micro 69 thinkthread (COMPLETE) (IT WAS MICRO 840)

[schadd_]

i was thinking:

2 goons
7 vts

night 1: mafia chooses a player to become bulletproof, gain tracker abilities for n1 and n2, and become confirmed town on d3 (the supply happens at the beginning of night 1 and they are informed of the full details)
night 2: mafia supplies a player a list of three names that must have at least one wolf in it; they cannot kill this player n2 but they do not get confirmed / bulletproof

[schadd_]

the night 2 thing it turns out is useless unless there's one wolf left (any group of three is gtd to have a wolf in 2v3 . . . . lmoa . . . . especially when the info is given to a townie)

[schadd_]

this game literally filled just over 24 hours after it opened

u guys i literally have no idea how to make setups why are u rushing me .......

[schadd_]

beginning of n2: invent a neapolitan, invent a miller

[schadd_]

ugh that gets really bloated

[schadd_]

how about just a 1-shot cop on n1 as well

and mafia know that nobody else has roles

[schadd_]

n1 cop

[schadd_]

optionally: invent a night 4 vig on night 2

[schadd_]

nix that

optional: invent a night 3 OR night 6 vig at the start of n2

[schadd_]

the invent is factional and non-targeting (so like the wolves choose a person and the role rises up out of the ground to meet them) and the roles don't know where they come from (i.e., could just be randed)

in sum:
a bulletproof n1, n2 tracker at eod1 that is confirmed as town at the end of day 2
a n1 cop at eod1 (that can't be killed until n2)
a night 3 or night 6 vig (or not) at eod2

scum know of all three of these immediately and know that every other townie will remain vt unless acted upon

[schadd_]

cop -> gunsmith

[schadd_]

or do i want that. hmm

i think the no-cop norm is just a blight here since i (obviously) dont dislike it in this setup but it would seem out of place

[schadd_]

i think i may generally overestimate the strength of scum here

one slot has to be endgamed unless you can lynch it before eod2 (though scum usually have a decent idea of who that is by eod1), two tracks (when you can choose who does them each one is maybe only like 1/4 of a check), one proper check

i think that figuring out that scum sources the abilities sucks

[schadd_]

i think the tracker should just know they got it from scum

[schadd_]

a night 2 cop is chosen by the day 1 lynch (who is told all other roles are allocated by scum other than this one and know that you are giving a cop to someone

[schadd_]

in lieu of the other cop

i have thunk about this for like 3 hours between last night and now and the only workable ideas i have come up with were that and the fact that i should call the cop "invéstigatoire"

[schadd_]

and draw everyone a lil picture of their roles

[schadd_]

in the current setup a day 1 scum lynch is kind of better than a day 2 one (2 tracker -> cop checks vs. 1 grabo tracker check + 1 strong track + 1 rogue cop check)

[schadd_]

day 1 lynch: second scum has to be second towniest person out of 8 (if you give track to the 1st)
day 2 lynch: second scum has to be second towniest person out of 6 (who were already the 6 towniest)

[schadd_]

i guess its like that

[schadd_]

2nd scenario has a tracker inno perhaps hovering around but also likely has a cop re-hitting tracker

[schadd_]

both scum surviving to d3 is great due to immense fakeclaim potential

[schadd_]

Welcome to Micro 840! You are a

Vanilla Townie.

You don't have any special abilities, but you can talk and vote during Day phases.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Please confirm by telling me what the bolded green text says.

You have realized your true identity . . . . you are

Swampy Nell, the Night 2 Invéstigatoire!

During the second night of the game, you may investigate a player to learn whether they are

innocent

or

guilty

. Anybody that looks

innocent

will be town, but

guilty

does not necessarily mean mafia.

the mafia have chosen . . . You!!!! you are now a

The Sticky Silver Angel - Bulletproof Night 1 and 2 Tracker!

During the first and second nights of the game, you may investigate a player to learn who they have visited last night, if anybody. No killing action can be hidden from you this way (that is, no role that can kill is a ninja). You cannot be killed at night, and at the dawn of day 3 I will confirm you as town.

this change is effective immediately - you can take an action night 1.

you found a gun in the mud outside your house. might take a minute to get the gunk out . .

you are now a

night 3 vigilante!

on the third night of the game, you may choose someone to kill.

you found a gun in the mud outside your house. it has evil energies radiating from it . . . . oh no. . . .

you are now a

night 6 vigilante!

on the sixth night of the game, you may choose someone to kill.

