Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Creature]

*waits the perfect time to make a come in*

*can't decide the best way to make the first post*

[Creature]

so do we wanna take the creature freebie now or go for a bigger scum hit

We should go for a bigger scum hit. It's boring to lynch scum!me anyway.

[Creature]

creature you can legitimately feel free to not post this game

you're not gonna change anything lol and its not playing against wincon to not spew your teammates

I don't care. You can try me.

[Creature]

Say one name, I'll try to make atleast 5 lines (or 5 posts) about them.

[Creature]

C'mon. 5 lines or more about someone is something I usually don't do.

[Creature]

I'm gonna vote Creature because he still hasn't posted his 5 line post

You didn't give a name.

[Creature]

Should I assume you said my name?

That's boring, because I can't spew if I only talk about myself.

[Creature]

How can we solve this game?

I don't know. How can we play this game?

[Creature]

They were Shoshin, for pointing the L-1

Shoshin:
1. Shoshin has only 37 posts, so that's a minus.
2. Started with a naked vote, another minus.
3. Progression on RC looks fake, another minus.
4. Next five posts are nothing interesting, another minus.
5. Three naked votes in a row, doesn't mean shit.
6. 287 looks bleh, another minus.
7. Jumped too early on the hypothesis I'm town, another minus.
8. I got tired reading her posts, another minus (but NAI this time).

[Creature]

and CoA, because of his vote on himself.

CultOfAthena:
1. Only 16 posts, a minus obv.
2. 380 is a tryhard, another minus.
3. 382 is ???
4. I like 386, that's a plus.
5. I got tired here too.

[Creature]

have you read the game Creature?

No, I didn't. Just opened the ISOs.

[Creature]

You can inform me about the game in the scumchat, please.

[Creature]

I could see S/S.

Oh shit, I already spewed my buddy.

[Creature]

RC disappearing instead of entertaining with my lolcat is NAGL

[Creature]

Reading and spamming the thread takes a huge effort, so I'd rather chitchat and pretend I'm lolcatting rn.

[Creature]

i think it would be more amusing to keep creature til last scum alive

Would be amusing for me too. Should I help you there?

[Creature]

we are lynching Creature. leaving the caught scum around to go for harder lynches is literally never worth it.

It is. I'm an useless role anyway and I can also spew pretty hard.

[Creature]

as a newer player, being in this game honestly sucks

I don’t know the meta, I don’t know the cliques, it’s not worth my time to wade through pages dominated by personal grievances I have no part or interest in

/replace me pls

last post, and this should have no implication on the game at large: this was an extremely off putting experience overall. maybe I’ll take it to MD after the game is over if I don’t just leave the site but I think it might be worth thinking about how this type of game is supposed to be handled by earnest players who are caught out of the loop. should I have not /inned at all? now I know the answer is yes, but I don’t see how I was supposed to be aware of that before the game started. anyways later y’all

lmao I don't think that was nice.

[Creature]

How much time do we have left actually?

[Creature]

Scum are more likely to lack motivation in a playerlist this strong.

You mean me?

[Creature]

Scum are more likely to lack motivation in a playerlist this strong.

You mean me?

You lack motivation as scum regardless.

I mean the strong playerlist part

[Creature]

I'd have you as scum, but I think I should first do the crazy catch up.

[Creature]

Glad this game easily got steam.

[Creature]

Can you like not end the day too early?

[Creature]

Sometimes I wonder if the scum are just waiting for their disaster to happen.

[Creature]

Okay I'm bored in classroom enough.

[Creature]

I suppose Aura is IC.

[Creature]

First

Why not both?

Town.

[Creature]

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

Town

[Creature]

hi shoshin
hi coa

dance for me

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Good. Radiant's obviously town.

VOTE: Morality

???

[Creature]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

scumclaim

VOTE: Shoshin

Good. Radiant's obviously town.

VOTE: Morality

Nevermind she's town

wtf RC?

[Creature]

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

are we policy lynching this today, or day before lylo?

VOTE: Morality

Bad

Should be ashamed

[Creature]

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

Still bad

[Creature]

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

lol this

[Creature]

Three of these guys are scum that means.
YellowSnow
Creature
Vorkuta
Boats n Hoes
roomy
Tarkus

lmao no

[Creature]

Wow I haven't posted and I'm already being scumread. A lot of Pages for me To read.

