no deadlines mafia [game over]

[Xtoxm]

Ego

[Xtoxm]

O God, wisdoms in this game. We're gonna break 1000 pages

[Xtoxm]

Plot twist, there's no hood at all and our scum team is pretending there is for townread after a couple of us die

[Xtoxm]

Oh right yeah I forgot neighbour is in our role name

[Xtoxm]

I take offense at being so low on your list profii i haven't done anything ai in this game

[Xtoxm]

L-2 already? That's not what this game is about guys!

If I die n1 look into Varsoon I'm not explicitly townreading him here

[Xtoxm]

sup guys

[Xtoxm]

I just joined this game from site chat spam

did people sign up for a relaxed paced game or is the no deadline thing just a shtick we can do whatever we want with.


or phrased slightly differently - if we push for a quick day, are we going to upset a contingent of players who are purposely looking to chill

caveat - I don't care if we are going to upset anyone and I'll just do whatever I feel is best in the moment, just curious on why people may or may not be pushing the speed of the day.

I'm here to chill. Go fast days if you want, preferably not on tprs tho

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: Sheepsaysmeep

Okay so a few things
Thing 1.
It's not a neighborhood. It's a masonry.
Thing 2.
Lynch that sheep loser.

can confirm

[Xtoxm]

can someone explains why a duplicate role means something in a 24p game

[Xtoxm]

Merry Christmas!

[Xtoxm]

either one of my weak scum options on this is town

hi

[Xtoxm]

list of people who should be purged immediately:

Kokichi Oma
Vaxkiller
hebichan
TheBrie
singletonking
Theta Alpine
Jaylow7
vonflare
sheepsaysmeep

my neighbors can be spared the purging as i would like to play my role, but yes i am aware scum exists in there

[Xtoxm]

he has 2 posts
we have no deadline
we can wait for his eventual replacement
VOTE: koki

[Xtoxm]

jesus christ can you stop asking the same question over and over?
he's not saying today
he's saying at some point before the game ends

[Xtoxm]

my neighbors can be spared the purging as i would like to play my role, but yes i am aware scum exists in there

this gives me super bad vibes

im just gonna put you in the scum pool this game because i feel like trying to work with you will not be worth the headache

[Xtoxm]

Im sick of his ic claims
I'll believe it when the mod says it not before
If you have a better idea then build a wagon

[Xtoxm]

Yes plural
It's almost like me and bassoon have played with Kokicki before
Like I said build another wagon if you want to eat his bullshit
I've lost my appetite for it personally

[Xtoxm]

trekkie.
your commentary looks somewhat town.
but we seem to have highly opposed game views.
can you talk to me about your reads on these slots?

Vaxkiller
hebichan
TheBrie
singletonking
light_ganski
vonflare
sheepsaysmeep

i've removed everyone who has claimed anything.
except the guy who claimed he would flip as scum.
i hope this is suitable for your dietary preferences.

[Xtoxm]

scum are gonna keep you around for lylo

tbh we should just play for time and let wagon get vig shots i think itll be more reliable than anything this town comes up with

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: sheep
Following Varsoon.

[Xtoxm]

ive seen gamma a few times now and this is the only game he's look even somewhat in a town direction to me
are people scumreading him taking meta into account? i dont think ive seen anyone give an actual reason for voting him

sheep is scum because he's posturing. he's done a ton of it in this game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10639320
on D1 he didn't care about this, he wanted to lynch the JK claim. he was eager for it, even before the 2nd claim came out
this post is fake, its posturing for towncred. because its diametrically opposed to his behaviour on d1.
this is the extent of the effort im going to put into explaining my read on him but this isnt the only time hes done this
scum make fake posts.
sheep is scum.

[Xtoxm]

varsoon is literally doing more than 75% of the people in this game
i have no idea what the fuck party boat is on about

[Xtoxm]

did we just find the scum in the hood?
this defense of sheep doesnt feel natural

[Xtoxm]

let's, not lynch koki thanks. gamma lynch is still good; i feel like trying to off the jailkeeper in the day without having to spend a nk on them is scum-motivated and idk why he won't agree to leave kokichi for just one day based on his claim.

also don't replace me please

Kokichi Oma
Vaxkiller
hebichan
TheBrie
singletonking
Theta Alpine
Jaylow7
vonflare
sheepsaysmeep

why is your purge pool 9 players big though? like that's probably almost double the amount of scum in the game and also we can't possibly purge them all within a reasonable timeframe?

because too many people in this game look like scum

[Xtoxm]

its a shame that cop outing is necessary to lynch scum as obvious as sheep

[Xtoxm]

Yeah, it really, really sticks out.
It also conf-biases the shit out of me because now I'm of the mind
1. If Sheep is scum this is a hard defend by Partyboat
2. If sheep is town, this is hard posturing to push my lynch through after and look good re: my flip.

so varsoon why would you say this literally minutes ago if you have a guilty on sheep

because he hadn't decided to out himself at that moment obviously
you can stop open wolfing now tho your buddy is going down

p-ed
@ausuka
because you dont want to out as cop on d2 in a 24p fking game? why does him being coy about it for most of the day surprise you like at all??

