objections.- the worst
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Yes - usually if xyzzy uses bastardry they include it in the advertisements for the game.In post 4187, TheBrie wrote:By elegant bastardry, you mean that it's unlikely Xyzzy is messing with us so much as Vonflare was suggesting?
That post there does ring true to me, which worries me a lot.
I'm thinking of Mafia Month which had an abnormal mechanic of suddenly ending after 30 days
Echo Bay Grits SEO where everyone was a dayvig
This Blitz Has a Cult In It where the title includes the bastard mechanic
MAFIA MARATHON: APOCALYPSE where the game ended at the end of the weekend
they don't seem to include bastard mechanics for the sake of it? the month 3 cop is pretty intuitive given the central mechanic of this game where the death miller is just kinda.... lolbastard. it doesn't really add to or effect the public mechanic.
Sorry I know this is waffly and it's such a bizarre fakeclaim if vonflare is actually faking it, it just doesn't feel right and I'm so mad it hasn't been vigged- the worst
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hlepIn post 421, xyzzy wrote:Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)- by definition this game has direct moderator influence, because there's nothing stopping me from doing something like setting a very short deadline if I want a particular outcome to happen. as for everything else on this list, I won't rule out the possibility.- the worst
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VOTE: Purrcocet
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If this randomly somehow loses the game I accept absolutely no responsibility- the worst
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It seemed like a good idea in a moment of hysteria but realistically it's more of a "it would have been nice if one of the flipped scum was the rb" kinda thing- the worst
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I'll take that. I might need to humbly request 3% of the credit if it goes well.- the worst
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Von remember that time we clashed on profii really hard and spend the entire game yelling at each other until I got lolvigged by chickadee?
those were good times
what's on your mind this game?- the worst
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If you self hammered as town I'll be pissed.
This has to be scum :/- the worst
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VOTE: light_ganski
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Nancy is town. After Merchants Daughter p2 ended I did some due diligence and there's shit in her ISO which she can't fake as scum - if this is a second scumgame she's been running concurrently to powerwolfing in both merchants daughter games with completely different wolf styles then I'm a fucking goose.- the worst
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UNVOTE: ugh I'll talk through this later. I don't know why I'm so anxious about this.- the worst
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LG is the scum roleblocker Enter.
Unless your commuter claim is fake or Nancy is like.... a mafia neighbour rolebocker which is ridiculous when there's a goon.
There isn't a werewolf faction. Vonflare was actually a death miller. If there was a werewolf team with a roleblocker they would have just blocked TB last night and remained totally anonymous.
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