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Post Post #91 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:58 am

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In post 32, schadd_ wrote:i had a dream where the wolves just conceded d1
Well we may as well have. There's a 0% chance of us pulling this off.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:04 am

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In post 74, Nibbui wrote:
In post 1839, Slaxx wrote: I hope Nibbui is smiling down on this thread with pride.
I am

I like that you are coming around Sheep/Mastina as well

You might be getting the Mastina tracker thing wrong though

It's not that Mastina was the less "likely" to get caught in my opinion. It is just that she knew that she very probably would be the next day lynch if she didn't claim something good, therefore Mastina made up this claim of half-truths to justify a possible tracker on her + try some WIFOM.

However, she was the one to make the kill also, in my opinion, to protect her partner of getting tracked because in the long-term view, he is the unique hope of the scum team (since her slot is in very bad waters) and if a guilty on him showed up, it was basically game over to mafia.

I can be wrong maybe though.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #2) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:10 am

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In post 88, the worst wrote:
In post 1920, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Lol so like, how about we not wagon obvtown mastina, ya?
i'm like 99.99999% sure this was a typo or posted in the wrong game or some kind of post-post-irony or smth
No, Ari just had good reason to believe that this was my towngame--because, in many ways, it was.

My posts were tailored to look good for people who know me.

Mostly just for one factor:
Knowing that we were fucked, I altogether abandoned any semblance of a larger plan. Not having a plan is town mastina.

It just so happened that this game, my lack of plan was due to me abandoning any hope of winning in favor of just having FUN.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #3) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 94, the worst wrote:FUN!!!<3

I feel that. the day one PoE was absolutely brutal--this list is really nice to read (excluding, apparently, me)
Yeah I mean.
EVERYONE was scumreading me.
I couldn't even pin hopes on sheep, because he was a preferred alternative to me.

I knew that I was pwned, so I just accepted it and ran with it.
(Helps that I have drawn scum SO many times that I'm burned out enough to not give a fuck as scum. Only so many times before it begins to wear old, especially since I just don't feel the need to prove my skill at scumplay. When I want to prove that I'm a competent scum player, drawing scum is great. But I don't, because right now I'm content with my scumplay compentency. So I just have no heart in it, yaknow?)
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Post Post #101 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:37 pm

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In post 96, the worst wrote:I really enjoyed the fact you responded to the tight PoE by gambiting -- pretty much the only opportunity to change things up there. It was a vicious d1. Leveraging a couple of slots' discomfort with reading me to get the lynch through was pretty clever. You also came out pioneering the push on me without backing down which was pretty cool. I think sheep looked worse out of it but idrk I guess.

In a normal player list I doubt it would be so stacked for town. There's just some really lucky combinations in there for us. :P
Agreed. And, I actually felt like I was town when pushing you, because it just felt like something town-mastina would be doing given she'd know about your alignment/performance in Starcraft.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:50 pm

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In post 107, Nibbui wrote:Sheep will probably try to claim vig to smooth the guilty.
This is actually all according to plan.
Because we really
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have the power to give out a N6 vigilante, with the explicit details of it being an evil gun. If sheep nails the naturalness of it, it works to our favor, because it means that he's pseudo-cleared and he gets to kill Pink Ball.

Granted.

He has to convince people that the role exists--it DOES. But he needs to sell them that it does. Because if they don't believe it exists--even though it does--then he gets lynched in spite of being truthful.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:32 pm

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Yeah, sheep's not handling it as well as I'd hoped...

...But on the other hand.

It may still work anyway?

Skitter, Pink Ball, and Slaxx are all at least considering the idea of Mephistophanes as scum for various reasons.

Honestly even if sheep was powerlynched on D4, if he survives D3 I'll be calling this game a win since it went as well as possible. :P
(He needs to survive tho. He has a chance!)
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Post Post #114 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:45 pm

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In post 111, the worst wrote:I'll be in awe if they lynch Ari. It's obviously a policy lynch. But it looks like sheep's gambited just hard enough to swing this around. :D
The gambit was my idea, actually.
I laid out the no-kill, no-gift plan, and that if there was a guilty, to claim the N6 Vig with the evil gun.

