Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

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Chekcing in

Didn’t know this game started zzzzx

35 pages wtf its like a mash or something

Wheres my boy rc and my girl nancy

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someone wanna catch me up to important stuff

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someone interact w me

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who's vedith

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i just joined the thread didnt read shite

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why did uh they already become pairs? i didnt even come into the thread yet it's been like 2 days max lol

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hello nancy WILL YOU DANCE WITH ME

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hey vedith why did you pair up with a woman already that is against the gentleman's code i didnt even get to talk to them yet wtf

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holy shit brother

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I cannot work with a man who works against the Bro Code, I am sorry

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hello nancy WILL YOU DANCE WITH ME

Uh, after that MU lovers’ game, I still have bad memories.

Why am I your first choice here?

You and RC is the only people i know nad i think RC is a guy so

:shrug:

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I cannot work with a man who works against the Bro Code, I am sorry

Listen my friend! Look, okay, it's a hard situation!
I mean, look at Fire!

Stop talking to me

You know what they say

"Bros before ****"

But you already chose a woman before you even got the opportunity to talk to me

You think so lowly of me. How can I take you as a friend?

Be prepared. On the first sight of anything remotely scummy, I will go after your NECK

Present your towniness loud and clear for me before I inevitably end up death tunneling you like 90% of my mafia games !

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I didn't know you can incorporate gifs on mafiascum

Wowza

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where I can see this Firebringer person's picture tbh

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what is Krazy doing

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do we have a consensus town

I wish RC was here to help me assimilate myself into mafiascum culture

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Get it? Fire, hot?

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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hello Taly, do you wanna dance with me? I love your beaks

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because it is

BA DUM TSSSS

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why am I alone in the thread now

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lol DR WORM is kinda funny

are they very new? i think less likely to be scum with that kinda gimmick unless they are veteran

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Worm town

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i am liking allomancer's tone

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RC null but if it's anyone but RC, prob town lean

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i am liking allomancer's tone

See I feel like his recent posts have been more trying to call out other people's posting habits and looking helpful instead of actually scum hunting

by tone i mean like his pissy tone while trying to still interact in a townie way

just hard to explain gut stuff

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i am really loving worm rn

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nancy, stop being mad. it's making it harder to read you

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yeah cause u love trolls.

do you know me

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RC null but if it's anyone but RC, prob town lean

But you know he’s telling the truth about my being mislynched and wrongly scumread on MU. What is the scum motivation in that?

are you really asking me why scums would tell the truth right now

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RC null but if it's anyone but RC, prob town lean

But you know he’s telling the truth about my being mislynched and wrongly scumread on MU. What is the scum motivation in that?

are you really asking me why scums would tell the truth right now

I just don’t see the scum motivation in RC doing that. Why does scum!RC do that in your opinion?

scum would love to tell the "truth" to look like they are helping town

scum will be "Helpful" to town so that they can get town cred

i do think you constructing a read on RC around your perspective is something what towns tend to do so this is a good look for u

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Anyway, I’m liking your thought process here DT, eventhough I’m not agreeing with it.

no way you say nice things to me

are you a wolf

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ng until the end of Pre-Dance to get pairs going is that it makes interactions and pairings seem more mechanical, and conversely, more able to be manipulated.

I'm selective of who I want to pair with, and I have just as few options to mirror that.

Question to ANYONE who'd rather wait more for pairings: if we're not going through a defined plan for First Dance or coin usage or how we lynch, then what is the benefit of waiting to create pairs?

Creating a townbloc feels like messy NK bait, so the only positive I'm seeing to using up our 6 days, is so everyone can have a fair chance to read the game and make up their mind.

i like this post a lot

would you dance with me potentially

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ankamius weird shade of krazy noted

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I need to see and engage with you more

Doubting

I'm not getting your reads on

Dr. W

and

Allo

? Both people I'm suspecting at the moment?

Also I'm still confident with

Nancy

being town.

Do you have any questions for me?

i think nancy is townish too for her read on RC

i liked allo's tone

i like W's tone

it's just gut tone read. they seem to have "i dont care about what others think" and expresses opinion in a bold way

of course, scums also try to manipulate this kinda tone, but the genuinity is different slightly, imo, when they are scum and town

i mean i can answer ur questions if u have specific ones. these are where my reads came from in general tho

i also partly dont like explaining every single small things that come to my mind because

1) chances are they are wrong
2) chances are my own opinion of them change later on
3) they clog up the thread unnecessarily we honestly don't need every single detail of thoughts that I have

now, if you accept my love reqeust and we get a lovers chat, i can, of course, explain all the little things you want

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Because I've felt from the beginning of the game that his entire approach to the game has been really off.

It doesn't mesh in my head for him to suggest all of these mechanic options and look to push the thread into detailing how exactly we are going to handle the game, and then suddenly offer you a dance when he has barely gone into any of his reads at all.

It's completely bizarre and I'm having trouble seeing how he doesn't have an outside agenda to what he's doing here, because it looks to me like he's trying to hide behind his setup spec while he secures his spot in the dance.

The bolded is the only part with actual substance and I am not sure if that's a scum sign

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anka, frozen?

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Nancy says I am scum but I am also going to cost us the game supposedly because I am town unless she thinks I am scum going to cost town the game which doesn't make sense. Could the read on me be anymore whatever mood fits her at anytime? Not sure.