VOTE: yellowsnow

VOTE: YellowSnow

[Creature]

YellowSnow
RCEnigma
Morality
Tarukus
Boats N Hoes
Vedith
Shoshin
CultOfAthena
Aurathebirb
Vorkuta

roomy
Creature
RadiantCowbells

Nice try

Better than other lists

[Creature]

How is Aura conftown?

My bad didn't see mod cofirm.

Town derp?

[Creature]

If Marality and Boats are scum, and the third scum is roomy or Vedith that puts town in a pretty good spot.

I can see this.

[Creature]

(assuming we agree that Creature and CoA not having posted yet is a reason to think that they are more likely than rand to be wolf)

You're wrong I post a few as scum while me not posting is NAI.

[Creature]

It's probably Morality Snow Creature.

Nope

[Creature]

Morality has slipped.

This is new.

[Creature]

I'm actually kind of dreading Creature popping in, because he does Line-by-Line update hyperposts in real time as he catches up.... so that's going to be fun.

[Creature]

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
UNVOTE:

Bad

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature
He has been online.

Probtown post

[Creature]

Don't know Creature but those posts look scum sided or at least very strong mislynch bait

[Creature]

Hi Creature I'm confirmed town I think \o/

Why?

[Creature]

I take zero responsibility if I was hammered. I calculated that town wouldn't lynch me if they weren't actively playing against their wincon.

[Creature]

I'm done.

[Creature]

Yeh mobileposting is hard.

[Creature]

Oh hi DrDoodle

[Creature]

You just looked lonely so I posted.

Whenevrr I do that scum runs away so I am used to that.

[Creature]

A whole page of creature-posting. What is there not to like?

The lack of attention to it.

[Creature]

Okay DrDo you're hardtown

[Creature]

you think Creature is town?

Yes.

[Creature]

Actually I think shoshin RCE is s/s.

Could see.

[Creature]

Those political reads, though

Why political? I can give you reasons for each of them if you ask.

Can you talk about Creature?

Too hot (hot damn)
Called a police and a fireman
Too hot (hot damn)
Make a dragon wanna retire man
Too hot (hot damn)
Say my name you know who I am
Too hot (hot damn)
And my band 'bout that money, break it down

[Creature]

How do we know creature is scum?

False confidence.

[Creature]

that pool just looks like you put 5 names together

This.

[Creature]

In the mean time if you can all also rate each other on where you think Scum would most likely be in those names (including me) that will help.

Alrighty, sweet dreams
UNVOTE:

Creature
DDL
Vedith
RCE
CoA
Me

Bad.

[Creature]

Didn't mean to quote 842

[Creature]

This catchup was not good, if that hasn't been clear from my mobileposting since.

You never saw me catch up before then.

[Creature]

How do we know creature is scum?

False confidence.

How is this confidence? Asking is the opposite of confidence.

I wasn't talking about you.

[Creature]

He's scum because meta.

Then I posted and am town by meta.

[Creature]

You know what will make it easier? Lynching one of the strongest townies that the site has because you can't read him.

Hi.

[Creature]

So what has creature done that is scummy other than not being active?

Nothing, I suppose scum can't drop their agenda now.

[Creature]

CultOfAthena has been prodded.

Real scum lurking.

[Creature]

you've barely given any reads or substantial comments.

This is a lie.

[Creature]

Spoiler: Enjoy

They were Shoshin, for pointing the L-1

Shoshin:
1. Shoshin has only 37 posts, so that's a minus.
2. Started with a naked vote, another minus.
3. Progression on RC looks fake, another minus.
4. Next five posts are nothing interesting, another minus.
5. Three naked votes in a row, doesn't mean shit.
6. 287 looks bleh, another minus.
7. Jumped too early on the hypothesis I'm town, another minus.
8. I got tired reading her posts, another minus (but NAI this time).

and CoA, because of his vote on himself.

CultOfAthena:
1. Only 16 posts, a minus obv.
2. 380 is a tryhard, another minus.
3. 382 is ???
4. I like 386, that's a plus.
5. I got tired here too.

First

Why not both?

Town.

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

Town

hi shoshin
hi coa

dance for me

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Good. Radiant's obviously town.

VOTE: Morality

???

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

are we policy lynching this today, or day before lylo?