[Xtoxm]

gl trying to reason with them

bullet points
your slot is locktown
sheep is scum
theta is scum
party boat is scum
vonflare claimed scum so im assuming he also is scum
most of the people in this game are scum tbh

p-ed
check starcraft mafia that just ended where koki fakeclaimed ic

[Xtoxm]

thanks flav.

to add to that, i think sheeps refusal to reconsider his read on flav despite his towny entrance is scum indicative.

[Xtoxm]

the narrative that we are w/w is comical to me

when are getting a new wagon value chart btw
i feel like the value of vaxcoin crashed a few pages back

[Xtoxm]

the cohesion between the two was out of nowhere but super apparent and it felt like they were two different slots but acting like a hydra and very unnatural

varsoon outed the hood at the start specifically so people could account for unnatural cohesion between hood members
but you failed to take it into account in your read
because your read on our slots is fake
also failed to take into account our game history + friendship

[Xtoxm]

@mod, can you remove me from the hood, it’s not friendly there anymore. :/

Am I allowed to direct quote from the neighbourhood? Yes or no? I want everyone to know exactly the kind of shit, FL is trying to pull in our hood.

If he have the audacity to post here what he did in there, he’d be quicklynched in no time flat but he thinks he can pressure me and threaten me into sr sheep and it ain’t fucking happening FL. You aren’t scaring me but I’m uberpissed that you really thought I was that fucking stupid, that you could get away with this crap, twice in a row.

I played with town!you in YGM and you never once tried to pull this shit on me. It’s not fucking working, so get the fuck off of me!

Ill vote FL for that

I'll say that I see nothing in the hood that feels different to what he's said here in the main thread. I feel like Nancy just massively misrepped FL, and is hiding behind "i'm not allowed to quote anything from the hood".

[Xtoxm]

why are YOU lying?
you are hard in my scum pool now
PBs summary clearly shows all of those things have already been said in main thread
nancy is scum with sheep and shes working hard to save him and misrepping FL

[Xtoxm]

i dont play mafia to be insulted.
fuck you.

mod replace me

[Xtoxm]

you are a terrible person, gamma
i have never and never will replace strategically
VOTE: gamma
vote is unrelated to my reads

[Xtoxm]

bad investment.
it crashed when he avoided all the wagons and talked about wanting a new one
further crashed when he called fl locktown

[Xtoxm]

btw at person
party boat bragged in the hood that id never get more than 3 votes on him today
you have 3 votes
wanna make him lose the brag

[Xtoxm]

Excellent
VOTE: Party boat
It counts, scumboat

[Xtoxm]

Also things like Nancy trying to call out a timestamp to shade me are why I'm scumreading her this game

[Xtoxm]

That's ok pb isn't getting lynched, I just get to mock him in the hood for making an incorrect brag until he nks me

[Xtoxm]

what you have to remember, jingle, is that party boat is scum, and everything he says is bullshit.
i had a bromance with varsoon in the hood.
who btw was townreading me and hes a better authority on my alignment than anyone in this game, and probably anyone on site that hasnt quit.
everything else is pretty much in both places i think.

[Xtoxm]

flav, i will trust your meta on theta.
lets not rush this lynch, we should get that slot replaced before night.

[Xtoxm]

Oh nice we got everyone. Now we could think about lynching. Unless we want wagons vig shot first.