Don't worry you're town. You'll still cost us the game, but you're town.

LMFAO i love it

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thebrie, where is your avatar from

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Firebringer who do you scum read then?

pinkball you 2

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I scumread the scum obviously.

who dat can you enlighten me

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also feel like I'm taking crazy pills when ppl like Brie saying Allo's recent posting is better because I feel like it's getting worse

maybe I'm conf biasing

conf biasing

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Firebringer who do you scum read then?

pinkball you 2

I don't really like U2, it's like one of the biggest bands I really dislike.

I'm scumreading Allo and I still have my doubts about Ank, but for the moment I want to see more from the Moment and TheBrie to have a better perspective of the gamestate.

oh i thought i said i dont like you and you replied with i dont like u 2 and was very sad

:/ u have reads on me? u wanna interact? i am so fucking bored nobody wants to talk to me cuz i have no name here i think :!!!!!!!!

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allomancer, moment (because I am lazy), and TheBrie.

THE SCUM TEAM OF GLORY

why allo? why brie?

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I'm gonna vote u for calling me a bad man

4 more posts in the time I was trying to post lol

5

6

Got a read on me yet?

me too!!! Mr. Cowbell!!

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oh i thought i said i dont like you and you replied with i dont like u 2 and was very sad

:/ u have reads on me? u wanna interact? i am so fucking bored nobody wants to talk to me cuz i have no name here i think :!!!!!!!!

I don't have a read on you and I'm letting you do your thing to sort you, but yeah sure we can interact. I like your avatar for starters

it is hot as shit, yes

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who are the woman that I have to seduce so I can ask to dance w

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@RC, do you like reading other games to sort people or nah? 'Cause there's a recently finished Newbie where PvtUrist was scum where he replaced out and his start has nothing similar to this game. I mean you don't have to read the whole game, he has like 12 posts there and he was pushing hard his scumpartner.

wow this is some dedicated defense of a town read on another player isn't it

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@DoubtingThomas did you read the thread or at least a part from it? I mean before you started posting. Or are you just going with the flow?

i am going with th eflow

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Dude you're SO getting laid after the dance

who

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Could you not spam the thread
FOR FIVE MINUTES?

scummy

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why is dannflor keep talking to himself

lmfao

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Dude you're SO getting laid after the dance

who

wow this is some dedicated defense of a town read on another player isn't it

it's hot

This handsome fella

he keeps talking like Forrest Gump

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Could you not spam the thread
FOR FIVE MINUTES?

scummy

Nah. It's a genuine problem. People keep saying so much trivial stuff that it makes it so hard to keep up with what's actually going on. This actually reminds me of why I don't like most parties.

i like you

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who are the woman that I have to seduce so I can ask to dance w

I might have been willing until you mentioned seduction. That scares me and makes me run away.

Honestly though, do stuff that lets me read you, and I'll see later on.

i am an open book

approach me and i will open up

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Hi RC why are you ignoring me

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who are the woman that I have to seduce so I can ask to dance w

I might have been willing until you mentioned seduction. That scares me and makes me run away.

Honestly though, do stuff that lets me read you, and I'll see later on.

i am an open book

approach me and i will open up

If you were an open book wouldn't you be open already

yea I am open to you

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lol RC why are you limp dick rn

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who are the woman that I have to seduce so I can ask to dance w

I might have been willing until you mentioned seduction. That scares me and makes me run away.

Honestly though, do stuff that lets me read you, and I'll see later on.

i am an open book

approach me and i will open up

What do you think of Nancy and Firebringer?
Also Vedith and Firebringer?

Do you have any opinions on whether people shoulder pair sooner or later, or is this your first game of his type, and you're totally lost.


*Waves to RC*

nancy - townie
firebringer - did they claim how many coins? giving out info = >rand townie
vedith - uhhhhhhh prob null

first game

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Dude you're SO getting laid after the dance

who

wow this is some dedicated defense of a town read on another player isn't it

it's hot

This handsome fella

he keeps talking like Forrest Gump

Forrest Gump is my favorite movie of all time. I have a rule of watching it once a year minimum. In 2016 I almost forgot watching it but I remembered the day after christmas; I was so happy I didn't break my rule. Then on 2017 I watched it on January so I wouldn't forget. Then I watched it again in June 'cause fuck it why not.

So if DanceFloor is talking like Forrest, then call me Jenny from now on

hot fucking damn

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20% DP B 80% IRL circumstances

so you do have feelings

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So you're Scum if you don't leave... Good to know!

ive been scum in 2 of these dance games and still left my dance partner vedith.
u are not safe from scum me leaving u lol.

so u gotta behave like a good gentlemen

i like this post

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hi vedith, I don't fully vibe with your reads.

Why is Allo town, Ank scum and Nancy town in your eyes?

(I mean, I vibe with Nancy read, but I want to know your line of thinking on that.)

That's fine. It's pre dance and not set in stone.
Allo has the problem where he thinks in a very small way. That black is black and white is white. Still trying to push against me me while he has no reason to as Scum. I gave him a town read and he could simply move onto someone else while still calling me Scum but instead he's just going I circles. It's been made clear that I can make unpredictable (or predictable at this point of my MS life?) Actions and he believes that I have 8 coins to my knowledge so keep poking wouldn't be good as Scum.
Originally before that I had him as town from his tone of posts and genuine Scum hunting at first. Was more interested in directly sorting the game than to have fun or let others drive the seat. I'm on phone so no quotes right now.
Overall I think he's just arrogant in thinking that town will play like Y and Scum play like X.