[schadd_]

this whole idea feels stale tbh i kind of want to scrap it but PAH

Welcome to micro 840 ! You are a

mafia goon

. You may talk to your partner at any time in here, and each night either you or your partner may use a factional nightkill.

HOWEVER!!!! you have a couple responsibilities outside of this. . . . check out your hideout . . .

You win when you control half the vote during a day phase, or when nothing can prevent this.

Please confirm by telling me what the bolded red text says or by posting in your factional thread.

welcome! you both received the same role PM

you have two decisions to make during the game.

at the end of day one, i will send this PM to someone:

the mafia have chosen . . . You!!!! you are now a

The Sticky Silver Angel - Bulletproof Night 1 and 2 Tracker!

During the first and second nights of the game, you may investigate a player to learn who they have visited last night, if anybody. No killing action can be hidden from you this way (that is, no role that can kill is a ninja). You cannot be killed at night, and at the dawn of day 3 I will confirm you as town.

this change is effective immediately - you can take an action night 1.

you have until that time to decide who i will send this to (i will take whichever was the last directive). if the day ends before you make this decision, it will be randomized (you will be notified of the result.)

at the end of day 2, you can choose someone to receive one of these two PMs:

Spoiler:

you found a gun in the mud outside your house. might take a minute to get the gunk out . .

you are now a

night 3 vigilante!

on the third night of the game, you may choose someone to kill.

you found a gun in the mud outside your house. it has evil energies radiating from it . . . . oh no. . . .

you are now a

night 6 vigilante!

on the sixth night of the game, you may choose someone to kill.

if i do not receive a choice, neither will be given.

you also know that the person who is lynched day 1 is given the choice of a player to bestow this role:

You have realized your true identity . . . . you are

Swampy Nell, the Night 2 Invéstigatoire!

During the second night of the game, you may investigate a player to learn whether they are

innocent

or

guilty

. Anybody that looks

innocent

will be town, but

guilty

does not necessarily mean mafia.

the three events i have described here constitute all of the roles in this game; every townie is vanilla at present.

.

each night, you may ask me for a flavor name for a given role description.

[schadd_]

i still need to draw pictures for the roles

[schadd_]

Mouth
O
Pen
You're
High

[schadd_]

think i wanna sleep on this still

its probably within 40-60 odds

[schadd_]

Well

i wanna hedge: if this setup ends up being bad, it's only because i am bad at creating setups and you shouldn't play my games anymore

[schadd_]

northsidegal
InfiniteSoda
podoboq
skitter30
sheepsaysmeep
Pink Ball
mastina
Nibbui
the worst

Original Roll String: 1d9

1 9-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

Original Roll String: 1d8

1 8-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

[schadd_]

mastina and shmeep

[schadd_]

i could never have rc review this setup for me bc he'd be like "this is 80:20 in favor of scum :/"

[schadd_]

Exact words are a favorite of mine

mood

[schadd_]

i had a dream where the wolves just conceded d1

[schadd_]

literally nobody cares about my fun idea but it may be an artifact of the fact that duckling hasnt posted

maybe mastina would think its cool

i thot this would be up shmeeps wheelhouse but i guess hes a weathered mafia veteran who is unexcited by novelty

[schadd_]

ok, I've just learned that I'm using the word "projecting" a bit wrongly.