VOTE: Morality

Bad

Should be ashamed

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

Still bad

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

lol this

Three of these guys are scum that means.
YellowSnow
Creature
Vorkuta
Boats n Hoes
roomy
Tarkus

lmao no

Wow I haven't posted and I'm already being scumread. A lot of Pages for me To read.

VOTE: yellowsnow

VOTE: YellowSnow

YellowSnow
RCEnigma
Morality
Tarukus
Boats N Hoes
Vedith
Shoshin
CultOfAthena
Aurathebirb
Vorkuta

roomy
Creature
RadiantCowbells

Nice try

Better than other lists

How is Aura conftown?

My bad didn't see mod cofirm.

Town derp?

If Marality and Boats are scum, and the third scum is roomy or Vedith that puts town in a pretty good spot.

I can see this.

It's probably Morality Snow Creature.

Nope

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
UNVOTE:

Bad

VOTE: Creature
He has been online.

Probtown post

Hi Creature I'm confirmed town I think \o/

Why?

A whole page of creature-posting. What is there not to like?

The lack of attention to it.

Okay DrDo you're hardtown

Actually I think shoshin RCE is s/s.

Could see.

How do we know creature is scum?

False confidence.

that pool just looks like you put 5 names together

This.

In the mean time if you can all also rate each other on where you think Scum would most likely be in those names (including me) that will help.

Alrighty, sweet dreams
UNVOTE:

Creature
DDL
Vedith
RCE
CoA
Me

Bad.

So what has creature done that is scummy other than not being active?

Nothing, I suppose scum can't drop their agenda now.

CultOfAthena has been prodded.

Real scum lurking.

[Creature]

I think that a lot of you fail to understand what his scum meta actually is

I'm afraid you're among that group.

[Creature]

I've been busy mostly because of an offsite 12/12 game.

[Creature]

RC says nothing but "this is his scum meta", the activity tell argument has been disproven and there are still players wanting to take him seriously?

[Creature]

I believe my push won't just provide scum a mislynch, but will also provide town fighting each other tomorrow hence why it's better to cast the chaos being on me today.

[Creature]

From top of my head, Morality, YellowSnow and Boots are all town.

[Creature]

Spoiler: This is all hot garbage

Hey what's up hello this is my entrance

VOTE: roomy

I played scum with yellow in a recent game AMA

the vorkuta comment is in no way backed up by anything concrete, I just wasn’t entirely sold on his vedith vote. seemed a little left field

Do you disagree with his characterization of vedith? I thought it was pretty accurate

Alright. What's obvious about your read on Yellow?

Scroll up lol. Boon is Morality

Pretty sure BnH was talking about missed or ignored questions asked in 127 and 129, not 193. But you get the general idea I think unless there's something I'm missing too

Idk seems reasonable that Morality missed those questions but recognized the tunneling going on

YellowSnow seems obviously scummy.

Maybe a little too obvious

if anything.

I caution against this type of reasoning wrt Yellow

I like it!

Yellow leans scum for me. I'm not really buying his hop onto Morality and BnH as coming from town when he was townreading them and scumreading RC, Roomy, & Creature. Then he was like gg ez after the reads flip?

@Yellow What changed for you?

ah you noticed me!

Do you still believe that morality v bnh is SvS?

^^@Yellow

Ok. Why are you voting morality?

well presumably he scumreads morality

wait is that how this works?

I think yellow was way too eager to hop on board and push the scum theater idea, and now he's backtracking

I think yellow was way too eager to hop on board and push the scum theater idea, and now he's backtracking

I'm not backtracking. I still think it could very well be SvS and I said as much.

You said "I think it's possible. Not really sure of their meta though." That's a pretty far backtrack from your attitude in your postings around 293, 339, etc

VOTE: YellowSnow

Sorry that you rolled red again, doesn't feel like you're being genuine in this one

what am i missing senpai? inb4 "he's town"

Vedith why are you so different from our last game?

@_@

swaggy answer, I dig it

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
UNVOTE:

Roomy lynch would give us more to go on tomorrow

Distancing is a decent bet, they both scumread each other pretty early. And I think roomy is one of the scummier players in his own right.

VOTE: Vedith

DrDo hasn't shifted my read on that slot. I'm liking CoA for town

Who's your strongest scumread?

Who do you think is scum DRD?