Ank I am finding to force the helpful posts out, since they really aren't. As I said earlier the posts are fillers and now refusing to discuss with me even though I basically dangled the role in front. Ank came on and said allo and Nancy was Scum and pushed Nancy because if a game. It actually wasn't anything more and seemed desperate.
The problem when only using meta to push someone it's an easy cop out (and yes I've done it in the past many times). I think Ank would use this to get out of being suspected.
The town reads given just seem weak and looking for support.
I do not believe that both Ank and Fire can be Scum if even either of them are.

Nancy was being heavily pushed for the weakest reasons from scumm players. The whole I'm leaving shit was NAI for me and I already had my view before. I just read her posts and reactions as something I suspect town will do.
I really hate the aggressive posts to Dr Worm as I'm feeling these are forced now but that can easily be forced by town.
Overall my town read on Nancy is a primary result from the interactions on players I don't like as town.

As I said, it's pre dance. When we have the ability to vote and discuss properly about who we are lynching I'm sure amendments will be made.

vedith town

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hi vedith, I don't fully vibe with your reads.

Why is Allo town, Ank scum and Nancy town in your eyes?

(I mean, I vibe with Nancy read, but I want to know your line of thinking on that.)

That's fine. It's pre dance and not set in stone.
Allo has the problem where he thinks in a very small way. That black is black and white is white. Still trying to push against me me while he has no reason to as Scum. I gave him a town read and he could simply move onto someone else while still calling me Scum but instead he's just going I circles. It's been made clear that I can make unpredictable (or predictable at this point of my MS life?) Actions and he believes that I have 8 coins to my knowledge so keep poking wouldn't be good as Scum.
Originally before that I had him as town from his tone of posts and genuine Scum hunting at first. Was more interested in directly sorting the game than to have fun or let others drive the seat. I'm on phone so no quotes right now.
Overall I think he's just arrogant in thinking that town will play like Y and Scum play like X.

Ank I am finding to force the helpful posts out, since they really aren't. As I said earlier the posts are fillers and now refusing to discuss with me even though I basically dangled the role in front. Ank came on and said allo and Nancy was Scum and pushed Nancy because if a game. It actually wasn't anything more and seemed desperate.
The problem when only using meta to push someone it's an easy cop out (and yes I've done it in the past many times). I think Ank would use this to get out of being suspected.
The town reads given just seem weak and looking for support.
I do not believe that both Ank and Fire can be Scum if even either of them are.

Nancy was being heavily pushed for the weakest reasons from scumm players. The whole I'm leaving shit was NAI for me and I already had my view before. I just read her posts and reactions as something I suspect town will do.
I really hate the aggressive posts to Dr Worm as I'm feeling these are forced now but that can easily be forced by town.
Overall my town read on Nancy is a primary result from the interactions on players I don't like as town.

As I said, it's pre dance. When we have the ability to vote and discuss properly about who we are lynching I'm sure amendments will be made.

Why oh why, did I brush you off? *bangs head . . . repeatedly*

you still have me

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i like this post

Nice bro code...

my favorite sports is soccer partly because it's sports where you score against keepers

HOT DAMN

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Only gent I would accept atm is Krazy

is it cuz they dont scum read you lolmao

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what do you think abotu omega males

omegatown male that is

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hi vedith, I don't fully vibe with your reads.

Why is Allo town, Ank scum and Nancy town in your eyes?

(I mean, I vibe with Nancy read, but I want to know your line of thinking on that.)

That's fine. It's pre dance and not set in stone.
Allo has the problem where he thinks in a very small way. That black is black and white is white. Still trying to push against me me while he has no reason to as Scum. I gave him a town read and he could simply move onto someone else while still calling me Scum but instead he's just going I circles. It's been made clear that I can make unpredictable (or predictable at this point of my MS life?) Actions and he believes that I have 8 coins to my knowledge so keep poking wouldn't be good as Scum.
Originally before that I had him as town from his tone of posts and genuine Scum hunting at first. Was more interested in directly sorting the game than to have fun or let others drive the seat. I'm on phone so no quotes right now.
Overall I think he's just arrogant in thinking that town will play like Y and Scum play like X.

Ank I am finding to force the helpful posts out, since they really aren't. As I said earlier the posts are fillers and now refusing to discuss with me even though I basically dangled the role in front. Ank came on and said allo and Nancy was Scum and pushed Nancy because if a game. It actually wasn't anything more and seemed desperate.
The problem when only using meta to push someone it's an easy cop out (and yes I've done it in the past many times). I think Ank would use this to get out of being suspected.
The town reads given just seem weak and looking for support.
I do not believe that both Ank and Fire can be Scum if even either of them are.

Nancy was being heavily pushed for the weakest reasons from scumm players. The whole I'm leaving shit was NAI for me and I already had my view before. I just read her posts and reactions as something I suspect town will do.
I really hate the aggressive posts to Dr Worm as I'm feeling these are forced now but that can easily be forced by town.
Overall my town read on Nancy is a primary result from the interactions on players I don't like as town.