I had got the original meaning right but I was as well using it with a somewhat different meaning in context

when I told duckling for example that he was "projecting" or that I as town "project" myself a lot, I was using it as meaning something more like "consciously presenting yourself in a certain way even though it doesn't reflect your real thoughts or persona".

that's pretty much exactly what that means in this context

when used transitively (i.e., "projecting something" rather than just "projecting") it can mean that

intransitively it usually means the psychology thingy

[schadd_]

it's a tell and uses a method I don't want to expose

ooooooo fuck yea bud this is real mafia babey

[schadd_]

Welcome To My Twisted Mind northsidegal

[schadd_]

@tw wrt the skitter meta you linked

i think her villagery type of posting walls is better than i'd expected from her and i was kinda? underestimating her w game

but i think here theres a lot mroe genuine interacging/engaging with people and solving and she's still lean v after skimming that it's just a bit weaker

ye i know how to write things that sound townie; being townie in like a generically townie way doesn't mean much for me

>:( >:( >:(

i think i will more than likely mod several more games that you play in and on the other hand it is kind of unlikely that you wolf against me again which means i will just be angry at you forever. i'm sorry about this but there is nothing you can do

[schadd_]

should have replaced infinitesoda like 2 days ago Oopts

deciding not to call attention to that now bc i think it might be town indicative but sorry everyone

[schadd_]

I particularly like more the idea of lynching either Mastina or Sheep than The worst tbh

W

[schadd_]

[unv][/unv]

would switch to mastina but not duck


i fucking hate this but at this poitn it would be throwing to ignore that nancy is villager

this whole post is super wolfy i think

the progression on nancy definitely has things to be looked at

[schadd_]

I'm a lategame confirmable town power role.

L

[schadd_]

sticky angel went to skitter30
investigatoire went to mephistophanes 39

[schadd_]

I mean ok????

Ngl this looks like a joke role

onutxbqj oebix;jqj xoeubmofeibqxkjkqbe

[schadd_]

Tell tw sorry

[schadd_]

Not trying to be insulting but to randomly become a bp n1 n2 tracker who becomes an ic day3 is like ... very unexpected

ITS THE MYSTERY BOX OF SILVER

[schadd_]

Not trying to be insulting but to randomly become a bp n1 n2 tracker who becomes an ic day3 is like ... very unexpected

ITS THE MYSTERY BOX OF SILVER

i put this off too long in much the same way that i have put off duckling's voice recording and another very important thing unrelated to this game

i am stuck on the nose because the nose is the worst human feature and impossible to capture artistically

once i finish that its smooth sailing because i can just copy tom hardy's lips and then cover the investigatoire's entire mcFucking face with a kerchief or something

[schadd_]

skitter as sticky thingy

-> scum chose me to be the silver box thingy

both of them independently used the term "thingy"

[schadd_]

i am also residually shitting my pants about how this game filled in like 12 seconds

[schadd_]

ALSO IT TURNS OUT LIPS DONT MAKE SENSE EITHER

[schadd_]

i think i'm going to have this tab of a zoomed in picture of tom hardy open for the next year

[schadd_]

Like.

This is a micro.

The longest possible game is to D4.

There is no such thing as a lategame confirmable town power role.

actually fits both the 'knows tw is lying because of mystery silver thing; there are no other strong prs' thing and also the 'setting up a narrative to shade/undermine the validity of the silver box thing' thing

W

[schadd_]

like i read that thinking that was more than likely mastina's approach

thats really high level reasoning

[schadd_]

sticky silver angel

Spoiler: hhhhhhhhhhgggggg;jqxQQ:Xxbbaye;k ;qip;.,ejekeuxiebuj

i hate all art

yes offense

[schadd_]

about 20 seconds after i post that in skitters thread she PMs me to track mastina

mastina is killing nibbui tonight

[schadd_]

i will draw mephistophanes' picture LATER

i gave them the PM tonight but they dont even need the picture until night 2 ...... smh

[schadd_]

skitter has switched to podoboq

[schadd_]

william pinkerton

[schadd_]

oh wow meph claimed that they had a role change before forcing it from mastina

huge L

[schadd_]

taking note for myself for endgame that i should include timestamps in the dont quote mod info rule

[schadd_]

nibbui i think uve had like 3 different avatars in the last 12 hours

[schadd_]

You were the most hard read I had to do on D1 and I always came back with some paranoia about "what if skitter is playing god!sum right now", and I still think that, so I have to talk to you to convince myself that the duck was right about you.

people largely overestimate my scumgame for some reason, idk; i'm decent, maybe even good, but i'm not godtier by any means

[schadd_]

literally just didnt think of no killing n2

like they are incentivized to kill the cop but Whoopts

[schadd_]

meph is an n2 cop

scum plan to holster the vig thing

[schadd_]