Bruh lol
776

Who's your strongest scumread?

And now I realize this was a dumb question
Scratch that DrDo, talk to me about RCE?

kk well

don't like the vedith wagon even though i really think we should policy lynch him sooner rather than later.

VOTE: Creature

boooooo
Come on over yellow a seat just opened up

Agree! Maybe even three? But probably not

Want to give me a scum-likeliness ranking of those slots?

Leaning that way but he's a tough one for me to get a read on so far

Alrighty, sweet dreams
UNVOTE:

Creature
DDL
Vedith
RCE
CoA
Me

Is that to Vedith? Cause I don't agree that there can only be one scum there

gottem

Choose you one, couldn't decide which were the worst.

[Creature]

I don't remember that much about roomy, but I think he's town based off Tarkus spew and/or gamestate.

[Creature]

Oh, DrDolittle is town too

[Creature]

Shoshin is really underwhelming and it's unlikely the real reason is lack of time.

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature btw.

So RC not voting creature despite hyping him up as today's Lynch pinged me in retrospect. Running creature up spews his alignment as obvtown or kbvscum. Which kind of splits the Poe he keeps bringing up.

On top of that I could see RC setting up for late game already, his Poe is part of it, reluctance to Lynch what he called the power slots is another. It gives ScumRC wiggle room late so he can't be poe'd based on the strong players being nightkilled and RC remaining. Which would be one of the stronger points against him.

But yeah back to creature, I think if Creature is town RC is getting town to push creature for him. Or decide not to push him at all since he knows creatures alignment becomes clear close to a Lynch.

lmao, which of these is the worst?

[Creature]

Vorkuta is leantown, probably not lynching for a while.

[Creature]

CoA's posts aren't as terrible as tarkus, Shoshin and/or RCEnigma and I feel tempted to townlean her, but the lack of activity is NAGL.

[Creature]

I dunno about RC and Vedith, should probably look at them if the game doesn't end with tarkus, Shoshin and RCEnigma lynches.

[Creature]

Towncore:
YellowSnow
Creature
Aurathebirb
Morality
Boats n Hoes
DrDolittle

Townlean:
CultofAthena
Vorkuta

Snowflakes:
RadiantCowbells
Vedith

Garbage:
RCEnigma
Shoshin
Tarkus

[Creature]

CoA's posts aren't as terrible as tarkus, Shoshin and/or RCEnigma and I feel tempted to townlean her, but the lack of activity is NAGL.

RC said she lurks out as scum, do you find that true? The little content she does have seems townie to me in tone and in pushes

Yes and I agree with the latter, hence why I wrote the post like that.

[Creature]

VOTE: tarkus

[Creature]

Spoiler: Enjoy

They were Shoshin, for pointing the L-1

Shoshin:
1. Shoshin has only 37 posts, so that's a minus.
2. Started with a naked vote, another minus.
3. Progression on RC looks fake, another minus.
4. Next five posts are nothing interesting, another minus.
5. Three naked votes in a row, doesn't mean shit.
6. 287 looks bleh, another minus.
7. Jumped too early on the hypothesis I'm town, another minus.
8. I got tired reading her posts, another minus (but NAI this time).

and CoA, because of his vote on himself.

CultOfAthena:
1. Only 16 posts, a minus obv.
2. 380 is a tryhard, another minus.
3. 382 is ???
4. I like 386, that's a plus.
5. I got tired here too.

First

Why not both?

Town.

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

Town

hi shoshin
hi coa

dance for me

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Good. Radiant's obviously town.

VOTE: Morality

???

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

are we policy lynching this today, or day before lylo?

VOTE: Morality

Bad

Should be ashamed

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

Still bad

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

lol this

Three of these guys are scum that means.
YellowSnow
Creature
Vorkuta
Boats n Hoes
roomy
Tarkus

lmao no

Wow I haven't posted and I'm already being scumread. A lot of Pages for me To read.

VOTE: yellowsnow

VOTE: YellowSnow

YellowSnow
RCEnigma
Morality
Tarukus
Boats N Hoes
Vedith
Shoshin
CultOfAthena
Aurathebirb
Vorkuta

roomy
Creature
RadiantCowbells

Nice try

Better than other lists

How is Aura conftown?

My bad didn't see mod cofirm.

Town derp?