As I said, it's pre dance. When we have the ability to vote and discuss properly about who we are lynching I'm sure amendments will be made.

Why oh why, did I brush you off? *bangs head . . . repeatedly*

you still have me

That didn’t work out so well last time, iirc.

people change

I am a changed man

I don't beat wives anymore

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is ur undertitle "smooth criminal" a custom one RC how do you get it customed if so

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how can I title myself

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Any reads that I haven't already shared I have no intentions of sharing until I can sit at the game for a couple of hours and hammer things out. That'll be before sunday

who are the three lock town gents

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ok nancy why did Santa Claus get arrested?

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ok nancy why did Santa Claus get arrested?

Sopething he did to one of his reindeer or maybe one of the elves?

He pointed at a girl and said "Ho, ho, ho"

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sup

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like ppl i wanna dance with? or like objectively ppl who are posting in a cute way

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true

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dr worm vedith nancy drew pinkball firebringer feels good last i checkd

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whats gonna happen tonight

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HOT DAYUM

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anka might be town

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I think I've mentioned about a half dozen times that I don't have confident reads and I probably won't until I get to analyze the thread more closely this weekend

scums are afraid to admit this and publicly announce it

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what i miss

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explain

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LOOOOOOOOOOOL RC WHAT

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well, idk actually. is it a viable strategy to pair up with someone you think is scum?

havent played this setup before so idk

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who is a single lady

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@taly what about me

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wait anka, you accepted dance with RC but u scum read him?

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shitttttt ive been busy

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when does pre dance end

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who are paired up rn

or rather who is single and should i seduce

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Your remaining options are TheBrie, Gamma Emerlad, and Something_Smart

Do you have strong reads are any of the three?

i dont even remember reading something_smart

i dont think i liked gamma's pop ins like 3 / 3 times ive read her posts but i only read 3 of her posts lol

TheBrie uhhhhh i read her posts but then i forgot what they were about

i think if i see her avatar i can remember the general vibe ive gotten from her previously

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which gentlemen are partnerless right now

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Krazy I last have you at a pretty strong scum read

i forgot why tho. what do you think of me?

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Also I don't have any clue on how to approach this set up, as I have not played it before.

Any thing I should look for when looking for a partner?

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[*]Pairs

1. Vedith - Firebringer
   
2. RadiantCowbells - Ankamius
   
3. Dr Worm - Pink Ball
   
4. Krazy - Taly
   
5. Dannflor - Nancy Drew 39

post 0 btw

i feel good about vedith

i feel not so good about ank

i feel good about worm and pink ball so that's my fav pairing so far

i feel good about taly

i feel alright about nancy

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You have to look them in the eyes and ask yourself "is she the one?"

i wish you chose me

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Also I don't have any clue on how to approach this set up, as I have not played it before.

Any thing I should look for when looking for a partner?

It's awfully late to be asking this question... were you not considering asking anyone to dance before now?

No, i asked the question before and nobody really answered me

I was just gonna pick someone i thought was townie but then they are all taken lol

I remember RC saying something about 'mechanically' he should choose nancy but he wouldnt so i then started to wonder more if there was a better way to approach picking a partner

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Krazy I last have you at a pretty strong scum read

i forgot why tho. what do you think of me?

I'm trying to figure out what's up with your slot. A bunch of people threw townreads at you and now it doesn't seem like anyone posting is blinking an eye at you being potentially lynched in first dance. Seems odd to me

clearly just means i have no team and am >rand town

who are the people that are saying i should be lynched

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saying people are okay with pairing you with SS is basically saying they're okay with lynching you with dance 1 at this point, in case the subtext here isn't clear

...ouch?

I still haven't really seen much explanation of why I'm such a consensus scumread. I'm suspecting that it actually is just because I'm a replacement.

you are being too concerned about how you are being viewed by tohers

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Is your townread of DT exclusively based on 1265 or are you focusing on tone?

A bit of both. I think townreading multiple people in this game with the setup is more indicative of town, and

DT

presented a reason for most of his reads thus far.

I also don't think scum would so effortlessly fake ignorance about the gamestate or question how to go about partnering, much less ask other people for clarification and thoughts in this case.

DT

reads as genuine to me, this isn't a strong read, but it's something.

hey man you should have partnered with me!!!

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Most people had Alisae as null/scum because she didn't seem to be having fun and you haven't really improved the slot that much

Implying I've improved it a little, which means I should be at null or maybe slightly south of it. Not the automatic dance 1 lynch. There must be more to it than that, and don't say PoE.

i read 3 of your posts and see why people want to lynch you

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Not true. I'm not scumreading either of them

Who do you want lynched in dance 1?

i dont really like this question i feel like a wolf would ask

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wheres thebrie

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so i can talk to them and soul read them correctly because i am good at this game

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who is moment, taly is this man as attractive as i am

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wheres gamma

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Dann can you expand on how you got from DT being a potential pairing for Nancy to being a potential pairing for S_S?

At that point I didn't have Nancy as lock town. I was pretty set on going with Pink Ball and those two seemed like the ones who would get along with her most out of the gents left (excluding you or me)

I would probably a push a potential Pvt/Gamma pair over DT/SS as first lynch, at least until Pvt is forced to engage with me on some level

bro what

nancy hates my guts lol i was being friendly on here to troll her

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hey Pvt i forgot if uw ere a lady or gent but it seems like you are being scum read

why is that

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Gamma

why are you scum

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RC

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who should i ask out

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who is a universal town read

also what do you mean no lynch mechanic i thought we can lynch people during dances

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who is a universal town read

also what do you mean no lynch mechanic i thought we can lynch people during dances

the Mann.