[Xtoxm]

i could vote light

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: Light
yeah lame, my pocket on you is way better

[Xtoxm]

lighten up sheep
you should give us a chance
if we hit scum
we can make it a trio

[Xtoxm]

like i told you the ic is bullshit
hes done the exact same thing before, right down to claiming it can be roleblocked
could be a scum fakeclaim or a town fakeclaim
either way he'll need to be lynched

[Xtoxm]

so u replaced into scum mastina?
unlucky

[Xtoxm]

how is wis scum

[Xtoxm]

he always posts like this
i havent seen anything bad from him yet

[Xtoxm]

wagon if you ever get vig shot you need to clear out mastina
promise me bro

[Xtoxm]

many people have approached the game differently due to the lack of deadline
so he doesnt have the usual intensity of his town game but his scum game has that anyway
id expect him to have done more than this as scum, tbh

[Xtoxm]

he busses if he doesnt like his team

[Xtoxm]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

wisdom 3p meta
not similar imo

[Xtoxm]

dont suppose i can convince you on mastina

p.s we match on most reads pls stop being braindead on my slot

[Xtoxm]

I was never higher than 5th on the replacement list and rescinded under 24h. That is one of the most blatant lies I've ever seen. And she never has a legit scum read on me in this game state, I promise you that.

[Xtoxm]

xyzzy already covered himself from that by saying he may impose a deadline of any length if he wants to
also the saudade wagon stinks
pass

[Xtoxm]

we're in hammer range
oh shit
i want my eod vote to be this
VOTE: mastina

[Xtoxm]

Are you particularly familiar with mastina stock options Tomxx?

yeah shes confscum here
so whenever theres a point in the game that ive flipped and you have a vig shot
kindly clear her out

[Xtoxm]

her approach to my slot only ever comes from scum here
she knows me well enough that theres 0 chance she believes the angles shes pushing

[Xtoxm]

and im aware that this is a reason that isnt going to convince anyone other than myself rn.
but later in the game when theres a point that ive flipped.
and someone iso's me and sees me calling her confscum.
i hope they consider deleting her.

[Xtoxm]

no ive been in and out.
im not wrong on this.
mastina is confscum.
your own role ccs her you really shouldnt be defending her.

[Xtoxm]

anyway, idrc
im not voting her to get her lynched, im voting her to say that i spent the game voting her and calling her confscum while being ignored

[Xtoxm]

you are incredibly dense

[Xtoxm]

daily reminder that mastina is confscum

[Xtoxm]

you liked the busywork that is identical as all alignments?
good to know youre an easy pocket

[Xtoxm]

groundbreaking news there wagon
never saw that coming

[Xtoxm]

you liked the busywork that is identical as all alignments?
good to know youre an easy pocket

Wow, you're easy to rile. Please case mastina, if my previous assumption wasn't true.

i have already cased her
she is faking a scumread on my slot
this makes her scum pushing a scum agenda

im not going to try and build some bullshit case based on the words shes posting
shes one of the best on this site at fake spewing and gaining superficial townreads
and shifting her meta
thats not a good way to try and read her

[Xtoxm]

you, trekkie and i guess koki are my only townreads on the wagon, obviously jingle too if he joins
i think its a lynch on an absent slot that if it comes up town will tell no one anything about the game state, and serves only to reduce numbers
saudade has flaked the site (like he'll come back at some point prob but him needing replacement here doesnt mean anything for his alignment), and im pretty sure jaylow would have flaked regardless of his role
the game is likely multiball so it could come up scum but its not something im enthusiastic about

[Xtoxm]

there was a game that i flaked out of a bit earlier that trekkie was scum in and his play here is worlds apart from that
sheep linked it like ages ago

[Xtoxm]

singleton - no
vonflare - sorta yeah. the miller thing does look like a scum claim to me. hes also capable of better play than this as town but i dont think he signed up to this game to actually play mafia so i cant say i'd be shocked if hes town.

[Xtoxm]

trekkie please familiarise yourself with the media embedding function
thanks

[Xtoxm]

what are you talking about pb
i dont recall using this argument there
i correctly called shoshin scum there for failing to evolve her read on my slot, but it was my first ever game with her so it was entirely different to the reason mastina is scum here

[Xtoxm]

right i see what youre refering too
you clearly havent read the game, just scanned my iso for something and used it to take a potshot at me
i said "a little sus" because the player in question did not know me well enough for it to be a lockscum offense. and i moved on from the suspicion fairly quickly
"a little sus" and "confscum" are very different statements

[Xtoxm]

confscum is not a term i throw around lightly
i get almost all of my reads on people in games based on how they interact with my slot
so it would be easy for you to find other examples of me doing it but the strength of reads matter
you cant compare me briefly calling someone a little sus to me calling someone confscum

the only counter argument anyone has given that makes any kind of sense is wisdoms
"she is faking the read on you but might just be doing that as town for the lols"
but she is 100% faking the read on my slot

[Xtoxm]

hey ausuka help the mastina wagon grow?
i'll consider not sheeping wisdom on you
i have a high opinion of his scumhunting so this is good offer