If Marality and Boats are scum, and the third scum is roomy or Vedith that puts town in a pretty good spot.

I can see this.

It's probably Morality Snow Creature.

Nope

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
UNVOTE:

Bad

VOTE: Creature
He has been online.

Probtown post

Hi Creature I'm confirmed town I think \o/

Why?

A whole page of creature-posting. What is there not to like?

The lack of attention to it.

Okay DrDo you're hardtown

Actually I think shoshin RCE is s/s.

Could see.

How do we know creature is scum?

False confidence.

that pool just looks like you put 5 names together

This.

In the mean time if you can all also rate each other on where you think Scum would most likely be in those names (including me) that will help.

Alrighty, sweet dreams
UNVOTE:

Creature
DDL
Vedith
RCE
CoA
Me

Bad.

So what has creature done that is scummy other than not being active?

Nothing, I suppose scum can't drop their agenda now.

CultOfAthena has been prodded.

Real scum lurking.

And this is useless rambling as I think you're town now but half of these arent reads -_-

Even if they aren't, the other half easily beats most other players.

[Creature]

I’m being pocketed by Creature.

Yes, you are. Look at the bright side, you'll have fun.

[Creature]

If Creature’s scum then he’s probably been throwing a scummate under the bus. Probably Shoshin

Wanna help me bus Shoshin?

[Creature]

Creature busses frequently as scum iirc, but I think this is town Creature.

I went full antibussing last scumgame (off-site).

Heh, I do what best suits me.

[Creature]

What is COA and Soshin's scum meta?

Lurk lurk lurk

[Creature]

His first post has already been pointed out as scummy, don't think I need to elaborate much there.

If he's used to be mislynched, I can easily see him making that post.

[Creature]

In particular I don't see this response to being pushed so quickly out of the gate coming from town.

In particular I don't see exaggerated responses to being pushed to be any alignment indicative as players can overreact to pressure regardless of alignment.

[Creature]

Slight pause on this, doesn't seem like a scum post but still overall a net negative read.

I see it as town post, but whatever.

[Creature]

Don't like the inclusion of the middle sentence.

Yeh, it's ??? but dunno if it indicates anything.

[Creature]

It seems to me you're just looking for reasons to scumread me. Why wouldn't I want to learn from my mistakes? The alternative is not learning from my mistakes.

I don't understood what you meant. It lacks cohesion with the rest of the post. Why did you feel the need to include that there?

[Creature]

Dont ask stupid questions.

Why not?

[Creature]

My ability to aid town wincon from a position of being heavily scumread is negligible.

Well, that explains your shitty scumread on me.

[Creature]

Town creature doesn't try to appear town.

MU users disagree.

[Creature]

Town creature doesn't appeal to me to townread him

I don't think I did. I just pretended to be scum near you.

[Creature]

You're right, scum don't hop on easy wagons all the time like the Creature one, I just figure new scum is more likely to.

My experience from last scumgame (offsite) suggests scum first develops a progression before moving to someone (such "I would agree with X and Y wagons" then *votes X*).

[Creature]

I am a Psych graduate student

I'm an engineer. Trust me!

[Creature]

CoA is the one I don't get.

[Creature]

If Shoshin is town she will force scum to nightkill her before endgame

We never Lynch her D1 ever

Wanna go Tarkus then?

[Creature]

Creature if you're town just stop

Stop what?

[Creature]

Spoiler:

This is where I'm at on this game. Aura, Vorkuta, Enigma, Radiant, and COA are my strongest townreads. I won't consider lynching here unless everyone else is dead. And I think there's reasons to scumread every other player in the game.

I'm trusting Radiant that Boats/Snow is town, at least for today. I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment. I had Snow as strong town earlier but after reading through one of his scum games I don't feel comfortable with that read anymore. I think the way he quickly changed course on his reads was opportunistic in precisely the same ways he was opportunistic as scum, plus I think his forgetfulness about Aura isn't as towny as I thought on first impression.

I have Tarkus as null. He feels less scummy than his play in one of his scum games, but I need to check his town games because he's still lurking here in ways that resemble scum.

Vedith is playing like trollish scum. I have nothing to say on this because despite scumreading his slot, I've been told his is just how he plays by Radiant. So, again, I'm willing to leave this slow alone for today.