The pre-dance's without votes, which is something I rely (maybe too much) on sorting.

why would pre-dance being voteless really matter to sort people when you can sort people during the dances

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who's "the Mann."

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the Mann.

hate to be dense but who is the Mann?

nice i thought i just missed so much in the gaem but couldnt find his iso

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i am not impressed with moment (my competitor for TheBrie's dance partner spot) at all

like no joke i am not even trying to shit on my love rival but his ISO is pretty empty. a lot of comment/responses to others without any original reads that come from him

a lot of statements of facts and not trying to give a real read

i dont want my lady thebrie to be paired up with a potential scum and i should pair up with her

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I dunno. I dunno who I'd push. My head gets seriously fucked with trying to read Pvt because he's straight up ignoring me and that's extremely frustrating. But other people in this game that I trust like Pink Bell have him pretty solidly as town so I'm really second guessing myself on whether i can actually read him well.

Also, aside from Allo I have no super strong scum reads and I'm dealing with the problem of this game state causing me to get really paranoid about where the mafia might be.

I need a break I'll be back tomorrow

pedit: he's talking about me krazy

wouldn't you want Pvt paired with SS then? I don't get why you agreed with PB's list as presented then

That actually does make more sense. I would prefer a Pvt/SS lynch and then sort DT/Gamma seperately because they're both null

didnt read Pvt's iso at all, but in general

scums do not want to be too dense with their behavior in the thread. when confronted, they are likely to cooperate, unless they are lika a pretty experienced scum if you know what i mean i think when i checked his post count it wasn't too many posts

idk if there are people better at reading him and they read him town and if his 'attitude' is a main reason you scum read him, chances are, he's just a stubborn town who is just being a stick up his butt because they cant handle being 'wrongly' scum read (cough cough nancy cough cough)

[DoubtingThomas]

Krazy my Mann can you be a good wingman and ship me and thebrie

[DoubtingThomas]

Gamma

why are you scum

The fuck?

by some miracle you post whenever i am in the thread which is a rare occasion

and every time i read your new posts on different days i am always like

'holy shit what a scummy ass fucking entrance' and wolf read you for it

[DoubtingThomas]

saying people are okay with pairing you with SS is basically saying they're okay with lynching you with dance 1 at this point, in case the subtext here isn't clear

...ouch?

I still haven't really seen much explanation of why I'm such a consensus scumread. I'm suspecting that it actually is just because I'm a replacement.

you are being too concerned about how you are being viewed by tohers

I rather think I've shown the appropriate amount of concern, given that I seem to be essentially an automatic lynch as soon as the dance starts...

Who is U2?

One of the best bands ever

don't be discouraged.

maybe uh you can show your townieness enough that i will town read you and be your partner

because at this point maybe nobody wants to pair up with you for being so scummy

[DoubtingThomas]

And you bring this up now why, DT?

i brought it up before for sure you just ignored me i think

[DoubtingThomas]

i read 3 of your posts and see why people want to lynch you

Do you agree with them?

i read 3 of your posts so my opinion of you doesn't really matter

i do think scums care about how others see them more than towns do so these type of questions you ask doesnt make me feel better abotu you

[DoubtingThomas]

Also despite you having over 100 posts until now I haven't interacted with you at all. So you coming out with this feels like a massive crock of shit.

uh no it doesnt

because i express my scum reads and town reads very smoothly and transparently. sometimes i dont explain all the details, but i let everyone know how i feel at the time and this definitely isnt a feeling that i just created out of my ass and only mentioned now

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Like, I actually am calling you a flat out liar about you claiming to come on at the same time as me.

how the fuck am i a liar?

i never fucking lie as either alignment

like as scum i would definitely scum read you for things i would scum read as town to begin with so i dont understand what you mean by calling me a liar lol

[DoubtingThomas]

Krazy my Mann can you be a good wingman and ship me and thebrie

didn't you just accuse me of asking wolfy questions to PB like a page ago?

so?

i accuse everyone of asking wolfy questions or doing shit if they do that/ that doesnt mean i lock my read on them?

like you realize scums will try their hardest to do townie stuff and towns often times do scummy shit all the time because either they are bad or they simply dont care or whatever

not sure what you are trying to get at

[DoubtingThomas]

inb4 Allo and SS both flip town

My statement still stands, if it's town!Dann, easy game. scum!Dann, good luck.

Right now I'm more worried about what I can learn from the game, rather than what I can do for town here. Regardless of Dann's actual allignment, I've royally screwed myself with my tunnel in a place where I'm not feeling the ability to push it (first time for this to appear), as well as the ability to read the game without tilt or bias.

I'd avocate for a Dann flip, but it's much more for my selfish, ego related reasons than what's potentially best for the game.

Just haven't been knowing how to interact or progress with the game for the past few days.

so you are telling me your entire game resolves around Dann's alignment?

not sure

[DoubtingThomas]

Townleaning Gamma and Pvt off of recent content.

what content does gamma have?

