micro 840: mystery box of silver (this is over)

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hiii

fun playerlist

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i kinda v read tw already off of how comfortable/natural he feels vs how much he hates randing wolf

nibbui kinda feels wolfily awkward like they dont know in what way to post in the situation they were in and responded terribly to the wagon being on them

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nothing strong but

the jokepost entrance when you see the wagon kinda? pings me

It's still RVS but I hope we can interact enough today and possibly tomorrow (although I'm not sure I'll have acess tomorrow, let's wish Santa is on my side) to at least you guys be able to get a weak read on me.

this lamist thing bothers me

your post about why people voted you feels sorta desperately focused on your wagon

in general your opening is a pretty poor reaction to the wagon imo

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meh

there are other things to do with rvs rather than force some content 10 posts in; i just felt that you were posting to remove the wagon/under influence of the wagon being off of you which is a vibe i still kinda get rereading it

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being on you*

my brain doesnt work rn

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first!

hello all!

@mod: regular vla on fridays/saturdays

VOTE: nibbui

like wtf are you trying to garner that will help you sort anyone out of this post

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youre so painfully lamist-y right now

and overreacting way out of proportion and nothing like i woul dhave expected to my read

which is basically a mirror copy of what i originally scumread you for; i think youre snapping to pressure because you dont know how to respond

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i want to wait for other people to check in and let me know what they think because it's at this stage of arguing with someone that i usually start confbiasing and tunneling but yeah

VOTE: nibbui

can you link me some past wolf and village games of yours

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i dont need to respond with a counterargument to anything

i had a slight wolfread on you, youre writing tons to try to convince me otherwise, it just doesnt convince me of anything and instead sort of made the wolfread stronger and that's kinda just it

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no ones around during holidays rip

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ok so i think i want to v read nibbui after going through meta

and like v read very strongly

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nibbui as scum is the laying low/super tense type

his confidence in thread and lamist ish attitude/how much he's engaging with me is really prominent in all his v games and it feels exactly like this

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ok i misunderstood it earlier

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tw and nibbui are both villagers

take it to the bank

i think

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Sheep, do you think it's towny for you to go out of your way to check out my games or it's inside your scum range?

what would you say?

i do ask for meta as both alignments

when im scum i usually dont really read it in depth like i do as v; instead i just find something to say about it

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UNVOTE:

forgot to do this

at this point

anyone who wolfreads nibbui hasnt done a quick meta check
anyone who hasnt done a quick meta check should do a quick meta check


im slightly slightly paranoid that he would do better but very unlikely that there would be such a significant difference

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word choice / toneread

i know normally i might get annoyed at this kind of reasoning if it was used against myself but even still i couldn't help but notice it: you used the word "hmmm" three times in your first three posts (with two in the third), and seven times so far in your 33 post ISO

obviously the word "hmmm" on its own isn't scum indicative (.... i think), but i think that kind of verbal tic is something worth looking at, especially in comparison to your other games.

again, i kind of hate this reasoning when it's used against me so sorry about that, but i can't just ignore it.

elli is that you

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idt i should really be w reading for this but it's kinda fishy that nsg townreads all of the current posting people, including tw who has like 0 content yet, and then dislikes nibbui's 33 substantially long posts where he's talked about a lot of stuff for of all things 7 hmmms

feels like was going to post a list and realized that she had to come up with at least one w read?

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idrc i think it's hard for someone to have as accurate of a view of their own meta than someone else's objective pov and i still think there wouldnt be this large of a difference between what i read

and it's also really villagery for you to engage with me about my townread on you like this

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"Don't you think it's scummy for me to argue with you that I'm not as townie as you think I am?"

no i v read it honestly

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VOTE: mastina

lol

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i low-key get partner-y vibes between sheep and nibbui

you think we spent our holidays acting an argument with each other for 2 pages?

can you talk more about what gives you this feeling

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Ok Mastina you're beginning to sound like scum!Mastina. Why is TW always 100% scum here?

If I cared about how I looked, I might put in the effort to give you a rundown here, but I honestly don't.

When I feel like telling you why the worst is scum, I will tell you.

It just doesn't feel like the right time.

I

can

force an explanation when it doesn't feel like the right time.
I vastly prefer not to.