: )

[schadd_]

(ie meph claimed they got it at 9:32 or something which kinda vibes with me getting it at 9:33 but explicitly saying that i feel kinda starts getting close to the line; thanks for clarifying)

:T

reminder for myself to add a timestamp rule after this game

[schadd_]

im generally really happy with how this game went

like two guilties n1 n2 that both got kind of shot in the foot by a preemptive fakeclaim is exactly the scenario i was designing around

[schadd_]

i dont mean to contend that it was a good setup and probably could have, in a different list (or one with mastina tryharding for example), been broken open with differently timed lynches or especially clever setup spec / fakeclaiming

[schadd_]

Although I know your role pm was specific skitter, I find it weird that hers gives her an out on her ability if it’s wrong. I think the plan was to try to get sheep today and then just survive one more day somehow. Sometimes a spade is a spade.

ye prob
ngl i thought i was going to get a tracker inno on them and thought it was prob going to be a bit of a wasted check; i really checked there for my own sanity so i could ignore their posts

happy i didn't switch off tho

[schadd_]

wow i was like "have i used that gif before on this site" and i have and it was in fact in this thread in response to a different skitter post

[schadd_]

has anyone taken you up on the offer to read posts aloud??

i do not wish to offer comment at this time

[schadd_]

Absolutely, unequivocally, you were supposed to get that slot mislynched on day 2.

?

Your role. They tried to wifom you.

That role was meant to be mislynched before it became mod confirmed. That was the game. You go from easy mode to hard mode not doing it.

this is rather hard to do most of the time

[schadd_]

Meh. I think that’s probably a sign I’ve got my confbias goggles on and need to break.

I think it’s still entirely possible the play was just sloppy and the plan wasn’t put together well, the fact we have one goon flipped and you’re clear supports that. I’ve always been a proponent of lynching based on scumreads and not setup spec but just like Mastina yesterday I don’t see how Meph flips town here even with slightly positive interactions with Mastina.

You are seriously embarrassing yourself here. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Dead chat is laughing their asses off at you rn. Bank on it.

no

hes making kinda reasonable assumptions, just wrong

[schadd_]

FUN AND SPONTANEOUS MOD ACTIVITY

fun mod doing a fun thing

choose a post of yours for me to read aloud and post for everyone's listening enjoyment

indicate the post to me by PM and i will have your recording within 30 days

limit one per customer per day phase. i will use my discretion for truncating exceptionally long or crude posts

I don't know if this was serious or anything, but for what it's worth, the following posts would be my choices.


"It's a horrible way to look at this game, and it's a worse way to look at people, and it seriously frustrates me that this attitude from her is being praised."

"this is, in fact, the most toxic game I have ever been a part of."

"have some class for fuck's sake."

As Sean Connery would say, yesh.

Oh wait, mastina is at L-1.

VOTE: mastina

Now she isn't

Bye bye Nancy have a nice one!!

I would like any of these three read by schadd_, with the condition of the Sean Connery one being read as Sean Connery.

how do i stall from doing this

[schadd_]

slaxx wants me to read his rap post about tw and i have to do it and its gonna be real bad

[schadd_]

i think sheep may be a little better off by virtue of having been guiltied and sidestepping it

[schadd_]

ive been lynched 4 times, vigged once, nkd 4 times, gotten endgamed 4 times, survived 5 times, died of syphillis once

[schadd_]

ive played 30ish games and 10ish offsite. i never played more than like 3 at a time, usually 2

[schadd_]

We're in MYLO. I feel like we should talk about stuff instead of just voting sheep because it's easy.

you shouldn't do this

[schadd_]

his n6 vig is about to come up

[schadd_]

i think back in the day he'd play like 5 or 6 games at a time yea

[schadd_]

if I was even slightly psychic I wouldn't do this bc siterules obviously

L

[schadd_]

oh i should mention, im gnna put a sequel to this game into the miccro queue as soon as this ends and it should be ready to fire like right away

[schadd_]

Uggh

I want to
But also
I really shouldn't

i would offer a neutral treestump spot for you but that would make it not a micro :pensive:

[schadd_]

7 Town Stumps Vs
2 Mafia Stumps

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=78198