[DoubtingThomas]

Like, I actually am calling you a flat out liar about you claiming to come on at the same time as me.

how the fuck am i a liar?

i never fucking lie as either alignment

like as scum i would definitely scum read you for things i would scum read as town to begin with so i dont understand what you mean by calling me a liar lol

I understand people can think the same thoughts as both alignments. But I cannot for a second believe you're being truthful about when you've been active.

On a side note, fuck I wanted to pair with Krazy. I was trying to figure out a read list so I could determine Krazy's alignment before forming the PT so I could shitpost there.

I mean. what don't you think am I being truthful about? I have been active but like realistically spent like 30 minutes for 3, 4 days out of how many days? i think 8? days we've been playing for? maybe i am thinking it's more than that by mistake because the week's been hectic but why are you calling me a liar for no reason? make me understnad

[DoubtingThomas]

not sure what you are trying to get at

well you just said your reads are transparent and right now I have no idea what your read is of me given you seem to have forgotten why you thought I as scum and now you're asking me for favors...

I do think, from your point of view, given your posts in the last three pages, it's probably in your best interests of either alignment to ask TheBrie to dance, but I'm not sure whether I think TheBrie should accept or decline tbh

i dont think you are really super scummy anymore. i liked a lot if not all of your posts today, and you've been helpful and villagery in tone when you were trying to help me catch up earlier. it's something that's difficult to explain but works a lot for me

i also had taly at strong town and i am assuming there was a reason for her to pair up with you early which lines up with how townie you've been today despite how strongly i scum read you before

me pointing out one or two scummy things does NOT overwrite any of these far stronger town points you collected, and it feels like you will be successful in leading town/knows more about the thread so i thought it's viable for me to ask you about/help with getting theBrie's heart

[DoubtingThomas]

by some miracle you post whenever i am in the thread which is a rare occasion

Here is the lie. You say I post when you're in the thread, which SHOULD make the inverse true (you post when I'm in the thread). Despite this I remember 0 of your posting. So that does not compute.

dude i am nto fucking lying. maybe you can iso me and see how many times i saw your post/commented about you which is a lot in terms of how many different times i entered the thread (only 3, 4 days tbh)

[DoubtingThomas]

Yelling at you for calling him scum.

unreal read

is it cuz u scum read me or because her 'emotion' was real?

[DoubtingThomas]

i kinda skimmed

poeple scum read me, why? maybe i can clarify. all ive seen really is 'i cant process where his reads are coming from' which is funny because as scum i am way more thorough and logical with my reads :/

i think i am at the point where i'd rather just out in pre dance if i dont get brie maybe

we'll see how SS and gamma posts

[DoubtingThomas]

RC i think i read somewhere you called me a wolf

wanna talk to daddy

[DoubtingThomas]

yeah i didnt get to read most people at all

w/e

[DoubtingThomas]

i want thebrie as my partner but it is likely moment becomes partners with thebrie i think

so i am thinking who out of SS and gamma is more townie?

honestly wouldnt mind uh not having a pair but like that'd be gamethrow or somethingsomething

i am thinking SS at the moment

[DoubtingThomas]

if TheBrie wants to connect with a town gentleman ask her to hit me up with some questions because

'i dont get where his reads from' is something idk how to work around

[DoubtingThomas]

I mean I got my reads because I read people and thought they were town or scum lol

explain which reads i should explain/ a lot of it is just pure tone/gut/vibe because unfortunately i havent put in too much time into this game

i know what a shame having a life

[DoubtingThomas]

I'm actually somewhat diffident about townreading TheBrie

Moment seems kinda locked to me

why moment?

also who out of the ladies are town to you

we have brie gamma and SS left? right

[DoubtingThomas]

ding ding ding

[DoubtingThomas]

SS u dont want to dance with me?

[DoubtingThomas]

something abotu her posts man

for me, it's that i didnt like your self-consciousness about how you are being viewed by others and gamma just having wolfy pop ins all the time

and then thinking it is unlikely all 3 left over ladies are wolves and brie looking to seemingly have consistent urge to try to solve people

[DoubtingThomas]

RC solving really well i think

[DoubtingThomas]

RC solving really well i think

I was solving really well in our last game and you lynched me for it so not exactly townreading this

you were and i town read you pretty clearly until well it just became you-phighter thunderdome

honestly that's just like not my fault

both of you refused to work with each other and both of you were town like i was worried about

[DoubtingThomas]

LMFAO vedith's posting style matches his avi so so well it's fucking making me crack up

[DoubtingThomas]

Taly is bleeding town

[DoubtingThomas]

taly i am at the point where i can sheep you shamelessly


who should i pair up with

and who are your scum reads

[DoubtingThomas]

then who should i hook up with RC

[DoubtingThomas]

hey brie. i think you are townier than gamma and SS

thoughts on me?

[DoubtingThomas]

i thought i was ur boy too, RC

[DoubtingThomas]

can we like start talking about parnters

[DoubtingThomas]

@everyone who doesnt have a partner

[DoubtingThomas]

is gamma a strong player?

[DoubtingThomas]

Moments partner is the only one that actually matters tbh

wtf man i matter too

[DoubtingThomas]

i rarely get mislynched dont worry

[DoubtingThomas]

but that means i need an actual town partner

who wants to partner up with me :/

[DoubtingThomas]

Gamma, are you town?

[DoubtingThomas]

Gamma, are you town?