And yeah, I did kinda hard-frame Mephistophanes as my scumbuddy.
If you can't KILL the cop...figure out a way where the town does it for you. :P
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Post Post #115 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:48 pm

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In post 113, Nibbui wrote:am I the only one that is finding amusing the fact that power roles, that actually are made to benefit town, are getting in their way?
If there was no power role sheep very probably would be today lynch.
Quite interesting.
Well in sheep's credit.
With no power roles.
We'd have you dead N1 and Pink Ball dead N2 and skitter as not conftown D3, leaving the POE pool MUCH wider and more flexible. Mephistophanes, skitter, Slaxx, maybe even podoboq, all are lynchable then.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:22 pm

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In post 133, Aristophanes wrote:You did a damned good job of it! Combined with playing your towngame I really was surprised and impressed when you flipped :)
It's a shame that in spite of this explicitly being a game where I didn't tryhard and this explicitly being a game I knew I was going to lose.

The fact that I
still
made some clever plays will inevitably mean.

I'll be seeing a lot of lynches aimed my way and face a lot of exasperation from it.




...Still worth it tho.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:32 pm

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In post 158, the worst wrote:why did you pick skitter?
skitter was the obvious choice. Keep in mind there are two important aspects of that role. The tracker part was worthless altogether; I didn't care about it. What I cared about was the BULLETPROOF and CONFTOWN parts of it.

I can't make Nibbui bulletproof because Nibbui was the best player in the game.
I can't make Pink Ball bulletproof because Pink Ball rivaled Nibbui for best player in the game.
I can't make podoboq an IC because podoboq is a potential mislynch.
I can't make Slaxx an IC because Slaxx is a potential mislynch,
and
him being bulletproof would be bad due to being a competent player.
I can't make you have it, because you're the lynch and I'm pretty sure that if we submitted the lynch as the player to receive it, it'd have been randomized. (If not and we coulda disposed of it via dumping it on you and lynching you...WHOOPS. But I just kinda assumed that was impossible, since if schadd allowed that, it'd be a LOLWHOOPS from
him
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That leaves the options as Mephistophanes and skitter.
Mephistophanes was a poor choice because there was a fair amount of suspicion and the IC would ruin it. Furthermore, there were growing sentiments of them being town in spite of said suspicion, and the bulletproof would be bad to have there.

Whereas skitter was a fairly obvtown player, no suspicion at all...yet who we also didn't have plans to kill. I wanted Nibbui dead; I wanted Pink Ball dead; I wanted Slaxx to die; I wanted Mephistophanes to die. But skitter was someone I knew we could afford to let live.

Mind you.

There were no good options.
Nobody in this playerlist is someone I
wanted
to make a bulletproof IC, yet alone, a BP IC with a tracker power. All of them are far too competent for that.
I just had to give it to
someone
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Post Post #161 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:01 pm

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The tracker was only for the first two nights.
Assuming two scum lived through the first night, automatically not a problem to me.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:29 pm

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In post 175, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 170, Aristophanes wrote:Heya! Sorry I doubted you! I was just afraid our results were wrong!
I doubted your result first so it's fair!

sheep's claim sounded so ridiculous that I believed it instead of yours :lol: but I blame mastina, her gambit was pretty awesome, mainly because I thought "mastina can't be playing this to just get one more mislynch, since after a Meph mislynch sheep will be power lynched", like, I thought mastina would be planning for a win, not for a "get as far as we can", but alas!
When Slaxx described my play as like an onion, you shoulda listened.

There's always layers to it…
…Even if said layers are making you think that there are layers that weren't there at all. :P
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Post Post #210 (isolation #13) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:32 pm

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In post 195, the worst wrote:
In post 5, the worst wrote:town!
In post 9, mastina wrote:Scum!
this just fully clicked for me lol
Oh yeah I forgot about that!
I was, indeed, being a cheeky scumfuck. :P
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Post Post #212 (isolation #14) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:01 pm

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In post 211, the worst wrote:#relatable :lol:
Honestly the main way I derive any pleasure from the dread that is the dregs of scumplay is seriously just embracing being a cartoon villain, owning up to my devilish schemes but leaving just enough behind the scenes to give the would-be heroes a fight.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #15) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:39 am

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In post 213, the worst wrote:I had no idea you were so relatable. :shifty:
Hey there's a reason I have a cult of personality behind me and am incredibly divisive between people who know me well and people who don't care to know me well. When I actually talk to people, we end up connecting quite well.

