no deadlines mafia [game over]

[profii]

Woah woah guys these votes
We have no deadlines
What's the rush?

Also, I'm in a PT with Party Boat, Xtoxm, and Nancy Drew 39.
This PT began before gamestart.
We've currently got about 15 posts in there.
It's fairly chill.
That's all I wanted to say.

I was in a mafia month game and I was the scum in the neighbourhood.

VOTE: Party Boat

[profii]

Woah woah guys these votes
We have no deadlines
What's the rush?

Also, I'm in a PT with Party Boat, Xtoxm, and Nancy Drew 39.
This PT began before gamestart.
We've currently got about 15 posts in there.
It's fairly chill.
That's all I wanted to say.

I was in a mafia month game and I was the scum in the neighbourhood.

VOTE: Party Boat

I dislike this logic. Just because you infiltrated a community in the past does not mean someone is automatically infiltrating that community.

It was less about my infiltrating anything and more about the same mod doing the same mafia month thing

if it was up to me we'd have a 3rd page lynch to get things rolling as this is a timed game and when I was scum last time I was actively being like 'oh I'll do that analysis this weekend' etc to slow people down.

[profii]

I think the game I played took 21 days so about 2/3rds of the allotted time and that was a 13p.

Whilst I am "getting on with it" right now. I will be strongly advocating a policy lynch if some lurkers emerge by say Friday.

[profii]

I am

Ausuka, koki, Vonflare are also here.

Idk, I think we have a lot of players to get through in a month. Maybe multiball will knock the numbers down to balance things out

[profii]

I am proper thick I just assumed it was a month again and it's infact the opposite, I assumed no deadlines somehow meant but you have an overall month to fit the game in

[profii]

Logic is lost on you apparently. Not trying to insult you, just very exasperated.

I dunno why I got the impression it was mafia month again... oops

[profii]

I'm liable to believe that at least one of the four people in my PT is scum, which is why I decided to out the PT in the first place.
That said, it's a fallacy to assume that the same ratio of town to scum in the main thread applies to any PT, so I'd prefer we didn't hunt out of that PT group.

VOTE: Profii

this almost looks like a serious vote

[profii]

It kinda is.
How else am I gonna have discussions about smash bros if you smash my neighborhood bros?

so from your POV you are town

so from your POV you have a 1 in 3 chance in hitting scum if you concentrate on those dudes.

But you think it's better to look for X number of scum out of 20+ players?

How come?

[profii]

lol yeah that's fair

to be fair now I realise it's no deadlines rather than 30 day max there is no need to speed lynch so also no need to guess the mod and just go for a random in the hood type deal.

I just thought I'd question you as we are seemingly emerging from RVS here

[profii]

I am

Ausuka, koki, Vonflare are also here.

Idk, I think we have a lot of players to get through in a month. Maybe multiball will knock the numbers down to balance things out

What makes you think this is multiball?

A mistake - ignore - I thought the whole game was on a month deadline so we’d need 2 night kills for balance but I didn’t read the rules properly

I basically just joined because every time I logged on I saw xyzzy asking in site chat and it got to L-1 so I just rushed in

[profii]

Note to self: Don't make jokes, because they're never understood.

No no, lynch all the serious people

Make MafiaScum funny again!

We could probably put that on a baseball cap

[profii]

Note to self: Don't make jokes, because they're never understood.

No no, lynch all the serious people

Make MafiaScum funny again!

We could probably put that on a baseball cap

Someone should mod a game, where everything save the votes, flips and role PMs, are done in memes.

Better yet, make even those memes

yea, no half measures in this great game!

[profii]

I think it's just wifom at this stage - there may or may not be scum in the 'hood.

[profii]

I'm liable to believe that at least one of the four people in my PT is scum, which is why I decided to out the PT in the first place.
That said, it's a fallacy to assume that the same ratio of town to scum in the main thread applies to any PT, so I'd prefer we didn't hunt out of that PT group.

VOTE: Profii

nah I didn't think this was RVS at the time because I did something and Varsoon voted me for it - that's not random.

It's arguably low-info voting stage, which is how I like to deal with RVS which is why I said we are "emerging" from truly random into "low info" where the cases are generally poop but the game gets going.

That being said, we have to start somewhere, so we have the quote above and the quote below

'cus it's a fallacy to assume the same ratios exist within a neighborhood.
If we're all town in there and I make the mistake of assuming one of us is scum, then I have a 100% chance of mislynching if I concentrate there, whereas the game thread ALWAYS has the assured setup ratio.
And I know if I mislynch in there I'll sunk cost it and keep lynching in there
and if they all flip town then I know I'm up shit creek for being the last one left.
Does that make sense?

we also have 15 where Varsoon basically says "there is a hood"

It was ME that suggested there could be scum in the hood in my haste when I thought we had deadlines to which, Varsoon made post 49...

he says

"I'm liable to believe that at least one of the four people in my PT is scum"

what does "I'm liable to believe" even mean? kinda feels a bit like he's saying "it'll be you lot that leads me into lynching within the hood, not me pushing it" almost a bit "not my fault we mislynched" so you could _conclude_ he is shifting blame for inevitable mislynches - how we he know if it's a mislynch? if he is scum in the hood

so I don't like that turn of phrase.