I'm curious why, from a town POV, you haven't offered Brie yet.

Still indifferent to Brie accepting or not, but I don't get what you are doing at this point

Brie doesn't town read me and prefers moment

I don't like gamma

I didn't really like SS and she is not really engaging thread.

I just wanna talk to people but like none of them are in the thread or respond to me lol

[DoubtingThomas]

gamma, talk to me. who are your scum reads?

[DoubtingThomas]

Sup i am sick

[DoubtingThomas]

Dod everyone get paired up yet

Whos left

[DoubtingThomas]

when is pre dance end

[DoubtingThomas]

i have heard that my girl thebrie's already taken is this true

[DoubtingThomas]

sigh ive been really busy this day phase because i missed a week of school

but like noone wants to interact actively when i come on

i know i cant blame you guys for me not playing, but like let's try to talk about stuff when i am here when we can

[DoubtingThomas]

@something_smart i see you posted 3 minutes before i posted

did you dip?

[DoubtingThomas]

wheres gamma

and wheres end of pre dance

[DoubtingThomas]

something smart l eft

lol does she care about being pairedddddddddd

where the fuck is gamma

who are the gents that ar enot paired

[DoubtingThomas]

I'm still here Thomas, just doing other stuff

How long until end of pre-dance?

i am not sure

i am thinking at this point i dont mind pairing up with either of you nor gamma cuz none of you wants to talk

either that or i die at pre-dance which is kinda lolfeelsrejectedbad so w/e

[DoubtingThomas]

i am not gonna wake up in the morning 9:45 am EST

Something, wanna talk and determine to get paired up or not rn?

[DoubtingThomas]

i have a take home quiz + presentation + essay to finish up tonight and meeting with group early tomorrow morning to rehears the presentation

so i prob wont be waking up and checking werewolf in the morning heh

[DoubtingThomas]

@mod how much time do we have left and is an extension possible?

14 hour ish and no

u r a fake god

[DoubtingThomas]

where did something go...

[DoubtingThomas]

where is gamma..

[DoubtingThomas]

stop fucking fighting over nothing when your boi doesnt even have a partner and is about to die

[DoubtingThomas]

i might just ask all the girls out to dance and hopefully they accept it because i am gonna go soon to do my work and i cant be back tomorrow morning cuz i have classes all day

[DoubtingThomas]

You, Pvt, Allo, Gamma, me.

I'm annoyed Brie took Moment's invitation without waiting for him to okay it, but I feel like the fact that I waited and Brie didn't should make me clearly town.

I like this post

[DoubtingThomas]

don't ask gamma

u should ask SS

are you talking to me?

i thought you didnt care if i lived = dont town read me?

why do you want me to ask ss?

[DoubtingThomas]

i am not gonna wake up in the morning 9:45 am EST

Something, wanna talk and determine to get paired up or not rn?

Well

What is your read on me?

I skimmed your ISO really quickly cuz i am busy

i should either sub the fuck out or just like let myself die or something but i like mafia too much and i have too much pride in me to just lose and hurt my alignment

I do not think you are mafia with gamma. just because it's unlikely both mafias are left alive til th eend without partners? it hink thats unlikely scenario.

from your iso i also see that moment asked both you and brie out? and you were insisting that you wait for moment to choose between you two but brie hurriedly accepted?

i think your 'pissed off' emotion that was pretty pure. i think if you are scum you dont try to 'wait on moment to choose between you two'

or get mad at brie for accepting withotu asking

and then u shifted ur town read on gents a lot. from allo to pvt? and pvt asked u out an du still havent accepted?

not sure about gamma, but you hesitating on accepting gents' dance requests = >rand town

i think your tone when you are dealing with it is definitely more town being wary of who to choose rather than scum trying to wait out and see who to dance with when time is ticking

i called couple of ur posts to be 'scummy' if you recall. i think the way you handled it was some indifference.

i called gamma out for the same thing if you read my iso. i treated both of you pretty similarly, but gamma started raging and got mad at me over nothing. i think your treatment of me is a more townie one out of the two. i also further think gamma has more wolfy posts than you. i like your townie tone and attitude towards accepting partners and trying to handle pre-dance situation. i am confused at gamma constantly complaining bout how she wants to dance with krazy and then moment but they are taken or somehting.

i think only one of you is scum. i think you are far more townier than gamma. i think EVEN if gamma is town and you are wolf, gamma is just going to be annoying and worthless in the PT complaining about krazy. i might get more info out of PT'ing with you. i think you are independently more townie than gamma. i think you want to solve me. out of you and gamma, i prefer you 1000%

[DoubtingThomas]

also i town read RC. I think RC's town ability is considerably good. i have no meta of you nor gamma. iirc, he hard town read you and said gamma was being worthless.

i am also ok sheeping that sentiment.

even if RC is wolf, i think he treats you and gamma like that if you are town. i really liked the way RC favored you over thebrie. tonally felt like a genuine town read, or something i dont know if wolves wanna do over their wolf packmate!gamma

[DoubtingThomas]

i want quick answers

[DoubtingThomas]

stuff

well now you've piqued my curiosity

That's all I can say about it lol

I probably know but I'll leave it.

hey do you want to be useful?

what are your reads

[DoubtingThomas]

SS it feels like you're more interested in keeping yourself alive than anything else right now.

that's not unreasonable as town ?