If you can't accept that, then vote me, sure, but it'll change nothing; I'm not backing down from this. I'll explain when I feel like it, not when others dictate it. And right now I feel like being semiserious rather than fully serious, so.

this is wolf trying to have an overly clever weridly twtbw post but failing

i thought nibbui's early posting could potentially qualify as able to be considered lamist before i read this

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hot take infinitesoda's one post popin in the middle of a really spicy argument/huge part of the game to randomly vote a 0 poster is partners

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mastina do you have any past v games/can you link me to them if you do where you act in this way like "idc what you think im going to blatantly not answer your question" or smtg like that



rn it just feels like you wanted to have the argument "i wouldnt do that as scum ebause i care about how you read me" except it's comes across as really forced

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UNVOTE:

mehhh

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VOTE: nsg

yuh

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idt i should really be w reading for this but it's kinda fishy that nsg townreads all of the current posting people,

including tw who has like 0 content yet,

and then dislikes nibbui's 33 substantially long posts where he's talked about a lot of stuff for of all things 7 hmmms

You were one to say that I and TW were mostly surely town here, so why do you have a problem with NSG giving him a town read?

I might have more content than him but that's no reason to say that he has "0 content" when you actually is town reading him as well.

I don't understand this part of your post tbh.

it's just pointing out she's basically townreading everyone in thread

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^^^^ these ones gave me taht ping

the first feels a little bit like you're leaving room for people to talk you out of your vote

and the meta-read felt like a pretty big 180 from where you were pushing earlier - i guess i don't understand the strength of the read here; it feels almost too strong to me

eh i can see where youre coming from with disliking the 180

generally i just put a lot of trust in meta and my original read on him was never actually that strong or off of very much, but the few things i disliked about him seemed to appear in his village game and not in his wolfing

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his super aggro/confident/interacting with me in the way that he did was what got me to snap w read him but after reading through his v games i thought it's just in his playstyle because he plays like that in most games as v, and then from his w games i just feel like he's definitely the type of wolf to avoid that type of stuff and lay more low

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we can agree that mastina was consciously being wolfy back there

what i dislike about it is that it feels like at some points she tried to take it and use it to get herself v cred by calilng it twtbw

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im going to take a break from trying to read mastina's posts so that the part of my brain that is still left doesnt explod

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If you can call verbosity something that's a skill, at least. (Basically, there's tricks to wordflow. I make heavy use of alliteration and rhymes, but not just "one word starts with c, another word also starts with c"; it can be different ones altogether which just are similar. For instance, the syllable of 'one' is similar to the syllable of 'which' in mouthing, so the effect is there. I've done it for so long that it's become subconscious. Word vomit it may be, but it's smartly done word vomit. Most of the time. )

see you in 3 hours when i finish writing my next post

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mastina isnt wolf anymore just very very interesting

pink ball is wolf

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sheep
tw
nibbui
mastina/podo/skitter
infinitesoda
pink ball/nsg

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[quote="In post 249, the worst"][/quote]
dude


idt it's even physically possible to mindmeld this much

did you hack my brain or something

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i can barely tell what youre trying to push me for pinkball

im not going to meta dive someone or talk about what i think their meta differences might be when they literally just started posting and it's basically impossible to get good conclusions anyway when you dont have any town games??

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VOTE: pink ball

i may or may not be literlaly just following tw around rn

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also fwiw iirc i literally said i metadive as scum in the same post that i said i meta dive is town

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VOTE: nsg

psych

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VOTE: pink ball

fooled you again

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i went through that w game earlier and it is pretty different but it doesnt really change that much for me for reasons i explained earlier and with how you started talking lamist-y about how youre so obviously meta v here that if you are w youve been intentionally making it noticably different anyway

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youve also responded poorly to votes and i want to maintain the pressure

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im not going to meta dive someone or talk about what i think their meta differences might be when they literally just started posting and it's basically impossible to get good conclusions anyway when you dont have any town games??