So then he goes a bit further into the logical fallacy of it all - which is true but, given the vibe I'm getting from above it again comes over as "yeah sure hunt in the hood if you want, but I aint leading that shit because I wont get stitched up for that mislynch, so I suggest hunting outside the hood, which puts me at a lot less risk"

again this phrase:

"And I know if I mislynch in there I'll sunk cost it and keep lynching in there"

he is right - if we restrict the lynch pool and commit to lynching in the hood, we _could_ end up doubling down


so yeah I don't like this at all

VOTE: Varsoon

[profii]

you mean the hood you are allegedly in?

[profii]

Clearly just trying to protect my own ass, tho.

Profii doesn't even consider my post from a town PoV.

interesting - by saying protect my own ass, you clearly understand what I was getting at.

but by saying I don't consider your post from a town PoV I would suggest you are ignoring

lol yeah that's fair

which was me reading your initial explanation, was quite valid and that a restricted lynch pool is a risk/fallacy

It was only when Cheeky asked me about you being in RVS (noting that is specifically not about the hood) that I looked into the language in your post and considered that there is an element of cover your ass to what you are saying, which could be scum!varsoon directing people entirely away from the hood.



You worry me Varsoon.

[profii]

pegging this down for the actual mod/dead PT dive, cos I'm reading the main thread first to see who was arguing Varsoon's point for here and who was arguing profii's point for here

[profii]

@Profii: that's the thing, though--I still said we should just lynch people ignoring the Neighborhood pool, and if we happened to lynch someone in the Neighborhood, it'd be based on their play in the game rather than hood PoE.

If I wanted to be survivalistic about it, I'd probably just not claim the hood at all, work towards pocketing the people inside of it, and hope that their eventual testimony towards me would make the hood look like a double-blind masonry. That's actually a huge part of why I moved to out it; I didn't want hood interactions coloring things in a way that wouldn't be evident in the main game thread.

P-EDIT: There was the hood that all the red mages were in, Valakut.

out of interest did you discuss outing the hood in pre game or did you make that decision yourself?

[profii]

why is a 1 poster being wagoned

can you two talk about your votes there

gotta get people to contribute something meaningful before the deadl....


oh wait

[profii]

I think i have an idea of who wagonomics might be but i wont guess/out

[profii]

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CheekyTeeky
sheep
Nancy
Gamma

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purrcocet
Koki
0verk1ll
Ausuka
Edosurist
vax
singletonking
wagonomics
Party boat
TheBrie
Hebichan
wisdom
xtoxm
vonflare

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theta
varsoon
Jaylow
leodanny

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despite a lot being in the middle nully sort of area they are sort of sorted a bit but just not with strong enough vibes to get them over the line into the town or scum sections.
The low posters should mainly be in the middle as total nullers though.


VOTE: leodanny

seems to be a lot of noise and not a lot of scum hunting here

[profii]

Why Leo over Jay? I could really lynch Jay.

Leo is now 23 posts deep - he has had a chance to mess around in RVS and start doing something... let's give the 1 poster/nothing ISOs a chance to shine or hang themselves a bit more... this is a no deadline game after all, I suppose we have to excuse the less hasty for a bit

[profii]

Leo this will help us sort you

Tell us you top 3 scum suspects and why you think those people might be scum

If you can’t think of 3 - please come up with a good reason for the 1 or 2 people you do find scummy

[profii]

Alonzo

[profii]

Also Ausuka I had exactly the same thought as you did - the Leo wagon went flying

But my reaction was “probably best to see if he is always like this” rather than raise a concern

[profii]

Im doubling down on my Leo scum read right now

[profii]

Also I'm seeing why Leo is getting wagoned here, his posts read really awkward, but given that he somehow hit L-2/3 so early in such a large game gives me really bad feelings from the wagon.

Although I've yet to read the later posts so

I agree with you comments about wagon speed but Leo really was _that_ bad to warrant it imo

[profii]

I kinda feel like Varsooon fits the scum wagon therefore it stalled theory quite well

[profii]

I think leo has legit no idea whats going on

UNVOTE:

[profii]

where is Ausuka

[profii]

see i just get more and more confident that leo will flip wolf the more people come and say nahhhhhhh

[profii]

at this point i think i would switch to leo at any point if varsoon lynch isnt happening

Do it

[profii]

I just joined this game from site chat spam

did people sign up for a relaxed paced game or is the no deadline thing just a shtick we can do whatever we want with.


or phrased slightly differently - if we push for a quick day, are we going to upset a contingent of players who are purposely looking to chill

caveat - I don't care if we are going to upset anyone and I'll just do whatever I feel is best in the moment, just curious on why people may or may not be pushing the speed of the day.

[profii]

the question was more past tense -

like I'm more interested in :

did you come to this game looking for something chill

rather than

I find myself chilling in this no pressure environment of no deadlines but otherwise intended to play normally

if that makes sense

[profii]

So weird being shot n1 - I didn’t really have much idea of what happened after that