I scumread Morality from the start of the game. I thought he was trying too hard in the early parts of the game, cluttering the game with tons of pointless posts, and he hasn't actually made any attempt to scumhunt. His recent posts trying to cast me as scum aren't great either, especially since he seems to be doing the typical scum thing of ignoring large aspects of what I'm doing so that he can make me look scummy. Radiant agrees with this read, so Morality is up for lynching as far as I'm concerned.

roomy gave me strong vibes. I thought the fact that he replaced out after just a small amount of bickering from two players felt fake, especially since it didn't even involve him. DDL's play has been shit. His meta on me is crap. His attempt to scumread both me and Enigma is based entirely on dumb details that have nothing to do with alignment (e.g. his notion that haven't been following up on things when I'm actually following up on everthing, just not necessarily shitting the thread up with all my thoughts). I think he's scumreading me and Enigma based on associative tells rather than actual scumhunting (e.g. me and Enigma are townreading each other, so it seems like we're a team, even though there's actaully really good reasons for each of us to be townreadig each other).

Creature lurked out the first parts of the game, then entered the game posting lots of crap, superficial and shitty scumread on me that he should know better than to hold, especially after Starcraft Mafia, so who knows? I don't feel like he's been making a fair attempt at trying to read me, at least in the ways he usually will do. I also think Creature usually makes more of an attempt to fairly read lower post count players like myself, so the fact that he isn't doing that here is very concerning. He's probably scum.

If I had to guess a scumteam, I'd guess Creature, DDL, Morality (coincidence that they're all scumreading me?), and if those are wrong, it's Vedith with maybe Boats/Snow/Tarkus.

I'm gonna say this is terribad, agenda-driven and hopefully RC is right about Shoshin being fearkilled pretty early here if she's town.

[Creature]

Did Shoshin just list 7 of 13 players as scum?

Yeah, I think she was talking about the 10-members scumteam.

[Creature]

That seems pretty fancy to me.

FTFY

[Creature]

My ability to aid town wincon from a position of being heavily scumread is negligible.

Well, that explains your shitty scumread on me.

My scumread was perfectly valid given your awful opener.

No, it wasn't.

[Creature]

Ok so why would you do that?

I needed something entertaining and making fun of scumreaders is great.

[Creature]

You're essentially claiming you played your scumgame

actually I jokingly claimed scum

then you wolfread me fo falling you scum for it, no?

Dunno, you kept it for some reason.

[Creature]

Creature, why are you scumreading me?

You're pretty underwhelming and seemed very different from Starcraft 2.

[Creature]

Tarkus is my second strongest scumread over DDL right now.

Entertain me on DDL?

[Creature]

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
UNVOTE:

Roomy lynch would give us more to go on tomorrow

Distancing is a decent bet, they both scumread each other pretty early. And I think roomy is one of the scummier players in his own right.

Tarkus seems pretty opportunistic on roomy here.

[Creature]

What is the agenda behind my reads?

It feels like you're trying not to give up on your reads because you need to follow the agenda.

[Creature]

Ok so why would you do that?

I needed something entertaining and making fun of scumreaders is great.

What if I didn't bother to read and reevaluate and just lynched you for it and then I got lynched myself and we went down to 9p

How funny would that have been?

I wouldn't expect town to lynch too early anyway even if they thought someone scumclaimed.

[Creature]

We are now cleanly out of Creature scum range and anybody who's currently voting him needs to move their vote.

I dunno where I am rn :/

[Creature]

This is really a deep, but entertaining, string of posts.

[Creature]

Oh the ninjas

[Creature]

Creature, why are you scumreading me?

You're pretty underwhelming and seemed very different from Starcraft 2.

I didn't play Starcraft 2. That was entirely the worst.

lmao I defended your slot there because I thought you were posting.

[Creature]

replace out in fear.

lmao if they did that.

[Creature]

What is the agenda behind my reads?

It feels like you're trying not to give up on your reads because you need to follow the agenda.

Huh? What reads am I trying to hold onto?

Me for starters.

[Creature]

What is the agenda behind my reads?

It feels like you're trying not to give up on your reads because you need to follow the agenda.

Huh? What reads am I trying to hold onto?

And WHAT is the agenda? You didn't answer my question.

From my last experience as scum, scum have a path of mislynches for an easier way to endgame. Cutting some paths may make the game harder for them.