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it feels so fake for you to keep repeating that youre obviously meta town and if anything makes me think youre wolf intentionally playing differently so that you can try to push this after knowing i do meta dives

like of all the reasoning youve used to argue for someones alignment youve prolly said the most that you yourself should be read obvious town by meta and i cant really see why as village you would be so concerned about it

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VOTE: nsg

idkk

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im literally already at the point where i think if tw is wolf here i would be willing to lose to him and might just sheep him if im lost

nibbui is still pretty confident v

nsg is wolfy, pink ball is wolfy, infinite soda's popin kinda bothered me with it's timing but subject to change a lot in either direction once they start posting actual content

others all null if im not forgetting anyone

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i have

also i first switched to nsg when i read your meta, then switched back because i wanted to be somewhere where there was a wagon because i wanted to watch you play under some pressure and realized that meta in this case is basically useless, then switched back to nsg because i kind of like how youve been fighting me about my w read on you

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kinda just waiting for other people to give their thoughts on you because idk how to approach your slot wo confbias rn

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read my iso ive explained everything

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stop fucking making me townread you when i just started scumreaidng you and making me scumread you when i jsut started townreading you jfc

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pink ball is a villager and im going to take a break from this thread before i flip to wolfreading him again

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https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ilosophers

tw and i were wolves in the sheepsaysnothing hydra

iso links dont work but multi iso is in the top bar under the thread title and next to thread summary

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disclaimer that i dont know a single person who can consistently accurately meta read me other than elli

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i dont have any reliable completed games on here

last on ms was 10 months and like 40 mu games ago

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Sheep says he metadives people as town; I have only ONE finished game, were surprise surprise, I was scum!

If someone can tell me that I'm scum here analyzing that game, go on; you're wrong.

I was talking specifically about sheep scumreading me when he has openly said that he metadives as town, and it pings me that, if he did metadive me, he's not using meta on me because

it would be difficult to scumread me because of meta (because I don't have much and because how I'm playing here is very different to my scum game)

the fact that he tried to push me off of that also made it worse for me

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hysteric is not the word youre looking for?

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im reading the next post and i dont see what yorue referring to that's supposed to be cleared up

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you sniped me

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OHHHH

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meh that doesnt really resolve the problems i had with it thoguh

a bit better but yeah why would he care about a meta scumread before anyoen else has brought up meta

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"reasons i explained earlier" was reasons that meta reading you here was stupid

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dude


idt it's even physically possible to mindmeld this much

did you hack my brain or something

youve also responded poorly to votes and i want to maintain the pressure

meh this was why i originally wolfread you

quote from tw is broken but it's re your post reacting to the vote on you and your response to the votes on you felt really unjustifiedly uncomfortable and concerned about whether you were a wagon

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meh it's cool i guess we both misinterpreted each other lol

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idk what to do tw's policy lynch post is definitely pretty bad yeah


we're not policy lynching anyone in a 9 player game

also wrt infinitesoda from what he's done so far i think he looks pretty bad, but when he actually engages/interacts w people it's going to be much easier to get a stronger and more accurate read on him
so the real discomfort i have with that slot is there but i want to kinda give him that room rn

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i feel like last night i was confbiased in reading tw and let him go too easily off of being comfortable when no one else was doing anything and it was basically jsut himself in thread?

he's more of a null/idk need more content rn i feel like i was defo underestimating him and his recent posting has been more laying low-y if that makes sense

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i townread skitter and i genuinely have almost no idea why

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You're interacting in real time when the gamestate is perfect for scum to not post that much

meh i think this is a pretty good put into words form of why i liked skitter earlier

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im basically caught up

podo's catchup actually feels ok to me it's pretty natural/how i do catchups-type

i feel way way better about tw ty for helping me clear your slot up

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whatever nibbui's been doing these last two pages feels textbook twtbw

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sheep
tw/nibbui
pinkball/podo/skitter
mastina
infinitesoda?
nsg

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I mean, if I was about to explain this easily I would have already done so in the begin

It's considerably meta but there's independent reasons as well

I get scummy vibes from 551. call it gut.

maybe you and sheep are partners tbh

or maybe sheep with the duck.

havent read past here fwiw but like

you cant be like "we always lynch between me and sheep im this confident" to literally jsut responding with "meta and gut"

i think this sudden randomly timed pounce is crappy but coming from villa you and idrk what to do with you