There's a reason I preach about "the magic of talking", and it's exactly that; just talking to people is an amazing way to get to know one another and bond remarkably quickly.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #16) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:14 pm

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Indeed. <3
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Post Post #217 (isolation #17) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:55 pm

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So Sheep's killing Slaxx.
I legitimately, genuinely don't know if that's the right play or not; I'm conflicted.
On the one hand, Slaxx supports skitter on lynching sheep; on the other hand, Slaxx was a possible lynch and was doubting sheep just as much as skitter. Plus, my interactions with Slaxx and sheep were fairly similar, which is a mixed bag of good and bad.

I think it's overall maybe the smart move, but I don't think it'll win him the game.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #18) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:14 am

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In post 221, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 220, the worst wrote:getting skitter to vote right is literally the endgame challenge tho, regardless of the nk he makes
It think it’s a safe bet, he is neve NKing Podoc. I don’t understand why anyone believes a N6 vig in a micro game, is even a thing? :facepalm:
Maybe because it was an actual real role in this game?

Read the setup; the claimed role is quite real. It's just that we deliberately essentially gave it to ourselves rather than to a town player.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:24 am

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In post 226, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 225, mastina wrote:
In post 221, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 220, the worst wrote:getting skitter to vote right is literally the endgame challenge tho, regardless of the nk he makes
It think it’s a safe bet, he is neve NKing Podoc. I don’t understand why anyone believes a N6 vig in a micro game, is even a thing? :facepalm:
Maybe because it was an actual real role in this game?

Read the setup; the claimed role is quite real. It's just that we deliberately essentially gave it to ourselves rather than to a town player.
But game ends D6?
Sure does, but that doesn't make it any less of a real role. The N6 vigilante was no fakeclaim; it was, genuinely, something schadd included in the game and nothing changes that because it's an objective fact.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:13 pm

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Now that the game's officially over.
Can I now say.
That between this game and schadd's other game.
Out of my last 5-7 games (say, six).

I've only been town in a grand total of
one
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That's four/five/six. scum. role PMs. in. a. ROW.

And you wonder why I'm burned out from playing scum. :P
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Post Post #234 (isolation #21) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:53 am

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In post 233, the worst wrote:I KNOW THAT FEEL SO MUCH..... I hope we roll masons real soon :p
Next game we play together, let's claim masons regardless of role. :P
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Post Post #241 (isolation #22) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:15 pm

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Yesssssss the paranoiaaaa………
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Post Post #263 (isolation #23) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:13 am

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I think you guys need to be banned for cheating, here. :evil:







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Post Post #265 (isolation #24) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:16 am

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In post 261, Pink Ball wrote:About your game schadd, I'll play depending on the playerlist, but I'm starting another game as soon as Slaxx sends me my role PM
While we're on the subject of games, my Blitz game is having difficulty filling--which I suppose isn't that unusual; the setup is explicitly scumsided so not many people willingly go into a disadvantage, the game is a Blitz requiring high activity which runs counter to the majority of site culture, and the game features a mechanic people may or may not be fond of involving the choice to become lovers or gladiate someone.

Still, it's a thing if anyone here would be interested.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #25) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 264, the worst wrote:that's like banning you for having too many Bs in your username >:
So I'm to believe that skitter JUST SO HAPPENED to somehow do exactly what you wanted her to do, after you JUST SO HAPPENED to broadcast how strongly you wanted her to do it?

I call bullshit, man.
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Post Post #273 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:46 pm

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NO SKITTER FIGURED IT OUT WHEN LITERALLY NO OTHER TOWN PLAYER ALIVE DID D: D: D:
(2297, figuring out that she was the best of bad options.)
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