[Xtoxm]

consider my vote on both of them
did purr get his squeak toy yet

[Xtoxm]

ausuka being willing to vote saudade to save herself but is happy to die for mastina says a lot tbh

[Xtoxm]

and now that the absent slot got a replacement and the wagon is dead shes your cw
and youre throwing yourself in front of her

[Xtoxm]

wagon, if he is then hes still gonna be scumhunting

[Xtoxm]

it was and i was pushing it back before the cool kids were doing it
but at least he isnt spewing horseshit all over the thread and giving me cancer
im hard tunneling mastina atm because she scumclaimed to me and you just have to accept that atm dann

[Xtoxm]

i think mastinas work to pocket sheep is a possible indication he could be town
or at least not on her team if its multi

[Xtoxm]

But I would like someone to give me a reason that Vonflare should be alive tomorrow

mastina exists

[Xtoxm]

Just ISO’d Trekkie, I think he’s obvtown here.

agree

[Xtoxm]

vote for mastina and we can end the day

[Xtoxm]

pls wis i want her gone ;-;
i promise to sheep you all day 2mo if you kill her. if im alive

[Xtoxm]

been thinking this for a while but i wanna say youre ari

[Xtoxm]

pls wis i want her gone ;-;
i promise to sheep you all day 2mo if you kill her. if im alive

how dare you defend her wisdom
this is off the table
the slot is confscum

[Xtoxm]

There’s just plenty of reasons why Xtoxm is town. Mastina’s case isn’t bad. She’s a great scum player.

the meta case actually is terrible, and that scum game is nothing like my play here
shes jsut throwing shit and seeing what sticks, and hoping no one looks closely enough at those games to realise its bs

[Xtoxm]

if shes doing it as town then shes literally just trolling the game

[Xtoxm]

did she literally lift an exact quote from her recent scum game and post it unironically here?
that does sound more troll than scum

[Xtoxm]

YES
FINALLY
Jingle m'boy

[Xtoxm]

trekkie youve really grown as a player since you repped in here
its great to see

[Xtoxm]

sheep feels hard pocketed more than wolf, tbh
but we can discuss tomorrow
lets enjoy this for now

[Xtoxm]

Nearly everyone had her at obvtown - until she flipped.

which should ring bells for you when everyone and their cat wants to lynch her here

not true at all this lynch was WAY harder than it should have been
almost everyone not on the wagon was hard opposed to it
i think the only possible extra vte we could have got is wagon
everyone else was intent on disabling this lynch

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: light

[Xtoxm]

if we're looking at one scumteam 5 minimum
party boat out of those three

[Xtoxm]

i have enter at more town than scum

[Xtoxm]

I’m not going to even respond to obvscumEnter.

I haven’t pushed she talks “agenda” you don’t talk that. You push that, and secretly.
Her play directly benefits a scum agenda.

You're so confident it's pushing me in the other direction.

Stop making excuses. If I'm obvscum.

Lynch me.

Over mastina.

posts like this one, and other aspects of his play like unvoting mastina because he didn't want a lynch before he caught up, not caring about getting into an argument with FL on patchy game knowledge...more likely coming from town.

[Xtoxm]

ok so if we say 5..4 remaining..light, PB, von? ausuka?

[Xtoxm]

21p is 5 as standard, if its singleball 4 would honestly shock me as we are 24
if its multiball anything goes

[Xtoxm]

its more thinking wisdom is on to something
after light and PB i dont have much of a strong sr hence the cop out von read

[Xtoxm]

5 mafia in 15p? that is literal trolling
what have i signed up to

[Xtoxm]

his hard tunnel on FL doesnt feel town to me, his tr on my slot feels fake, and he totally ducked out of the game while mastina got lynched

[Xtoxm]

But my other two strongest townreads were on light and are now on mastina

how come i dropped so far since this

[Xtoxm]

Knew it.
VOTE: party boat

[Xtoxm]

it could still be multiball with ausuka being otherscum, but otherwise I was prolly wrong

We’ll get into that.

I felt like PB was scum, but I didn’t feel like dealing with it yet, tbh. Neighborhood issues.

you spent the game shutting me down on that read and calling him town, tbh

[Xtoxm]

If we lynch quickly does his IC not get confirmed?

how many time do i need to say this never existed

[Xtoxm]

yeah she trolled us

[Xtoxm]

i doubt that

[Xtoxm]

because i would be a terrible rb choice whether you're town or scum here
but maybe you're just bad and did it anyway

[Xtoxm]

I'll be around and I can give reads

go ahead.
do you think we have multiball or single+sk/vig?