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im not 1v1ing nibbui because he's essentially clear and this shitty play makes him even more clear

but if youre going to go through with this then it's shit play and youre bascially holding the entire town back and throwing

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i just watched two games with tw wolf

i barely even loosely followed the second one

but tw is fucking clear here too

dont throw

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meh

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northsidegal
InfiniteSoda
podoboq
skitter30
sheepsaysmeep
Pink Ball
mastina
Nibbui
the worst

sheep/nibbui/tw clears

pink ball/skitter/podo lean w

mastina null

nsg lean wolf idrk wtf to do with infinite soda at this point but im still pretty uncomfortable there

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i honestly dont know right now nibbui

im actually very confident on all of my towns to some degree rn but i think the three lhf is too easy and im fucking up somewhere

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pink ball/skitter/podo lean w

*lean v

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i legitimately have no idea where i'd be wrong in my v reads though

and this does generally feel a lot like a game where the majority of the thread presence is villa

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@tw @nibbui is there anyone in my v pile that you dislike rn

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in order of most to elast confident it's prolly skitter pinkball podo

if im wrong on someone it's 80% podo

but i want to just be lazy and pray the three lhf slots hit tbh

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tw first because this one is... easier to explain

he hates wolfing and he's bascially kinda frozen/struggles to produce good content

and feels really nervous/awkwardly pop in pop out in thread

i havent seen tw village in so long but literally if i couldnt see his name or avatar i would never guess that this was tw from how different it is

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pink ball/skitter just feel natural in how they engage/react in thread and i think a lot of the thoughts/questions/realizations theyve had are genuine

i can pull up quotes of specific posts later but this is a pretty macro overall feeling that i have from both of them

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no

i thought it was blatantly wolfy but ended up deciding that mastina's posting was just a personality thing and her posting style caused the snap reaction

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ive also been somewhat subconsciously but slowly realizing that i am factoring postcount/thread presence into my v reads rn

not necessarily going to stop that as i think that's a reliable tell with how the thread feels aorn

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infinite im back and forth on

i think their popping in without acknowledging what was happenign was kinda wolfy because there was major stuff going on as he jsut popped in and voted a 0 poster and didnt seem to care about doing anything/solving at the time in a wolfy way?


i just want to interact with the slot/seee them actually do things rn though

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and very similar to mine o.0

yeah thats making me more confident lol

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fairly confident rn and i dont see much changing for me in the near future

i think she's way more capable than what shes posted so far and tw's meta of her being very prominent in thread as villa while hating wolfing is very agreeable/accurate

she's getting concerningly more wolfy and needs to be resolved as time goes on

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gtg eat but bbiab prolly

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f
i think she's way more capable than what shes posted so far and tw's meta of her being very prominent in thread as villa while hating wolfing is very agreeable/accurate

how you actually know tw's meta on her?

i had played with her before/spectated some games

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rip nsg ):

was looking forward to playing with you

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dont make a read on her subbing out

please

im not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with that but i dont want to angleshoot like that

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twtbw means too wolfy to be wolf

not used in the way like oh theyre wolfy therefore they must be villa but theyre acting in a way where if they were wolf they would be too self conscious/care too much about how they look/are read to do that

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tw can you link me to some recent ms w games of yours

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why does all of the fucking posting happen while im away

and fucking hydras

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hydra's opening is pretty meh

gun to my head w but it's mostly just meh

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i kinda skipped the last 2 pages so far will read them later

why the fuck does everything happen while im not here

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@tw wrt the skitter meta you linked

i think her villagery type of posting walls is better than i'd expected from her and i was kinda? underestimating her w game

but i think here theres a lot mroe genuine interacging/engaging with people and solving and she's still lean v after skimming that it's just a bit weaker

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ancy's posting is actually very wolfy for her and her progression slowly trying to push me is terribly forced


also i dont have an issue with you guys as a hydra but hydras in general i hate playing with

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I reread nancys last chain of posting and like

“town sheep can aleays v read me correctly is her go to for v cred or a lazy push on me as wwolf

and the amount of emphasis and repeats she has of that is unreally forced

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i have no idea at all how to read mastina here or any idea how i ever will if needed tbh which is annoying

gun to my head she feels too much like she knows what she’s doing which i think might be indicative of wolf especially with how she referred to her apparently super super good w game earlier

but thats wo a good idea of how she actually is as either alignment

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nancy

im not annoyed that

you

are in a hydra; i just hate playing with the concept of a hydra

and where do you get that im tunneling you

im not

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i actually think you engaging me like this about my read is very villager!you tbh

but you cant assume that two posts saying i think your entrance is wolfy is a tunnel that i'll never reevaluate?