[Creature]

I made my top scumread who I was voting replace out in fear.

Yea, that's why Roomy left. I'm sure he was terrified of a naked vote from an absent slot. Too scared to keep playing, in fact.

I hope they realised replacing out because of pressure is probably not legal.

[Creature]

Where's your usual town self?

I may have done string of posts as scum before, but never with a dick measuring contest mixed in.

[Creature]

Why didn't you give my posts a fair read?

I thought I did when RC gave me your name when I first joined.

[Creature]

Well this game is finally enjoyable!

You're welcome.

[Creature]

Are you still scumreading me, Creature? You gonna hold onto that?

Probably not anymore, but I dunno about your reads.

[Creature]

I actually think Vedith is a strong pick for scum right now

I don't know how to really read him, so your call.

[Creature]

Anyone still thinks YellowSnow is scum?

[Creature]

Woah, 13 whole new pages

[Creature]

Great, I'll have something to do this afternoon.

[Creature]

Vorkuta, Creature....ATTACK!

What?

[Creature]

Who are RC's partners, Morality?

I'd rather talk about them after a scumflip.

[Creature]

I feel so aliveee.

This is why I play mafia tbh

Yeah, it's pretty enjoyable to engage into an argument and break down their points.

[Creature]

Way better than just being a spectator.

[Creature]

I'm glad to see everyones on the same page.

Yup

[Creature]

I just got force replaced elsewhere.

Don't do drugs, kids.

[Creature]

Page 58 I'm pretty bored
and I feel unaccomplished
Let's just lynch Tarkus
so the damage is diminished

[Creature]

"can I copy your homework?"
"yeah just change it a bit so it doesn't look obvious you copied"

DDL/Creature/Morality

If I had to guess a scumteam, I'd guess Creature, DDL, Morality

[Creature]

Read on me creature

It's probably pointless to push you now. You become more obvious after D1.

[Creature]

Why Tarkus over Vedith, may I know?

Felt more confident on Tarkus, but whatever.

[Creature]

This is not a read.

The read you're looking for is mixed then. Sorry if you wanted something like town or scum.

[Creature]

Creature avoided a question.

I probably missed it then.

[Creature]

I never want to hear how good you three are at town ever again when I flip. Your town block sucks and your reads suck.

Who is RC wrongly townreading?

[Creature]

I still like BnH

VOTE: DDL

lmao

[Creature]

WE ARE LYNCHING 1/3 OF COA BNH RCENIGMA OR WE'RE LYNCHING ME AND SHEEPING ME ON THEM WHEN I'M DEAD.

Why BnH?

[Creature]

So I've had an epiphany and if Creature flips town RC is always scum. Don't @ me.

VOTE: Creature btw.

But I'm done thinking for today, the more I think the scummier I think RC is.

But yeah I only want to flip creature today.

So RC not voting creature despite hyping him up as today's Lynch pinged me in retrospect. Running creature up spews his alignment as obvtown or kbvscum. Which kind of splits the Poe he keeps bringing up.

On top of that I could see RC setting up for late game already, his Poe is part of it, reluctance to Lynch what he called the power slots is another. It gives ScumRC wiggle room late so he can't be poe'd based on the strong players being nightkilled and RC remaining. Which would be one of the stronger points against him.

But yeah back to creature, I think if Creature is town RC is getting town to push creature for him. Or decide not to push him at all since he knows creatures alignment becomes clear close to a Lynch.

oh hey look

trying to set me up to take the fall when Creature flips town, pushing more scum wincon

Great I'm not alone on scum!RCE here.

[Creature]

Creature, take a leap of faith with me and murder COA

Was planning to vote there anyway.

VOTE: CoA

[Creature]

I'm going to post today but guys I think rc is might be town

I never want to hear how good you three are at town ever again when I flip. Your town block sucks and your reads suck.

Do you think good players are never wrong about anything?

Quickly, no, good players can be wrong. But when 3 proclaimed best good players on the site are wrong about the same thing I get doubtful

I think the coordination about future and making future plans and all that are a bit farfetched but I respect the meta CoA read

Honestly I'm surprised at the strong pushback over CoA slot. I was told it's very town. I have it at at most null. But Shoshin, RCE and vedith are all pushing back there.

Why are you fighting a lynch on DDL?

What's you're thoughts on Boats town read on me?