[Xtoxm]

i think koki is town actually
it looks like town has doubles of PRs to mafia singles...so like 2 town JKs, 1 maf JK
2 town day vigs, 1 maf davig

[Xtoxm]

i think koki is town actually
it looks like town has doubles of PRs to mafia singles...so like 2 town JKs, 1 maf JK
2 town day vigs, 1 maf davig

Yeah, the entire Dann wagon is confitown, I think.

light unvoted dann and only rejoined when the mastina wagon was full power and about to be hammered
dont dismiss her, that was very scummy interaction with dann

[Xtoxm]

he does do this as scum
he has nothing to lose at this point trying to swing ausuka first instead of hmself
also trying to set me up for tomorrows lynch by calling me town
very see through scum strategy

[Xtoxm]

im following him because i have identified a fellow town member and im working with him to solve the game

[Xtoxm]

huh.
nancy is the scum in the hood then.
nancy+light+ausuka
VOTE: ausuka

[Xtoxm]

i dislike how youve popped in twice today but havent voted

[Xtoxm]

chances are looking high that this game is non-vanilla

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: light guilty result

if we have another jester, i think its vonflare

[Xtoxm]

i think ive figured out that youre town sheep
shame you cant do the same for me

[Xtoxm]

i think she kinda does, shes posting like she KNOWS im town
obviously the guilty isnt real
dont mind going gamma today
VOTE: gamma

[Xtoxm]

If you're actually town fake claiming you're bringing scum two lynches closer to a win and playing against your win condition so, yeah

neh the hood's all town

If xtoxm is town he's also a complete idiot

so whats all this about
doesnt sound like you sr me
yet youre voting me
thats a conflict of behaviour

[Xtoxm]

nah i think you scumslipped

[Xtoxm]

you were genuinely upset that i was faking a guilty on you as town
because you KNOW im town

[Xtoxm]

because im sheeping wisdom and i actually dont care at all about the outcome of this game since the mod trolled us with a jester

[Xtoxm]

it means stop asking stupid questions and vote for me

[Xtoxm]

well didnt mean to snap

town has very likely already lost this game mathematically
i did have town feelings on him at some point yeah, not really anymore
FL and wisdom both want gamma so im following them, theyre my boys this game

[Xtoxm]

have fun trying to get the apathetic town on board (koki/enter/sheep)

[Xtoxm]

enter, what makes you suspect me here

[Xtoxm]

would you be able to quote the posts that ping you and perhaps i can explain my thoughts

[Xtoxm]

i was genuinely upset at the time
im a sensitive guy i can overreact sometimes
its probably hard to see, especially for you not having been in the game yet at the time (i think?)
that vote on gamma was because he accused me of strategically replacing out
which is a really shitty thing to do like even if you think someones doing that saying it is just a dick move
i wasnt sr him at the time, it was an 'i dont like you' vote
and i said unrelated to me reads so people were clear on it

--

if you put that aside and, hypothetically, assume i have not faked emotions in this game
is there anything left that makes you think im scum?

[Xtoxm]

the mastina push was 100% omgus
she has been good at reading me in the past so i didnt buy her scumread on me
i still feel like she trolled me this game, like to mess up my ability to correctly sr her for pushing me or something

thanks for engaging with me

[Xtoxm]

I was right about flavour leaf that's the only I cared about I can die happy in this game.
VOTE: light

[Xtoxm]

There was finally a successful block by the billions of block roles or they both killed flavour. Does this even need stating?

[Xtoxm]

I would be shocked if the scum didn't also have blocking power and I'm thinking either wolves or sk exist along with mafia that have done just as badly as town at finding scum.

[Xtoxm]

Sheep claimed vt

[Xtoxm]

At this point I'm just cross voting you so

[Xtoxm]

No scum in history has bussed? Jingle had agreed to hammer Martina already it was a meaningless vote could well have been optics.

[Xtoxm]

Light can unvote and I would look at other things I don't know if this is lylo or there's so much scum left it's over or what I'm just cross voting.

[Xtoxm]

ok my thought was that

With dann's entrance the slot got towncred and the wagon fell apart

I see little to no reason for light to vote dann at that point, where she could join the crowd in townreading dann

She did unvote dann when he replaced in that revote came much later when the marina lynch was inevitable.

[Xtoxm]

UNVOTE:

The balls in your court

Sure. I'm open to reassessing things in possible kylo than keeping mindlessly at each other throats.
UNVOTE:

P-ed
Wisdom I think vonflare is obviously another d3+ jester I honestly don't know how we would deal with that other than a lynch though.