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the last game i played with nancy iirc: she was wolf on mtgs

i townread her and she kept repeating sheep always reads me correctly sheep always reads me correctly

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https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/com ... -game-over

The only person, I would not be suspicious of confidently reading me this quickly would be sheep based on we’ve played a lot of games together including hydra in team Mafia game.

If you know my meta in the slightest, you’d know that I frequently get mistakenly scumread on D1.

I had this happen in another game I was in, where I got wrongly scumread for doing something very similar.

tldr as wolf she tries to make sure she's getting v read and keeps using meta as a reason

(reading through her iso in that game, it actually feels a lot like her content here
also reading through her iso there i dont really think her being so emphatic against my w lean on her is actually ai or unfakeable for her)

im too lazy to find other examples but she also tends to emphasize even more that i should know how to v read her when shes wolf


hadnt played with her for a while so iw as kinda forgetting what her meta is like but when i skimmed her entrance i was like huh that feels really familiar


but yeah going through an example to let you guys know what im thinking actually made my read here stronger

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@nibbui why podo

im comfortable enough with tw and pink ball rn but im kinda idk rn on podo ish

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northsidegal
InfiniteSoda
podoboq
skitter30
sheepsaysmeep
Pink Ball
mastina
Nibbui
the worst

nancy/mastina wolves
infinite soda has been sitting in the idk 1/4 of the way between idk and wolf spot for a year now

sheep/nibbui/pink/tw villas

skitter almost almost always villa she just needs a bit more to be pushed into the masonry

podo is gun to my head v but could go either way

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it’s making me less worried abt the accuracy of my reads tbh

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what do you two think about nancy repeating that i should have her as v for meta

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why do you care so much about if youre being wagoned

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ive played too many games with nancy to count

i hadnt played wiht her in a long while and was sorta forgetting her meta but post-rereading the mtgs game i think im a bit more familiar with it now

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@nancy link me to games where you feel such a need to be townread? i still think among others thats youre biggest differentiating trait right now

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we're not lynching nibbui ever lol

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i think frustration is the biggest thing she can fake as wolf

i'll look through soah's game in a bit

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Sheep and especially Murders are officially forbidden from ever again claiming that either them are capable of reading me off of meta. Sheep’s postcount slam is particularly WTF???

I strongly suggest people iSO me in June Light game a Pinball mafia but I am the most salty that a few people are wasting my posting cap by making bad pushes on me, rather than trying to honestly sort me. Why? because I suck at making wall posts and need to conserve my posting to giving reads, answering questions and trying to figure out the game. Risking exeeding the cap, everytime, I get scumread for something entirely NAI or typical of my playstyle, I am forced to waste more posts. Normally, this wouldn’t be a big deal but if I exceed the cap and miss EOD,there a possibility of my being mislynched and not having any posts left to prevent it. I will hardclam if absolutely necessary. I don’t want anyone blamng me for for my own mislynch again because I didn’t claim when necessary.

Really really cringeworthy AtE. [referring to some of her own posting]

I don’t handle getting scumread well, when I’m town. Sorry. :/

mehh there is kinda this

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honestly

i still think she's wolf by meta and she does it differently as villa then when she's wolf

she feels a lot more reasonable about it in the villa game while her snapping? is remniscient of her wolf game

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nancy ive played with you when you were wolf

you can fake emotion

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right lolwagons replaced the unreadable slot which is legitly amazing

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kinda read up

UNVOTE:

need to think abt this when im out of class but for now i think i was tunneling a bit hard earlier

lolwagons discomfort take with nibbui is interesting
i disagree with it but it’s actually very believable and i think it’s almost always genuine

rest of their catchup is mostly just ehh could go either way

@lolwagons why were you v reading me

also i use the terminology clears and stuff as either alignment it just describes someone who i think is very obvious v