Hmmm.
Top of head
RCE
CoA
Creature
Tarkus (that's you)
DDL
Me

VOTE: Tarkus

We should go with this instead of RCE.

Mmm...

Is boats purely scum by association or which posts ping as well??

What's the votecount

Woah, I'm so proud of you

[Creature]

and at the same time skeptical too

[Creature]

This is scumcoa

VOTE: cultofathena

I agree. How should we pass the day?

[Creature]

RCE town spewed himself with some pretty awful AtE, I don't think I ever lynch that slot.

[Creature]

Creature (if he doesn't obv town again)

[Creature]

lmao, just realised boats meant RCE

[Creature]

Okay RC you have this thread under your thumb anyway

[Creature]

Okay RC you have this thread under your thumb anyway

Serious question do you not think that I'm town

Dunno, I can't really read you.

[Creature]

Creature is town
Vorkuta is town
Aura is town
DDL should be town
YellowSnow town

I can see all of these though.

[Creature]

The reason you don't want to lynch CoA today is because you feel like Morality will slip away if you die tonight?

[Creature]

Still think CoA has a decent chance of being scum and that was just some nasty townhammer.

[Creature]

Let's see how this will go though.

[Creature]

So we're in twilight then

This is great, now we can finally produce content.

[Creature]

I still need to find out who tf is BnH

[Creature]

There's YellowSnow and YellingSnow now.

[Creature]

Okay, whatever, I'll follow your CoA/Morality/BnH team, but if the game doesn't end on then most likely I'll follow my own reaads.

[Creature]

Dunno, my hope is still on this flipping scum.

[Creature]

Sorry if I'm not giving my best into this game rn

[Creature]

You're probably doing it anyway

[Creature]

Wait BnH = nsg?

[Creature]

Okay, most likely she will flip scum then.

[Creature]

Trying to be optimistic here.

[Creature]

Meh, Morality probably goes down anyway.

[Creature]

Cuz I actually don't think shoshin is scums rn

If you call Shoshin town confidently, I'm sheeping you there till the rest of the game if you end up dying.

[Creature]

The funeral atmosphere

[Creature]

VOTE: Morality

[Creature]

What do we do now?

[Creature]

tmw mod has a section specifically to modkilled players

[Creature]

I'm like only lynching Morality today but we can see who else is scum.

[Creature]

I'm preeeetty bred.

[Creature]

*bored

[Creature]

What if benevolent dictator RadiantCowbells is demanding that we murder Vorkuta instead

would ignore.

[Creature]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[Creature]

Woah what an annoying game

[Creature]

It's about to get even more annoying.

[Creature]

No

[Creature]

first do you guys agree at least that there's another goon in the hood

It's gonna be a shitty setup spec

Scumhunt normally

[Creature]

Modkill incoming

[Creature]

Yeah man, four mafia isn't that fun, specially for town.

[Creature]

the mod modkilled obvtown when i had both of you caught how arrogant and stupid do you have to be to claim a win against me when the game was 4v9 and you only won due to a modkill

and a nolynch

[Creature]

I mean, to be fair, it was a fake claim.

Investigating a miller claim as pure cop is a mistake. Nothing else. No matter if it is a genuine claim or a Mafia fakeclaim... you are essentially wasting a cop check on someone who claimed to produce a guilty result.

I think if the cop ends forgetting someone's a miller enough to unawarely investigate them, most likely they're not miller.

[Creature]

well, just learned that 4-mafia 13p setups are as bad as 3-mafia + SK 13p setups

[Creature]

even 10-members all town neighborhoods in most cases are worthless

[Creature]

can i have opinions from the players on whether this setup belonged in the normal queue

Why not? It just seemed unbalanced.

[Creature]

4 mafia vs 9 town

a batshit ton of complexity

poor balance

etc.

It still contained atleast one VT and normal roles. Just the balance was bad, but like a lot of normals are like that.

[Creature]

Whatever, just forget this game ever existed and if someone ever brings it to attack your credibility, just go through the bullet points on why the setup (including the modkill) sucked.

[Creature]

Usually players' logic is: were you town? Did you lose? If yes to both -> don't trust you (even if you pinned down three scum in 7p LyLo and only lost to dumb quickvoting town)

[Creature]

Can I also say that the modkill was bullshit, by the way?

The neighborhood was bullshit to begin with