[DoubtingThomas]

Something_Smart, Down to Dance?

is this how you do it

[DoubtingThomas]

don't ask gamma

u should ask SS

are you talking to me?

i thought you didnt care if i lived = dont town read me?

why do you want me to ask ss?

@RC i also thought you had SS at some high town read last i checked

[DoubtingThomas]

i am not gonna wake up in the morning 9:45 am EST

Something, wanna talk and determine to get paired up or not rn?

Well

What is your read on me?

I skimmed your ISO really quickly cuz i am busy

i should either sub the fuck out or just like let myself die or something but i like mafia too much and i have too much pride in me to just lose and hurt my alignment

I do not think you are mafia with gamma. just because it's unlikely both mafias are left alive til th eend without partners? it hink thats unlikely scenario.

from your iso i also see that moment asked both you and brie out? and you were insisting that you wait for moment to choose between you two but brie hurriedly accepted?

i think your 'pissed off' emotion that was pretty pure. i think if you are scum you dont try to 'wait on moment to choose between you two'

or get mad at brie for accepting withotu asking

and then u shifted ur town read on gents a lot. from allo to pvt? and pvt asked u out an du still havent accepted?

not sure about gamma, but you hesitating on accepting gents' dance requests = >rand town

i think your tone when you are dealing with it is definitely more town being wary of who to choose rather than scum trying to wait out and see who to dance with when time is ticking

i called couple of ur posts to be 'scummy' if you recall. i think the way you handled it was some indifference.

i called gamma out for the same thing if you read my iso. i treated both of you pretty similarly, but gamma started raging and got mad at me over nothing. i think your treatment of me is a more townie one out of the two. i also further think gamma has more wolfy posts than you. i like your townie tone and attitude towards accepting partners and trying to handle pre-dance situation. i am confused at gamma constantly complaining bout how she wants to dance with krazy and then moment but they are taken or somehting.

i think only one of you is scum. i think you are far more townier than gamma. i think EVEN if gamma is town and you are wolf, gamma is just going to be annoying and worthless in the PT complaining about krazy. i might get more info out of PT'ing with you. i think you are independently more townie than gamma. i think you want to solve me. out of you and gamma, i prefer you 1000%

Why would I complain about failing to pair with Krazy? That was my lack of initiative, I have no room to complain. I'm sure I'd bitch about something but not that.

you complained about someone being taken

i thought it was taly's partner, krazy?

[DoubtingThomas]

i changed my mind lol

why did you want me to ask ss

[DoubtingThomas]

gamma, if ss doesn't accept my shit and take whoever you want, will you take me to da dance

[DoubtingThomas]

i mean

at this point i just want the current 5 unpaireds to go first so idrc how it works tbh

what do you mean current 5 unpaireds to go ?

[DoubtingThomas]

i mean that i have some degree of wanting every player who isn't in a pairing dead

you dont want me dead

i am too fabulous

[DoubtingThomas]

you could have efforted at any point this game but you chose not to

whats that even mean

i am a busy boi

[DoubtingThomas]

also i hate the loading after submitting a post

also is there a way to change the theme of the page? i hate this black

[DoubtingThomas]

Gamma I didn't want to dance with you for a similar reason to why I didn't want to dance with Nancy. We can talk about it dance 2 if you we're not dead, otherwise in post.

First I've heard of this I think?
Also DT can you explain why you'd rather pair with me over letting us both go? I'm in agreement with RC the game's about eliminating scum, not saving town. So talk about your read on me?

i think you are scum but there's no harm in staying in the game longer for me because i am a +EV town.

i feel like even if you are scum, i can wreck you in lover PT and get some good spew and help solve the game. there is that lesser chance you are town, too, which may be nice for me than letting myself die

what kinda question is this?

[DoubtingThomas]

go to mafsilver mafblack is awful

how do you go to mafsilver

[DoubtingThomas]

i am gonna go now, if you guys don't have an questions for me. a lot of work left.

SS, ask questions for me if you are not convinced i am town or accept my dance. or reject it so at least i know. i might ask gamma. chances are she doesn'ta ccept cuz she is scum and wants to make a strong town such as myself dead

your choice

[DoubtingThomas]

I'm not pairing with DT unless he explains what makes him consider himself strong as town.

I am good at this game

[DoubtingThomas]

Okay, I feel good enough about this now.

Gamma you won't have to worry about that

Something_Smart, Down to Dance?

I accept.

Sounds good. I hope my read on you is correct too.

I definitely solve better once more information are given through flips so don't worry about me slanking/low efforting like I did in pre dance

[DoubtingThomas]

I'm not pairing with DT unless he explains what makes him consider himself strong as town.

I am good at this game

It's not as important now as I'm not trying to pre-screen you, but examples?

Ok so I need to prove why I think I am good at this game?

I mean my reads have steadily improved game after game. I am getting better at finding wolves

I have mislynch rate of about like 5% in all games in my entire career as either alignment

Idk what I can say

[DoubtingThomas]

RC might think I am bad but i think i am pretty god damn good for someone that started playing in July 2018

[DoubtingThomas]

i mean you played bad in both games i played iwth u but i dont think i ever said u were bad lol

no u

[DoubtingThomas]

dude u cant blame me for those two games

[DoubtingThomas]

my strongest qualities are not reading, it's definitely presenting towniness tho