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VOTE: nancy

yeh back here

lolwagons has some really good points here

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fine do it soon pls

we ideally end phase soon

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ok im back to really confident on nancy w

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UNVOTE:

i want the day to end really soon but no hammering before nibbui does whatever he wanted to do first

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why is your "catchup" just reacting to things people disliking your slot said about you

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disliking alignment-read-wise

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[unv][/unv]

would switch to mastina but not duck


i fucking hate this but at this poitn it would be throwing to ignore that nancy is villager

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UNVOTE:

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nibbui can you talk to me about why you have podo such high v


especially since i still have some idea of recent meta

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tw can you link me your past w games if i didtn ask for them before and forget to read them

i think youre clear but apparently you have different site meta and can be wolfread here

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@nibbui im waiting for a votecount because i dont want to hammer quite yet

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im v reading nancy and im genuinely pissed that i am

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like

would you be able to go into actual more detail if you have time

because i have no idea what to think abt podo rn so i want to see what you see

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I think the problem with metaing duck is that he is like

very depedent on his energy levels

but I think he has been somewhat scummy for in-game reasons and I can explain

plaese do explain

im totally not just looking for reasons to sheep nibbui rn

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i thought about it and... tw could be scum here idk


he's definitely not anywhere near clear by meta anymore and i barely even read those games before being like lolme

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i lost all of my motivation to play after nancy's posting this morning

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tw's tone just...

totally totally shifted after that claim

in an i-kinda-dislike way

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first

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Nibbui been killed in the night! he was a

Vanilla Townie.

well isnt this result surprising

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VOTE: mastina

idek who the fuck the second is anymore or who to sheep after nibbui's death

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it's so hard to remember what i thought from reading eod when that was 48 hours ago


lolwagons is doing things that like

i would consider villagery but it's very different from how he acted last game
yet ignoring meta i would villa read him

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I should reevaluate about sheep now

yeh

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I should reevaluate about sheep now

yeh

Just came in to say this is a dirty use of selective quoting
*shudders*

the quoted post is literally right above mine in what world do i use that with wolf motivation

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stop making me want to tunnel you as a clear

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i want to tunnel your posting every time i see your posts


but you angled yourself clear and im still tryign to save it for postgame but youre wolfy enough for me to even doubt that

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Uh huh, you are nowhere near “clear”. Remember I actually KNOW how to correct read you tonally and no freaking way is town!sheep ever this nasty to me and as tunnelled. Town!sheep=genuine, nice, engaging waffley sheep. Scum!sheep=tunnelly, tonally off, avoidant/somewhat hostile. No freaking way does town!sheep STILL scumread us after tw flip. I was actively trying to stop what I could tell -also by correctly tone-reading him - that this was his towngame. Anyone still questions how I was so certain of this, just ISO him on D1 of Starcraft, where I was convinced he was lockscum and I was 100% right on that btw.

dude tw's words were literally "maybe outside of wolfrange because she used pretty bad methods to get out of it"

stop

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it's so hard to remember what i thought from reading eod when that was 48 hours ago


lolwagons is doing things that like

i would consider villagery but it's very different from how he acted last game
yet ignoring meta i would villa read him

@slaxx can you talk about why/how you think you might be playing differently from the recent mini normal we played in together

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or maybe the slaxx avatar makes it feel way different

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can someone give me a tldr of the mechanical talk that just happened

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who claimed what etc

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how do ignore features work on this site

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ok

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@mastina why did you give to meph

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honestly i want to think mastina is town


we know skitter was given an ability by mafia

we know meph was given an ability not necessarily by mafia



i think surface level the odds that those are two mafia are low

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yeah skitters always v lol

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has this been ari or nancy drew

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i want to w read nancy drew despite the terrible angleshooting because blocking didnt work and idk whether to be thankful or not but VOTE: meph

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I have some thoughts myself too, two things in concrete: would townPR!mastina change a scum role too? Like, if she hits scum with her ability, does that affect said scum?

My second thought is lynching sheep today instead of mastina in order to give mastina the chance to give her allegedly third power up and lynch her in D3 if things don't add up. I think we'll have more info on D3 about this whole setup thing. Also sheep is scum so let's lynch him

Sheep voting us over Mastina, is definitely telling, It makes me think he might know what her alignment is.

But tonally, he is definitely off here. He was angry at us, pretty much before we posted anything.

im angry at you but in what world would i be angry before you post

youre grasping so hard for reasons

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wasnt referring to this in the last line of that last post but that's.. way after you post

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shrug if you lynch me lynch meph after

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Wrt you offering to be lynched, you are probably just gambitting or want out of this game.

my villa flip means people will reconsider you

my lynch is inevitable anyway

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zzz if this flips villa i told you so

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if this flips villa im basically going to end up doublign down on all my reads and lose all my wim too but

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thats the wrong term i wont rly be confident in any of my reads anymore

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VOTE: meph

i received a.. n6 vigi from mafia


which is useless and really boring compared to what skitter got but unexpected bc whytf would mafia give somethign to me


n6 vig doesnt end up doing anything in a micro so idk wtf this is fore? my current theory is that it does something to me that im not aware of but idk what

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inb4 someone got someting eod2 lol

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so in a world where meph received something

mastina was vanilla mafia but knew meph got a gift

so either mafia are literally giving out gifts that are either explicitly or not explicitly given out by mafia night and day or town gave out an ability and mafia knew about it?

both of which seem really unlikely

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what do you want

im dont have anything to claim rn outside of that

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Innocent result would be a guaranteed innocent, but a Guilty read would not

dude so..

you dont necessarily have a guilty

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i have this theory that nancy's role is a legit role and mafia giving the n6 vig makes me a miller to investigator




idk what else the point is because the game doesnt actually go to n6

or why apparently a guilty isnt a giulty for im assuming some unspecified reason?

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lolthisgame if meph flips w and it doesnt end


but i dont think there should ever be a world where mastina is vanilla mafia and knows that town got a role like that

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what the fuck

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fuck

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VOTE: no lynch

dont hammer


skitter being alive as the definitive clear prolly means her reads are off

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scum trust her to misvote

and no i havent really been reading give me a page where there arent nancy posts and i might read it

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oh youre

bp

ugh

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im stupid lol

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VOTE: podo

anyhway so


meph literally explicitly said that the role stated they did not have a guilty

i think either some fractions villagers just randomly come up as inno and the rest are guilty or the theory that ive had since they claimed which is that people who receive abilities are millered to that investigator which would explain why a) i was the one to receive it and b) some stuff balance wise? (im vanilla too)

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i could sense a large difference between podo this game and the mini normal that just finished when he subbed in but it wasnt really something i pushed because his changes this game actually made him a lot more villagery


he's basically been under my radar the entire game so idrk how i'd approach trying to sell you especially bc we basically lost already but i'll re iso him after school

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Now, I will be 100% open in saying that the role literally said that an Innocent result would be a guaranteed innocent, but a Guilty read would not.

apparently the role explicitly says "a guilty would not be guilty"

it's wack but they flipped v

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right i hated this progression and how you supported the tw wagon as it was heating up but didn't join it, but also didn't join the cw (which incidentally was on scum)

so you hate that i didnt join the counterwagon to scum

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note that i hold my vote in fear of maj on ms

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Take your time, skitter. I’ll post some stuff later today probably, but sheep should probably get a chance to say something.

kinda ew'd by this tbh

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note that i hold my vote in fear of maj on ms

? i don't know what this means

im scared of voting on this site unless a votecount was just posted because i dont keep track of votes and i dont want to maj

iirc especially bothered me in this game

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Take your time, skitter. I’ll post some stuff later today probably, but sheep should probably get a chance to say something.

kinda ew'd by this tbh

why? i actually liked it?

from his pov he should know im scum if he's v? i just dont really think that makes sense as something he would say from that pov

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meh i wouldnt whine if we lost and would take blame but lol if it's for some lazy ate distancing

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those podo posts you find villagery while yelling at nibbui are like

so wolfily aggressive mh

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your reasons actually fucking make sense which is rip

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i think mastina's wack random but super strong tunnel was blatant attempt to hard distance and their motivation to do that was obvious in hindsight

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f i tried

kinda

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gg this village played scarily well

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i dont have any problems with mafia chat being released

really fun innovative setup
ty for hosting @schadd